Politiscale

Somewhere in Time

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>has worked
[citation needed]

Do you live in nightly fear that a serial killer will run through your neighborhood? Then it works.

>inb4 b-buh what about all the poor black people?

beethoven - complete piano sonatas [played by artur schnabel]

read marx
nice
degenerate
all reactionaries are paper tigers

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literal autism
just because society has not completely collapsed while using punitive justice does not mean it's effective, try using google for once in your life

Blackstar or Germ Free Adolescents

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>117 questions
lolno. Have my 8values instead
>Black Star - Mos Def & Talib Kewli Are Black Star

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You think around the idea that nobody is born evil and that's wrong, some people needs to be purify from the world. but it is true that chaining a monster in hell for a long time is counterproductive.

American Football

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educated people are well aware that people are products of their socioeconomic standings as well as their upbringings.

Invisible Touch - Genesis

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yikes

yikes

deutschegrammophon.com/en/cat/4830000

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spotted the true comrades

>read marx
no thanks

based

what about genetics

what's the deal with all these fucking communists
bet you're all american too, fucking hell

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Nice bait

because capitalism is outdated and exploitative
>bet you're all american too
even more of a reason to be against capitalism lollll

leftists make me sick. an affront to beauty, strength, and tradition

>communism
>not exploitative
Pick one faggot

>beauty
vague
>strength
vague
>tradition
not completely, but ok.

>Pragmatism : politics objectively boil down to looking at where the problems are and trying to solve them according to the means available.

Favorite album is
>Juvenile - 400 Degreez

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that's exactly why, if they lived in a shitty ass country with a underdeveloped economy they will be crying for some capitalist to fix their shit.

it's impossible to say because socialism has never reached the final stage of itself (which is communism)
or are you talking about socialism? let's define socialism first before we go there.

either of these two also quite coincidence they're both self titled
carnivore - self titled
suicidal tendencies - self titled

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t. never been to any ex-ussr country that had their economies set back 50 years due to some perverse fairytale

which underdeveloped economy do you have in mind?

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which ex-ussr country do you have in mind?

Hi Philippe

I like Blur

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>beauty
physically fit, non freaks
>strength
conviction, duty, honor
>tradition
leftists see traditional values and morals as stodgy remnants of another time. tradition isn’t the worship of ashes, it’s the preservation of fire

Your failed ideology fails to account for the individuality of man. Both socialism and communism are inherently evil. Imagine actually thinking the state has your best interest. The government is always the most poorly run sector in any country. Explain why nobody immigrates or has immigrated in droves to communist countries. like

>physically fit
i lift/go to the gym 5 times a week, i guarantee i have more protein coarsing through my body on a daily basis than you do.
not that it's relevant. what do political beliefs have to do with whether or not you work out?
>conviction
again, why do leftists inherently lack this?
>duty, honor
vague
>leftists see traditional values and morals as stodgy remnants of another time. tradition isn’t the worship of ashes, it’s the preservation of fire
i'm not personally against destroying all semblances of traditional values, i'm against destroying ones that might facilitate personal oppression, particularly against the more socially maligned and stigmatized groups in our society (such as the poor, or LGBT folk).

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>an affront to beauty, strength, and tradition
That would be the status quo of the industrial society you're living in, not some fucking "leftists" whose ideas are all about transforming it, by the way.

Like Cuba, USSR, East Germany, Yugoslavia, China, Vietnam. Oh and when the socialist havens like Sweden (isn’t even real socialism) gets immigrants their country literally turns to shit

>Marginalized groups like the LGBT
Those fucking degenerates are celebrated in western society now more than ever you twat.

Leftists all lack logos; therefore lacking conviction or any other sense of inherent truth. You’re all valueless swine.

I have the exact same results as you

poast physique, i need a laugh. everyone knows working out makes you right wing

>fails to account for the individuality of man
vague
>Imagine actually thinking the state has your best interest
i guess it's easy to say that when you live in an inherently oppressive economic system.
read the state and revolution by lenin -- the point of the state within a marxist-leninist society is that it's ran by the most class conscious working classmen, and their duty is to guide the uneducated working class into acheiving socialism (worker's control over the means of production)

holy shit i just fucked this up
*i'm not a personal advocate for destroying all semblance of traditional values, i am however a personal advocate for destroying ones that facilitate personal oppression
sorry i haven't slept yet lol

please provide evidence that socialism itself is what fucked those countries up and not mostly complex material issues. you got a lot of work to do here, so i'm hoping you know a lot about the history of these countries.

>everyone knows working out makes you right wing
by virtue of what exactly
and i don't think it's very responsible to post pictures of yourself on Yea Forums... i don't even know you.

And what if a worker gets rich?

>lacking conviction
>changing one's gender and living as another gender
>sense of identity unshaken by hostile environments
>lacking conviction
ah shut up puffed up idiot

Puntive justice is fine when the quality of life in jails is fine
To answer OP’s question, Grouper - Dragging a Dead Deer Up a Hill

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Classic right wing argument
>left makes point
>right points to imaginary "Conviction" and "Discipline," but without any actual substance

>complex material issues
Like what? You were and are a slave to the state in those places. Why haven’t tax haven capitalist counties gone to shit? You look for a model that does not exist, it is incompatible with humanity. The burden of proof is on you. Prove to me that systems like socialism or communism work. More people have died in Communist regimes than in any other form of government. And that has NOTHING to do with the system itself? Give me a fucking break.

Nice bait

That was not the crux of my point. They reject the inherent truths of humanity. Look into logos.

Look into logic?

And I am a cuck
I rise and play my Switch
And when my wife gets blacked
I raise another's child

(I answered neutral to quite a bit.)

Anyways, Pink Moon by Nick Drake.

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incidentally, i would argue that reactionary economic reforms within the soviet union during the 90s are what fucked cuba up in particular.
do you even care about the mass uplift from poverty, the free health care, free housing, the crushing of illiteracy, the staggering advances in science, etc. that the soviet union accomplished?

>Those fucking degenerates are celebrated in western society now more than ever you twat.
lol maybe by the cherrypicked left-of-center youtubers you see everywhere, but most people don't exactly have an enthusiastic view of transgender people. do you live in the US?

your kind of language is exactly what i'm referring to, by the way.
>Leftists all lack logos
vague
>therefore lacking conviction or any other sense of inherent truth
vague
>You're all valueless swine
not an argument

doing what? exploiting the cheap labor of the class he once belonged to? a lot of his underhanded profits (I.E. unpaid wages of the working class) would be redistributed.

literally what the fuck are you talking about

>Like what?
poor economic planning (which is why those famines in china happened, and incidentally famines are not exclusive to socialist economies by any means), western imperialism (particularly the american kind), vindictive economic sanctions, fascist shutdowns
>it is incompatible with humanity
by virtue of what exactly
>Why haven’t tax haven capitalist counties gone to shit?
i assume you're talking about european countries; it's because most of the economic growth behind capitalist countries are dependent on economic exploitation of underskilled workers, you dunce. god, have you no respect for nuance at all?
>Prove to me that systems like socialism or communism work
socialism worked pretty well in the soviet union and in cuba. see above.
>More people have died in Communist regimes than in any other form of government
lol oh really bitch
pic related

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*throws D&D dice*
hail Odin sire

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burial-untrue

honorary:
exmilitary
blank banshee 0
eccojams
itaots
congratulations
feels

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spending this much time editing these photos is unhealthy for you.

>Socialism worked in USSR and Cuba
What fucking planet are you from? Have you ever looked into how those people lived?

>most of the economic growth behind capitalist countries is dependent on exploitation of under skilled workers
Vague

Look into theological logos. But since you’re a communist I presume you’re also an atheist so it most likely won’t suffice for you.

>you’re all valueless swine; not an argument
Wasn’t meant to be an argument, it’s an insult.

In The Aeroplane Over The Sea

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I didn't, lol
you should say this to numale posters though, they have thousands of edited photos

Omg are you me? ( )

I'll give it a listen rn

gospel - the moon is a dead world

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Rust In Peace by Megadeth or Illinois by Sufjan Stevens

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holy shit this is so good

>Have you ever looked into how those people lived?
when exactly
i'm trusting that you know a lot about the histories of these two and aren't just relying on second-hand information you learned in high school, so don't fuck around.
>Vague
was the very development of the united states not dependent on slavery?
>Look into theological logos. But since you’re a communist I presume you’re also an atheist so it most likely won’t suffice for you.
i would actually consider myself agnostic, not a total fedora tipper. regardless, theology has to do with woo-woo cosmicshit that's not only inherently up to personal interpretation, but it's also been used as a weapon and justification for oppression of innocent masses for thousands of years, so obviously i'm not too thrilled with it.

in any case, we're dealing with the material and historical here, buddy, you can't just drift off into the realms of magical thinking solely because...

>Wasn’t meant to be an argument, it’s an insult.
...you know you're losing the debate.

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I declare that everyone on the left and the right is a total fucking idiot

Pink Floyd - The Wall
or
Hamilton(Original Broadway Cast Recording)

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le enlightened centrist

lefty scott looks at you and is unamused by your social fascism.

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just ignore him lmao. if he started running his faggot mouth like this in a country like ukraine or something hed get lynched. let him have fun with his commie larp in his rich western university

Actually I’m an asshole

not an argument
next time don't argue with people if you're this unprepared.

I don't have a favorite album, especially in english. Pac, Kendrick, Kanye tho. Also, the print is from a little while ago.

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if socialism or communism or whatever is so great go fuck off to a socialist country lmao

>was the very development of the united states not dependent on slavery?
No it actually wasn't
>when exactly, i'm trusting that you know a lot about the histories of these two and aren't just relying on second-hand information you learned in high school, so don't fuck around.
You still haven't answered the question. Do you know how people in the Communist regimes of Cuba and the USSR lived? It doesn't take a lot of research to come to the conclusion that those places were and are hellholes. I hope that you didn't get your information from a Michael Moore rockumentary...

Based uninformed user

such as?

>No it actually wasn't
how so?
>Do you know how people in the Communist regimes of Cuba and the USSR lived?
i know there was a lot of political repression (which was necessary to keep focus on establishing the working class' control over the economy) and a lot of economic sanctions against them (which just might have explained some of the spurts in poverty, just maybe), but again, i don't see the evidence that socialism *itself* is what fucked with these people's lives.
>It doesn't take a lot of research to come to the conclusion that those places were and are hellholes.
and yet it probably would take a bit more independent research to understand exactly WHY they had their select issues, wouldn't you think? you aren't taught that in high school because it's obviously within the best interests of the american empire to tell lies and half-truths about the history of communism and socialism.

>I hope that you didn't get your information from a Michael Moore rockumentary...

last i checked that fat fuck was a liberal, and i'm not a liberal, i'm a marxist.

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>Gets his news from Google.

i'm still waiting for the proof that working out turns you into a right-winger or whatever. where the fuck are you people getting this shit from?

north korea, venezeula, cuba, china, vietnam, laos, etc

sounds fun!

broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/j5e3z7/gym-bros-more-likely-to-be-right-wing-assholes-science-confirms

commie dyels fuck off lmao

Killing Joke - Night Time

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>communism has never been tried because it's never worked

yikes

Slavery is not an economically viable method of labor. Easy for slaves to work slower, soft protest, etc. You could argue that the economies in the south were dependent on slavery until the outbreak of the civil war, but even then the US as a whole was not supported by slavery. The industrial revolutions succeeded in America without the use of slavery. It has not been a relevant aspect of the economy in this country since its abolition in 1863.

>i know there was a lot of political repression (which was necessary to keep focus on establishing the working class' control over the economy) and a lot of economic sanctions against them (which just might have explained some of the spurts in poverty, just maybe), but again, i don't see the evidence that socialism *itself* is what fucked with these people's lives.
This is absolutely disgusting what you wrote here. The fact that political repression is necessary to prevent any sort of individual success is evil. Narcissistic to think a governing body knows what's best for an individual. If you still don't see a connection between Communism, Socialism, and the perpetual misery average people stuck in Cuba and the USSR were in, then you're in denial.

And Michael Moore is a socialist

Respectable

c'est dégoûtant

Also, in Cuba everyone has free acess to education (and that includes going to university), health care (like meds at production cost price) and safety (which may be ok in america, but in places like where I live, you can't go out at night without getting a gun pointed at you -not that its the criminals fault, they are a product of the conditions the system imposes them-). In Brazil, 51% of the population doesnt have basic sanitation. In Cuba, they dont have soap that smells great, but they all have soap to wash their bodies (that's why they ask tourists for such things. Not that they need it, but they want the "different one", the one that smells great).
In Brazil, you cant go out in a friday night to a neighborhood full of bars and pubs without getting stopped every 10 minutes by people asking for some change. Real miserable people.
Can you guys think about for a moment that Cuba is a little island in Central America that got embargoed by the US for 50 years, and think if that would be possible if it was a third world country under a capitalist regime? It would probably be a hellhole. Stop being a bunch of futile motherfuckers just because you were lucky and was born with money that care more about having a Mercedes than not having people starving to death. Cuba isnt as bad as ignorant people think.

cringe

The education and medical care quality are absolute shit. Cuba is also extremely dangerous.

>some capitalist to fix their shit
They had 3 decades here, yet capitalists didn't fix anything, still waiting. Not.

because why should we care about you butthole country in the middle of nowhere?

within the realm of a dying sun

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Well, tell me what about Cuba is so bad nowdays, that is a consequence of "communism" (I guess it can't be called communism, since the state still exists and shit).
>nearly decent perks
what else do you need for everyone to live ok?
bullshit. education isn't shit and cuban medics are great. brazil used to have a lot of cuban medics. not that my having great medics you necessairly have a good medical quality, but its kinda related. I know the education part of what you said is bullshit, but I wouldnt know for sure about the medical quality. can you tell me more about why's that and maybe recommend me something to read to know more about it?

>t. assblasted commie

Jar of Flies

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>NK
i believe that marxism-leninism was formally removed from their constitution decades ago
not that you would know that because you know nothing about the DPRK
>venezuela
do the workers own the means of production in that country?
>cuba
cuba seems to be doing pretty well nowadays
not as great as they could be, but they have a long way's to come after, you know, what they went through during the 90s thanks to the soviet union's disillusion
>china
forbes.com/sites/gadyepstein/2010/08/31/the-winners-and-losers-in-chinese-capitalism/#26ebca71688b
they are pretty much state capitalist
>vietnam
please read about the economic reforms undertaken in vietnam in 1986.
>laos
i don't know much about laos

this study doesn't account for the political knowledge of these gym goers, there is also a difference between "working out turns you right-wing" (which this study does not explicitly prove, and that's the original argument, so let's not deviate away from it and "people who go to the gym tend to be right-wing"

they don't care that cuba got their shit kicked in during the 90s, they're more than happy just repeating talking points that've been shoved down their throats since middle school.

>Slavery is not an economically viable method of labor. Easy for slaves to work slower, soft protest, etc. You could argue that the economies in the south were dependent on slavery until the outbreak of the civil war, but even then the US as a whole was not supported by slavery. The industrial revolutions succeeded in America without the use of slavery. It has not been a relevant aspect of the economy in this country since its abolition in 1863.
alright, i'll concede this, since i'm not as well versed in american history as i'd like to be.
>The fact that political repression is necessary to prevent any sort of individual success is evil
being rich = individual success?
by any means necessary, i'd imagine?
what a narrow worldview

[citation fucking needed]

>not that you would know that because you know nothing about the DPRK

>i don't know much about laos

retarded tripfag

>this thread
there's nothing more pathetic than a 1st world c*mmunist

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Jenny Death

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>Narcissistic to think a governing body knows what's best for an individual
the working class who run the economy in the first place don't know what's best? i want to mention that i used to believe everything you're spouting here until i actually sat down and read vladimir lenin for myself, and i understood that a state ran by the working class is 1000% better than a state

are you aware of how much destruction was brought upon laos by the united states
economically or otherwise

and please, the DPRK is the most lied about country on earth.

Name one factual, non-biased way in which it's lied about.

>are you aware of how much destruction was brought upon laos by the united states
economically or otherwise

apparently you aren't either

*better than a state ran by bureaucrats and war profiteers

it's funny because the unabomber was an anarchist
what's pathetic about a first worlder recognizing that the majority of the west's success can be attributed to imperialism and corporate profiteering?

this. get a fucking job commie faggots.

>what's pathetic about a first worlder recognizing that the majority of the west's success can be attributed to imperialism and corporate profiteering?

You're goddamn right.

well for starters, the idea that north korea is "communist" lol

stop thinking in stereotypes and read a book.

Burzum-Filosofem

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and that doesn't trouble you at all?

you've been shitposting for 3 hours straight, get a fucking job.
fuck i hate c*mmies

Kim Jong-Un literally the leader of the Workers' Party of North Korea you dumb motherfucker. There's a reason "real communism hasn't been tried yet." It's because communism is fairytale fantasyland for neets, used by demagogues to seize control over the people.

>stop thinking in stereotypes and read a book.
no thanks, I don't read moronic propaganda. i'd rather read animal farm.

Not when it benefits us all. Why should it bother you? Sure, colonialism and slavery was fucked up, but I still maintain the western culture is superior.

orwell was a socialist

but he wasn't a communist.

>le western culture meme
>le epic judeochristian values
neck yourself braindead neocon

You look like someone who has studied quite a lot. I started getting interested in politics not too long ago, so I still don't know much. I read the Manifesto, some Proudhon, Bakunin and am reading Stalin's Biography and trying to read Das Kapital's first volume, but that will take me a while. I've read something about Cuba, the revolution in 59 and Che, talked with some people that went to Cuba and to even directly to a Cuban.
BUT, I feel like I'm a little lost, and wouldn't know how to research about Marxism in NK's constitution, for exemple. Can you recommend me anything or give me some "tips" about how to "direct" my studies to understand better things in a pratical way and how they apply to the world today? Or that understanding would only come with the theorical knowledge (not that I'd want to stop reading the theory)?
Also I know that I'm mixing anarchism and communism theorists, but I can't keep myself on just "one of them" at a time. Also, I'm the dude that was talking about Cuba.

A group does not have an individual's best interest you fucking mongoloid. Again, if it is 1000 times better, why hasn't it worked anywhere its been implemented?

i'm off on thursdays, paper tiger.

>Kim Jong-Un literally the leader of the Workers' Party of North Korea
explain how exactly that makes north korea communist in any real sense of the term. could you even define communism for me without googling it first? somehow i doubt it.

seriously, what about north korea is communist? could you tell me? how in depth is your knowledge of the DPRK? how much wasn't filtered through an american news network's system yet?

i love how you all repeat the exact same talking points over and over again, it's so cute to witness.

> i'd rather read animal farm.
you mean the book that was meant as a commentary on totalitarianism in general, not particularly communism or socialism?
ask me how i know that the last time you read that book (or anything else by orwell for that matter) was in fucking high school. go on, ask.

>it was fucked up, but look at this chair made of the bones of working class soldiers!
neocon [2]

das kapital is a downright expedition, i wish you luck.
i'll try to get to your question in a bit but brb

>A group does not have an individual's best interest you fucking mongoloid
who do you think are the most oppressed and downtrodden group in an average society?
i'll give you a fucking hint: it's the working class. why WOULDN'T you want to prefer them to have power over imperialist elites?
>why hasn't it worked anywhere its been implemented?
why hasn't what worked, socialism or communism?

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ITT: reactionaries who don't realize that historically socialist countries have just as much context to independently wane through as any given capitalist country (especially the united states)

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*why wouldn't you prefer them to have power
my mind is exhausted

>who do you think are the most oppressed and downtrodden group in an average society?
i'll give you a fucking hint: it's the working class. why WOULDN'T you want to prefer them to have power over imperialist elites?
The middle class in America is being forgotten, real conservatives are aware of this. The Dem-Rep dichotomy is slowly breaking apart. The answer to this is not socialism or communism. The follies of the government won't be solved by it having an even greater role in people's personal lives. What if my interests don't align with the group? What happens then? Off to the killing fields or to the gulags I guess. "Necessary political suppression" as you would put it. Can't have anyone acting against the will of the group collective!

>why hasn't what worked, socialism or communism?
Both. And don't cherry pick some random socialist policies here or there. I want an example of successful full-implementation of socialism and/or communism.

Also, you mention imperialism a lot. Did you know that the Soviet Union was an aggressive imperialist power? They controlled millions of non-russians and had several proxy satellite states like East Germany, Poland, and Hungary.

Pink Floyd - Meddle

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Thanks haha. It is a laborious read, but a real good one from what I can see. Also, if you don't mind, what do you think of anarchism (let's try to generalize it, but I know there are tons of different strands)? I think I agree at
some degree when anarchists say that the state is a product of the bourgeoiesie (what the fuck is this word in english, I'll never remember how to write that lol) and can only serve to the capital's interests and only exists for that matter (the manifesto shows that how the state has evolved that way since feudalism, right?), but how could direct democracy, self management and such things anarchists want to implement work in huge countries such as the US (I know that is the last place where that would happend, but its just an exemple) or Brazil? From an "economic" stand point, it isnt susteinable at all, is it? And how could it be implemented if they refuse anything like socialism and a dictatorship of the proletariat? Sorry to ask you that many hard questions, but I've been wanting to ask that to someone that understands about it. Its ok if it aint possible to answer it.

Vektor - Outer Isolation

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Based

imagine this being your only response to defend your shitty ideals

you got owned

>John Coltrane - Live In Japan

Also post political sextants:
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oh, and I suppose this extends to neo-nazis as well. Like, they're not really responsible for their actions and beliefs or some shit?

OK Computer

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political tests are retarded btw; they remove all nuance and ask stupid questions

im fuckign crying

Nice

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Probably Marvin Gaye's What's going on.

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>The amount of commies and statists in this thread

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Genesis - Foxtrot

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You would think I'd like Varg, but I don't.
He's a retard and Steven Stapleton is a much better example of a Musician living outside of the system.

Super split between communism/capitalism, socialism it is i guess

Favorite right now is probably Molchat Doma - Etazhi

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Peste Noire - L´ordure

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>thegreatreplacement.pdf

Currently its
Saint Molly - Fox Academy and Hi, This is Flume
They change all the time those are the 2 most recent.

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Ariel Pink- Pom Pom

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Cool, so you’re a literal tankie
Let me guess, Soviet mass murders were akchyually a good thing because they were uhhhhh putting the kulak pigs in their place?

Also, the choice between Internationalism and Nationalism is shit. They are both terrible options –either way, local autonomy is suppressed, (true) cultural diversity is destroyed, and the individual is made into the "mass man".
In a representative democracy, he votes for politicians that do not (and cannot ever truly) represent him, and in an oligarchy he has no choice but to go along with the elites (the US is both). At a large scale, direct democracy is no better as his vote is made meaningless by the mass of people.
What if I want to live in an autonomous community made up of several families under a set of rules and guidelines for each, like how the Amish are organized? That's why my chart is fairly neutral on this.

The 9axes political test offers a distinction between the unitary/federal, democratic/authoritarian, and nationalist/globalist axes. That’s what I like about it. Unlike politiscales, which doesn’t really factor in the authoritarianism of the government (I mean there is regulationism vs laissez-faire but it’s entirely possible to be democratic and highly regulatory).

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>What if I want to live in an autonomous community made up of several families under a set of rules and guidelines for each, like how the Amish are organized? That's why my chart is fairly neutral on this.
I've always thought about this, but then there are the dangers of tribal conflict and of being conquered by a homogeneous state, basically similar problems to anarchism.
At least we sort of have localized laws by state in the US so you can live in the state that better fits your preferences.

OP here

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heliocentric worlds

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117 questions? jesus christ no

9axes is worse because it has more loaded and vague questions.

Examples:
>Nations fighting among each other gets in the way of progress
I agree, but what if I do not see "progress" as an inherent good?
>Government surveillance is necessary in the modern world.
I agree, that's partly why I oppose what the modern world has become.
>Having independent nations with the risk of global conflict creates a large threat to humanity as a whole
>In order for humanity to survive, we must get past having separate nations
I agree, but not by centralizing further and forming Supranational states. In fact I believe the exact opposite.
>The government should not fund any religious organizations in any way
What is "the government" in this case?
>It is important to maintain our national sovereignty.
>Only our national language(s) should be spoken in our country
>We should be more accepting to other cultures
What cultures? This is a very general question.
>Some freedom must be given up in order to keep people safe
>The government should support and only recognize one religion
>Catering to popular opinion is detremental [sic] to a nation
>Direct democracy is the best form of government
>Those who disagree with the government should be removed from the country
>Religion does not belong in government
At what level of government?
>It is better to maintain a balanced budget than to ensure welfare for all citizens.
>implying these necessarily contradict each other
>Tradition just hinders the progress of technology
>Strong states weaken a nation
>A group of states without a strong national government is merely an alliance, not a nation
And? Why is that a bad thing?
>National cultures are important to protect
...then what?
>Traditional medicines are often more effective than modern medicines
No, but it is impossible to have the benefits of modern medicine without the disadvantages of a society needed to create modern medicine.

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9axes is worse because it has more loaded and vague questions.

Examples:
>Nations fighting among each other gets in the way of progress
I agree, but what if I do not see "progress" as an inherent good?
>Government surveillance is necessary in the modern world.
I agree, that's partly why I oppose what the modern world has become.
>Having independent nations with the risk of global conflict creates a large threat to humanity as a whole
>In order for humanity to survive, we must get past having separate nations
I agree, but not by centralizing further and forming Supranational states. In fact I believe the exact opposite.
>The government should not fund any religious organizations in any way
What is "the government" in this case?
>It is important to maintain our national sovereignty.
>Only our national language(s) should be spoken in our country
>We should be more accepting to other cultures
What cultures? This is a very general question.
>Some freedom must be given up in order to keep people safe
>The government should support and only recognize one religion
>Catering to popular opinion is detremental [sic] to a nation
>Direct democracy is the best form of government
>Those who disagree with the government should be removed from the country
>Religion does not belong in government
At what level of government?
>It is better to maintain a balanced budget than to ensure welfare for all citizens.
>implying these necessarily contradict each other
>Tradition just hinders the progress of technology
>Strong states weaken a nation
>A group of states without a strong national government is merely an alliance, not a nation
And? Why is that a bad thing?
>National cultures are important to protect
...then what?
>Traditional medicines are often more effective than modern medicines
No, but it is impossible to have the benefits of modern medicine without the disadvantages of a society needed to create modern medicine.

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Johnny Hobo and the freight Trains - Love Songs for the Apocalypse

Hillary?

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It just needs more questions and it’s currently in development

Van Morrison - Astral Weeks
Based

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Hillary would have a higher score in Essentialism, Punitive Justice and Conservatism

nice paint skills

>hillary
are you retarded?

As well as Capitalism, Laissez-faire, Productivism, Reformism, and Nationalism.
It's completely retarded that people think she is anything but a corrupt neoliberal (at least she is honest about being a neoliberal unlike Trump).

neoliberals are chads
alt-rightiests are virgins
communists are incels

not surprised but not pleased either

>Cardiacs - Sing to God

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Brockhampton

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At the moment, I'm enjoying Clube da Esquina the most probably

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I don't know... Amputechture, Soundtracks for the Blind, Mule Variations, In the Court of the Crimson King... it's a hard decision.

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didn't edit it

>117 questions
what a waste of time, and all of these communist tests are always inaccurate

>Right wing national capitalist, manchesterian liberal, low class citizen
>Coil - Astral Disaster

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>megadeth - rust in peace
or
>Metallica - the black album

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>those albums
You 14?

>that chart
Yeah, 14.

based

>98% productivism
>entry level metal

ew

*ahem*
FUCK NEO-MARXIST ECOLOGISM AND FUCK PEACE PROTESTERS

Conservatism and Socialism are unacceptable
>The Smiths - Meat is Murder

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disgusting

Based.

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>Twin Fantasy 2018

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Queen - A Night at The Opera

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Fucking disgusting

Your Ecology to Productivisim is a mess but otherwise very based.

Also solid album, we would probably be friends if I knew IRL.

(((educated))) people

>i'm against destroying ones that might facilitate personal oppression, particularly against the more socially maligned and stigmatized groups in our society (such as the poor, or LGBT folk).
hoo boy i know where this is going
i give it 6 months before sal becomes a tranny

Deathconsciousness

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Alive 2007
Apparently Equality of Rights = Commie
Slimy motherfuckers who always deals with absolutes

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dr dre- the chronic

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King Crimson - Red
Also, americommies should piss off

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*shels - Plains of the Purple Buffalo

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Genuinely surprised to see so many people on the far left here. I thought Yea Forums was an alt-right shithole.

people who are into creative arts tend to be idealistic. that's the kindest way to put it.

leave this website, redditfag

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A label based off somebody else's framework of classification does not define me

Uncle Acid and The Deadbeats, Blood Lust

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Wow it's almost like the cultural pop-underground is a bigger place than you thought

based

Apologies, mein Fuhrer. I'll not drop the edgy teenager facade again.

Yk I'm inclined to agree. If someone is shamelessly neolib, that could be based. Just stick to your guns and you're automatically a Chad

wtf do you mean that's boomerism in a nutshell
I bet you anything that nigga is in his late 20s early 30s

>neoliberals are chads
neoliberalism is reddit incarnate. they are the farthest thing from chads

King Diamond - Abigail

Based

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Miles Davis - On the Corner

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>lenin
Holy fucking based

>venezuela
t.

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Fucking hell.

>having favourite album

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>Gojira - From Mars to Sirius

What does totally orange even imply?

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imagine having a serious political discussion on here

>user Totally DESTROYS Socialism With Logic

>Liberty
>Fatherland
>Work
>Order

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>just got back from the discomfort

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Have you seen your own posts?
Typical neocon hypocrisy, lmao.

>Time - Electric Light Orchestra

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Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral

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literally deleting all the albums commies claimed to like in this thread from my library.

Good. Stop listening to our music.

Tim Buckley - Lorca

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oh trust me i will. don't want to be indoctrinated by this shit.
never liked tim buckley anyway. deleted.

Magical thinking: the post.
memes ate your brain.

Anaal Nathrakh - The Whole of the Law

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>removing an artist from your library because someone you don't like likes them
that's petty and retarded

because i don't like commie music?

>politiscales.net/
>117 questions

nah b i'm not taking that shit

based schizo retard

Gorgoroth - Under the Sign of Hell 2011

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based I don't know what is communism retard

You replied to the wrong person, retard.

Everything fully on the left (except maybe justice) because I wasn't born in a millionaire family

Can - Future Days

For every artist you like, a communist likes it too.

No, I replied exactly how and to whom I intended to reply.

Kaddisfly - Set Sail the Prairie

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He's just a Nazbol

He's just a shithead.

Then you're even more of a retard.

Here's your free-minded champion against the ideologically possessed

COPE, political birdbrain poser.

im not schizophrenic. why do you think that? has somebody told you that?
can you prove it?
yes all ideology is bad

>im not schizophrenic. why do you think that?
>commies touched my gf in a bus better get rid of her

theres been enough signs that you are not worth talking to and those numbers are just the icing on the cake if you know what i mean

Death Grips - Ex Military

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Based pathetic seething retarded loser

>yes all ideology is bad
Based pseudo-nihilist retard

So far this thread only has 84 posters, of which only a part are communists. Since each poster gives only one artist, and since you "deleted" some already, the portion of communists that like what you like is already pretty high. Since there are more communists in the world than people on this board, it is almost impossible (unless you like something extremely obscure) that someone you dislike doesn't like what you like.
>don't want to be indoctrinated by this shit.
m8 I hate communists and Henry Cow is one of my favourite bands.
If you are retarded enough to be "indoctrinated" by an artist that has no connection to communism besides "someone I don't like likes it" then you didn't really believe anything in the first place. This has to be a troll.

Autopsy - Mental Funeral

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^^^ c:

but let me guess, only your particular far-left/far-right ideology is valid, everyone else is a brainwashed subhuman

>all reactionaries are paper tigers
Look mom, I learned some new words!

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open borders/lenient immigration (massive influx of cheap labor) leading to wages being driven down for your country's working class people helps working class people how, exactly?

>you're not allowed to point out examples of failed socialist governments because, uhh, reasons

b-b-b-but if i don't pretend to be a political extremist on the computer they'll call me le cringe centrist :-(

endtroducing - dj shadow

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He's a slave of mass-media, he repeats whatever they tell him. At least be humane a bit. His life consists of being a bio-battery.

>economically moderate
>socially far-right
this is objectively the only correct ideology

>I argue in favor of authoritarian big government because cool pop stars tell me to PS you're a slave of mass media xDD

they can pretend western imperialism didn't necessitate the migration and that they're just good neighbors or some sappy horseshit like that

economic interdependence as understood in liberal society is predicated on imperialism and subjugation

back to dumblr you blue hair fucks
best in thread

That's exactly what I pointed out.

based

if you like that band you are probably a communist

Wolfmother - Wolfmother

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based good politics, terrible music taste poster

Why?
youtube.com/watch?v=QYkKi6kKX50
A little bit White Stripes, a little bit Jethro Tull, I think it's awesome.

Are you from the Middle Ages?

>fascist
>listening to hippie music

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Because of the music or the politics?
I mean I intensely dislike modern pop shit, I rarely listen to anything from this millenium.. They popped up on the radio and I bought their album, end of the story.
And I about the politics, in 1950 you would've called me mainstream. I'm a proponent of the nuclear family and I like women in dresses and men in suits better than what runs around today, with everybody looking like apes.

>Imagine being a modern """"conservative""""
The nuclear family is already a broken down version of the family you retard. The MAIN driving force for the breakdown of the family is economic liberalism not social liberalism.
firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2013/05/whats-wrong-with-ldquofamily-valuesrdquo

I got a well paying job and I want many children as I have two siblings, too. You're smashing open doors.

There's no need to destroy socialism. It always colapses on its own.

>socialist

But it takes a few million innocent people with it.

Yikes

>one of the highest rates of industrialization seen in human history

"B-b-b-but muh laissez faire"

Read some history dumbass

>117 questions
Yeah, no

I WOULD KICK THE SHIT OUT OF YOU

The saddest part about this is you could read through the wikipedia page in like 5 minutes amd realize none of these are communist, but you're too retarded even for that.

You realize that venezuala has a lower share of public ownership than the UK, right? Is the UK communist now too?

how much more based can you get?

Wire - Chairs Missing

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Chavez was a Stalinist bastard and is totally responsible for Venezuela's problems.

Batushka-litourgiya or Richard Dawson peasant

Based
Nazbol gang

8values is pretty useless, it erases a lot of nuance and is almost as clumsy of a view on politics as the political compass test.

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>that chart
>Batushka
>>>>shreddit

Yung Lean - Warlord
based

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but that's just the poor display of a single man, it doesn't mean there's nothing about socialism that isn't worth reading its many political branches of theories and learning about.

Ritual Music for the True Clochard - Urfaust

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i'm not aware of anyone i posted's political beliefs (be it phil spector, joe meek, scott walker, etc.), i was just posting them because i liked their music, and i wasn't being particularly serious in this post here. sorry for the confusion

see

Based NWW fan

Yea Forums IS FOR COMRADES ONLY.
>City of Caterpillar

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also based scale + album

Inferi - The Path of Apotheosis

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tales from topographic oceans by Yes

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noice

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probably the devil amd god are raging inside me by brand new

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which test is this?

Jeff Buckley - Grace

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The Slim Shady LP

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Violent Femmes — Violent Femmes

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Hounds of Love

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pretty based desu

Sparklehorse - Good Morning Spider

Also, someone please tell me what the fuck I am, I'm too much of a brainlet to understand my own score.

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I had some problems with that test, since I don't know much about politics and my knowledge of english political terms is fairly narrow. After completion I looked at the Help -section and I don't think I'm an essentialist based on the description of that ideology. Also some of the questions seem to be meant towards US citizens, as a finn they felt weird. :D

And Vampire Weekend is my favourite album, although I have multiple favourites

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