/prod/ - music production general

You'll need to warp/quantize the audio to fit your grid, the song was recorded in the 70s and I doubt they'll have used any sort of click track so the tempo will drift.

>I'm not criticizing you. I'm just trying to piece together the pieces of information to understand this thing I'm confused about.
you are and you should and what you've said is totally valid because it makes me consider if what i am saying is entirely true, which while it irks me, is the key to progress. that being said, what i am saying is definitely true even if i cant explain like an electrical science PhD.

>So it's about the artifacts and not the normal operation of a compressor?
it would be about both i imagine? as i dont make plugins or what not and i use them very liberally my understanding of their uses goes very deep but their by understanding of the coding or voltages isnt as developed. to me a compressor that isnt totally flat and linear and all that jazz isnt necessarily bad, just less transparent and it depends on the tone you desire - i sound like a broken record kek

>Would you say it's an intrinsic part of how a compressor works - like how a normal (minimum-phase) EQ alters the phase unless it's specifically designed not to (linear-phase ones) because of how it works (by duplicating and offsetting signals, as far as I understand) - or is it an unintended defect that isn't supposed to be there but the tech isn't good yet?
if i understand the question properly, then yes i would say its an intrinsic part of the comp, which largely means what im saying is quite... not irrelevant, but uncontrollable... or at least a variable to be "accounted" (or not!) for - which is why i run straight back to the idea of compression is irrelevant because you arnt trying to compress something, you are trying to do a task than a compressor achieve. for example, you compress something - the whole spectrum becomes more evenly spread out - this changes the perceived volume of the whole sound, this allows you to change the volume to accomodate the new features of your sound. the change in perceived volume is the desired task, the compressor is the tool, but volume automation is not what made the effect occur, it is the "normalization" of the harmonic series - which again you could say is an incredibly complicated multiband volume attenuation - but then it comes back to the idea of way too much information to think about and that music is portraying your idea in sound pressure, not an understanding in the proper use of a compressor or other tools.
alternative tools to achieve the same task will very often reap benefits, tonally speaking - and tone translates to timbre - which relates to how pleasant it is to a human ear!

thanks. how do i quantize audio in cubase 7? or any plugin for that? i only know how to quantize midi

Tempo maps in Cubase will alter the master tempo of the song to match an analysed audio track so you can keep the overall feel of the song, but you might also want to look into keeping the song at a fixed tempo while quantizing the audio to fit:

soundonsound.com/techniques/tempo-trap

I see...
I definitely have to research this more in depth and do some tests.
Thank you very much user. I appreciate the time and effort.

>soundonsound.com/techniques/tempo-trap
thanks bro

post the pro-c settings from that screenshot

it took me 5 years of literally sitting at my pc every day for more than 8 hours a day to come to this sort of mindset, read constantly, practise, read classical arrangement books, practise, listen to wide variety of music, watch tutorials, practise. its just takes time and you know, i could be posting here next year saying EVERYTHING I KNEW LAST YEAR WAS FALSE AND THIS IS WHY. never stop improving, we are better than that.
ok

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your music must be really good, post your soundcloud

i second that

Wholeheartedly agreed.

Don't post your music.
They're gonna shit on it regardless.
The shitposters are out and you gotta be careful lol.

I'm not a shitposter, genuinely want to hear it. As I said, reading his posts makes me think it's going to be good

no i dont wanna shit on it i will post my shitty music as well if you post yours. im genuinly curious

we would never do this

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wow such scary
a shitposter trolling, now how would the guy ever recover from that?

>5 year... every day for more than 8 hours a day to come to this sort of mindset, read constantly, practise, read classical arrangement books, practise, listen to wide variety of music, watch tutorials, practise.
He may have built himself a strong foundation but what will determine how good his music is is the amount of actual practise [sic] and not simply gathering knowledge/information.

This post is way funnier to me than it should be.

Not him but yeah...
I've been making music for 6 years and I suck because I studied more than I practiced.

Well to be perfectly honest I didn't study much either, but still, practice is fundamental.

he says he practiced in his original post tho learn to read bro lmao

>what will determine how good his music is is the amount of actual practise [sic]

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i get what you are saying - you are of the belief that the ratio between *read constantly, practice, read books, practice, listen, watch, practice* is heavily skewed against 'practice' even though it is mentioned 3 times unlike the other entries which appear only once.

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Just post your music you fucking mozart

post it dude

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I'm not mozart you fuckers. Mozart is obviously dead and there's no way I could even live that long.

You win this one Mr. David Foster Wallace.
My interpretation was that the time spent is skewed towards reading and listening because that shit alone takes a ton of time. Mentioning practice between each of them made me picture someone reading a book for ~4 hours and then practicing what they learned for ~1 hour before going on to the next book or next record or whatever.
Mozart was 35 when he died -- what the fuck? Chopin: 39. Jesus.

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how to improve this mix and the drum programming
instaud.io/3wuj

yes we needed 3 posts to remind us of that meme

IT'S NOT MY FAULT, HE STARTED IT

and I was dead before I even had a chance to live

What site has the best ear training exercises?

ffs just pick your guitar

tonedear.com/ear-training/intervals-in-solfege-context

>/prod/
>playing instruments
Hahahahaha

Where do you guys find all these tracks separated nicely? I mean, who the fuck obtains that, and how??

So I actually went to reddit about a week ago for the first time to see what all the fuss is about. And it's just as bad as you guys said it is, the fucking moderators are losers jesus christ.

read the op??

I'm asking generally[??]

You know, people who upload that shit on the internet[??]

How do they obtain it[??]

Retard.[??]

If you spend some actual time on it you'll see that it's not so bad.
It's much worse.

The community is total garbage for so many reasons, but niche subreddits are an excellent way to find informations, guides, and links of all kinds.
Just don't spend too much time reading the comments.
Just get the links they post, maybe read the wiki if the subreddit has one, and don't get involved with the people.

cuck [??]

do not [??]
reply {?_ to me {{{

again [??!]
thinking i give a shit :?:

Some times they're bundles in some app or program as part of some promotion, and people extract it from there.
Some times it's in videogames like guitar hero or rock band.
Some times when the song gets an official remix, someone between the artist and the remixer/s there's someone who decides to upload a copy online.
Some times there's a remix contest where the partecipants can download the stems to partecipate with their own remix.
Some times someone close to the studio that worked on the production or mixing decides to upload them.
Some times they're homemade from the original song (it's rare that this produces good results).
These are what comes to my mind, but I'm sure there are other ways.

Okay so heres my story for my short time on reddit:

>Go to edm music production sub reddit
>Guy posts thread saying hey I need help with mixing
>I ask him if I could hear one of his tracks so that I can give him some tips
>he posts his track and I give him a super long explanation on how he can mix better with all kinds of tips
>moderator deletes everything: "Don't post your music if its not in the daily feedback thread"

And then I never went back

Yeah, that's very typical.

you made him break the rules dude

Lol nice virus site bro.

the mod is right, fuck that gay ass cuckboy for posting shit where it doesn't belong. it's like if sb posted a sc link here... just fuck off

i stopped going to many music related rebbits because there were constantly spammed by faggots going like

>Released my first single!!!! check it out [link]
bitch i don't give a FUCK and the sub is not for self promotion. but faggots in the comments are always like 'whoaa dudeeeee so cooooooooooool addedd you on spotify'. if there's no link in the OP then somebody says ''yo dudeee pls post a link yeyeye'' and it's spam again

or retarded shit like we have here
>bros... i'm so depressed... i started making music 2 hours ago and it sucks.... feel like dying

and it's different versions of these posts all day. fuck that gay site, enforce the rules you set

who the fuck do you think you are you worthless piece of shit, acting all important on fucking Yea Forums like anyone actually gives a shit about you. your existence is pathetic, your music sucks and nobody will ever love you, appreciate you or respect you because there is nothing to respect, you're just a worthless dysfunctional shell of a human being. kill yourself.

>>>reddit

hey guys just curious how many anons actually take part in the contest so i made a strawpoll just to count the number of people taking part so far. of course anons who join us later can still answer this:

strawpoll.me/17762726

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Why do you come to /prod/ then lmao. That's literally EXACTLY what this place is

What does it even mean to remix?
I was thinking of using short sound clips and flipping this into a completely different piece but then there is the statement
>You can also not use any file and make a remake from scratch.
>Anything goes.
...so if anything goes, what is the point of working on the same song/piece?

And even though was just a bunch of angry insults, deep down you know that they are coincidentally true. You can act all high and mighty here, but when you lay down to sleep and start thinking about life my words will pop up in your head, and you will realize that user from /prod/ figured you out from one single post. I'd tell you I hope you cry yourself to sleep every night, but frankly I don't, because your life suck enough in its current state, so its okay.

shut up you stupid rulecuck

>your music sucks
your mom likes it though
>and nobody will ever love you,
youre mom loves me
>appreciate you
youre mom appraciates...
>or respect you
and respects...
>because there is nothing to respect,
...my dick
>you're just a worthless dysfunctional shell of a human being.
your mom doesnt think so

>kill yourself.
wtf rude

i go to sleep fairly easily... with your mom next to me. it even rhymes because it's so true

my mom is dead you fucking necrophile

also how does it feel to be an adult virgin

pretty bad, tho i wouldn't call myself an adult

kys

>Still doing 12TET ear-training

How cute

chord-book.com/ear_training/53_edo/53_edo_ear_trainer.php

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>i wouldn't call myself an adult
neither would anyone else lol

>What does it even mean to remix?
In this context it can be anything from an edit of some parts of the song (like even just adding a sub or replacing the drums), to a completely new one that only has some elements of the original.
Or anything in between.

>I was thinking of using short sound clips and flipping this into a completely different piece
Yes, remixes where it's a completely different piece are the best.

>...so if anything goes, what is the point of working on the same song/piece?
By "anything goes" I meant that the only requirement is that you remix that song.
The context of that phrase is about using the provided material, but that's just to make things easier. You can use anything you want, as long as the end result is a remix of the song.

Everyone has to do the same song because what's the point of everyone making their own?
It would make no sense.
At least this is a group activity in which we can all take part.
Everyone doing their own separate thing would be no different than the usual clyp posting.

>i go to sleep fairly easily
>with your mom next to me
>she wraps her arms around my shoulders
>and whispers 'baby, don't you leave'
>shivers down my spine
>i take her hand in mine
>intertwine
>fingers
>clandestine
>lovers
>your mother
>clandestine
>lover~~

it's anonymous tho

no, bruh, the rules are there for a reason. who wants 90% of posts to be 'check out my new track!!! also 5 tips on how to be more productive!! i'm giving out advice like it's candy although my music has 10 plays in total and it's from s mom

so you want to jerk off about which EQ is your favorite without actually posting your music so you don't have to prove you're not just bike shedding?

Thank you for the explanation. Makes sense.

But there's a difference between someone posting their track unsolicited and someone posting it after someone asked for it in the context of an explanation.
Deleting the whole thing AFTER the explanation was given is just retarded and counterproductive, because it's often necessary to show what you're doing to get a proper explanation.
Mods ignoring context and deleting any music posted outside the feedback thread is just retarded and lazy.

No problem user.
Are you partecipating?

This is currently on the homepage:
old.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/bacjo1/what_is_the_dumbest_post_youve_see_hit_the_front/?sort=top

Even redditors are sick of how bullshit of a website Reddit is.

you can post youré music in the feedback thread tho. but yeah, threads about plugins and uses for plugins or sharing resources and shit sound more useful than 420weedcuck420's first EP which took him one week to make and he's been producing for a month.

I don't know, I agree with parts of your posts and not with some others. I mean, the dude should be posting in the feedback thread... deleting a huge feedback post is lame too

nice!!!!

>I mean, the dude should be posting in the feedback thread...
If he had posted the track on his own asking for feedback, then definitely, but he only posted it after someone asked him to, in order to be able to help him.
There are so many cases where one asks for help understanding something that they're having trouble with in their music, and the only way to help them is to ask them to post their music so you can see what the problem is.
It's not the same as asking for feedback.

Wow this is really hard.

>you can post youré music in the feedback thread tho. but yeah, threads about plugins and uses for plugins or sharing resources and shit sound more useful than 420weedcuck420's first EP which took him one week to make and he's been producing for a month.

I agree with you to an extent. However you need context, and it's always nice to listen to 420weedcucks soundcloud for an extra confidence boost. I legitimately LOVE listening to redditors mixes it gives me more confidence in myself.

...you can change the scale degrees to chromatic, friend.

Do you play an instrument? If so how long have you been playing said instrument? Because if your music career started with making beats then i'm sorry, that's not a good way to start.

ahh I see now... guess the mods really were being overly autistic

lmao that's a good way to look at it desu

how to make this sound more professional instaud.io/3wvn

Oh wow, that made all the difference!
went from 1/10 to 9/10

Yeah, of course. I just downloaded the zip, gonna try to make something tonight.

Have to give a presentation about DAWs in an MIS class to a bunch of managerial information system's students. Does this feel elementary enough?

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Not really, I leaned some piano back in grade school and some guitar and theory 101 in college, none of which I really got good at or kept up with.
I'm trying to learn some keyboard and theory now that I've picked up this hobby but the going is slow.

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you need to add dub turbo

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You missed one in the 5th slide.

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I can't tell if you're a retard or sarcastic

too much text
text only slides lame and boring

Of course it's mostly going to be me talking over them off the top of my head, those are just for credit.

I'm a retard, sorry for not including images to help convey tone.

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tuba

nice

...what?

You had problems with the basic major chord, but managed to score 9/10 with chromatic? Did I understand that properly?

I couldn't get it right when it was asking me if the tone was a do, mi, or so, and let me choose between all the intervals, but I changed it to just simple intervals and I did gud.
Not really sure what I'm doing here.

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Posted this in the last thread but this is an updated version
instaud.io/3wwI
Think anything needs to be tweaked before I release?

Massively too quiet.

Oh, no problem then, my mistake. Sorry for being rude. Musical vocabulary is just a meme anyway, I'm currently on 77/100 and all I do is just convert the interval names to frets on the guitar, then I know what to do.

Keep going man. Cheers.

this one is easier
musictheory.net/exercises/ear-interval

checking it on the guitar is cheating

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And we're supposed to be the weird ones.

Pic related is on the home page rn.

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im already finished with my remix lol

>checking it on the guitar is cheating
I'm not checking it on guitar, I'm converting it inside my mind. It's just easier for me because I'm a guitarist.

i'm adding reverb on my kickdrum and you cant stop me /prod/

im a guitarist too but that doesnt mean i dont know what intervals are

that's okay just make sure you mono the lows

i'm actually making it very wide. i bet you cant take that

make sure you put plenty of low frequency phasing, chorus and flanger

even if i put it wont matter because it's just some ambience, not the main punch

Dae /drone/ here?
I've only done a few decent ones and i'm guessing there really isn't a "Standard" way of approaching it but how do go about "morphing" your track over time?

this thread is pretty cringe

they rarely aren't

were you here last thread

sounds unpleasant

wanna hear my track with kick reverb and stereo lows

just add a minute long reverb lmao

sure

I know what intervals are you fucking retard, I just said it's easier for me to visualize tones on the fretboard, then figure out what intervals I'm hearing. What the fuck are you even talking about.

fuck man i thought i got a serious >(You) :(

chill the fuck out dude, there's no need to splurg about something so stupid

what do you think of 128 bpm?
do you think a difference of 1 bpm to 127 or 129 makes a noticeable difference?
why wouldn't you choose it over those two bpm?

I just choose whatever I tap in usually.

128 is an even number so I'd choose it for regular beats and the other two for experimental stuff.

128 is divisible my 4 which makes everything line up more neatly

it's 2^7 so you can divide it in half 7 times, it's a great number

Imagine needing to ask this

>make drone song
>it's putting you to sleep
ahhhh perfect (:

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You chill the fuck out you fucking retard, you started this shit now be a fucking man and own it, you fucking pussy.

I am perfectly calm and not the guy you initially responded to lol

I knew guitarists had fragile egos, but jesus

Musician red flags:
>only instrument is Guitar (poor vocals don't count)
>producer who refuses to learn fundamentals

instaud.io/3wzH

>posts on /prod/

>only instrument is Guitar
problema?

はい hay

rate my raw guitar+amp tone instaud.io/3wsX

i absolutely hate my vocals. what do? is there a specific type of voice you need to do or is it just talking loud? do you need to enunciate a certain way and kind of theatrically or what? i mean vocals in general. i could start rapping and i would not like the way it sounds.

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is that the guy who fucked 1000 shemales?

its usually yelling in pitch, but there are concerns about how you project the voice.

yes thats christian x

yeah but does rap (90s shit) and punk music type stuff is it actually in pitch even though theyre just shouting instead of hitting certain notes?

shit is so confusing to me. should you just try to sing but instead yell? this has been holding me up for like a year

>i absolutely hate my vocals. what do?
Start recording some songs. Experiment.

I also hated my vocals for nearly a decade, kept away from the microphone, wouldn't even sing backing vocals in bands. Then I forced myself to do it just to spite myself and I found a couple things that sound good.

Remember that other people haven't been listening to your voice their whole lives, I'm sure that even Peep hated his own voice.

why are youtube tutorials so bad

youtube.com/watch?v=bepXAsbkgVI

Depends on what kind of singing you want to do, just let air out to a pitch, decide how loud you want it

sick beat tho

punk is on pitch, rap usually is talking, you can notice when they follow a melody

you get what you pay for

Ratings on my drum sound? I think I'm doing well with this track.
instaud.io/3wzH

What sets the path between making my bedroom tracks and making radio-worthy tracks? Is it non-arbitrary?

>radio-worthy

Have you HEARD the trash on the radio? jfc

i know youre meming but it's all well produced even if the songs are shite

idk tell me when you find out

someone said anything because some shit mixes play on the radio

how do I even make bedroom tracks

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>sets the path
Like how do you do it?
Top tier everything, that's not any sort of mystery

grab a sm57 copy and a xlr to 3.5mm cable and open FL studio

more like where is the line between bedroom shit and radio worthy shit

>grab a sm57 copy and a xlr to 3.5mm cable
what

super mario '57 dude

Those xlr to 3.5 sounds are cancer tier, not even bedroom. Bedroom is still Low end interface and cheapish condensers/dynamics- it's what the vast majority of amateurs use

To answer your question, imo, the best mixed diy (aesthetic) hip-hop would be considered the lowest acceptable level.... like imo, even though xxx had resources going into ? And some earlier, it's still fairly rough sounding... whereas say, brockhampton appear to have really just been doing it themselves with mid range stuff and it sounds considerably polished, (though obviously a lot of the sound is in he box, which helps) which is where I think people should aim who actually want to sound good

>Those xlr to 3.5 sounds are cancer tier, not even bedroom
not much is different besides the -50db noise floor, and it's a decent start for someone on a budget that wants to first start trying to produce.

>Bedroom is still Low end interface and cheapish condensers/dynamics- it's what the vast majority of amateurs use
is it possible to make a radio worthy track with that kind of gear? i have like a uphoria 404hd, two samson c02 ldc, a mxl ldc of the same price and a beta58 copy.

are you sammy

no. why

not him but saying xlr to 3.5 is even worth bothering with is a fucking joke, nobody who actually wants to make music should cuck themselves like that right out of the gate

bro no offense but if you're asking if it's possible you're not in any position to be asking this question. You'll *know* when gear is holding you back, if it's not, then having better gear might help you but the difference will be insignificant, and it won't make you "radio worthy"

sammy has brazilian brand microphones

I'm not memeing. I'm saying why would someone set the standard of "would I hear this on the radio" to judge how good their music is.

i made this with a us$13 sm57 copy and a xlr to 3.5 cable. it's not too bad for a real beginner. youtube.com/watch?v=v4ZFyEbRnlQ
then i got tired of the noise floor and bought an interface.
>You'll *know* when gear is holding you back

>buying gear to make me radio worthy
thats not what i meant, fucker

why so many downvotes

because that's his goal? to get his music on the media and to be able to produce for people that want their music on the media? fuck

>then i got tired of the noise floor and bought an interface.
shut the fuck up sammy i had to nag you for fucking months to convince you to get one because you didn't know what the fuck you were talking about, and you still don't

thanks for letting me know it was you, i'll ignore this now

imageboard people

i didnt have a job so i couldnt buy an interface, thats why it took years. i got the job by april/18 and got the interface in a couple months. i knew my noise floor, i was just tolerant to it. also i know the onboard soundcard doesnt produce proper sublows and that caused me to leave the kick too loud on that song.

>i didnt have a job so i couldnt buy an interface
and now you won't buy monitors
you were literally calling people retards and asking how interfaces were any different. if anybody gave enough of a shit they could go look it up in the archive lmao

he is disliked by everybody

the quality of this channel is absolutely not disapointing
youtu.be/rB5gBoqK0Rk

talent

gimme a break, i already upgraded from k414p to k240 mkii

also not true, real life people all like me

thanks, i love you

i don't give a fuck and i'm not going to try to convince you

if people like you then why are you so fucking obnoxious online?

still i had to defend myself

i enjoy it, its funny

why would you enjoy making the thread worse, that's just stupid and mean

please subscribe, will u

have you seen how shit this thread is? posts after posts of shitposting and pointless ofensive arguments.

Soz, I'm busy remixing Dreams.
Someone should make a /prod/ bingo chart though.

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>singing doesn't count
the voice is an instrument though

LFOs and wavetables

>tfw can't even play the happy birthday song by ear

what did i do in my past life to deserve being this retarded?

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instaud.io/3wCb

this isnt worth finishing right
I got bored halfway through and started falling asleep

Someone please critique my song :) i tried to use instaudio but its too big. im trying to go for a lofi rock kind of sound.
vocaroo.com/i/s0Away9WfZ2m

>guess who
Why do you do that shit with the snare man, like have you ever heard that in a song before??? That's way overplayed

This is violent femmes lol
Work on your timing, its most obvious at the very beginning on the keys
.... sounds like shit honestly, a little bit toooo lo-fi. Pitchy singing. Still a fun song though :p

Mostly skill but any given radio single had a shitload of cash, writers and producers behind it. If you’re gonna do a proper release at least have it professionally mastered

some habstrakt inspired bass house i made for you guys. i hope you like this
clyp.it/wlzy5qrg

>professionally mastered
Stop this fucking meme
Mastering is not black magic, and mastering "services"are taking advantage of this myth and people's insecurity

what shit

It can be good when you're looking for specific information. But yeah, the community is terrible and the way the site works favors the hivemind mentality, you get downvoted to oblivion if you say something slightly against the grain.

ok i'm done with my shitty remix. having to quantize the rhythm section really took it out of me so i just drenched everything in reverb and called it a day.

clyp.it/2ftwxgda

nice but you should post it again on sunday i guess so we can choose the winner

what do i need in order to be able to record both DI and the real amp? the famous DI box?

Yeah, the vocals are a pain in the ass.
They don't even have the same timing as the original song and I'm pretty sure it's the exact same recording.

I think I'll just let Ableton do it automatically and just finetune things by ear.

Are there any acoustic guitar libraries that let you play custom chords with custom rhythms?
Acoustic Revolutions 3's chords sound great, but it only has like 40 rhythms and it won't let you edit them, which is fucking retarded.

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Something like this?
youtube.com/watch?v=AoDPaC6JmfE

That'll do, I guess.

from reading the posts ITT you can tell these remixes are going to be high quality

Shut up faggot. do your own remix if youre so smart

>implying i would put in time to gain /prod/ clout

yeah maybe like 3 years ago

>to gain /prod/ clout
We're all posting them anonymously. No clout anywhere.
This is just for the fun and potential learning experience.

>were all posting them anonymously

that meme died long ago and you know it

everyone knows everyone by name in this general now and it's fucking gay as hell

What's my name?

i don't consider myself a part of this general anymore

So you just come here to shitpost and be the token asshole guy for the thread?

you need two to play at that game retard

Your name is anonymous! Ha that was easy!

What?

Huh? Huh?

yeah that's what I thought faggot

Cool.

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Hey bros tony ferguston here
How do I make beats?

hi tony

you probably suck at producing tho lol

Fuck off cotton candy

beg to differ my guy

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yeah post your lame soundcloud bro

oh man tempting bait my friend

why would i care about a screenshot of someones plays? post your fucking SC you pussy if youre gonna be a negative cunt itt

holy shit i really worked up the casuals into a frenzy

>holy shit i really worked up the marks into a shoot*
Sorry brother.

You're not allowed to (You) me unless you have over 1 mil plays on soundcloud

>casuals begging me to post my soundcloud in the /prod/ thread

im a better producer than you

sure bud

>just over a million plays
Unk is that you?

casuals out in full force i see

Can I get some feedback on ?

>imagine being such a lame cunt that you have nothing better to do than to shit on hobby producers having fun doing their remix contest and being so insecure that you post a screenshot of you plays but dont have the balls to show your shitty soundcloud

lmao absolutely seething

>seething
the new Yea Forums buzzword when youre a brainlet running out of arguments you never had in the first place
why am i even on this shithole of a brainlet-ridden website anymore

>he thinks we're having an argument

that's pretty cute bud

Sounds pretty muffled to me, like a low-bit-rate mp3 or a lpf on the master.

The single-note synth that comes in at 0:22 is too low.
Make space for it by subtracting its fundamental from the other sounds.

The snares are too staccato for my taste. Either make them longer or drown them in reverb or something.
Dada Life has a plugin for this that makes it easy.

Those two bars between the buildup and the drop dissipate all the tension that the buildup has accumulated because it sounds like the end of the song.
If you want the "pausing" breakdown effect before the drop it should make the listener feel like they're holding their breath and bracing for impact to maximize the tension.
This makes me feel like I'm exhaling, which is the opposite of what you should do.
I think it's largely because of that hit that happens right when the buildup ends.

The drop is too similar to what comes before. I'd at least make some variations of the sounds you used, because using exactly the same ones is bad.
Also the verse has more energy than the drop, which doesn't make much sense unless you're pecifically going for the minimalistic athmospheric kind of drop, which this one isn't.

>Thinks that to something be considered music, it must take some skill to be created

Poor English aside, if that's plebeian then I'm fucking Hierocles.

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the argument is that you're a waste of air to breathe and space and should fuck off. why are you even lurking here?

>why are you even lurking here

at this very moment? for the sweet butthurt (You)s evidently

We should just start ignoring him
No insults, no trying to reason with him.
Just ignore him.
There's no point in wasting time and posts on him, as he's blatantly shitposting and flaming.

>drowning this stupid remix contest in shitposting

objective achieved

i dont get pathetic people like you. how is this fun to you? go produce more shitty music for your 1 million fans instead of trolling here. theyre waiting, they need your music mate. dont leave them hanging.

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the remix contest goes over one week retard. nobody cares about your handful of brainlet shitposts

>he can't even take it

i'll be here all week

you can get your tickets now

yeah i promise i'll get right on that bud but you have to promise you won't leave your 4 prod fanboys hanging either okay?

Anyone else look at Mike Shipley's old posts on gearslutz and learn a ton about mixing/recording/producing?

just hide and ignore his posts, he just wants a rise out of you, he just wants attention.

the sweet (You)s fuel my life force

yeah i reported him now

>he doesn't know

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H-how much?

I like you friend, a real altmensch.

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>And then I told him major and natural minor are the only two valid key classifications
>30 key signatures. Imagine that

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HA, FUCK MUSICAL NOTATION

literally who dude

Roll

How do some producers create the effect of the music coming from elsewhere if you're listening on headphones at a low volume? This always kind of freaks me out when it happens.

You could talk about the proto daws. The fairlight CMI, Trackers in DOS, etc. How they evolved

Im sick and tired of producing, /prod/. I cant mix for shit and it has annihilated the last little shatter of love and ambition I have had for producing. I've spent so many hours on making music, but I have reached a point where i dont progress any further, and Im stuck for months if not years.

Lets say I want to make a great sounding kick and 808, so I go to youtube and 99% of the tutorials are made by bullshit amateurs with the most corny ass weak ass beats I have heard, and they just do it for likes subscribers clout etc.

And I dont wanna sound arrogant because i suck myself, but making shit clickbait tutorials just for CLOUT (Clout = Reach = $$) is like spreading loads of false information. I guess this only works because of all these new producers who think people like busyworksbeats are producing gods since they got like 500k subs.

Where can I actually learn to mix this stuff? Please, for the love of god, help a /prod/ucer bro out, before i commit reverse birth. Im sick and tired of this shit. I will even pay for online courses or whatever there is out there as long as

do you have decent monitors? Mixing on shit monitors or headphones is like working with your hands tied behind your back.

I am assuming you already have a good conceptual handle on mixing? Its just the implementation that is fucking you up?

No but I do look at bob olhsson's (motown engineer) posts a lot. Lots of cool technique in there. Have you checked out the Recording engineer producer mag? Kinda cool to look at how they did things in the 70s.

this is really vague

where is elsewhere?
coming from heaven?
underground?

or just kind of like "over there"?

Mixing is a meme

For anyone interested:

americanradiohistory.com/Recording_Engineer_Producer.htm

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What type of music should I make?

fire fl studio trap beats
also don't forget to set up a twitter and instagram first, this is the most important thing when becoming a producer

you're producing top down

it seems you have an idea in your head you want to materialize and having imagination is good but a lot of the time it's not gonna come out how you imagined it but you just gotta do what sounds good to you and make the best of it

take a break for a couple days or even a couple weeks

coming back to music you've been frustrated with always makes you realize the things you were upset about aren't as noticeable as you think they are

also just do things to improve your outlook on life ik it's a meme but a negative outlook will kill your production for real

whether it's doing some meme meditation to clear your head or just keeping your vices close to have peace of mind it's gonna make for a better time producing

as far as resources for mixing your best bet is to find a song you like in the genre you're making and try to imitate the levels in the mix

image is everything

what are monitors?

The thing you're looking at numb nuts.
If you don't have ultra mega HD resolution screen you'll never be able to read a spectrum properly to apply surgical EQ.

>what are monitors

So.. is this the state of /prod/ these days?

This is all I've ever known.
Was it really any better in the long ago?

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what are monitors?

It was never good, but after a certain event known as the /prod/ocaust that happened during this past summer (a giant wave of shitposting that lasted several days) most of the ok posters stopped coming, and only the beginners and the cunts remained.
It's been slowly recovering, but it's not at pre-/prod/ocaust levels yet (which were still pretty low).

It's short for "monitoring speakers", and are a particular type of speakers that are meant to accurately reproduce the sound that they're supposed to play.

what are monitors?

thanks mate
also why the hostility towards begine

beginners? is this fucking grandpa city? lol. quit whining and help a noob out you fucking boomers

Because these are very basic questons that people normally learn on day 1 by following a normal guide or tutorial.
Asking to be spoonfed this sort of information means that you haven't even tried to learn things on your own.

Uhm no? why would I learn on day 1 dicking around in fucking pirated fl studio (which i don't use btw) to buy studio monitors for my perfect mixing? Thats literally the last step in producing

what guide or tutorial would you recommend?

I never had monitors and still learned what they were on day one.
You don't need to go and find out what they are specifically, because it's a piece of information that is in every beginner guide and it's impossible to miss.
The only way to not know what monitors are is to have never watched a beginner video or read a beginner guide.

If you're serious, this book is by far the best and fastest way to learn the basics of all the skills that you need for production:
www35.zippyshare.com/v/LGDcXa9m/file.html
Every producer should read this.

If you're not that serious, the /r/edmproduction wiki should have some valid information.

Of course there's also the pastebin in the OP.

Sorry, I haven't read beginner stuff in several years, so I don't have much off the top of my head.

What everyone fails to realize is that /prod/ needs to die so glorious /comp/ can finally reign supreme.

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Fuck off Hill, not everyone wants to be a composer.

what should i buy next guys, a sm57 or a beta57

Be honest, how badly do you want this in /comp/?

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that's what i tried but ableton creates warp markers for every little transient so letting it do it for you is a recipe for disaster, especially if the rhythm is drifting off tempo

look into binaural recordings and HRTFs. it's basically sound recorded from the inside of an ear, exactly the way we hear it in real life, resulting in a convincing "3D" effect, but never perfect since everyone has different shaped ears and heads.

Yeah, but at least when you have the warp markers already in place it's easier to fix things by removing the useless ones as you go and moving/stretching the few important ones into place.
Sure it's not as fast as with a modern perfectly timed song, but it's the fastest option that I know of.

I haven't done it to this one yet, but it's usually how I do it with weirdly timed vocals and other random audios like dialogues or solos.

That's the problem tho. People don't take theory seriously because they think getting the right kick, snare etc is going to be more than polishing a turd, even if the composition is all but entirely absent.

Yeah, but one thing is caring about composition in production, and another is caring about it exclusively.
If you want to be a producer it's important that you learn both the composition AND the production, because caring about only one of them will result in shit music.

yeah you can usually get away with just warping the start of every bar which retains the natural groove. vocals are tricky though. a good way to speed up the process if there are no markers already is to activate one at the beginning and one at the end of the sample, that way you don't have to double click to activate the ones in the middle. saves you a tiny bit of time but it all adds up

Yeah, or you can right-click the clip, choose "quantize settings" and play with the values to find something close enough to your need, then finetune from there.
Some times with out of time ones you need a preliminary warp (with just 4 or 5 markers) just so things aren't too far from where you need them to be, but it usually works well enough.

I use sony mdr-75 for monitoring, i recently got Yamaha HR8s too but i rarely use them because my room isnt setup yet

This is the kind of advice I came here for.
I really need to clear my mind

The general rule is that to make things go left/right you need to use panning, to make them go up/down you need to use frequency content (usually a combination of filtering/equing and transposing so that things that have high-frequency content will sound like they're above, and those with low-frequency content will sound like they're below you), and to make things go farther away you need to use volume and reverb (the wetter the farther away it goes).

Mix these techniques and you'll be able to roughly move sounds around

The post thst started it all...
I still have flashbacks.

Meditation isn't a meme.
It's been proven both by millenary tradition and modern science to be very effective.

NEW THREAD:

Well yeah mindfulness has been supported as effective for certain things by modern science but I don't think MIT is going to have a class about raising your kundalini anytime soon my dude

So if MIT doesn't has a class on it it can't be helpful?
Meditation (either mindfulness or concentration) is basically gym for the mind and everyone should do it regardless.
Physial exercise, proper sleep, a good diet, and a ton of other things are known to be helpful both for your cognitive functions and for your life in general, but you can't expect colleges/universities to teach them to their students.

>raising your kundalini
I'm not talking about the spiritual bullshit. I'm talking about meditation as a form of exercise for the brain.

it disgusts me that such a wholesome practice with myriads of physical and mental health benefits has so much historical baggage. i can't stand new-age chopra-tier hippie bullshit like energy chakras and kundalini either. honest, rigorous meditation is a window into the deepest parts of one's psyche. there's nothing magical about it.

you guys both meditate daily or what

okay high school sam harris fanboy thanks but you're obviously not too far along

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wow sounds like you've got it about figured out huh

I admit I don't do it daily, but I do it at least 2/3 times per week.
Any meditation is better than no meditation.

I don't know who Sam Harris is.

from this definition there's no difference between meditating and playing chess

>he doesn't understand how chakras, posture and breathing relate

don't worry you'll get there some day

>I'm talking about deadlifts as a form of exercise for the legs.
>from this definition there's no difference between deadlifts and squats

pitiful really

I've reached DMT like mental states listening to the JRE podcast while kundalini breathing AMA

What's that sound effect they use in dance tracks right before the bass hits that kind of sounds like a reversed cymbal?

you need to do it in an isolation tank or you didn't have the real joe rogan experience

automating the cutoff of filtered white noise or literally a reverse cymbal

This thread will die soon.
The new one is already up

Thanks

>chakras
that's exactly the problem. it's usually good, practical advice packaged in wispy vague magical bullshit. we practice good posture because it's biomechanically efficient for sitting still for long periods of time. we use breathing techniques because it controls the rate of oxygen flow to the brain. it doesn't sound as exciting and magical when you put it this way but it makes a hell of a lot more sense, and it gives you real, rational insight into your mind/body relationship

like the user said, it's usually bandpassed white noise or a cymbal, or a combination of both+reverb. any textured, non-tonal sound will do tho. you can get creative with it. use wind, rain, cars passing on tarmac, record yourself saying "shhhhhhhhhh". whatever. it's the processing on top that matters

>chakras
Nigga it's all about nature energy now for that sage mode senpai

you're so confidently off the mark it's brutal man