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>pitzy
>Everyone is whining about people who didn't get into IZ*ONE
>no one mentions her
why
loona is stacked
BEULPING
would you dudubu
Gathering Doyeon pics for my folder, share your goods
huuul
don't look at nako no matter what you do
based
watch this goober get pwned for the next 3-5 minutes straight for the second time tonight lmao
baby it just cums automatic
the choreography is fucked up because of her height shit
Jungkook can pipe Sana with that curly hair I'll allow it they would look good together
some serious dsl
>forced to play Playing With Fire to hype up the crowd because all gfriend songs are boring as hell
who's surprised?
>goober
sunny is stacked
his face hair is so soft and fine
it looks so good
sana is bang chan property only
she looks like fergie
attending an event just to bully a group
this is just sad but then i remember than they are blackpink fans
>time for the moonlight
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>reddit
I would link the original oricon link but its all moonrunes and its already in the thread.
that was not mentioned in the article
you're seanigger aren't you
bless you user
haseullie....
oh and what is this?
Damn, stray kids had something similar happen in a spotify Indonesia event where poor organization led to overcrowding, and the overexcited crowd making fans at the front faint
Seems like one of the more barbarian SEA countries
I'm not him, and i'm not trying to stir this shitty discussion all over again but just remember that the showcase tickets were raffled off via random preorders of Type A/B, so what was stopping AKS from just forcing 70% females to win the raffle to get into the TDCH event
She's a granny who's even older than Eunbi without the milk.
Now this is someone who definitely could've gotten into IZ*ONE if it wasn't for her fatal fuckup.
>haseulkkura
Old and busted. We accept Eunbi cause she is a milk truck. We don't need a useless 24 year old.
No one believes you bang chan erper
Because everyone is expecting her to be in some weird Stone-Pledis group
You did buy their album and help contribute to them beating Twice right?
He's so cute
>expecting anything good from pledis
rookie mistake
why help them since twice in 2 week will snap their record out of existence?
It's a partially true statement because she does get lines. Too bad she still sucks as an idol. Good stage presence but her vocals and dancing are lackluster.
your sales didn't count
Mwave doesn't count sales until they ship them out
sorry but there is no proof of twice/marvel
so question: why does this shitposting affect our thread in any way
So is there any SEA country worse than indonesia? I start to see why koreans look down on them so much
>Too bad she still sucks as an idol
sakura's one of the top idols in the world and is responsible for probably over half of izone's fans
I do atleast once a week
triggering and redpilled
>being this deluded
Shut the fuck up SEAnigger
Stop dragging Twice into this shit.
>tfw indonesian
i dont think so, since this is the only country populated with muslim niggers
Horse looks good
Mwave sales counts as pre-orders
Ew bring back miru instead of this skeleton
If it was going to be a Pledis only group I'd agree unless they just say fuck it and blow up Pristin and make a group out of V + Kirinz. If Pinky wants to stay in China then just replace her with Xiyeon. Yes downgrade but 7 makes for better choreo than 6. Everglow are doing okay with 6 but it's guaranteed Yena will join them in like 18 months.
since you have extensive dossiers redpill me on ybknako
there is but anyway
>all except minho can sing very well
>all of them can dance very well
>no visual hole
was shinee the most talented boygroup?
I get why ybk_nako is cancer but why is anyone who posts IZ*ONE getting spammed at here
I thought IZ*ONE was supposed to be posted on Yea Forums and not /akb/ and isn't that what is being done here?
I want to say 2AM is more talented but you are right about the visual hole part.
Will do
The Buddhist parts of SEA seem a lot more chill. It's too bad Buddhists dont really proselytize that much these days and just get beheaded and their relics smashed to pieces if they try it with muslims and their chimpouts
Being a stan attractor is fine for being a Jpop idol since the wotas just want girl next door types that they can buy handshake event tickets for. For Kpops it actually helps if you can sing and dance or at a minimum dance.
I should have said the ultimate boygroup
wasn't 2AM more of a ballad group? can they dance as well as shinee?
Holy shit Jimin a hahaha
This eyeshadow
looma looma looma
gossup gossup gossup
kard bomb bomb is better than blackpink new song desu
he looks plastic without actually being plastic
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I honestly think I did wrong dance is fucking kino
who is ybk_nako
kara mame deulmyeon is better than everything since 2008 desu
but they're not actually dancing
ybk_nako should go back posting pictures
Why would you worry about the Izone anti? He hates everything and when he's not hating on Izone he hates on other groups.
It's just the fillers
Are they still doing trop house?
gaybop
>i-if we buy a lot copies each one we can hide the fact that we are so few and no one gives a f*ck about our easy*ones r-right?
lol
Overdose...
it doesn't
lmao
It's party songs now for their south American tours
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just a little more user
yes, may they rest in peace.
they also have a pretty decent discog. (this coming from someone who HATES fucking lucifer and ring fucking ding dong, but i won't deny their impact.)
runner-up is btob. if btob didn't have changseob's face, it would be the best kpop group ever.
seolhyunari
choaya
minaring
jiminel
yunaria
hyejeong.linus
chanmi T.T
Why can't they do something at Hola Hola's quality or better? Kind of feel like Somin's being wasted in Kard desu. Plus J.seph and BM have to enlist in like 1-2 years from now.
gayest bopest
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reality > iztard's narratives
now that it's daytime in korea, i'll try again...
anyone knows an in club on jeju island?
All of the big groups have people bulk buying to support them.
>kard song is doing better than dia, pentagon, and block b bastardz on melon top 1000
omo where else does he make that face
It's not like April's doing so hot either
Even after enlistment the girls could probably have a couple comebacks ft. other rappers
ybk_nako is a dumbass faggot fuck off already u attention whoring dicklet
No wonder the empty seats even on free presentations
Lucifer is gaypop goat
Block b no one cares about but that's gotta sting for dia/pentagin
i was pleasantly surprised that the bastarz ep wasn't shit. wasn't surprised that the pentagon release is fun and is flopping.
Maybe I sort of expect them to disband and Somin to try to do a Heize type routine. Jiwoo seems fucked though.
undeniable truth
lucifer to me is the kind of song that i imagine being tortured with by kidnappers to confess sins i never committed.
shinee made it look fucking cool, though. those dudes are amazing performers.
DSP sends their idols to the worst Dr. Kims desu
Blinks mustve been foaming at the mouth whilst streaming Kill This Love
loona and blackpink have the worst fan vol 65465465464645
That pic was a guest appearance at a baseball game, literally before they even debuted.
Their free guerilla concert filled out with 2k+ people with just 6 hours notice.
MBK should've spent that money that they wasted on fighting T-ara in court on promoting DIA better. They could've just said they support T-ara's future endeavors and then collected royalties when they do concerts, etc.
Cube fucked over Pentagon by losing their shit over E'dawn. Shine was their breakthrough hit and then all of that momentum is gone.
Are you sure they are not falseflaggers?
says the guy who browses reddit
imagining my Asuka beating Jungkook's Jack in Tekken 7 meaning i get to pummel his tight ass with my 7-incher for the next two hours before our next match in which he will inevitably lose again
he blocked the handles so you wouldn't ask questions
why is this literally the only thread on mu that gets replies?
>Failing so much that their fans go full "compulsive liar mode" each time it get posted
Best timeline
>look mom i learned how to press a button
>now im gonna show him
I feel like Ring Ding Dong is their only hit that is getting super dated. Maybe Everbody as well since it's really tied to a specific era. Sherlock, View and Lucifer are all still great though
my favourite ever glow
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blackpink will head to usa afte INK perfomance
get your popcorn ready guys shitty perfomances are incoming
I dont get cube's business style. Clc would be finito by now in any other company for being a money black hole. Pentagon might be squeaking by on japan, but are they dedicated to floating 3 unprofitable groups (including ballad girls) while debuting a new boy group?
the future is gook
what does it mean to "stan" a group?
Lucifer is probably the catchiest gaypop song I know
imagine my yoshimitsu beating your asuka
You devote your life to watching, buying and consuming everything
Cuz there is a particularly robust selection of bullshit to sperg about with kpop
Everglow really don't have a weak member. Mia and EU aren't as pretty as the other 4 but they have other strengths.
being a dedicated and obsessed fan
she is not that beauty you know
Because of plackbink
kys
It's basically waifuwars.
i love myself
My boy Jo Woochan doesn't deserve to be stuck in this shitty company.
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you kill some bitch and put her in a truck or something and write gay letters to them and then they write a song about you being a faggot.
Juliette OH
Dream Girl
Married to the Music
such fun stuff, all of it.
Everybody looked and sounded dated already when it came out, the vocals are still good, though.
what happened to sakura in this pic? no troll pls
BtoB and Sungjae are keeping them afloat. Hui and Basedeon are top of the self-production meme heap though.
CLC finally seems to be pushing past their slow start. They aren't ever going to be a big seller but they are doing pretty good although most of their fan base seems to be international fans. Yeeun and Elkie also seem to be making money doing their solo things.
blah blah blah dalla dalla yeah
BTS and ITZY...
I'm guessing she was imitating the scene from IZ*ONE City since it's the exact same movements
imagining Jungkook asking me to watch him do 100 pushups but unbeknownst to him i'm quietly jacking off to him; i shoot my c*m all over his back but he doesn't know because he's wearing a thick Supreme sweater
this
also i don't get why people cannot into google. stan is not exclusive to kpg by any means.
Wiz*One did it for them. Im so proud of everyone in this fanbase who helped get the girls this achievement
yeah they seem pretty balanced. I'm tired of groups with dozen filler members
if you like a likeable group like rv twice or itzy it means to basicly support them
if you are a stan bp it means you support a fake group that their only achievement is to brag about the poor man's streaming content creation youtube
just because WIZ*ONE did it for them doesn't mean you should do it for Yujin
damn she looked like she was legit dying
her mother was a drunk during pregnancy
She's supposed to imitate a drunk person from a k-drama
Yejoonk
He's taking it about as well as I expected.
Yeah now that I think about it the video and song for Everbody were already dated but the vocals and the dancing was still amazing.
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SHINee are like the only gaypop that actually seems to come back out the other side and become bropop.
no wonder her autism
Shinee are unbelievably homo, but they are too good to ignore so everyone accepts them
deal with it OH
tell me why you roll your eyes
At least clc is intact as a group. Pentagon has the added baggage of becoming a 'scarred' group a few years after debut
yejoonk
>corbin blue
sorry i only know cordon blue
I don't know why smaller agencies think they can do 9+ member groups. SM barely were able to do it with SNSD and it took them like 7 iterations to actually figure out the right composition.
I know that there are a ton of Once here but even Twice struggles with having filler members. Why would any group debut with 10-13 members? Line distribution almost always sucks. Even with the Chinity gone WJSN struggles with line distribution.
Damn. They're really a one-hit-wonder aren't they? Shine was a legit 10/10.
Their vocals are pretty shit desu
comfy
yeah, and the only reason btob haven't jumped ship is that they still follow beast/highlight, and saw how fucking hard it is to run a business.
i think the wooseok x guanlin release brought in a tiny bit of pocket money at least.
They also have Onew and especially Minho who sort of counterbalance Key, Jonghyun and Taemin.
7 is definitely the happy medium between having variety but also having no filler members.
I feel sorry for members of 10+ member groups, when their peers in smaller group with the same success are literally earning twice as much
most of kpg don't know that white people actually did kpop fr one time
If they were stably established as a profitable group they could have weathered it
But for the timing it's like a kid getting kicked off the top of the jungle gym the second he grabbed the top rung
depends how you define one-hit-wonder.
if you mean that they will have no other profitable hit, then probably you are right (although naughty boy did okay).
they have a fucking good discography, though, so i think they can still be proud when talking about their idol past to their children.
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yes people do
If Cube were serious about saving Pentagon they'd add Kuanlin in as the new E'dawn stan attractor member. It's not like Cube have been shy about adding new members to other groups to help save them.
Elkie and Bean probably helped save CLC even though both probably would've benefited from waiting to debut in Gidle instead.
post 101 groups are the worst iteration of that trend, but it seems like they're moving in the opposite direction now after they all failed.
Vote for your whitey frenchie boi on Produce 101.
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no Chad Future?
Keeping a group alive and in shape plus all the mv/comeback costs with all the staff involved is a fuckton of money, I dont think you really grasp how narrow the profit margins can be even when a group can finally enter in the black
>western pop is shit
>groups getting attention in the west are shit
coincidence?
Yeah WJSN have somehow survived the great post IOI collapse but even then it's clear that there are like 5 Starship girls that are actually relevant out of the group (Bona, Luda, Eunseo, Seola maybe EXY or Highnotes). Groups like Cherry Bullet don't even have that many. Pristin of course suffers from Pledis being shit and having 5 filler members.
Gugudan has no useless members
>pop music is shit
what's new
koreans are so racist, they never accept when a non-korean tries to perform their music
No, we all know kpop lags a few years behind western pop. Ppl are just holding on the hope that the different niches expand enough that not ALL of it becomes bare bones boring top-40 radio
dude did you even want to respond to me? lol
shine brought them back what they spent on shine, deal with it. no, it didn't bring back all the rest of the money.
i worked enough in the business, so no need for any more lecturing.
pfft yeah okay
>Bean
based mr bean
CB literally debuted this year with 10 members even though it's clear that FNC are struggling as an agency with AOA being dead. I guess they didn't expect that FTIsland and CNBlue to get killed especially since NFlying and SF9 are still struggling to break through.
no it fucking isn't cunt it's like 10pm lmao
>i worked enough in the business
My uncle works at nintendo
no just 99.9% of western pop and western-popular kpop
you are right they all contribute into being a useless group
i would assume they learned from the clc mistake. guanlin seems to be amazing at variety, i hope they get him some suitable show, and let him live a chill life.
>we all know kpop lags a few years behind western pop
in 2006.
>implying cube will let go the most talented singers of the 3rd wave of kpop.
its the only thread on mu that doesnt talk about music
any seabro in
>nflying finally get a hit but then the scandals
Wow another group smacked down into the water as soon as they got their head above
lol
read upthread
prime time for browsing the web, whatever.
so do you know jeju?
Just listened to the whole red velvet discog, my first time listening to any kpop. Any others you recommend?
no fuck off
Were pentagon having some really big tour stops or gigs with shine? I dont keep track of them
blackpink is better
Word. We have transcended music.
what happened? did they win something?
Wonder Girls - Reboot
Day6 and the rose end up being the top idol bands because everyone else is fucking dead
This but twice.
Ehh, CLC's struggles were primarily related to Cube basically going from being nearly joining the big 3 to being incredibly in the red in like 2 years.
4minute dying and Beast leaving all happening within the period around when CLC debuted fucked them over so fucking bad. If they could've followed up on Pepe they probably would've found success earlier.
Cube refusing to keep them with a consistent concept also hurt them. The concept of switching between all the concepts is theoretically cool but Koreans will never buy into it. They barely accept RV switching back and forth between Red and Velvet releases and that's with SM backing them.
I liked Free'SM but following up Hobgoblin with that was dumb and almost killed them.
twice lowered the bar for kpop
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when did seventeen get good again
>implying their contracts had no end
jfc
that's cool.
they were never good.
Yeah I think Nflying might get screwed over just because FTIsland and CNBlue got rocked by the Seungri mess. Hongki is loved enough that maybe he can save FTIsland but CNBlue seem like they are donezo and that might harm Nflying.
for some reason they've been hiding their good songs as bsides and making the shitty songs singles
[KPKF] How much does it cost for Cosmic Girls(WJSN) to promote?
For the 12 members, they have 4 managers. They need at least 3 stylists, 3 hair designers, and 3 makeup artists. This is the minimum staff and they have more staffs when needed.
The cost of clothes, accessories, and shoes for one broadcast appearance per member is $700~800. Since there are 12 members, the styling cost for a promotion is $8,400~9,600. One meal is around $12, which is $300 in total. In other words, if they have a music show promotion, the cost is over $10,000. They spend at least 4 hours on hair and makeup alone.
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Pann: Idol group whose promotion cost is $10,000 a day
1. [+143, -2] So this must be why they're still not getting paid despite being around for a long time. It's the company's fault for putting that many members without a thought.
2. [+119, -3] Why did the company debut so many members in the first place? The members must feel so pressured for the company. Dayoung is also a member of WJSN, right? They said they have around 30 people total and that they want to work hard... Seventeen had so many staffs on Omniscient Interfering View, too. I was surprised.
3. [+88, -0] They must have a lot of debt... Even if they get paid, they'll have to divide it with so many people so there won't be much. How sad.
4. [+42, -0] They're funded by Yue Hua. Yue Hua is as big as SM in Korea...
5. [+41, -1] Then Seventeen and NCT... Seventeen members ate so much on Omniscient Interfering View.
6. [+40, -1] If a girl group isn't bound to be popular like SNSD, the members shouldn't be more than 7. Realistically, if a boy group flops, they can still earn more than girl groups ã… ã… Boy groups with a lot of members get paid decently.
7. [+33, -0] Wow, their outfit quality is great, though... Is Starship loaded?
8. [+26, -0] This is why you should debut only core members instead of throwing a bunch. It's also hard for the members with less earnings.
I was thinking of g-idle, everglow, and the wanna one solo debuts but companies will probably never stop trying to make the next twice or snsd
big groups were a mistake, 5 members as the average and 7 members as the absolute most is ideal
loona - xx
>literally the gg of Korea
>very popular in Japan
Yeah. They must've aimed for the sea subhumans.
they were good during the teen age era and mansae still slaps
*Max&Match
this
nah, nine members is ideal
Twice and IOI proved that honestly you don't have to have remotely good music or particularly talented girls as long as you are a big enough company (CJ or JYP) to force your group into having success. Wanna One's success despite only having 1 good song seems to confirm this trend. Izone is mediocre as fuck although I like several of the girls but they are already challenging the established top 5 girl groups, potentially the same for Itzy.
i thought i would hate the new album when i heard getting closer, but good to me is the best song they’ve released in a while
the time approaches
>exo
>snsd
>twice
>stray kids
all the best groups have 9 members and it's the ideal number
nine muses were ideal
ok both
Arent svt pretty well off by now
>stray kids
>good group
lol
i just remembered how cute wonwoo is
>clusterfuck with a stupid two unit gimmick that has been dropping members for years
>3/4 visuals, 1/4 actual useful members
>lmao
>bts 2.0 aka bong chong and the bois
>exo
>9 members
they started to sell a visible amount of physicals. variety appearance fees.
the tours they did the year before.
jungkookie time soon
>stray kids
>in the same level of twice, exo and snsd.
post boy hyunjin
Jungkook is crying
I kind of want one of these 7 year anniversary mugs..
so many 10s
9 in fact
>86984226
and they lowered the bar because groups don't have to be good to be popular
i said its always jungkookie time
>Knetz don't know that Yuehua and Starship are rich as fuck.
Yuehua have Tencent backing them and Starship are owned by Kakao. They aren't being as flashy about shit as CJ is but all three are looking at pushing into the top 3 of kpop.
i feel like their tours have never left small venues in asia
it's only a matter of time
Produce is a bit different from big3 company brand power. Since the entire produce concept on paper is the public getting to form the group and share the entire narrative with them. The artificial scarcity imposed by the short contracts also gets fans more riled up from the very start.
how about jungkook time now
dirty towelheads don't deserve my precious sticc waifu
good.
this kid always cries it is not good for my heart
youre right of course
So much bait in this post. Congratz Bang Chan shitter.
are those dudes?
Then where was this alleged Shine profit coming from? Definitely not the album sales.
I assumed shine was simply their first main ticket to becoming profitable later (until the scandals)
lol
>Reddit is so pressed they locked the IZ*ONE thread about them surpassing TWICE
Lmao
there's another other viral boyband right now other than nflying. their songs has been rising up on melon recently. it's currently #15 on melon and the other song nearly break top 100.
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oh no why is he crying
>profit
the guy you were talking to is retarded, shine barely did anything for them but get them some exposure and make them chart for the very first time
me
>86984243
You're just going to gift him all the free yous in the world?
Produce is just CJ proving that the concept will work. Each produce moving forward will have longer exclusive contract Broduce 2 is already 5 year contracts and they next girl one will probably have 7 year contracts like Idol School did. If they could've gotten Aki P to commit to 5 years for Izone PD48 probably would've had long contracts as well.
Yeah maybe Starship and Woollim would've kept their aces out of PD48 but even then I kind of doubt it.
link me, can't see it
mr perfect posture
This but me
XX only has one good song
no way, that's crazy and the jailbait would expire by then and the 20 year olds would be grannies
Well its lucky for them since theres hardly any competition left standing
And yet Chen sales are allowed?
Why is r/kpop so salty about Izone and BP most threads? Yeah it's like 50% ARMY and Once there but I've never understood why there is so much dislike of those 2 groups
thx for promotion, shitsucker kek
Isn't it basically confirmed that Sakura has autism? Post more content of her being a sperg.
They hate IZ*ONE cause IZ*ONE is what they think is everything "wrong" about Kpop. Visuals over talent. Underaged girls. The baggage AKB girls bring in. They are still salty about some of their favorites like Miyu not making in.
>unironic reddit and twitter fags
Yet BP viewshitting is allowed?
they're mad izone is assuming the mandate of heaven while twice continues to stagnate
...
kpg needs a purge
I don't see that much hate for izone. I'm a once and I really don't even know the name of the members of izone.
Produce groups dont have a lot of appeal to casual browsers I think. And BP is probably partly bc of yg and the lazy jennie thing.
>twice fans don't like visuals over talent
You're dumb as hell nigger.