This is just Death Grips for gay people

Does that mean it's better? Then, yes, it is.

others here deliberately misgendering someone in 2019 is also pretty cringe

this

Nah, maybe death grips for bottoms. Death grips is already pretty gay.

rude

gender = sex though

Is that so? So it’s correct to say “I just had gender with someone”?

penis = male
vagina = female
fake penis = mutilated female
fake vagina = mutilated male

it's that simple

what you are right about is that sexual organs do describe male and female sexes. what you are missing is that gender is not concerned with what parts you got but rather if you express your gender as “man” or “woman”, which are distinct from male and female sexes. also, most trans people don’t “mutilate” themselves or have “fake” parts.

sure, but if you're a man who wants to present yourself as a woman, you're still a man, and therefore will be referred to as he, him, etc., unless you can't tell that you're a man

Go ahead.

faggot

so you’re saying everythings gotta match right? fair, i don’t know many trans people who still present as men but insist on being referred to as women. many will transition to present themselves how they wish.

well, let’s bring this back to sophie. besides the fact that you know she’s a transwoman, why else would you be inclined to call her a he? she wears women’s clothing, has women’s style of hair, and has feminine mannerisms. would you call Sophie a she?

no he has a dick

Well, actually........

stay obsessed over dicks mate

Well maybe yeah. Still like it though

I love her

you gotta love people when someone defends lgbt and calls the other person gay as an insult in the same sentence lol

>him

When did they call you gay? Just that your obsession with dicks is weird.

i’m a literal homosexual and i fucking despise trans abominations. it insults me to be grouped with a bunch of mentally deranged creatures who willingly undergo life altering pharm treatmwnt/genital mutilation only to be laughed at by virtually everyone else and eventually killing themselves. liking boipucci is a noble interest, anyone identifying as anything else than their birth sex should be burned at a stake though.

him

No u.

i'm not obsessed with dicks. it's just that having a dick makes you a male/man, and having a vagina makes you a female/woman. how you choose to identify is irrelevant.

Okay:)

if i dressed up in a trench coat, wore a fake beard and walked around with a cane, would you refer to me as an old man?

Age and gender aren't comparable even in the most bizarre of worlds.

why not? And what about race, since multiple people have already tried to become "trans-racial"

Fuck them.

but how is that different? why is gender sacred?

It's not sacred. It's just not comparable to any of the examples you give.

why not?

sophie is a woman

Age is a number.

Sophie is actually pleasing to look at, though. why would she ever an hero?
Also she makes good money, lives in a futuristic house, and everybody loves her music.

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wom·an
/ˈwo͝omən/
noun
an adult human female.

She's actually really pretty.

that's a cliche, not an argument

You mean age is not a number?

yes it is. but you can identify with an age other than your own, much like you can identify with the opposite sex. the only difference is no one would ever take the former seriously, while the latter has become mainstream. both are equally delusional.

>like ohmyfuckinggod autogynephilia bleep bloops wow that's so innovative :oooo
nobody gave a fuck until the kid transitioned and then all the content farmers pounced because they felt obligated

transwomen are incels and make awful music

Other gender.

Nah it's just good music. Sophie and Amnesia Scanner are some of the few artists doing interesting things with the genre.
Also Sophie is hot as fuck. You WISH you were this beautiful.

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If there's a psychological study proving the existence of age dysphoria, then sure I'd call a person dressing up as an old person, old.

nah it's trite crap and you've got shit taste across the board homie real talk vruh

quick rundown?

>Album recognized as great music, everybody loves your sound.
>Great success!
>boomerkins on Yea Forums say you must have dysphoria.
How come you never look twice when an artist cuts themselves on stage and rubs poop in the cuts like GG Allin, but one electronic artist likes to have tits and live as a girl?
>DYSPHORIA
>AN HERO
>HE
Imagine if these losers ever listened to Throbbing Gristle and learned about the members....
How are you on a music forum and not able to be unassuming about an artist's personal choices?

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Quick rundown on what?

i don't think we should let mental illnesses control us. for example, if someone's depressed, that doesn't mean they should stay in bed all day, even if that's what they want to do. similarly, people with gender dysphoria shouldn't damage their body trying to be the other sex.

their feelings are validated, but they shouldn't make irrational decisions based on their mental disorder.

>nobody gave a fuck until the kid transitioned
that's not true at all, he got a ton of attention especially for Hard
yeah some trannies hopped on board but the recent album would've gotten notoriety either way

it's awful doodoo booty crumb ass music i don't give a fuck who made it bitch

it's a meme you dip

>You're right we should also ban porn, masturbation, alcohol, smoking, and make the work week 70 hours instead of 40.
>Make any form of rest and freedom illegal. You must submit to the ZOG wageslave matrix or be destroyed.

If laying in bed all day helps with their depression, then why not?

Your music sucks user I heard what you uploaded and I thought to myself "damn this dude's shit is trash"
you used it incorrectly user

i don't make music, i criticize criticism \:-)

none of those things should be banned. we're responsible for our own actions.

it doesn't help in the long run. it temporarily ceases the pain, but staying in that cycle does nothing but prolong a shitty situation. i'm speaking from experience here.

>him

That was an analogy. I meant gender reassignment can improve their condition. A Cornell University study called 'what we know', I think it's called, showed that most of the people reported improved lives.

so its worth a listen. huh?
ive been ignoring it

tranny tranny is a manny

It is. Decide for yourself. I really liked both Product and this.

yeah it's great. Keep an open mind, watch the Ponyboy video.

Gender intercourse you dense fuck

mediocre album, and I hope the shilling for this tranner fucking stops, I hate how music has degenerated into this cesspool of mediocre but highly individualistic and degenerate artists

She looks better than grimes tf

>she

Born as a man, you think like a man. Same goes for women. Even after the genital swaps. Trans people will never truly feel complete as whatever gender they want to be. Because it was never their role. Sooner or later the underlying problem will start to itch again

Noted.

cope

okay we get it, you're fat and balding and hate anything progressive because it reminds you of women.
you can leave the thread now

i am amazed how quickly this whole 'gender is something you pick for yourself' has caught on during this past decade, in the sense that it is widely accepted. like i can't recall ever hearing about trans people in the mainstream before 2011-2012 and suddenly it was everywhere and being pushed by corporations and shit

You are so fragile it's actually funny

>I can't tell the difference between a male and female
Lmaoing @ ur life

>i can't tell the difference between biological sex and gender
Its even funnier when this people try to sound smart

cope harder bitch

Are you trans by chance? Serious question

Trans people have existed for decades. Gender non-conformity has for centuries.

There were plenty of trans people, they just transitioned and went on with their lives as if nothing ever happened.

Why does it matter?

>i-i don't understand what you say, c-cope!
Dance! Dance, monkey!

You don't deserve tolerance or acceptance for a distinction you brought on yourself.

>getting triggered
Stupid tranny bitch can't cope, lol

Nothing wrong with trans people. The only ones you ever really see are the extremists online. "My feelings, me, me, I." If you truly want to do something, do it. Never out of spite, or to avoid something in your path

I didn't answer in the affirmative, user. You can think whatever you want.

did i claim anything to the contrary....??
yeah i mean until a few years ago trannies were something you really only heard about in b movies or lou reed lyrics or something

It doesn't, i dont care what you do in any aspect, I don't have any trans friends and since this is anonymous I just wanted to ask some questions in all honesty

I'm not.

>avoiding the issue
If you don't want people to know about it may as well just stay in your closet.

But if they looked ridiculous we werent forced to participate in the delusion. We literally have to nod in agreement now.

Go ahead, but don't think it doesn't make you an asshole.

"Transgenderism" is just a narcissistic AGP fetish.

Where's the gun to your head?

Trannies are the biggest assholes
>deconstruct society and rebuild it in a way that caters to me!

i rest my case

Ok. Have a good day

fag

Wasn't there some #woke thinkpiece in like 2014 where they accused Sophie of appropriating feminine aesthetics without actually experiencing the struggles of being a woman or something like that

This feels like arguing with a very arrogant teenager lmao

idk but i know grimes tweeted that she found it a bit offensive

Bruh if you think thats attractive as a “woman” then you are also mentally ill

In the holsters of about a few million US law enforcement officers.

My thing is why do people even want to do that? Are they just hardwired into physical reality? Is there no other output for feminine or masculine energy? How does it change their lives if you are just doing the same things after?

Here's your prescripted dose of Too Much Paranoia - Devo. Feel better man

>trans ppl and other minorities who have been discriminated and oppressed for the majority of time since start of imperialism:
we deserve basic rights

>white cis straight men who have literally built society in a way that suits them only:
trannis are asshole for wanting the same rights and acceptance as white male cis folk do!

buhbuhbuhbased

People need to learn how to ignore certain posts.

no. grimes literally wrote the article thinking sophie was a cis male appropriating "femenine" identities and aesthetics (as if there even is such a thing). she apologized after but i think her ideas are clearly TERFy and limied in terms of gender. (and she clearly is a shitbag anyways since she supports a robber baron capitalist piece of sht)

Heres your dose of
The courts have already ruled on this and they decided in your favor, faggot.
Thats why we are seeing trannies shatter female sports records and parents being forced to allow children to call the shots.
There is no paranoia here you filth.

Same with all the other people before trannies in 2012. But you don't want to help anyone but yourself. Just like the rest, thinking you're the best

>trannis are asshole for wanting the same rights and acceptance as white male cis folk do

Trannies always had the same rights as white male cis folk do you idiot. And you faggots are still whining.

Oof! You got me there.. where can I read up on this? Seriously

the very fact that ppl are using hate speech on here against trans ppl and denying our existence on here shows we do not have the same rights...

>parents being forced to allow children to call the shots.
why should adults or society chose you gender for you? forcing ppl into genders is abuse

No one is denying your existence you idiot.

And it seems to be fine for you to spew out hate speech about "white cis male folk"

The parents are the only ones being forced to do anything in these cases.
Dont get it twisted, faggot.

Okay this is the same person, and doesn't know what they are talking about. Normie tier, promotes crimerhink, please look away...

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allowing the child the autonomy o their own gender identity is forcing the parents to do something?

>gender
this is so fucking retarded

just stop

nobody has a right to never read mean things on public sites

What is the most important or valuable thing in your life at this moment? What drives you to go on with your day? As someone who is opposed to exposing sex, and sexuality to young children (whom, you may not know, DONT think about sex and gender at all.) I'm curious.

Yes faggot.
Parents are losing custody of their children for not allowing the children to go through trans medical procedures.

We are literally having this shit forced upon us at gunpoint.

you looking it from the wrong lens. its parents and society imposing a gender on the child. they are being resticted from being allowed to force their choice of gender on their child!

i never said they should be exposed to it. but i tihnk your really mistaken if you dont think children already do think about this stuff just not in articulated language. i certainly remember having gender dysmophia even as a young child being forced to present and take up roles that my parents, teachers, and other adult forced upon me.

>her

I disagree as Death Grips lacks the sophistication, melody, and general playfulness of the textures on this record.

SO this IS death grips.

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No, you are mistaken here. You just said that children should be able to "allow the child the autonomy of their gender identity," therefore exposing such things. Just because there are things in this world considered "girly" or "boy-like" doesn't mean you MUST have to consider it that way too. And if you do, you are just another part of the problem. It's not about gender identity, it's about the energy output a person has. I'm sorry you felt that way in your youth but I don't believe that is the solution (gender swapping, especially in children.) if you're grown and want to do that, go for it. But do not be pushing your beliefs upon children

based satan

>let’s bring this back to sophie. besides the fact that you know she’s a transwoman, why else would you be inclined to call her a he?

From what I've seen of Samuel Long, he at most presents as a masculine genderqueer crossdresser and constantly flaunts his flat male chest and nipples. He maintains a masculine voice and doesn't make a significant effort to appear feminine outside of adopting a handful of socially constructed "feminine" traits such as hair style and makeup. Hell, for years most people who knew and worked with him just assumed he was just a "cis" man putting on a flamboyant musical act under the "SOPHIE" stage name. He's exactly the kind of "trans" person that normal people feel uncomfortable referring to as or accepting as a woman, and frankly I wouldn't be surprised if the trans community were upset at him co-opting their cause as well.

>This is just Death Grips
this sophie dude actually has some listenable music, so, no, not at all.

newsflash: normal people feel uncomfortable about ALL trans people and accept none of them as actual women. it's just a dual charade

And that is exactly why all the trannies on RYM love it so much

>tranny infighting
lemme get the popcorn

Im almost 100% they would force me to be a tranny if i was a kid today.
I did a lot of girly shit from the ages of 4-8.
Thank god i was born before generation dick chop

queer isn't gender

>normal people feel uncomfortable about ALL trans people
Normal, functional adults who actually interact with the real world see trans people every day and have no idea because they're passing. I worked with and flirted constantly with a very attractive girl for months as a food server in my teens before I found out she was born a male, and it didn't bother me at all other than writing her off as a potential romantic interest because I'm not into dick.

Being a rage-filled bigot is not normal, kiddo, and if the existence of trans people bothers you that much, you have some serious personal demons that you need to sort out.

>trans people every day and have no idea because they're passing

yeh, these arent the ones having temper tantrums over being called the wrong pronoun

no shit retard. that's why it's called genderqueer.

Death Grips welcomes the gays though

>Whose penis is that on your album cover?

>“Yeah, that’s mine,” Hill finally admits. “It was difficult to do, honestly, in general, it was very difficult. It’s difficult even telling people that’s the source of it; it feels sacrificial in a sense. That idea existed long before, by the way. This is going to sound funny to other people, but we saw it as tribal, as spiritual, as primal. Also, it comes from a place of being a band that is perceived as…such an aggressive, male-based, by some, misogynistic-seeming band. If you can get past this and still enjoy the music…. It’s a display of embracing homosexuality, not that either of us are homosexual. Am I making sense? People are still going to think that it’s macho, but that’s not the source of where it comes from.”

>Burnett interrupts, and quietly, asks, “I mean, do we seem like macho people?”
spin.com/2012/11/death-grips-artist-year-2012-no-love-deep-web/4/

>I think the biggest misconception is in the sense of the music. Where our heads are at is much different than most Hip-Hop and rap artist heads are at. For example we are pro-homosexual, pro-feminist and progressive. We’re anti-closed mind, anti-conservative and anti-homophobe. We make aggressive-macho sounding music but we’re definitely progressive.
thesource.com/2012/03/16/deathgripsaspiretobethebeatlesofrap/

And how many of those do you interact with everyday? I'm gonna take a big whopping guess of 0. Because those are the extremists worth the loudest voices

>the ones having temper tantrums over being called the wrong pronoun
and these ones are vocal fringe outliers in an already extreme minority, shunned by most of the rest of said minority so I don't see what the issue seems to be.

wasn't death grips just pretentious "performance art" bullshit in the end though. they certainly weren't musicians.

>hey its all chill bro
No the fuck it isnt. Tranny shit is clearly and plainly being forced upon our society.
Lie harder if you want to pretend it isnt happening.

And then you=fag

that's not a word.

its like flavorchocolate.

I don't know what you're talking about. But yeah I had a gay friend when I was really young, and he would force things upon me that I didn't understand at the time. Didn't make me gay or make me feel like a woman. I just think children should explore life themselves. Ask questions, and have them answered in a objective way. Not have solutions for problems that aren't there

lol its just you closet cuks secret porn preferences leaking out via tumblr

I don't think so. I think they stood up to par for a good amount of time. Sadly, their music is now deteriorating

No dummy, girl shit wasnt forced upon me. I wanted to do the girly shit like play dress up and play with dolls and shit when i was that age. Then i just became a dude when puberty started coming around.
If doctors wouldve implanted a thought in my head that i was a girl i wouldve probably just rolled with it at that age.

what?

>the discord trannies are taking over REEEEEEE
>It's true because /pol/ keeps showing me cherry picked examples and that's the only interaction with the "real world" that I get from mom's basement!

hows that different from now, Sally?

>brainlet doesn't know how language works
are you french or something?

merriam-webster.com/dictionary/genderqueer

jfc more buzzwords

sorry, i cant understand whatever jibberish language this is you are speaking

still not a word

go suck some flavorchocolate out your ass

andy reminds me of the Trainspotting guy if his drug use lead to his success instead of downfall

The last time they did any sort of stunt in that vein was 2014, it's been all music for them since then. To the point of refusing any media appearances and strictly letting the music speak for itself.

i thought they had a long history of this kind of dumb shit, and actual musicians have since refused to work or tour with them because they're just a bunch of irl shitposters who pull dumb stunts and shit on their fans for a reaction. like their entire purpose was a performance art piece to see how much of a fanbase they could build and how much douchey behavior they could get away with if they simply call themselves "musicians" and produce any kind of noise at all.

metro.co.uk/2013/08/07/death-grips-gig-no-show-was-a-piece-of-performance-art-3914881/

nme.com/news/music/nine-inch-nails-20-1241095

keep burying your head in the sand, autist. hiding in mom's basement doesn't stop change from happening in the world.

I'm not into the whole cheekbone thing she has going on, it looks way over the top but I wouldn't be surprised if she was aiming for this.

She has Bogdanoff vibes now.

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it was that way when it was just exmilitary
nowadays lots of people know death grips, seriously most rap fans who use the internet will recognize the name. coworker played the money store at work a few months ago and nobody said a thing

it's one of those low quality forced memes propagated by a handful of legitimately autistic people posting it every day. like neutral milk hotel.

oh yes, and thank you for centuries of rubbing your straightness in peoples faces

None of us would exist without it

you have undiagnosed schizophrenia

fucking pedantic waste of time
who the fuck cares
let people act like freaks if they want to

>gender
Nice spook.

That's just not true and you know it

i wish i was her

I knew what you were talking about, dongus. I'm saying that people telling you and presumably forcing you to do things is what causes problems. You seem steady headed though, as for the "girly" things you did, most would stop of think about why, how, and then assume that they must want something they never knew yknow?
But who cares, it's not like this shit is affecting any of us anyways

what are these rights that trans people didnt have but "white cis males" did have.

So you just call tomboys "he"?

I'm gay and I fucking hate this mentally ill tranny so much

>this sophie dude
Why do you try so hard

>Here sir, you dropped your tinfoil hat

Oh yeah that did happen lol, I can't stand up for that since I wasn't there. Asshole move yeah, maybe something happened behind the curtains. I like the music either way, and don't find it pretentious at all.

obsessed

what do you mean, he's just calling him by his real gender?

To not be fucking killed for a start

>its tin foil hat to discuss the possibility of things that literally happen happening.

fag harder, faggot

you have the right to do what you want with your body, we have the right to refer to you by your biological sex. stop acting surprised when someone calls a man a man.

this isnt a thing though

Then I'll just call you a woman because you seem like a bitch

feel free to call me a woman, a bitch, a retard, a faggot, an incel, a piece of shit, a virgin, an autist, a brainlet, an autist, an asshole, or whatever you want. i'm not a pussy that gets offended by random insults from strangers.

I wish
what do you wish for?
being respected as a gendercuk?

in the same way that this man has a "feminine" haircut and wears makep yet still looks like a male, tomboys have "masculine" haircuts and wear neutral clothing yet still look like females.

based
based womanly bitchy retarded faggoty incel virgin piece of shit double-autistic asshole brainlet