I want to make interesting rock music that is more than just scene-chaser fluff and p4k fanboy imitations, and also not just 2deep4u inaccessible arty stuff but not something that is entirely appropriated for easy accessibility, I want it to be common language but still sort of challenging and vibe-killing.
What US city do I want to live in?
Also, for bigger cities, how the fuck am I supposed to afford living there on like $30,000 a year at best? Is this doable?
reply
>don't want to be a scene-chaser
>>What US city do I want to live in?
hmm
This
What's stopping you from magically starting this scene you think you're going to create in your own city?
I’m not trying to start a scene, I’m not at all capable of that. I’m trying to find a scene that is more attuned to my sensibilities. Richmond VA is full of cliquey meme hipster fucks, that’s to be expected anywhere but I’d prefer the kind of hipster fuck that is more independent minded rather than inserting themselves in the “music scene” just to be cool. Half of the “interesting” people here are the kinds of people that wear buttons on their denim jackets of bands they like.
Tampa/St. Pete
Also to add,
You know what I fucking mean, I’m saying “scene chaser” meaning people who appropriate themselves for their scene’s sake, the words can technically also refer to my looking for a better scene elsewhere but that’s not the same thing I am talking about.
I’m only ever as good as the people I’m surrounded by, I have to work off of other people in order to be productive in a creatively effective way, most people I’ve met where I live I don’t have faith in the creative ambition of. I’d like to be somewhere where the norm is less defined by what’s popular and more definined by people being internally motivated. Like I said I’m wanting to do this with the rock approach so preferably something in that vein as well
>Tampa/St Pete
What is good about these places?
Oh My God fucking reply to my thread
Oh My God fucking reply to my thread
Casper Wyoming
giantess vore is the patrician fetish
Philadelphia. Yes $30k is doable.
Internet help you find like minded musicians
HAHAHAHAHA IF YOU REALLY CANT MAKE MUSIC IN RICHMOND YOU'RE A FAILURE
there are literally noise, experimental, punk, hip hop, electronic shows every week you're a fucking loser lol -- location will not change that
is this douglas the child fucker? :)
Brandon?
You talking about the guy that used to run circle thrift? I’m not that guy but I know him. Honestly want to play with him some but I’m too anxious to bother him anymore since he can be sort of hard to read
Internet is exactly what I can’t do because everyone online is the exact opposite of what I’m going for, you to on RVA reddit or craigslist pages and talking about anything experimental is like you’re speaking a foreign language.
I cannot fucking find any shows because I don’t know how to find schedules and I have like no friends, Crystal Palace seems cool but I cannot find any dates for anything and the cunt that runs its Instagram page rejected me from following it for some baffling reason that deeply makes me angry. I don’t know any schedules for any house show venues and since Strange Matter is RIP there’s fucking nothing to do except house shows (Gallery 5 hardly counts).
And it’s cool that the noise etc stuff exists but the noise scene is very overwhelmed by edgelords but not the smart or arty kind but the kind that are edgy in an attention seeking “look at me and/or my opinion” way, experimental stuff is cool too but a lot of it is more aimless for my taste and I feel like could be grander than just the super out there-ness that it is, some punk is cool but so much of it is just nothing new and like half of it is way too political in a cringey way.
I definitely need to meet more people but I don’t know how I’m supposed to fucking do that when I can’t fucking get into anywhere.
Again, to add (and also to bump),
In fact, the problem with Richmond is that it seems to be exactly two kinds of people so much of the time, too many people actively like and enjoy stupid shit (promote and praise local indie bands with local buzz just because they seem cool and to look cool for promoting them, but in actuality are just boring and makes the person promoting them look like a fanboy) and the other half are attention seeking edgelord people that never matured past high school and instead of directing the edge towards being interesting and different they just use a very basic redundant idea dictated by the “scene” instead of doing something new. It’s so hard to meet people in general and these people are all I ever come across, if I’m even lucky, because most of the time it’s just a person who only likes one type of music and genres of music in a surface level way rather than a way that’s reflective of the method behind the music. I need people that are more than just one thing and everyone in Richmond has their one thing down to a dot to fit in but at the expense of originality
To expand, where the fuck am I supposed to go to ask about experimental rock that 1. Would get any response, and 2. get any response that doesn’t just talk about Pink Floyd or some other obviously very-slightly-not-surface-level band? This sounds so cliche what I’m saying but this is literally every internet location when looking for local musicians.
it sounds like you need to find a city that you fit into, you can pursue hobbies appropriately after that
honestly i would recommend nyc because it is so huge you can eventually find your niche of people. either that or go to some grad school for music. if you find it hard to fit in anywhere it's probably psychological and not that there is some great place for you out there.
but if we are throwing out suggestions, providence has a big noise/experimental rock scene for its size. lightning bolt and daughters and prob some other stuff.