Zoomer here. Im a bit fadcinated with MJ.Was MJ really that huge in the 90s and 80s...

Zoomer here. Im a bit fadcinated with MJ.Was MJ really that huge in the 90s and 80s? Hearing thriller and beat it is nice, but i dont think it warranted such a devoted cult following rivaling a dictator.

I only remember him being a boogeyman and I imagined every child molester to look like him.

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>Was MJ really that huge in the 90s and 80s?
Yeah, he was. He took over MTV in the 80s.

I never understood how music videos where ever entertaining

not so much in the late 90s
I never really understood why his music got so popular. the spare production and everything seem to go against everything traditional.

>Touches your kid
SHAMONE

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Hell is with his hair?

Yeah, your favorite music accompanied by visuals? Why would that ever succeed?

obviously when you look at em now, but as a kid who grew up watching those videos it was captivating and inspiring. he simply had a great likeable personality opposed to many other bland pop stars of his time, but obviously overtime we've seen that image get tarnished by psyop like leaving neverland. MJ was revealing too much truth about the industry as he was a tortured kid. read into his talks about SONY

Are zoomers really this dumb?

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Remember when he burned his hair in that Pepsi commercial? Probably a combination of that + shitty wig work.

As a late Gen X'er, Michael Jackson wasn't one of those artists you remember discovering, he was so big that you just already knew who he was from infancy. Him and Madonna were on the TV and in the news constantly throughout the 80's. By the 90's, though, Jackson was pretty much just made fun of for all his weirdness, idiosyncrasies, and mishaps. His music was definitely not cool with young people with the emergence of grunge.

they were when people didn't have computers

I fucking hate zoomers so goddamn much.
MJ was so big that you will never comprehend it. There has not been an artist in your lifetime that has even approached his level. We're talking a musician who was one of the top 10 wealthiest people IN THE WORLD.

It's hard to believe now but yes, incredibly huge during the eighties. How many times have you seen a 20 minutes long album ad on tv broadcasted live all around the globe? He was quite likely the most famous person in the world.

What do you do for fun? I still get stoned and watch music videos in the current year. They're just fun.

Last night I was at a meeting for a county-wide youth charity that gets a pot of money each year to hold workshops, social clubs etc for 11-25 year olds, and once a year all the people who use the charity are invited to vote on the agenda for that year (I'm currently the oldest member and due to leave in a few months when I turn 26); right now the majority of the kids are around the 11-16 mark

I proposed that we make access to arts and culture a priority, for those unable to afford travel or up-front costs for hobbies and get excluded from music, film, photography, etc.; I argued it would lessen loneliness among the poorest and reduce the burden on overstretched mental health services by giving people more outlets for their stress etc.

it was voted into the bottom 4 out of 20 measures behind such important, focused aims as "education", "end capitalism" and "smoking" (how many teenagers smoke these days, I thought it was all vapes?)

>His music was definitely not cool with young people with the emergence of grunge.
Really? Dangerous sold almost as well as Bad. Jackson appeared to have retained every ounce of popularity he had in the late 80s right up until the first bout of accusations.

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HEE HEE

ayuwoki

Music matters like that to like 5-10 thousand people worldwide. To everyone else it's a secondary thing at best.

I even offered opening up my point to include sports, religious gatherings and other such aspects of culture that can bring people together and/or improve peoples' wellbeing through creativity, fitness and/or socialising so that it wasn't simply based around what I like, but nope no change

I'm a very early zoomer and just saw thriller for the first time a few weeks ago. it was pure fucking kino and you should just neck yourself

I'm also an early zoomer and this opinion is gay

Kill yourself

What other entertainer in History was so famous that they had a Dinsyland Attraction created to showcase their music with state of the art 3d technology.

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Why are you asking here?
Practically everyone here is a zoomer.
Prepare to get a bunch of responses from people born in 1996 who think they know what the 90s were like.

Thing is that back then people tried to make music videos more than just a performance, but a short film. Sure there's music videos out there these days that are like that, but it was more common in the 80s thanks to MJ.

>What other entertainer in History was so famous that they had a Dinsyland Attraction created to showcase their music with state of the art 3d technology.
rivers cuomo

>Was MJ really that huge in the 90s and 80s
What the fuck.

>Zoomer here. Im a bit fadcinated with MJ.Was MJ really that huge in the 90s and 80s? Hearing thriller and beat it is nice, but i dont think it warranted such a devoted cult following rivaling a dictator.
Yes but there was also Madonna, George Michael, Frankie goes to Hollywood, Culture Club, Iron Maiden. Mr T.

why did he turn white?

EEEEEOOOO

Mental illness

boomer here
it was great MJ was everywhere and having actual good music being popular was the best

Vitiligo

When you hear a song you like don't you imagine the artist performing it in your mind? The video brings it to life.

Tell me about Michael, why does he wear the nose?

I don't think Thriller is his best. Watch Smooth Criminal to see his true talent.

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>Was MJ really that huge in the 90s and 80s?
There's been nothing and nobody as huge as that since. In the Internet age, I don't think there can be.

I'm an early zoomer and this opinion is correct

Supposedly that shape tends to happen when you have too many nose jobs. He probably had body dysmorphia.

I have no idea who bought Dangerous. Wheras everyone bought Bad. Because it was by the guy who made Thriller and OTW

He took showers, unlike most darkies

Agree with this from growing up in the 90s, I just associated him with being a weird ass fucker that people used to love

Sshh I like to pretend mu is one of the few refuges left for oldfags

he had a giant golden statue and everyone loved him
>mfw (((they))) killed Michael to control black music

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King of Pop, nigga. He wasn't just the biggest artist in popular music, he was a phenomenon. The release of Dangerous in 1991 and his worldwide tour in 1992 was his peak.

He wouldn't look too bad here if he lost the lip stick and bleached his teeth

>The release of Dangerous in 1991 and his worldwide tour in 1992 was his peak.
No.

The peak of his popularity I mean.

Also the false rape accusations + he simply stopped giving a shit about music. I mean after the 90s he only released Invincible and after that he pretty much retired until This is it

This was peak MJ

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idk about peak but I do love this song a lot, the production on it is so clean, one of my fav tracks by MJ. He looks so odd here though, his nose is ridiculously tiny, also what is with that lip filler?

I'm still heartbroken from Leaving Neverland, I wish I could be in denial of it but I've done way too much research into the allegations to be able to deny it at this point. His music will always have a place in my heart though...

His 1992 Dangerous Tour was his peak performing live for sure

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>I've done way too much research into the allegations to be able to deny it at this point.
If you did your research then you'd realize he's innocent of all accusations made in that documentary. Get your head out of the sand.

They literally found nude photos of one the friends he hung out at Neverland with when they investigated him (Jonathon Spence)

Why would he own a nude picture of a little boy he hung out with?

fuck that nightmare fuel

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There's no proof that photo ever existed and Jonathon Spence said he was never molested.

It's literally filed by the police into evidence

How about the FBI conducting a 13 year investigation and finding literally nothing?

and never submitted in court.

They didn't do a 13 year investigation, they just helped the police agencies when requested. This is a myth.

I would vote education over what you proposed. I think what you proposed was good, but in my field of work i see people everyday who were failed by our shit education system and we need to improve it.

Just like your "nude photo" of a kid the police supposedly found. Itz all myths

The prosecution wanted to submit to the court but couldn't because Jonathon Spence wasn't testifying.

Kill yourself

Get outta here Wade

He took over the fucking world, not just MTV. Michael Jackson was the most famous and influential human being to ever live in earth, and his level of fame and power will never be replicated due to numerous cultural factors.

wrong again you fucking idiot.

Jackson is the most recognizable music artist of all time and the one with the widest crossover appeal. You go to the hood tomorrow and niggas won't know who the Beatles are or who Freddie Mercury is, even after the film. I know, I was that kid years ago, but everyone knows Michael from the hills to the fucking hollows, or at least everyone used to. I don't really know how zoomers or whatever generation of shitheads that's after them is currently perceiving them.

An user said it earlier in the thread, but I don't remember learning about Jackson, he just always seemed to have been there. I do remember exactly where I was, who I was with, and random things about the day he died, though. I think his death marked the end of an era and is the best point of division between post-modernism and whatever the hell we're in now.

Like Drake might be in that place now? The Rock? Adele? Taylor Swift? Combined they aren't even close to the level of fame that MJ had at his peak. (not sure they're as famous as Michael Jordan was either.

There are far too many entertainment options nowadays for that to be duplicated - most people used to consume the same stuff, because options were somewhat limited. For example, a TV show 30 years ago getting like 4 million viewers would be considered a disappointment. Drake is one of the most popular artists, but he doesn't have anywhere close to the same impact.

Everyone knows who the Beatles are you shit head

oh my god is michael jackson hee hee hee hee

I remember when the 'Black or White' video premiered on tv. Jesus Christ that shit is surreal.

at the end there's like 5 minutes where he dances in complete silence, massages his junk a bunch, smashes the word 'nigger' with a crowbar, then turns into a cat and walks away.

Niggas don't know the Beatles. It's the truth whether you like it or not.

Right, I bet black people have never heard of the Beatles. Right.

Early zoomer here, and I'm surprised you don't remember the resurgence in popularity he had around his death. I first got into his music after that and I'm sure I'm not the only one my age who did.

>bottom 4 out of 20
nice

>at the end there's like 5 minutes where he dances in complete silence, massages his junk a bunch, smashes the word 'nigger' with a crowbar, then turns into a cat and walks away.

i-is this true...?

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zoomers gtfo

MJ aint got nothing on me
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He absolutely did it no question about it

Based kids

>very early zoomer
Is this some subtle way of saying underageb&?

People approach an artist's music differently when they have a larger than life persona. Lady Gaga's music is really meh but she was just as huge for a couple of years

Everyone knows how Nevermind famously knocked Dangerous from the charts. By the early 90s, MJ was definitely not cool anymore and viewed as a relic from 6-7 years earlier and Janet was far more popular.

Michael's 90s albums started to get too political and were mostly just whining about how we're so mean to black people. I guess he thought he needed to compete with Public Enemy or something.

Thriller was like the album of the decade bar none. Everyone and their grandma knew those songs. Shit was massive and completely inescapable back then.

based and redpilled.

YOUVE BEEN KISSED BY
YOUVE BEEN TOUCHED BY
A SMOOOTH PEDOPHILE

Pewdiepie

Name. Not song. Play a beatles song and they wouldnt know

>obviously when you look at em now, but as a kid who grew up watching those videos it was captivating and inspiring. he simply had a great likeable personality opposed to many other bland pop stars of his time
Madonna was always too douchey and cynical for her own good.

It would seem so.

Same feelings here

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I just watched it on your recommendation. I am truly grateful.

Yes except the nigger part. He does smash up a car and a window, then a hotel sign falls on him. He's also intermittently screaming/roaring like a panther the whole time.

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>yes except the nigger part

You probably watched the cut version. In the uncut version the car window says 'go home NIGGER' or something like that. Linked here:

MJ was the greatest, simple as that

Imagine listening to Another Part of Me and not getting goosebumps. Shit fucking slaps

haha zoomers these days. i watched MTV all day when i was young. it was awesome. Eminem music videos were the best.

you have all been 'trollered'. trollering was an ancient internet meme back before t series, tiktok and fortnite, where older users would 'trolling' eachother using fake and stupid stuffs. people born after 2000 are beginning to learn this 'troll'; technique themselve. you need to watch out!

>Was MJ really that huge in the 90s and 80s?
Bigger.
He was beyond massive.
The only person to even come close is Bieber, and Bieber doesn't have the mystery surrounding him, or the elite dancing.

>Hearing thriller and beat it is nice, but i dont think it warranted such a devoted cult following rivaling a dictator.
1. A cult is just a religion without political power. A cult is smaller than the following MJ had. Much smaller.
2. Listen to Off the Wall. It's better than Thriller, but both are 10's. Shake Your Body DOwn To The Ground is also a killer single he did with his brothers. Recommended.

Growing up in the late 80s and early 90s my parents didn't let us watch MTV but we still knew all about Michael and Madonna and heard all their songs and their drama

>Sshh I like to pretend mu is one of the few refuges left for oldfags
typical newfag mistake: "oldfag" means someone who has been on these boards a long time, whereas "olderfag" means an user who is old. I'm both. I'm old like pic related and I first showed up here in the first year, about 9 months in.
inb4 why are you here, old fuck?
>The real question is why are YOU here?
I'm old af, I've gone out and sowed my wild oats 100x over.
I've earned my time doing fuck all, and I choose to spend it browsing here.
But you?
You should be out doing young man shit: working hard through the day, prowling the night, fucking and fucking around.
Spend your days and nights sitting in front of a screen like an old man? Why would you?

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MJ IS INNOCENT

>Bieber
Come on, you're smarter than this. If the Internet hadn't collectively decided to hate him/turn him into a meme, he'd be as forgotten as countless other tween idols.