/metal/

the 18 minute track it's really something

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I love spurdo edits.

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based

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WHEN YOU'VE BEEN DOWN
IN YOUR GRAVE
ALLLLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVVVE

AND LODS OF FÜD TO EEEEEEAT

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this is now a spurdo meal thread

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Yes

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Suck my week.

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AAAAAAAAA

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Are you interested in History /metal/? If so, what time period interests you the most?

the parts where they kill each other

>someone else finally listened to Internal Decay
Yes

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90s dm and mid-late 80s thrash/crossover scene. Also the late 90s early 2000s experimental Czech scene, where there were a tonne of really good bands that for the most part disappeared for some reason

Effigy of the Forgotten
Pierced from Within
None so Vile

Judas Priest sucks

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all at once?

>full of soyy

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yeah none of those albums alone does it anymore, gotta superimpose them

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what is some metal for drinking alone on a saturday night?

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youtube.com/watch?v=tly1VRUVvH4

Not bad t b h
viewsync.net/watch?v=q3JeaBoBU-c&t=0&v=bLorNSZjcBI&t=0&v=YepbZ90amLY&t=0&mode=solo

sorry, i don't like stadium rock

youtu.be/1x-5ZkTMyMc

Medieval

I just finding it interesting looking at the evolution of heavy rock into stuff like black sabbath, into heavy metal, then speed, thrash, then death and black; also accounting for the increasing diversity of those genres over time and outside influences (melodic, crossover, etc). As well as the evolution of doom and it’s subgenres alongside all that

youtu.be/reOLeLX0Q9U

which classics do you like less the more you listen to them?

for me, it's altars of madness

What are the greatest Crossover Thrash bands?

Could never get into AoM in the first place honestly. As much as I hate to admit it, for me it’s probably the first two entries of darkthrone’s unholy trinity

Transilvanian Hunger

t. nu-male

Why do i never see Vomitory mentioned here? Pic related is my favorite death metal album.

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I FOUND MY WAAAAAY TO DIIIIIIIIEEEEEE

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Never found doom too interesting in terms of substance. Mind enlightening me?

Holy fuck this is good. This is the type of death-thrash I love.

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numale band

Anyone got any good OSDM bands to recommend? Really love the Infester/early Incantation sound.

>death-thrash

Must be bait.

I don't know what it is exactly. I just know I dig it.

weak bait user

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you mean the history of it or the music itself? If you don't like any of the older or newer classics (Sabbath, Candlemass, Cathedral, Electric Wizard, Reverend Bizarre) then the genre probably isn't for you. It is very 'simple' sounding I suppose, especially compared to a lot of thrash/death/black, but I enjoy it. There's definitely a lot less good to find in the genre though imo.

any good post-USSR slav metal?

Thoughts on Pagan Altar?

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Quite possibly the ugliest album cover I have ever seen in my life.

you must be new

>never seen a dream theater album
w e w

Type O Negative has always been my go to for this feel
youtu.be/MaZmTuM85nQ

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Metal belongs to women, queers and POC. If you're a white male, FUCK OFF

>band releases their demo through a label

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please put more effort into your bait next time

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Dude that shit is fucking beautiful. I don't know what evil cloud druid over cathedral means, but it's ugly as fuck. Don't ever talk shit about Dream Theater's graphic design, at least effort goes into it.

We got a turbofag

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Graphic design literally is one of my passions. What's yours, fucko?

you should find a different passion

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Analyzing Film, Literature, Philosophy, Music, Theatre and History. I can discuss these things for hours.

Hunt the Buffalo

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youtube.com/watch?v=YGV6bCTMM5w

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_1992:_Rise_of_the_Chaos_Wizards#Story
>In 1992, a millennium after the events of Tales from the Kingdom of Fife, the evil wizard Zargothrax remains in cryogenic sleep, imprisoned on Triton and guarded by the Space Knights of Crail (“Infernus Ad Astra”). A cult of “unholy chaos wizards” plot his release and attack Triton, defeating the Knights and freeing Zargothrax, who promises to terrorize the galaxy (“Rise of the Chaos Wizards”). The intergalactic warrior Angus McFife XIII, descendant of the original Angus McFife, sets out to thwart him once again, wielding the powerful Hammer of Glory, passed down through generations from the original Angus McFife, renamed through its 1000 years to the legendary Astral Hammer (“Legend of the Astral Hammer”).

youtube.com/watch?v=YI9a7ZLdTY0

very nice

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>altars of madness
it's severely overrated

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youtube.com/watch?v=h-x59ON5Q88
ÜÜÜGH AGËNT ÖRANGË

HOLY FUCK ITS GOOD AHHHHHHHH

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this album has the best interlude tracks I've heard, normally they're a fucking waste of time but on this they're better than half the full length tracks.

any good albums out this year yet?

Is it just me or is Scott Ian the most chill guy out of the american big 4 besides Tom Araya?

I love this album, that is all

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>out of American big 4
That’s not big achievement since everybody else, except maybe David Eleffson from Megadeth, are complete assholes

TON really was great at capturing that kinda of feel in the most crushing ways possible

>So you sit home
>Drinking alone
>Empty bottle in your hand
>Don't even try
>To sort out the lies
>It's worse to try to understand
youtube.com/watch?v=Idfv4wyWfSs

>tfw today turns out to be the 9th anniversary of Peter's death

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honestly the only ones i can't stand are Mustaine, Kerry King and Lars. i'd include Hetfield but he's mellowed out in recent years.

I WANNA SET THE UNIVERSE ON FIRE

I must say I really enjoy the new Exumer album.

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my friend's band
youtube.com/watch?v=1adRAzG3lEg

>Peter steele died a catholic
could he have more of a chad?

How do I get into Power Metal ?

be a homosexual who plays civ 6

Dark moor
Hammerfall
Dream evil
Blind Guardian
Manowar
Sabaton
if you can find anything from these bands you like you'll either have to dig deeper or accept that you're not into it

listen to old school german classics: Helloween, Blind Guardian, Scanner, Running Wild, Gamma Ray

are celtic frost inimitable? i don't think anybody else sounds close to them

>Basedheaven
>Basedpeth
>Onions
>Agalsoy
>Basedtones
>Basedjira
>Basedrosis
>Deathspell Basedmega
>Alsoyt
>Between the Baseded and Me
>Mesoygah
>System of a Onions

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incriminated
winter
divine eve
that macaco band
slaughter
cianide
uhhhhhhhhhh
obituary

good post

the fuck are you talking about? it's a very good cover

this sucks

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you must be fun at parties

honestly this is their best, their old stuff lean to cock rock too much imo

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based
yeah their last albums are real fun

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BOMBENHAGEL
BOMBENHAGEL
BOMBENHAGEL

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What’s some great escapist/evocative metal that isn’t power metal and isn’t about frostbitten winterscapes?

youtu.be/3sq9oQivijg
the "not power metal" part is debatable

based budgie poster
youtube.com/watch?v=JQw92wKRdbY

>When the band realises their fuck up years later and fixes it

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Fun fact: the album art was just a quick digital mockup/sketch the artist did to use as a blueprint. Steve saw it, loved it, and demanded it would be used. The artist had his name taken off the album.

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Through Helloween like the rest of us:

Early Helloween:
youtube.com/watch?v=rOHEe2txc04

Peak Helloween:
youtube.com/watch?v=dtPs1QrMI1I

Later Helloween:
youtube.com/watch?v=ssI-6JwwueU

JUST-era Helloween
youtube.com/watch?v=AFKUojtInTk

I only recently discovered Keeper 1 and 2 aren’t concept albums.

Still shit.

salty-beach-42139.herokuapp.com/
post last months festival

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Based taste, including the non-metal artists

i dont have spotify

It's Crossover.
Entry level Crossover.

Yeah dude, it's new Peste Noire. What did you expect.

nekrofilth-ohio.bandcamp.com/

Hails.

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>crossover
my kind of user, have some raging crossover from belgium
youtube.com/watch?v=VP-lawEXdNw

youtube.com/watch?v=HKJcvb0Z0NU
Saw these guys live 2 days ago
So athm

youtube.com/watch?v=O6wz7GKzZAg

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Hell yeah dude, this is the kind of Crossover I like.
Plenty of early 86' Hardcore influence with great Thrash riffing. This rules.

Power Trip was and will always be a band for Hardcore kids that want a gateway to Metal.

me too, mid 80's to late 80's is the golden crossover era.
youtube.com/watch?v=pMj8hQw6amI
there was also a early crossover band called Powertrip back in the day, pic related.

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what are some other bands like Agalloch I can listen to?

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Agalloch don't have a lot of clones or anything too similar. Pillorian is a band made with the vocalist from Agalloch and they're similar, but with more metal.
You can always go for Kauan's more metal-y albums, like Sorni Nai, if you want soft metal with atmospheric elements.

Other than thinking they look pretty cool I've never heard a Behemoth album, where do I start?

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The kid standing on the dog always gets me

Recommendations for someone who likes this album unironically?

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>Other than thinking they look pretty cool
youtube.com/watch?v=d0hkisojGic take this, though.

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>94
Had no idea they were that old, thank you guys

I TAKE MY FATHER'S GUN AND WALK DOWN TO THE STREET
I'LL HAVE MY VENGEANCE NOW WITH EVERYONE I MEET
YEAAAAAAAH

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>lyrical themes: tolkien mythology

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What is wrong with my chart? These are my favourite albums and there is nothing wrong with liking popular or well known releases

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Gotta wonder what the fuck did Fenriz see in Satyricon to move on to Satyr's record label when he was clearly nothing but a late-coming poser. Darkthrone as a band has taken the worst or at least most strange career decisions ever

fuck off bongman

>What is wrong with my chart?
No Dragonforce.

It doesn't matter how obscure an album is it doesn't make you any more of a metal fan

Not this shit again

Hi. This is Matthew. Matthew likes cigarettes and brutal slamming death metal, and he likes to smoke cigarettes. Matthew is a bit special. Could we all give a big "HELLO MATTHEW" to our friend here? Thanks everyone.

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I'm not gonna pretend to be someone I'm not. There's a reason why these albums are praised

I like most of those albums but you're just trying to stir shit up.

I'm not. Everyone always shits on my chart

throw away that cancer stick

>There's a reason why these albums are praised
Usually because they're decent and accessible. While accessible isn't a bad thing, it usually means it doesn't have a lot of unique shit going on.
I will never understand people who like Blackwater Park the most in Opeth's discog, it's their most watered down and Ghost Reveries is better in almost every aspect. It's just a bit less mainstream friendly as it has more harsh moments than Blackwater Park's mostly acoustic bits.
It just makes it seem like you've done no digging into metal at all. You've heard basically the main staples of the genre then just stopped right there.
Another example, is the Isis album good? Yes, despite what /metal/ will say. Is it as good as other albums in the genre? Fuck no, even albums you have in the same category completely blow it out of the water. Expand your horizons and shit mang.

Hello Matthew! Please don't smoke my slamfriend! It's bad for your health
Also lose some weight

Dubs of truth

this was good
youtube.com/watch?v=E8Dcf_xEBQ8

Matthew is pretty interested in a BIRD right now but he appreciates your kind words

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I've listened to plenty of albums that aren't accessible to most people, hell Altars of Madness isn't accessible to most people in real life. Also I have done digging into metal I listen to new albums everyday and none of them come close to albums like Paranoid or Ride the Lightning

I think Matthew is happy because he saw a bird, plus he's smoking his pack of cigarettes and I'm playing death metal for him

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fixed that chart for you

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who is this?

>deletes the best metal album of all-time

It's obviously Matthew, can't you read user?

This is Matthew! He's likes cigarettes and death metal. He's a special guy

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Who the fuck is Matthew?

based

what are you talking about? I didn't delete Altars of Madness, it's right there

Thoughts on Gorgoroth?

He's special

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I want to listen to some fucking metal with cheesy lyrics about fantasy shit that's not gay power metal or just bad

are you guys all some sort of gay europeans in this thread? where's the american metal like My Chemical Romance or A7X?

i only recognize 3 group names throughout this whole chart: death grips, slipknot, and pantera

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Matthew is a recovering opiate addict.. the drugs burnt his brain. I help him. This is him right out of the hospital's psychiatric unit

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You're all full of fucking shit! Most people in real life flinch at the sound of Slayer let alone fucking black metal. You think listening to obscure albums makes you superior, well it fucking doesn't! I have a better taste than all of you miserable cunts!

atmopilled

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caverncore is for you

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Matthew he is a simple guy. Could I get some "death metal" please? He's been asking for deaf metal

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Story?

name

don't know if my taste changed but i found this one not as good as the last
good sound and love the guitar tone though

>none of them come close to albums like Paranoid or Ride the Lightning
I really fucking hate the tourist meme but this is kinda the core of the "tourist" mindset, finding the "best" album in a genre/band's discography and not allowing yourself to enjoy or explore anything else since it isn't highly praised or whatever. Sure, starting with popular/more accessible albums is a great way to get into metal, but eventually you owe it to yourself to dig into the genres you enjoy and find some different stuff.
Listening to obscure albums doesn't make you superior but only listening to popular albums kind of shows that you don't have much interest in exploring the massive catalog of music out there and just want whatever a lot of people like to be handed to you.

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Pschizophrenia+too many drugs+death metal and cigarettes=MATTHEW

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underrated post

Good post

What are some albums that sound like their album cover? No generic wintershit pls.

none - the damp chill of life

this one seems like they've found the sound of the last album and fine tuned it really digging it atm

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Mate, most people in real life haven't even heard of Pantera for Christ sake. You have no clue about what I listen to. I have heard plenty of albums that are not "entry level" and none of them are particular amazing just good.

as the fag posting this album yesterday I kinda agree
I love this album still, and I like the lack of crying now and appreciate the add of the menacing whispers and shit, but nothing quite makes me feel despair like Hypoxic or Desedirate off the last one

Lantlos - Melting Sun

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not that guy but thanks mate gonna go thru this

>I have heard plenty of albums that are not "entry level" and none of them are particular amazing
How would NONE of them be amazing to you? Absolutely fucking zero?
If you've explored the genres thoroughly then I struggle to believe, but I'll accept it's possible, that not even one would blow your mind. Maybe you just like albums that simpler and more to the point? But even then the obscure stuff will still have shit like that.

I've listened to this album several times and can't remember a single note of it
then again, I don't remember most of modern metal releases

matt, please don't grow a beard if it looks like that

Listened to that the other day for the first time and it's interesting, but I have no idea if it's good.
Makes me miss the fuck out of Lord Worm's peak vocals though.

Some "Second wave of Finnish Death Metal" revival bands (Playing in the style of 90s Finnish Death), most of this stuff is over 10 years old though, made a small list. Did I forget anything relevant?

Stench of Decay (Probably my fav by far):
youtube.com/watch?v=9uFhmuIFX94

Ascended (Their singer is the bassist of Stench of Decay):
youtube.com/watch?v=xwxfqng1Ors

Krypts:
youtube.com/watch?v=Lc07D-t6-pw

Slugathor (Probably the heaviest Death metal band hailing from Finland, sadly disbanded):
youtube.com/watch?v=LuUqmGyeY2o
youtube.com/watch?v=INkgpCS0aOg

Desecresy (Slugathor guitarists new project after Slugathor disbanded, best riffs and melodies around)
youtube.com/watch?v=cGkJKyEPfzA

Corpsessed (Solid Death Metal)
youtube.com/watch?v=8lE4uN6VOHo

Lantern
youtube.com/watch?v=DyfqJdPZQa0

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Same, all I can remember is someone screaming "SWING OF THE AXE"

Why's Dissection's Reinkaos hated compared to the praise their two first albums got? It's Jon's last opus. It's clear he switched from meloblack to melodeath because black metal had become a fucking joke of a genre by the time he got out of prison

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it sucks

metal peaked with metallica

Thoughts on Burzum?

mate I want to get into finnish metal more, can you rec me some shit and gibe tips where I can find shit

because you probably just listen to metalsucks best of the year

best black metal band

do you want our thoughts on burzum or varj?

Filosofem is overrated, Burzum/Aske is probably his best work, dungeon synth sucks

dumb opinion

shit opinion

toiletovhell.com/an-introduction-to-finnish-death-metal/

In my opinion, it is/was the most versatile Death Metal scene around. Most countries hailing from the same country tend to have the same sound (especially with the Swedish scene, almost every band tended to sound the same), but there was lots of experimentation in the Finnish scene going on and just straight up weird/obscure stuff like Demilich

thanks my dude

Fen (underrated), Falloch

Picked this up yesterday, fun as fuck.

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Scanner is fucking awesome

That Abyssal album is so fucking good
>that spooky piano riff in Veil of Transcendence that continues even after the slamming starts back up

what SPEAKERS do I buy?

What's your budget/listening situation? Are you looking for computer speakers or do you want to set up a dedicated listening space?

Just for my computer, I'm thinking kinda cheap between 100-200€

If you have an old amp/receiver sitting around you can get passive speakers, which are often a bit cheaper than actives (which provide their own power). If not, or if you can't source a good one off eBay or whatever, I'd suggest the Micca PB42x powered bookshelves- should be like $120 on Amazon, so that should fit your budget when converted out of Freedom Bux

Hey /metal/, what's your favorite Mercyful Fate/King Diamond album and song?

black metal room discord.gg/SDxDAFW

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yeah

>Mercyful Fate

This is perhaps my favorite band of all time since I was 11 years old. I mean most of my friends (who listened metal) had their Iron Maiden phase etc. but for me it was all about King Diamond/Mercyful Fate. I really get nostalgic even talking about MF.

Back in the 90s our city had this record store which sadly does not exist anymore. It had the biggest collection around of vinyls, cds, casettes and I somewhat knew the owner. I would go there after school and just pick up random records from the shelves and the owner would let me listen the stuff, he would later sell me them on discount if I wanted to buy them.

MF had just released a year ago their "Dead Again" album, and I was a little kid back then I just pick up the album on random, but I was really hooked after listening few songs. I always have loved the "horror movie" aesthetic, the small stories of the songs.

Even though people generally think Melissa and Dont Break the Oath are probably the more essential albums of MF, that "Dead Again" album is the single most record I have probably listened more than any other album in my life. I still think it is a masterpiece, even though many MF fans might not think of it anything special.

Sorry for the wall of text, MF just triggers me so much, I generally dont have any fanboy attitudes towards any other artists but something about King Diamond/MF just gets me going.

youtube.com/watch?v=qmlP4j_Xdjw

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Any MF material after Don't break the Oath isn't worth getting into

>Sorry for the wall of text
Don't be, it's a nice story

BREAKING THE LAWL
youtube.com/watch?v=SWKWZdGOC8A

It's just some kids having fun, why do people feel the need to shit on this kind of video?

Well, I am a hardcore MF fan. I don't think they have made a single bad album, not even mediocre album.

King Diamond, on the other hand, has some bad albums, or albums that I do not think of nothing special, but I really think all the music Mercyful Fate produced is extremely good.

yeah well I disagree

What is that you dislike about the newer ones? If I would have to put all the albums by their ranks my list would look something like;

1) Dead Again
2) Melissa
3) In the Shadows
4) Time
5) Don't Break The Oath
6) Into The Unknown
7) 9

I personally have never understood the appeal of "Don't Break the Oath", it is a great album, but I do not consider it even top 3.

You cannot top this Beherit live, then again, it is so ridiculous it is actually based:
youtube.com/watch?v=EPcfeO10tWc

>SATANAAASSSSSsshh

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SALOMONS GATE
SALOMON
SALOMONS GATE

Good opinion

Seething dungeon synth fans, nobody likes your shitty video games music, it is so fucking gay

Thoughts on this?

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dungeon synth is better than at least 3 metal subgenres

best bathory

* blocks your path *
youtube.com/watch?v=heg8l0zspSg

dsynth has some good synth textures and gloomy atmosphere, but it's such a rudimentary form of music that basically any tard can try their hand at it. genre is HORRIBLY oversaturated, lots of garbage and even moreso than metal

Based

swedeath-beat is eternal
youtube.com/watch?v=RqRxFm6oKBo

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Yeah I've seen this, it's pretty good tbqh

youtube.com/watch?v=rNJacSjRAd0&t=244s

dont mind me just being the best black metal album

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>but it's such a rudimentary form of music that basically any tard can try their hand at it. genre is HORRIBLY oversaturated, lots of garbage and even moreso than metal

Perfectly nailed it. I sometimes browse bands on "Dungeon Synth" archives, but I gotta say that 97% of the stuff is absolute garbage.

It is perhaps the most unoriginal genre in existence, and even more oversaturated than the Bedroom Black Metal demo scene, but with Dungeon Synt people have even lower standards to start making music; with black metal you usally have to buy some sort of recording equipment; with dungeon synth you dont need anything but download few programs.

nowhere near the best but still 9/10 and a great album

Better than Octagon

hello varg

>the violin sections
beautiful

Cringe and Bluepilled.

This is the album that killed COF for me. I have never been able to listen through to the end. 75 minutes of unlistenable garbage.

Ugh. Just remember the dirty little soul frigger line. Oof.

>Dat neoclassical riffing

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I think I've figured out why La Famine is taking it us the ass from Aleksei and Militant Zone.

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explain

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yeah it fucking riffs

more black metal needs bass
youtube.com/watch?v=q1gKpkjnozI
youtube.com/watch?v=iAx6yCa84BA

the time I banged ur mum lol rekt

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I refer to an interview from Cercle Non Conforme where La Famine addresses Neige as "My Dear Neige. . ." [1] . It is obvious La Famine had feelins for Neige, but Neige was lost from Les Legions Loires because Famine was so large on French pride and nationalism as Snape was to the black arts. Neige left Les Legions Noires for the Mediterranean French Black metal circle with bands like Omega deathspell and Mutiliation. La Famine over time got more involved with the nationalism side of BM, but was still on the border as various members came and went telling him not to get involved until he finally got close to Alexei of M8L8TH. Alexei was always a troubled boy as was Tom Riddles, as he couldn't control his musical magnificence without killing or harming someone in the process. Now He has come together to front Militant Zone, the Death Eaters as they divide the nsbm community in Europe and Asia between music and motive.

The only question is, who is Harry Potter?

>betraying your actual favourite album

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Blasting this.

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What this?

>how do i reverse image search???????????

You didn't answer his question, pal

>it's another one-man US DSBM project
nah not worth it

>deathsoy omega

obsessed

-

[CROAKING INTENSIFIES]

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>Every human being not going to the extreme limit is the servant or the enemy of man and the accomplice of a nameless obscenity
if that's söy then sign me up

T R I P L E T S

Bongman here, how do I stop appearing to be a tourist. What's wrong with my favourite albums being popular

1. You don't
2. There's nothing wrong with that

thank you based user

pretend to like altars of madness like the rest of the posers on the general

>t. ourist

Thanks all. I will listen to a Helloween album since my father has some of them :^)

buy a decent bm collection and own at least one or two rare demo tapes or rehearsal tapes.

refer to the list.

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*bad album intensifies*

based
youtube.com/watch?v=r3YoYXddg7I

>buying music
lol

I've heard most of those albums

you aren't a tourist then.

how is it bad?

>pretend
I can't "pretend" to like something that's 10/10, it's impossible to dislike

>pretend to like altars of madness like the rest of the posers on the general

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It's not one of the first 3 albums

Digging this at the moment.

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and people call me a tourist

only a tourist would show their affection for post-covenant morbid angel in public

>essential black
>monotheist

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The shift from Omega Therion to Monotheist was blacker than Emperor to Isahn.

Bolt Thrower is not only the best DM band ever, they ARE the best metal band in history. Try to prove me wrong.

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I listened to one of their albums and didn't like it, check mate

doesnt make it any less black than it is for fuck's sake

Despite Bolt Thrower being one of the oldest and most influential acts in the genre, manage to be the most creatively inept, generic, and boring DM bands of all time
It's actually impressive

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Calm down. They're okay.

If Blood Fire Death is essential so it Monothiest.

>Altars of Madness being good
>Bolthrower being influential
>Carcass DM and Melodeath bad
What else does meal get terribly wrong?

>Venom being good

have sex

Jokes on you. Flipping BM records can pay bills these days.

cope

bad bait

3 inches of blood? This list sucks

Fuck off Varg

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I covered that with something else because y'all didn't understand.

One of the better trad metal acts, i cant really vouch for their newer shit but Mythical & Magic is up there as one of the best albums in the genre

shut up poorfag

i hate u

t. nu-male

based satan

sucks to be you then

seething

Stop samefagging and make the new thread.

>sci-fi dragonforce

t. nu-male

>literally whos and albums by popular bands that aren't the albums said bands are known for
you could argue them as your favorites but an essentials list is misleading

incel

Verrater, Estrangment, Quantos, Ruun, Panzerfaust and Cry me To the River are the only albums here that aren't considered classics. Besides, everyone knows the mainstream shit because you can basically buy that shit at Best Buy with a shitty shirt from Hot Topic and pretend to be a fan, this list provides the girth.

>any bands on that list
>literally whos
tourist

If you like Black Metal start with their debut. If you're more of a death metal or blackened death guy start with pic related. Evangelion is their best imo.

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Sventavith > Grom.

Fight Me.

...

>any bands on that list beside bathory and darkthrone
>essentials
tourist

not even the point I was trying to make

but that was the point im trying to make, i am saying to be essential you need a following, it needs to be representative of black metal as a whole

Mourning by Morning.