The late 2000s early 2010s indie explosion

In this thread, we discuss this long gone era. It still has not been defined or been given a name. However, if you were alive when it happened, you know about it. Especially if you were on the Internet. In this thread, we gather as much information as possible about said time. From here on, we will refer to it as "the movement".

>Start
[cannot really pinpoint a start]

>Reasons for start
The improvement of social media (namely the appearance of Facebook and Twitter)
[don't know what other events precipitated the movement]

>Musical context
In short words: indie pop and rock. This music didn't really try to be challenging or groundbreaking. The intent seems to have been to make well produced feel good catchy pop/rock music. In this regard, it was similar to 80s mainstream pop music. There was some anti-mainstream factor to it though, but overall the tone is not by any means against consumerism, at least not in an honest way (think champagne socialists or hippies with an iPhone).
The first half of the 2000s was dominated by post-punk and garage rock revivals (which btw were part of the kick-start of the whole 80s nostalgia thing that we still see today), however interest in bands such Interpol, The Killers and The Strokes faded as the movement progressed.

>Associated genres
neo-psychedelic, post-rock, folk rock, shoegaze, dream pop, math rock, "indietronica", "chillwave" and the internet microgenres explosion (which extended well into the 2010s, culminating at vaporwave). Dubstep was kinda well received before it went mainstream and became brostep.

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>Music influences
Albums like In The Aeroplane Over The Sea, Loveless, OK Computer, Kid A, If You're Feeling Sinister, The Soft Bulletin, etc. were held in high regard in these times, particularly 90s classics

>Most notable acts
Animal Collective, Vampire Weekend, Dirty Projetors, Grizzly Bear, St. Vincent, Girls, The Antlers, Deerhunter, Crystal Castles, LCD Soundsystem, Real Estate, Washed Out, Neon Indian, M83, The xx, Tegan and Sara

>Other notable acts outside the "indie" spectrum
The Knife, Burial and others (someone else complete this)

>Flagship album
Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavilion is perceived as the peak of the movement

>Geographic location
By large took place in America, but thanks to the Internet it's as if it had happened everywhere

>Demographics
"Millennial" generation. Artists and audience where overwhelmingly white or at least were incorporated into the "white" urban lifestyle. Also associated with high-middle to high income, as was the entire hipster phenomenon.

>Political context
The Obama era. The afterburn after the dystopian shift after 9/11. Fox News and Yea Forums were still not on the same side.

>Popular culture
The "hipster" buzzword became novelty and reached its usage peak, probably in reaction to the movement.

>On the Internet
Sites such as Hype Machine and Hipster Runoff were hand in hand with the movement. And of course, more importantly, Pitchfork, which was very anti-mainstream up until 2010.
Social media explosion. People start to literally LIVE online (this being more accentuated in recent years, with now even grocery shopping being done online and Twitter being the official forum for politics).

>On the non-normie Internet
Yea Forums and Yea Forums as a whole see their heyday. Yea Forums was still the biggest board. /pol/ wasn't a thing (perhaps an early incarnation was) and racism hadn't overtaken the whole website. "Memes" were still not a thing in popular culture. A lot of memes from this time became mainstream soon after. For example, GIF responses on Facebook see their origin in Yea Forums's reaction image phenomenon. A lot of the memes we now perceive as normie memes or at best 9gag-reddit memes had their original in places like Yea Forums and Something Awful. In this regard, Yea Forums is by all means one of the most if not THE most influential website of all time.
Yea Forums was probably at its best ever back then. There was a constant battle between indiefags and metalfags, with metalfags losing most of the time due to their reduced number (Yea Forums was originally an almost exclusively metal board at the beginning of Yea Forums)

>End
[cannot really pinpoint an exact end date]
The moment My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy got a 10 from Pitchfork was an important moment for both the advent of hip hop and poptimism as a whole (and hence the end of the movement). However, some albums that became staples of the movement still came out after it.

>Reasons for end
Advent of hip hop. Embrace of hip hop by "indie" publications and circles, particularly Pitchfork.
Poptimism.
Millennials grew older.
The naivety and enthusiasm of young people were stripped away once the fragmentation of society become more heightened and evident and we realized we live in 1984 (see Snowden leaks).
Identity politics becoming mainstream at the late stages of the Obama era probably a contributing factor.
People just got tired of it.

>Acts belonging to the movement who are still going
The only two acts I can think of who were big during the movement and still manage to get some hype and critical acclaim are Vampire Weekend and Beach House

Also Sufjan Stevens and St Vincent I guess

bump so you don't feel lonely

What a shit era

Bump

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I hate you but I still wish you could have more real friends to socialize with.

t. butt-ravaged zoomers

yeah me too

so (bar radio dept) american rock music basically

Thanks for the vignette user, was a nice read.

who remembers Hipster Runoff?

you can remember it
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it was a comedy goldmine imo, even if the humor was silly. it could be quite disrespectful though, it wouldn't last much with today's PC standards

Bon Iver, but he’s moved forward into a very 2010s sound

aww man i miss unchill azn bro

There were some cool albums that came out that era but overall it was pretty shit.

Who was /your buzz band/?

I rated Sleigh Bells from day one.

Good times, when I first was really learning to discover my own music tastes in high school. Surprised to see so much hate for it here now because this was all pretty much Yea Forumscore for a while

this was a good idea for a thread until i read it


MPP is not the peak of indie
Kid A is not indie

indie hasn't ended and is a wide enough genre to continue giving fruits for years to come

please read a book

>MPP is not the peak of indie
It was the peak of the era described in the OP, not indie as a whole
>Kid A is not indie
Where did I say it was?
>indie hasn't ended
you don't say?

This truly was a golden era, it's amazing how it voluntarily committed suicide so quickly.

One of the things that always sticks out to me was how much listening to that music felt like social currency. People really did hold certain bands in their hearts, and if you had heard of them or knew it you were almost immediately accepted into them, it was a great way for them to make friends.

It also makes me realise how many great acts we lost. I can only imagine how many kids listening to that era got inspired, then once they came of age and were mature enough to release their break out LP, it was 2019 and literally no one gave a shit anymore, Coachella was already booked by Missy Diva #124 and Face Tattoos #218, you were just another mistyped result on a Spotify search for someone with more push.

*listens to the Suburbs in FLAC again*

i think widespread usage of smartphones, streaming services and social media killed this "era" or whatever you wanna call it. just a massive onslaught of normies who invaded every space and suffocated any and all perceived "elitism"
which is why you've got every indie act of today calling the music they grew up on as literal children, like mariah carey and britney spears, "genius". there are no barriers to anything anymore, it is not cool to be tryhard, there is no currency or credibility left in taste and distinction. only places like Yea Forums are still bitterly yammering on about "plebs" and calling shit entry-level etc, it has become a parody of itself
and much like many indie artists began making inroads to the major-label music industry by songwriting and producing, the publications who previously championed them now had a huge new audience to profit off of, and the simplest possible one at that

there's probably a connection to 2nd obama admin identity politics here too

>i think widespread usage of smartphones, streaming services and social media
I think the Internet contributed to both the birth and the death of this era. It's scary how basically all aspects of living are moving to the Internet. A decade ago, spending your entire day in front of the screen talking to strangers on the Internet was an outcast thing to do. Now even normies do the same on Twitter and we are all hooked to devices constantly

i remember people posting this album over and over on Yea Forums. i still like it desu

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Hence why I laugh at people who look down on "e-celebs". All celebrities have to be active online now. Soon, e-celebs will be the only celebs. Hollywood already moved to streaming services and Facebook, Youtube and Snapchat are the new television.

i miss the old lana, totally keut lana
panned by p4k lana, snl disaster lana
i hate the new lana, the witch bitch lana
the cool wine aunt lana, hollywood shitlib lana

IMO Before 2010 I believe this "Indie" hype began on UK wherein NME shills all of these upcoming bands.

>Upper tier: Kasabian, Bloc Party, Arctic Monkeys, Franz Ferdinand, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, The Killers, The Strokes, MGMT, Arcade Fire, Interpol, Radiohead

>Lower tier: Kaiser Chiefs, Kings of Leon, Keane, The Libertines,The Hives, Hot Chip, Snow Patrol, Klaxons, Babyshambles, Editors, The Maccabees, Maximo Park

I'd argue the UK (particularly northeast England) got there slightly earlier with bands like Field Music, The Futureheads and Maxïmo Park, who are still going strong today

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in the 2010s the Brewis brothers have single-handedly turned British indie music around from the nadir of 2005-2009's Libertines-imitating landfill

Most of those are early 2000s post-punk and garage rock revival, which are not the scope of this thread. Of course "indie" existed since the 80s (I think)
Most of those bands were discarded prior to the start of the movement described in the OP. Of the ones you list, only MGMT, Arcade Fire and Hot Chip made it into the movement
I guess you could describe a shift between a UK, NME dominated era (what you describe) to an American, Pitchfork dominated era (the movement described in the OP)

bump good old days

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Do you think the word "Indie" is loosely used in early/late 2000? I swear amost every upcoming bands I heard in these years is almost associated with the word indie

>I guess you could describe a shift between a UK, NME dominated era (what you describe) to an American, Pitchfork dominated era (the movement described in the OP)
Yeah, exactly

I had not heard of those bands. Thanks

So you're describing band that around during the advent of chillwave?

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>The late 2000s early 2010s indie explosion
It was the mid-late 2000's. 2010-2012 were like indie's final death throws.

We're literally still so deep into a definable era of music that we don't even really realize it but that's what I love about music

god this is depressing

So what the fuck are you saying? Vaporwave is the culmination of 2 decades worth of music? It's hard to define what vaporwave even is

*bands that were
I accidentally some words :)

stop reading music journalism

No such list would be complete without Tame Impala.

Grizzly Bear's Yellow House was like the Music From Big Pink of that era.

who remembers Hipster runoff?

>tfw no Carles tweets

he was mid 2010's

nothing to contribute but have a bump for a nice idea and effort

Innerspeaker was released in 2010

Bumping for the only thoughtfully written post I've seen on this board in literal months.

>Late 00s

Even if a lot of the music doesn't hold up it was a pretty cool era as the libertines influenced NME landfill had died off by that point. it was very much the 80s revival with neon neon, mystery jets, passion pit, MGMT etc. Even Keane were in on it with Spiralling which was a pretty cool single at the time.

good post, nostalgia for this era has been bouncing around my head for awhile now

Tim Heidecker's "The Comedy" is a good movie to pair with the end of this movement

Bump

the impact of shoegaze and idm is important as well

lot of these bands were influenced by huge artists in these movements

the whole diy movements and blog


I feel the genre evolved into more underground genres like psychedelic drone, psychedelic dub, hypnagogic pop, chillwave, which then ended up influencing vaporwave, cloud rap, and witch house

the impact of hypagogic pop is underrated imo as well, the whole post dubstep thing infused with hypagogic pop and now we see this whole uk bass thing being huge


sometimes i miss the late 00s era but im glad it evolved

I thought it was lame and stopped listening to indie rock at that time. I consider the start to be Arcade Fire's Funeral. It wasn't really like old indie rock, and it was the first expression of what we now think of as the millennial aesthetic. It was softer, very self-conscious and about how special and heartfelt your life was. I think it was the effect of 9/11 culture somehow affecting the left after mostly affecting conservatives at first. It was about safety, very serious, no jokes. It was "sincere" instead of ironic which is the mindset we all know now in SJWs.

Like it or not, Peter Bjorn And John's 'Writer's Block' was the peak of 2000s indie and its defining album. Shame it got taken over by Starbucks-swilling hipsters.

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I will also say they failed and fail today because they didn't really oppose the "ironic hipsters" like they think. Irony is the dissonance between what you expect and what happens. The "ironic hipster" of the early 2000s is not actually ironic because they are so detached they don't expect anything. The millennial SJW knows everything already so they can't be surprised either. Irony is actually someone who knows they don't know and is happy to constantly be wrong and recognize that they're wrong. I think Yea Forums is the true form of irony, although the media always falsely casts it as being the same as the detached hipster.

Glad someone beat me to this, however I would specifically say that the movement began the moment pitchfork gave funeral a 9.7 and ended when it gave MBDTF a 10. I think those are the most important points in the timeline. Something should be said for Conde Nast socialpolitics also.

Amsterdam is a fucking super track.

Yeah it was around that time pitchfork started reviewing mainstream hip hop. Not that I object to that but in the early 2000s they didn't. So it was the start of poptimism and stuff. I just didn't dig the music, even bands that existed in the 90s and reformed started making music get was worse. Like modest Mouse with Good News... Compared to their older stuff was a good example, even though it was only a few years after Moon and Antarctica you can see the difference in style, Good News... Is more characteristic of that late 2000s indie.

The canadian indie rock boom of the early 00s was amazing as well. 2002 to around 2005 or so.

2006-2008 was a transition period for indie that still saw tons of amazing albums.

09 to about 11 was definitely a magical period though for sure.

Im so happy I grew up white and upper middle class.

I definitely agree the death of elitism was the worst thing to happen to the music scene.

Thea early days of pitchfork savagery against anything perceived as mainstream was amazing in comparison to the utterly disgusting worship of corporate shit by those same publications today.

They're one of the most underrated bands I'm into imo. Falling Out, Gimme Some and Seaside Rock are all killer albums as well.

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This is the best Animal Collective song by 10,000 miles

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no, elitism is wack and petty and all around cringe behaviour to engage in. if you don't like something or something doesn't appeal to you you should do your best to ignore it, not attack it. it just reeks of insecurity

i just wish that artists/critics of stature would wholly reject mainstream influence and mainstream channels, i.e. not deal with it at all, but i understand that it's getting rather difficult to avoid as media gets increasingly centralized and the distinctions blur

like avril lavigne's debut album is having a resurgence in popularity among young (mostly female) indie musicians right now, and that's fine, i liked that one as a kid, listen to what you want etc but stop blabbering about it like you're this totally chill person who can enjoy trashy corny nostalgic pap. it's all quasi-ironic signalling and makes me fucking sick, like that record was made by committee, got played across the entire planet and sold in the tens of millions, it's pure product, it is the lamest thing ever and does not need any "reassessment"; in fact, no one needs to hear another word about that fucking thing for as long as the world turns

did i just do an elitism?shit

I always called it Blog Rock, because in the era before Instagram (zoomers have all stopped reading now), that was how we discovered that music. Hipster Runoff, Gorilla vs. Bear, etc

I remember going to the record store and asking if they had it, they didn't know who I was talking about... Fucking mainstreamers

Fuck

Yeah kind of, but it’s a fair(ish) point. The fact that Avril Lavigne underwent so much manufacturing was why albums like “Best Damn Thing” have awkward and unflattering passages.

I’ve gotten pretty invested in Avrils catalogue and yes, my defences raise a bit of quasi-irony bullshit when I talk about her. It’s a little goofy to get super fond of Avril Lavigne. Plus, 95% of my conversations about Avril can’t get past “SHE WAS A SK8R BOY”, which is fine, because it is pop manufactured blah blah blah, and most people just don’t want to hear me parade shit like, “But Let Go is actually a good album.” In my eyes, at the very least, she was a great singer whose artistic intent was too guided by pop pressures and industry hands. I’m an advocate for her and her music but most people just think I’m taking the piss

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09-11 was the golden age, and 12 was the last real year. Good times

I feel like Arcade Fire's The Suburbs was the peak encapsulation of this era more than MPP

>Tfw no Arctic Monkeys mentioned

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tfw this will be my dadrock

PureVolume, Myspace
these were the largest platforms for the boom

It's not dead yet
Tame Impala, Snail Mail, Mac DeMarco, Mitski are all doing cool shit

snail mail and mac demarco are insults to guitar-centric music

bunch of plebs

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But they're all micro microcrash.

>Sleigh Bells
>Gang Gang Dance
>Fleet Foxes
>Grimes
>Arcade Fire
>Of Montreal
>Crystal Castles
>Vampire Weekend
>Bon Iver
and of course, the timeless school-shooter anthem Pumped Up Kicks
and fucking Hey There Delilah...

>Urban Outfitters
>American Apparel
>the facial hair boom
>the flannel boom
>the vinyl revival
>the rise of Vice and Pitchfork and their eventual sell-out
>the value of obscurity
what an era. glad to have lived through it

this. MPP is too psychedelic and 'experimental' compared to the mainstream power that the big indie wave had
The Suburbs won AOTY at the Grammys ffs...

I think 12 was the last year the internet was good, too. More I think about it, the more I realize the sjw shit has killed everything I ever loved.

hype/flavor of the month groups. shit era, i'm glad is dead fuckers.

But that was more important during the emo/scene heyday a few years prior

i got overhyped by your initial post but discouraged by the following few

also, this era is more associated with reddit than anything, Yea Forums culture had little to do/still too obscure to be of significance

I miss shit like Foster the People and AWOLNATION. Even buzz bands like Young the Giant, Dale Earnhardt Jr Jr, and Cults were still good
I discovered Sleigh Bells after the indie era so I guess it's not all dead.
Conde Nast spat on and annihilated memories from my young adulthood.

this
remember surfer blood?
remember metronomy?

>tfw no projj girl gf to watch Portlandia seasons 1 and 2 with

>complaining about hipsters in a thread about indie rock

Who /Coachella2011/ here

>Political context
The Obama era. The afterburn after the dystopian shift after 9/11. Fox News and Yea Forums were still not on the same side.

Obama era was woke hip hop and poptimism era that replaced indie music. By 2008 most of the indie scene was already a rotting corpse.