I don't understand why people claim she's "deep" or "politically/socially conscious" or whatever...

I don't understand why people claim she's "deep" or "politically/socially conscious" or whatever. I don't think she's done a single song about social issues or anything deeply profound. Almost every song on her album was just about her relationships with boys.

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who's claiming that?

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"wish you were gay"
I mean c'mon user yeah the album is mediocre but don't hate it for the wrong reasons like a knob

>"wish you were gay"
She was accused of queer-baiting for this. Not impressed.

This is supposed to be "socially conscious".
youtube.com/watch?v=GbjwfQG_N_Y

Her lyrics are only considered deep to 15-year olds:

bass sounds like farts

Those organizations are paid to say that

Reminder that you're still shilling her even if you're against her in your post.

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The Federalist was paid to praise her?

Still better than Lorde

53 get?

AKA gen-z you fuckwad

How?

tbf an anti-xanax song is pretty unheard of in mainstream media, i'm not against this one at all

It’s called a marketing campaign. Jews don’t mean any word they say.

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It’s not s bad song per se, but her delivery is kind of corny:

t. my friend

but ICP is based?

Bury a friend is song of the year

It’s falling off the charts fast.

Also didn’t she write the song about X?

Why would a 17-year old white girl sing about politics?

Zoomers get off easy.

If she was truly “deep” her cheerleaders would be able to provide concrete examples as to why.

There's nothing to understand. She's the fad and she will be gone in a few years just like the rest of them.

j cole has a whole album dedicated to anti drug use and the destruction it causes.

roll

lil xan did it over a year ago

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fuck it

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lets-a-go

God I wanna fuck her so bad!

And Billie’s schizophrenic SoundCloud boytoy has a few songs denouncing drug use on Taboo.

roll, icp is based

rolling in thy deep

Lord shall protect me

roll

she is just another justin biber fuck everything and everyone

Who claims she’s politically conscious though?

holy shit does that sound boring, what happened to the teeth and anger and bite of the younger generation?

gen-Z is the most conformist and politically moderate generation since the 50s.

>”she’s the zoomer Joan Baez guize look at how concerned she is with weeping over the status quo!!!!!”

you spelled millennial wrong. At least gen z is more anti sjw/joke policing behind closed doors

What’s political about singing “I’m better than you cuz I don’t pop xans”?

true, but those zoomers generally don't listen to Eilish

When xan use has objectively devastated Billie’s generation.

roll

Who?

Has it though? Or are the only people doing them the weak-minded who have fallen into peer pressure?

It's about wishing a boy she liked was gay so she wouldn't feel so bad.

>The Great Milenko
This is unironically good though.

go

Sooooo profound! Truly the voice of the oppressed!

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ok

I'm just correcting him. It's certainly not about a social issue nor is it not about boys.

rolling for biebs

Except it is about boys.

>I don't understand why people claim she's "deep" or "politically/socially conscious" or whatever.
>ctrl-f "pseud"
>0 results
come on guys

I know. Read what I said.

As a zoomer myself (1999), I can say nobody in my scene (clubbing/raves) gives a fuck about the newest industry plant. In fact, hardly anyone I know has even heard of her. I don't think she actually represents zoomers as much as she wants you to believe

Gen z is 97’ to now, you’re making it sound like you’re generalizinf

This.

A perfect name for her style should be “pseud-core”.

She’s literally being shilled everywhere.

only in corporate outlets, which aren't as popular among the youth anymore

t. shill

>hunger for reality
she literally lives in a fucking fantasy world where she gets to larp around as a musical artist

rollo

WHEN WILL THEY BE UNLEASHED? IM TIRED OF WAITING.

winrar

Except a pseud(ointellectual) is one who at least makes an attempt to look knowledgeable and wise/deep. Billie has never done this from what I know of her music or what I’ve seen of her in interviews.

Both of these songs are shit.

here I go!

And gets tons of unearned praise for doing so.

This is true, but...

Most people my age have grown accustomed to being constantly bombarded by advertising and media. Billie Eilish is an archetype (industry popstar) that people in my circle have grown accustomed to filtering out. Or at least that's my guess.

have you talked to any of your peers at all? i don;t know a single person under the age of 20 that doesnt at least kind of like her. i worked in a fast food place full of highschoolers, when the album dropped i almost quit to get away from it.

On what basis?

I go to university in Montreal and hang with people I became close with through shows, clubbing and sharing music. When I asked them what they thought of Billie Eilish they said "who" except for one of buddies who said that his sister was a fan. For reference, we mostly listen to SoundCloud rap and experimental electronic music

I listen to Billie with my AirPods in Flac
Zoomer here

>Montreal
Noice. Yeah I get the impression the vibe here is influenced by the Miami shit quite a bit. I see an awfully lot of black dudes with coloured locs, for instance.

youtube.com/watch?v=8TCrqTL5STg
Only time she sings like she has a soul.

Then again, pretty sure Curry has many more reasons to be angry at the system than she does.

Xanny is a good song, WYWG is her attempt at going pop.

>Oedipus Rex and Funeral Parade of Roses allusion

Based.

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uhhhhhhggggghhhhh. Well it was bad, big shock. High point: Kiss Me Through the Phone. Low Point: Hey You There

For some reason, I read your comment as "Anti-Oedipus". Fucking grad school.

As soon as she's 18. Be patient for nine months.

She's Deleuzian too

>Billie is a Deleuzian
Nah.

rollan

>expecting a pseud like Billie to have genuine knowledge of philosophy

>she gets to larp around as a musical artist
Genuine laugh. Thank you, user.

I mean, her brother is the real artist. Billie is just a pretty face with an okay voice that's marketable.

>but billie IS soundcloud rap you i n c e l

She's very cultured. The name "Eilish" comes from the book Finnegans Wake

Which songs of Billie's in particular count as pseud-core?

rollerino

Rollan.

>didn't she write
Hilarious

Also: anything from her first EP, any song of hers which glamourizes depression (so, When the Party's Over, Bury a Friend, Listen Before I Go, etc.).

She is a brain-dead mongoloid. She doesn't write her own music, can't even be bothered to remember the lyrics to her own songs and is HORRID "singer". Fuck this ugly slit. I can't wait for her to go the way of all the other used up industry-shilled cunts. Also, STOP making threads about this waste of space, thanks.

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>can't even be bothered to remember the lyrics to her own songs
Holy shit, when did this happen?

Rollin

youtube.com/watch?v=pbPZI73wnSU
Look at this shit!

CRINGE

And this girl is already being called a "legend". Sheesh.

I mean, whether or not she wrote the song herself or her brother wrote it for her, she's strongly hinted the lyrics are about her friendship with X.

Who gives a shit what she wrote a song about? Who gives a shit about X? Fuck them all!

>I don't do xan, I do other drugs instead

Roll

Roll uno mas

Roll again

Part of me wonders if Billie's choice of subject matter on her album is her (and her brother's, and her label's) attempt to copy what's currently popping in hip hop. Xanny is an anti-drug song; take these other examples of songs denouncing drug use by Cole, Denzel, etc. Or the song All The Good Girls Go to Hell, obviously about some kind of Manichaiean good-vs-evil type thing which is also highly present in contemporary hip hop ("imma demon/imma angel"-type shit). And all th songs alluding to depression and wanting to die, OBVIOUS sadboi imitations (think Yung Lean, BONES, Lil Peep) albeit with less sincerity.

Dunno, this is just my hypothesis.

rote

As a 19 year old living on the edge of a decently populated western city that isn't socially inept I can confirm that nobody I know takes xan. Ket, followed by coke are the most popular excluding weed.

>not a fan of this brain-fried thot
anyone else

No it hasn't.

This is a complete caricature. Opiates like percs and fent are much more prevalent among western youth than xannies are. The state I grew up in is currently going through an opioid - read, NOT antidepressant - epidemic and the bulk of people dying from ODs are 18-30.

Oh fuck, you wouldn't believe how many zoomers in the city where I live now are doing heroin.

But the xans are laced with fent.

just left a band because they started liking this bitch

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me too but my gf likes her and it makes me sad

rolling for quads of misery

I will never get her appeal.

Cool, new Mudvayne when?

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Rolling

The drugs “xan” is a catchall term for all hard drugs. At least I thought so with the way she’s describing it

It’s very obvious that the focus group attached to her management and her label control everything about and anything relating to her image and music

>can’t have simple disagreements with people
You don’t deserve to be in a band if you’re this autistic

It amazes me how people assume it's just her and her brother making pop songs independently in their bedroom. Doesn't Billie have a 360 deal with Interscope? I know she and her bro don't own the masters.

Plus, her image change was definitely not organic.

>Suburban America is the whole world
Xan is a fad and be gone in a year, it's only considered a problem because of soundcloud rappers constantly talking about it.

Which is probably why Billie chose to reference Xanax in her song as opposed to, say, an opiate.

The songs lyrics are pretty specifically about Xanax though.

>those results
Eeek.

Yeah but you could replace xan with percs or oxys or any other painkiller or opioid and it still applies. I don’t think the point of the song was to fixate on a specific drug but the usage of drugs

Not understanding how this is politically conscious, not even we-live-in-a-society. Just "I'M SAD EVERYONE AROUND ME IS DOING DRUGS AND I'M NOT."

roll

If Billie did decide to sing about politics, which political issues should she sing about?

My pick: smashing the gender binary (given her rejection of corporate femininity).

You sound like a fucking loser. Everyone knows who Billie Eilish is if they’re not a fucking dork

Anarcho-communist insurrection.

I wish.

>pop music bad

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Sigh

Open borders.

wypipo

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>xanarchy

>I don't understand why people claim she's "deep" or "politically/socially conscious" or whatever
NOBODY claims this. At least not on Yea Forums. So shove your shitty flooding thread up your ass

A lot of music critics have claimed it though. See: Yea Forums just happens to be far more redpilled on ind*stry pl*nts and easily sees through her façade.

I feel sorry for her. She's a literal label slave.

What did she mean by this?

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>ket
you're probably not american where it is a real problem then lololol

White guilt.

Was David Bisbal a thing outside of Spain and Latin America?

Lose weighg

No, (You).

She's cute.

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Rolling

What else is pseud-core?

damn rolling for quads

desu I see way more people complain about people saying this than people actually saying this.

Look harder.

Her music sucks shit, the sooner this fad is over the better

You know how she had an album bomb on Billboard? Most of those songs have either fallen off or are lingering on the bottom half of the Top 100. I think she only has three songs left in the Top 40.

How long before she resorts to IG antics to maintain clout?

roll

Why does this song make be feel uncomfortable?

Look at this photo, Yea Forums.

How can you DENY this epitomizes our society?

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Just stop talking about her, shill

Soulja Boy? Brokencyde? Waking the Cadaber? a bunch of average pop? Fucking Lulu and Showa? This is one of the most fedora images I've seen on this site

lmfao

A sheltered, homeschooled suburban white girl whose ambitious actor-musician parents ensured she'd never have a conventional experience of the world isn't going to know anything about social issues, moron.

Going for quads

Rolling for Kenny G.

Asshole / Snail Dilemma is brilliant you pleb

>voice of the generation
>fucks black guys

accurate

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why though when she never claims to be deep? Other people say it about her, that's not really her fault

MAKE HER _____ ___ ___ _____.

Bruh I get she likes black guys but can you please stop accusing Denzel of fucking her? Statutory rape is serious shit and accusing someone who was molested of sexually exploiting a young girl is just asinine.

if she spreads her legs for him, then that's not rape. I don't give a shit if that's the law. it's clearly consensual.

Yeah but in most states it’s still illegal for a 25-year old to fuck a 17-year old. Why make accusations especially without evidence?

most guys and girls do it with no consequences. girls always lose their virginity to older guys. calm the fuck down, nobody is going to jail. there not going to promote her with rape accusations, not that soon in her career

So you're a white guy
Like my album much guy
Just can't get enough guy
Blacked is your homepage guy

I'm that bad type
Make my parents sad type
Make your girlfriend think twice
Introduce DeShawn type
I fuck black guys, DUH!

LOL

Sooooo deep sooo profound. Billie must read tons of critical theory and existentialist novels.

She looks good in yellow

Hopefully it gets another criminal off the streets

>if you hate yourself, this song is for you
>her music is also for adults
Jesus fucking Christ I hate normalfags so goddamn much.

wow lets see

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Roll

already listened through :( reroll

>beastiality

Tf. I hate Billie Eyelash now

Rollerino

Rolle

She looks like she's morphing into St. Vincent.

How did they do the black fluid trick? I'm guessing there's some pipe somewhere but it has to be very well hidden because I can't see it. It's not CGI, right?

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rall

Wish me luck niggers

Synths on you should see me in a crown made my cringe very hard

Her music videos are good though

Henry Rollins

I can have simple disagreements with people, I have them all the time seeing as how I'm in 3 different bands that play 3 different genres of music, but when they begin to take inspiration from objectively terrible musicians like her, I feel like I'm wasting my time.

okay what do we got here

rollinrollinrollinrollin

Looks like an ugly male model

rollerino

Whats the difference between billie and a plant?

You dont have to water billie.

the 13 year old jr high girls that OP hangs out with

rollerbladerino

That's all just astroturfing, though. lol.

Literally every social media & star in general has this, bub.

Hell, it's always back like this, dating back to the 50s I'm sure, but it's not more apparent than ever today

Anyway no, nobody besides uninformed 13 year olds who don't know any better would take her seriously

roll

reroll

Nothing says reality like a 17 year old, or a pop star. Or a 17 year old pop star. Anyway people should forget about reality and just listen to vaporwave or something.

youtube.com/watch?v=znDmBS2z0uM

90 get

...

LOL rolling for this.

Bill Eyelash is shit. Young girls like her image and therefore think her music is deep. She actually reminds me of ASAP Rocky in that way.


Anyway, what shit album am I about to listen to?

Roll

woop woop

I agree.

Annie is genuinely talented though. Billie is all gimmick.

>implying she possesses the intellect to do this

The level of pretentiousness is off the radar.

>implying doing so requires intellect
>implying she writes her own songs

lmao. People are saying this song is bringing "social awareness" about Xanny. The entire song is about a femcel that is upset that she is not doing drugs when other people are.

>Putting Lulu in shitcore

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why do people pretend like the label doesn't control everything she does?

Yep. A level of irony there.

she must have a nasty body, based on what she wears

shut the fuck up she's my gf

She actually has a very nice body

Thanks for delivering the context.

“Looking at the credits it’s only her and her brother.”

It’s a shitty album.

Why does anybody take that opinion seriously? There probably isn't a 16 year old on Earth that could actually write deep and profound music.

Why do you think teenagers listen to music made by people in their 20s and 30s? Actual teenagers are children who have nothing to say.

B-b-but Billie is a CHILD PRODIGY who is WISE BEYOND HER YEARS!!!!

>Hell, it's always back like this, dating back to the 50s I'm sure, but it's not more apparent than ever today
Pat Boone was the first industry plant. He was Elvis in an inoffensive package that people's parents could like.

And how do you interpret it like that?

What’s this supposed to prove?

Rolling for shits and giggles.

Ugh can't we end her career by claiming she is a symbol of white rationalism or something?

Nah I doubt anyone would fall for it.

yaaaaaaas kwan!

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Nice Youtube comment section copypaste.

Didn’t some publication say her music was feminist?

Wow can't believe our woke queen said this! #cancelled

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But if we try hard enough? Forexaple she cries black tears of joy they are black cuz of black suffering and white people like that????

Rolling

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Oh no cancel her I hear she had a one night stand with Richard Spencer as she is such a huge fan of his!

She has black boyfriends.

You’re better off getting her cancelled for cultural appropriation similar to Iggy Azalea.

rell

Yeah but she wants them has her nigger sex ßlavs! Smh she's a true hard core racist!

morsay truand 2 la galère, dédicace à tous ceux qui l'ont acheté

roll

So cold we say that her wearing sneakers is undermining the black community s they can't afford to buy formal shoes but as white woman who can afford them she is just using their shoe culture to seem woke and lit?

This.

Ok let's cancel her kek

ça va mon pote, trop bien ce site

ROOOOLLL

rollin by limp bizkit (hope i get limp bizkit)

N'est-ce pas ?
Étonnant de voir morsay dans une pareille liste

I mean isn't that the perfect representation of Gen Z though?

Shut up retard. Could you at least put thought into your post before spouting buzzwords?
Because modern music has evolved to a point, where if it's not wacky and absolute zany, nor follows the deadbeat pop music formula done a million times; it won't stick.

Based.
Stop caring. None of these artist give a rat's ass about you. Why divulge into shitty mainstream media?

Write tumblr-esque posts about how Billie is stealing black culture and being praised for it.

Also mention how Highland Park is a gentrification cesspool and how Billie is essentially a colonizer in more ways than one.

Lol no one thinks that
It's just fun and age appropriate music. I would have written the same kind of thing (albeit not as eloquently because I don't know the first thing about songwriting) when I was her age

And above all it's just nice to hear something slightly different on the radio. Idk about you guys but I've been stuck listening to post malone and ariana grande on loop and it was getting boring

I like Lulu

She's a 17 year old girl. She loves Ariana Grande. I mean look at her, does that look like someone who's really 'deep'. She's just this generations attempt at Avril Lavigne.

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I mean, if Billie were 18 she'd in no way be getting the free pass she seems to be getting now. Iggy's racism was arguably the product of her own ignorance, i.e. an Australian girl not understanding American race politics. Billie's culture vulturing has no excuse, especially since she's hanging around "woke" rappers like Denzel who should be doing their job to teach her a thing or two.

Flunking kek

?

Autocorrect it's a bitch

roll me up bad boy

Tf is wrong with her

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Fucking kekels.

>feminist
Based on what? The way she dresses?

rollin

Here we see two paid shills, attempting to blend into the 4channel forum

Based. I respect that attitude

what are you on about faggot? I don't give two shits about Eilish, but I like knowing how this sort of stuff gets made.

roooooolllllllllllllllll

Rolling.

Did they forget she defended X?

Jesus Christ this thread has been going for a fucking day straight! Are you serious? What the fuck is wrong with this god damn board??

It's a worthwhile topic to discuss. She's one of the biggest pop stars in the world right now (not saying I like her but you can't really deny this).

rool

rolln

>defined gen z
>if you hate yourself this is the song for you
>billie eilish is the voice of gen z

dunno what your on about mate sounds correct to me

>She's one of the biggest pop stars in the world right now
All the UMG marketing in the world can't make it true. Her singles are falling off the charts and interest in her is already dwindling.

It says a lot that a thread this shitty is still up after a day. This board is completely dead.

Well that and kids don't usually look to their peers as role models, they look to cool adults.

>interest in her is already dwindling

Her world tour sold out very quickly though and she's still getting a lot of press. I think you're speaking too soon.

>Her world tour sold out very quickly though
Thanks corporate sponsors buying out tickets.
>and she's still getting a lot of press
UMG marketing machine hasn't given up yet.

>believing the media
Billie will be forgotten in a few years, calm down

Most of the venues she's playing barely have capacity for 10k people.

The charts don't lie. Just off the top of my head, last week she had something like 14 songs in the Top 100 (her entire album minus the intro and outro, plus Ocean Eyes and the song she did with Khalid) with five of those songs in the Top 40, Bad Guy being her only Top 10 hit. Now she's only got three songs in the Top 40 and nine tracks on the charts overall. Literally most of her songs are barley clinging to the charts as it is. That's a pretty serious loss for an artist who's so hyped up beyond belief. How long did Ariana's singles stay on the charts? What about Post Malone's? Billie doesn't even come close.

>How long did Ariana's singles stay on the charts? What about Post Malone's? Billie doesn't even come close.
Don't forget Taylor Swift. How many months was Shake It Off played on the radio?

rolling for 303

rolling

roll

Man it's literally paid shills. Were you here for the week-ish of Jumex bombardment? It'll die off abruptly at some point

roll

A ton.

Billie has "flavour of the month" written all over her. The only way I could see her maintaining a career in five years is if Denzel keeps giving her more features (gotta be a man and provide for wifey somehow), or if she learns to break out of her ASMR vocals and learn to sing properly (speaking as a female who used to sing in high school, I can confirm her vocal style is specifically done by young girls unsure of their ability to stay on-key or sound good, so they essentially bury their vocals in the melody. It's great when you're 14 but by 18 you really have to learn how to sing out).

Or, if she mentally grows up and starts singing about serious subject matter. I can't listen to Bad Guy for more than 40 seconds without cringing. I like Xanny though.

I was here when all that awful Jumex shit was being spammed. It was a nightmare.

This exists.

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Jesus Christ!

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>Denzel keeps giving her more features (gotta be a man and provide for wifey somehow)

Are they actually dating or are they just collaborating on music?

She's said in multiple interviews she has no interest in having a boyfriend, so.

Post has been crazy successful. Shits still selling a year later and he's #2 & #3 on Hot 100 this last week with Wow & Sunflower. Ariana had her entire 13 song album debut top 40 and had the #1, #2, #3 songs at the time. She's had a #1 on the hot 100 for 15 weeks since November.

So yeah, Billie isn't either of them.

And Post is like Billie in that his music isn't "conventional" pop but highly trap-influenced. Billie is more of a novelty act, and her hype will start to die once she turns 18 and the "child prodigy/bedroom pop" thing no longer applies.

Did Billie outsell Ariana or was it all a false alarm?

this should have been her big hit instead of bad guy imho.

No. She sold very well, did over 300K, but Ariana did 360. In Billie's second week she did 118 vs. Ariana's 155 and is projected to do 85 this week vs. 117 in Ariana's 3rd week.

She did sell more actual cd's first week than Ariana because she did a tour bundle promotion.

>In Billie's second week she did 118 vs. Ariana's 155 and is projected to do 85 this week vs. 117 in Ariana's 3rd week.
Geez those numbers are dismal for someone promoted as "the next big thing". Pretty much confirms how her success thus far is about to be short-lived.

Oh boy here i go

orange man bad

She should do a cover of Le Temps Des Cerises. Would fit her voice very well. I don't think she'd understand the meaning though.
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>peaked at no.35
>now down to 86
SAD!