Now that the dust has settled, we can agree this is the best album of all time, right?

I think it would have been a lot better if he had actually completed it. He was probably incapable of doing it by the end without wasting millions of dollars but I have no doubt that he heard something way better in his head. It's definitely imperfect the way it is.

>while somewhat sane
honestly he wasn't sane at all - just see how he reacted to "Fire", he has PTSD from it to this day

what do you mean? the first 19 tracks are the album, the rest is bonus

the album is separated in 3 movements

shut up bitch

>listening to the "three movement" version
Yikes

i'm not your mom

there is no other version.

Are we just talking about the Smile Sessions recording released in 2011 or whatever?

>there is no other version.
there are many versions.

I think he means Official versions. The only Official ones are Smile Sessions and Brian Wilson Presents. The rest are fan recreations and modifications using the bonus tracks to change arrangements and whatnot.

>The only Official ones are Smile Sessions and Brian Wilson Presents
Oh you mean the historical revisionist ones?

that and brian's solo which are essentially the same

bootlegs are not relevant

I found the best version ever and the author deleted it soon after I downloaded it. it's perfect. it was called 1967 version or something and I don't remember the authors name but he made it sound so perfect

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My mix lads

Historical revisionism is not relevant

and what version isn't "historical revisionism"?

The ones that try to be historically accurate?

where would i find those

Mind uploading?

is it the albums that never were one?

Smiley smile is better

bump

I've only ever listened to Brian Wilson Presents Smile what other versions should I listen

Lol you idiot the ones that "try" to be historically accurate are the historically revised ones. Smile Sessions didn't revise shit, it was released as it was recorded and where it stopped. Calling that Historical Revisionism while praising people literally recreating or rearranging tracks seems a little backwards.

>Smile Sessions didn't revise shit,
Really? Then how would there have been three movements if there was only two sides of a record?

So I'm taking a look at some other versions and the Purple Chick version is just BWPS/TSS although in stereo apparently

The soniclovenoize or albums that never were version is based on his opinion on how it could've been, with no facts or references to back anything up

next up is alternativeBWPS

where can you find alternativebwps?

>with no facts or references to back anything up
Didn't he write like a 20 page essay tho

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aren't you forgetting this album, OP?

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>First and foremost, I offer that SMiLE would have been a singular two-sided album of 12 pop-songs, just as Pet Sounds was
>My theory to create an authentic 1967 reconstruction is to make what I call a ‘SMiLE Sandwich’. First we must get two slices of bread for our sandwich: the opening and closing tracks of each side of the LP. If SMiLE was simply going to be a modest follow-up to the previous album Pet Sounds, then we can postulate that it could have followed industry standards in the 1960s with each side of the album beginning with one of the songs promoted as a single

he's just guessing

There are 20 tracks, many without vocals or added melodies found on Brian Wilson Presents or in the bonus content of recordings that weren't arranged over the work in progress tracks.

Do you not understand how the history of Smile works? You seem to think that somehow fan versions made from boots or previously unreleased tracks/recordings are a more accurate representation than the actual Smile Sessions version which is absolutely incorrect. Smile Sessions is the album, as it was in its entirety, when Brian abandoned the project. BWPS is the closest thing to accurate we will get unfortunately. The fan recreations are just that. That isn't to say some aren't good but to say Smile Sessions is historical Revisionism is just absurd.

>he's just guessing
No, that information comes from Van Dyke Parks

Van DYKE parks, the original onions boy

>absolutely incorrect.
Why not?
>as it was in its entirety, when Brian abandoned the project
really? They were going to digitally fly in stuff from other albums that hadn't been recorded yet?

No dude. when smile was recorded Brian use the same process is used for pet sounds. He recorded modularly which means that he had separate tracks for instruments doing different sections of songs and he could arrange the songs while producing however he wanted. after he had abandoned smile and returned to it decades later he went back and listen to those unreleased recordings that we got with Smile Sessions. He alone being the creator and writer of the album revisited the album with Van Dyke parks and put in the sessions or portions that he wanted to add originally. They didn't digitally fly anything in nor did they use the previous recordings he's simply referred to them so that he could record new hire quality renditions of the songs in their completion as he saw back in the day. There is nothing about digitally flying in additions. The only ones who were doing that are the people making fan renditions of smile.

Excuse the shit spelling and grammar. Phone posting on my way home from work using voice to text.

source? he doesn't mention that anywhere

My children were raised
You know they suddenly rise
They started so long ago
Head to toe, healthy wealthy and OFTEN WISE
AT THREESCORE AND FIVE
I'M VERY MUCH ALIVE
I STILL GOT THE JIVE TO SURVIVE WITH THE HEROES AND VILLAINS

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No.

I don't care about what burnout Brian does. The original recordings are the best and his modern recordings are bad. his voice is bad. it's worthless. he is 100% worthless past whenever Til I Die was created.

don't bully Brian you asshole

>There is nothing about digitally flying in additions.
There are in the first disc of The Smile Sessions you dummy

>Now that the dust has settled, we can agree this is the best album of all time, right?

No we can't.

Unpopular But Correct Opinion:
Smile is 5 killer songs (Surf's Up, Cabinessence, Heroes & Villains, Wonderful, Vega-Tables) and a BUNCH of half-baked, mostly instrumental fragments. THAT'S LITERALLY ALL SMILE IS. The 5 good cuts are among the best shit Brian ever wrote, but it wasn't ENOUGH good shit to put out as an album, especially in the era of Sgt. Pepper, Piper At the Gates of Dawn, Flowers, Parsley, Sage, Rosemary & Thyme, Something Else, Disraeli Gears, and Surrealistic Pillow. Drugs hadn't killed off Brian's ability, but drug use slowed him down considerably to where other artists could make 2 albums in the time it took him to make 1. And as he didn't tour with the Beach Boys any longer, he had a LOT of free time to get into the studio and work his ass off. But, he spent too much time stoned and living in fear that Phil Spector was spying on him. Poor bastard.

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thank you so much dog

>who the fuck rates an albums in thirds?

It's the new NASCAR system!
(They literally break up races into 3 "stages" now.)

Shut up

>Smiley smile is better

"The world was looking for a homerun [with Smiley Smile] and we gave them a bunt."
- Carl Wilson

YOU shut up.

Don't make me vore you

I disagree, all the instrumentals are amazing except I''m in great shape and Water

What is recorded on the Smile Sessions are the arrangements as they were recorded in 1967. The only thing that makes it special is the inclusion of ALL the backing tracks, isolated vocals, instrumental tracks, etc. that were used through modular production to create the arrangements. Some were unused, but made it in as bonus tracks for the Smile Sessions as a sort of behind the scenes/in the studio peek. Smile Sessions is Smile as it was in '67, nothing was "digitally" added in. You can tell by how incomplete and rough some of the tracks sound, especially when comparing to Brian Wilson Presents Smile and hearing vocals and other instrument parts over songs that previously didn't have them.

Is this an actual quote? Amazing. I enjoy Smiley Smile but it's clearly the death knell of SMiLE and sort of a requiem as well. Very depressing and desolated sounding.

>What is recorded on the Smile Sessions are the arrangements as they were recorded in 1967
False.

Look it up.

>Smile Sessions is Smile as it was in '67, nothing was "digitally" added in
Wrong. Listen to Look, listen to Fire. There is more. Some songs didn't even exist then (Water).

Barnes who?

Wait you think Of Montreal are comparable to The Beach Boys? You realise Wilson's main contributions are all found in his progressive songwriting, whilst OM rarely use more than 5 chords in a song, right?

BB needed a manager. A manager would not have allowed Brian to shut out the rest of the beach Boys and the album would have been completed.

the coda for surfs up wasnt added until 1971

Then what is the purest most true to form version of Smile? Because it isn't fan remixes.