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hitomi is pretty funny when she's bullying others but she doesnt like being bullied herself

purest kpop on the planet

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YIKES
too ugly

Which one is the most popular?

the ideal korean beauty

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just like those people in my school they bully those people they can bully but when we bully them they are too sensitive and cry baby hate those shits

Hyewon is still a blackhole.
Even in the MV her choreo is out of sync.
She has 0 vocal ability and her "rApPiNg" is just toneless speaking. Her facial expressions are terrible and she needs to see a physiotherapist and speech pathologist for that.

But Minju, who previously faced similar criticism for being a visual with "no talent" has a far better sense of rhythm and movement.
And she actually tries extremly hard to improve that she is actually starting to pop on stage.

Yeonjun and Soobin

beomgyu is so cute

based thread. cant wait for izone to go on more variety shows

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you're looking for sorabada dot net my dude

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hideous

cheers, finna blast

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I'm gonna fucking kill you one day

pls no ban mods

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>the ideal korean beauty

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That guy in the back looks like kevin

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whos this chick

most likely only yujin,yena,sakura are the most appealing in variety show cuz they can take jokes and do serious shits

i don't see it
t. kevin's #1 fan

any seabro in

based hiichan
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>2. [+796, -49] There’s nothing special about her but she gets promoted so much.. ㅋ

if this version of Hiichan existed in IZ*ONE she would be the most entertaining part of their variety

Wondering if I should post the mail my yurigf sent today

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>tfw you know your group is relevant when they have sjws and lgbtq+ fans

i saw this facebook page that shares kpg memes and pictures

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i want to devour this little bunny..

>chaeyeon at the back
lmfao what the fuck is she doing

if the three japs are confident in their korean they will show their true selves like sakura shes slowly doing her shits

Hey friend, don't you wish to see more IZ*ONE variety shows??

kinda hot

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I don't think she's comfortable enough showing her real personality so she just seems boring and invisible.

Isnt that all of kpop by now because of dumb twitter teens

why the fuck chimpwon has hiichans trademark

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I want you to stop photoshopping shit onto my favorite IZ*ONE's mouths you motherfucker

Nako has the best Korean out of all of them but Nako doesn't talk much still
Sakura has good enough Korean to do solo vlives but Sakura is just more used to being an idol and doing that kind of stuff

I am not sure what you watched because she has been decent in keeping up with the choreo.

She's probably aware that her normal personality would get her into trouble in Korea

Minju is extremely bulliable in the most adorable way.
If she gains some self-esteem and learns how to take it without getting too hurt, she will be super popular in variety shows.

She's a real beauty with a nice voice and I can see her becoming the next it girl.

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lmao

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Minju gets bullied but it doesn't hurt her feelings
Minju is like a small woodland creature that becomes your friend because you feed it when you see it, she's cute and you want to protect her

is this kpop?

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bts used goods

Yujin has one of the brightest smiles in kpop

no bulli minjew

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Post KOREAN BUTTS

minju will just bow her head down when she gets bullied like she'll laugh it off

>when minju was doing the guerrilla performance promotion a fan said she was really pretty as she handed her a flyer and she blushed and started saying I'm not
I want to pat her head

sorry... T-T who's your fave izone?

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i want someone (a girl) to put something (their ass) on me (my face)

hiichan is the cutest
nako couldn't pull that off in a million years

She doesn't get hurt or the members won't tease her as much. She is more of a lack of confidence in her abilities. I won't be surprised if it was due to the hate she got post p48 finale.

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love her but this show is boring its all talking

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its a talk show what do you expect

what is it about 03 liners

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just took my bf to see a chelsea football game for the first time
he loved it

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you're thinking about ryujin user, yeji doesnt know bts

Minju is probably the kind of girl where if you praised her enough, she will suck your dick.

hello counselor is shit
they invite these young pure idols on and force them to listen to horror stories about disgusting old married perverts

How long until everyone has condoms?

>he loved it
So he didn't look at the pitch?

Hello Counselor is a terrible show if you want to have fun

Minjoo & Eunbi's episode had a little girl who was getting heavy opposition from her parents after she wanted to drop out of high school, the reason she wanted to drop out was to get certification to become a special needs teacher to help disabled people like her mentally challenged brother, who she regrets not helping enough in his life so far

everyone was crying

did you also take him to the gay dick buttsex rodeo because you're a faggot

>mom and dad fighting
>dad forces me to take paternity test
>my grandfather is the real father
>dad left
>mom is gonna move in with my grandfather
>now I have to get another job and find a new place
kpop for this feel

Honestly though who saw Yujin developing the way she is?
Wonyoung is the center, but Yujin always has the spotlight on her because of her personality and her infectious laugh/smile.
Yujin is hosting a show and was a guest on Yena's show.
She always takes the lead at some point doing stage appearances, and is probably the most appealing Izone to book as an MC/Guest/Co Host

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fapping while watching haseul being fucked by nig

snsd - yeojachingu

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tincel is that you? that would explain a lot

I don't think K-pop will help you, try another genre

LMAO

a lot of the weird stories aren't weird in Korea. Like the one where the dad was fondling his son, that's not weird in Korea. The extent of it is pushing it a bit but the general act itself is far from abnormal in Korea.

It's a coinflip between something really depressing that the person should probably see a real counselor for instead of a bunch of celebrities or something that's extremely weird to foreigners that's funny to Koreans.

from left to right 7/10 7/10 10/10 10/10 9/10

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did i read that right... you fucked your grandfather?

it's not your fault user

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Everybody does American collabs now?

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That shit's terrifying bro.

Soobin is such a c*mslut

Yujin was always Starship's ace. Wonyoung and the midget was thrown in as filler. Wonyoung winning center must have shocked the guys at Starship.

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god i can't wait for this phase to be over

plase notice me burger people

kpop is the newest market for currently established western artists to try and make money from now.
they know kpop has a significant following in the west and are trying to leech off of it because kpop fans are hyper loyal and will shill out for their idols

yeah i took him there right afterwards
wow it’s almost like you were there too

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fan death is still not as dumb as a religious mentally ill diabetic neet thinking that fucking a black tranny is the solution to his depression

Tae's video has more views than Blackpink’s teaser on twitter. Sad!

Check out @BTS_twt’s Tweet: twitter.com/BTS_twt/status/1113356436245950464?s=09

based twice still pure from the whites and blacks

wendy already collabed with ricky martin
it can only go lower from there

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history repeats itself keep that in mind
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>twitter video viewshitting

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link the hottest hello counselor

what the fuck

loona ft. mj

>Like the one where the dad was fondling his son, that's not weird in Korea
wtf

It used to be about minor spats or novelties like btob baldie, but then they cracked the code of viewbaiting with domestic violence and borderline scandal like trashy white daytime tv

There has been so many "western collabs" that I can't keep up anymore

>Blackpink with Dua Lipa
>BTS with Steve Aoki
>BTS with Nicki Minaj
>Wendy with John Legend
>Wendy with Ricky Martin
>CL with Black Eyed Peas for some reason
>CL with Method Man
>NCT, Lay with Jason Derulo
>Monsta X with Steve Aoki
>(G)I-DLE with Maidson Beer & Jaira Burns for K/DA
>IZ*ONE withJonas Blue
>Twice covered Jackson 5, I guess you could throw that in

which ones am I missing

>another day another armchair obsessed with blackpink

the memes write themselves

the boyz with beyonce soon

loona with grimes

delete this i'm being completely sincere

that was a fucking mess, the dad said it was white and cute so he couldnt stop...

Yenas show was great..wish yujin was casted as permanent member her show my little television sucks tho

kpop twitter had a huge meltdown over it but Koreans didn't bat an eye because it's not weird to them

The dad basically used to borderline jerk his son off for fun for like 5 to 10 minutes and everyone just laughed and said well he doesn't like it so maybe stop

>every artist is one foot in the grave
aigooo

>"Hey did you hear that Hyun-min has a huge cock?"
>"Must be his nigger genes"
>"Guys we need to find out first hand how big it really is"
>"12"

>Twice covered Jackson 5, I guess you could throw that in
covers don't count because kpops do western covers every day

Yeah a dad said on public tv that he plays with his son's privates up to 10 min at a time and the kid was only 4/5 but clearly hated the mention of it

It's better to watch the live recording of my little television
They try too hard with the editing of the raw footage

>ONCEs Are Angry At gugudan’s Sejeong For Imitating TWICE Momo’s Accent

>After revealing her face to the public, Kim Sung Joo, the host of the show, asked Sejeong to do voice impressions of other singers such as MAMAMOO‘s Hwasa, Lovelyz‘s Jiae and TWICE‘s Momo.

>It was her Momo impression the one who started a storm on social media. And that made Momo’s fans very upset.
>ONCEs believe that Sejeong mispronounced Momo’s lines to deliberately mock her Japanese accent and make the audience laugh.

>This controversy also crossed the border and left Japanese fans not too happy about what Sejeong did either.
>Some of the comments found in Japanese forums had harsh words for gugudan’s Sejeong like, “What an attention wh*re… using Momo to get attention… disgusting” and “I want to hear her speaking Japanese now…”

This cunt just killed Gugudan

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SuJu with Leslie Grace

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>“What an attention wh*re… using Momo to get attention… disgusting” and “I want to hear her speaking Japanese now…”
Gugudan will never go to Japan now thanks sejeong you attention whore

BTS ft Designer
RM ft Fall Out Boy
RM ft HONNE
RM ft Wale

The cl stuff was pretty old

I forgot that Mic Drop had that version

>onceniggers getting toasty about inane shit
>japs looking for any reason to hate gooks
same old same old

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>the kid was only 4/5
wtf I assumed they were talking about a baby. in what culture is that not a serious crime?

it was spot on though

>we know that momo is a shit singer and we're insecure about it so when our insecurities get brought to light we throw a shitfit

and thats the end of her career

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>Eric Nam, Tablo with Gallant.
I saw Eric perform this live and it was amazing.

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Gugudan wasnt looking good long term anyway

Korea
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lmao

Gugudan is probably done anyway, that last comeback did worse than anything before

doing an official cover for an ost for a movie is different form doing a youtube cover

EX Wanna One guy doing good!

#NUEST Minhyun "Universe" - 21:00 KST:

#5 Naver (=)
#16 Bugs (-2)
#24 Genie (-2)
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#MINHYUN #Universe

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shell be ok. ikon made fun of momo too

It's only a gray area in sk, apparently
Some gfriend members were there and looked highly uncomfortable

who

more nakos

that jackson five twice cover was the cringiest thing i've seen in kpop

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Chaewonbros, explain what this is, I thought she was pure

because it would be a lot different if it was a dad doing it to a daughter
if its a dad doing it to a son, because of Korea's whole "homosexuality is a myth" culture it's seen as something not even worth mentioning

[Girlschannel] Jnetz angry at Sejeong for imitating Momo


1. These Korean fuckers will never respect you, just go back to Japan.. Seriously, I pity Momo so much..
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2. These fuckers always make fun of her voice and accent.. poor Momorin... this isn't the first time.
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3. She doesn't need Korea.. go back to Japan, we will support you
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4. What an attention whore.. using Momo to get attention.. disgusting
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5. Ugly bitch.. her group is trash tier so she's trying to catch attention
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6. I want to hear her speaking Japanese now..
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7. Disgusting bitch..
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8. Can't Koreans die already
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9. I hate Korea.. Momo, leave Korea and stay in Japan..
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10. Momo tries her best to speak Korean, but these fuckers always make fun of her..
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11. I would feel humiliated.. this always happens.. Hirai Momo doesn't deserve this..
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12. That Sejung girl is seriously ugly.. looks like a pig
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13. They always make fun of Momo and other foreign idols.. let's make fun of Korean idols speaking Japanese next time
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The worst part is that he was doing that to his son (and kissing it) ever since he was a baby, the entire life of the kid

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jknetz seem more based than knetz

>japs getting toasty over one of the least vocally talented idols who happens to be from japan, getting lightly made fun of by a gook
omegafuckinglul
When will Japan ever stop acting like eternal victims?

>8. Can't Koreans die already [+609, -45]
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lmao jnetz angry they should bash sejeongs voice too she sounds like an old man with deep voice..

IZ*ONE sales (total up to day 3 so far) = 88 584
Chen sales (total up to day 3 so far) = 86 688

literally the ugliest nip

When does eunbi milking show start?

knetz must learn from jnetz on how to trashtalk

100k today it looks like if sales keep pace

it's only 10k so far today, 100k by Friday at worst

Me in the middle Btw

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already started and the dairy is almost depleted

please support the boyz

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>she doesn't need korea
>we'll support you come back to riceland
what the fuck is she going to do in japan?
she can't sing, she's not very funny on her own, and she can't host shows
literally what the fuck would she do if she went back to japan other than sit on the money that she already has and do some sort of cfs?
she needs to be in korea if she wants to be an idol

is that a huge success or still flop from IZONE?

nobody believes izone sales numbers

nah

why are these people into kpop in the first place

>13. They always make fun of Momo and other foreign idols.. let's make fun of Korean idols speaking Japanese next time
>+65
>-12
don't do it... my waifu doesn't speak Japanese well

knetz use sarcasm and shade unlike jnetz with their direct attack.

They only know momo exists because of the opportunity a korean company gave her

the album sold like 33k units yesterday I think? I think getting 20k isn't impossible today

she do JAVVVVVVVVVVV JJAAAVVV
JAV doesnt need that singing talent and dancing talent she just need to suck cock and get fucked
thats what that JNETZ are talking on SUPPORT

It took a week to cross 80k last time, it took until about noon today (day 3) for them to break 80k

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how does it feel being surrounded by uggos

post their best b-sides

No, just came up with that when cooking before.

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IZ*ONE Day 1
46790
Day 2
31640
Day 3 so far
10154

Color*IZ sold 150k copies on Hanteo, Heart*IZ is already the best day 1 selling gg album on that chart and has over half Color*IZ's sales already, 3 days into sales

I've always wondered if koreans habitually use sarcasm a lot more than maps, and if so, why

now post the digital

holy shit thats fast they have a great progress tho..still dont know why they people call them flop?

does momo choke too
omo

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IZ*ONE is just one hit single away from being a runaway success. They need JYP to give them Neomu Neoum 2.0

>This cunt just killed Gugudan
can't kill something that's already dead

being roundabout in everything is in their culture
you don't directly compliment people in Korea
you don't directly accept credit in Korea
you don't directly criticize in Korea

everything is done through roundabout methods

Because idol pop in japan is worse than kpop

fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you APOLOGIZE TO SALLY

ohhh koreans do boring style.. they should just get straight to the point and fucking fight with fist thats how we do during HS and College days

because of stagnant digital score

It’s honestly not like she insulted momo, I mean I can’t see her being devastated that someone did an impression of her, especially when momo’s voice is exaggerated at JYP’s request

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jyp will give neomu neomu 2.0 to produce x 101 instead since there's a jyp trainee there.

so digital has a huge impact than that physical sales?

Knetz are a lot wittier with their zingers than jnetz bc of the art of sarcasm

her impression was 100% the same as the real thing though

imagine that face being the last thing you see as guillotine drops

Momo herself knows she's a shit singer
Literally everyone who's heard momo sing knows she's a shit singer
Literally everyone knows the only reason momo is in twice is because of her dancing
pretending to be mad when Sejeong imitates Momo's shit singing is peak butthurtism

understandable

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i think a lot of asian countries do this t bh

physical = fandom
digital = everyone in Korea

digital takes priority over physical for moving up the ladder

Where the song charts is a decent indicator of how much the public knows about it and the album

we all like TxT now

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>not wanting to destroy other idols careers
winning is not enough, others have to fall user.

ooohhhh i see now why they always call thjem flop thanks user

It’s my only wish

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I still think about 'human uniqlo' at every mention of jennie lmao

why are stray kids so tryhard? they look like a highschool cover group

maybe if the japanese idol industry wasn’t so shitty girls like momo wouldn’t run off to korea.
even girls that have been in jpop groups for a long time are leaving for korea one by one.

Digitals are also more fickle. Because you do well digitally, doesn't mean your next song will do well digitally. Doing well physically, means your next album will do as well or better.

It doesn't help that the top 20 is filled with digital monsters right now

IZ*ONE is only pulling around 250k ULs, usually a popular song would be doing 2-3x as much

They will probably still be seen as a flop to Korea for a while

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momo cant even speak korean and japanese fluently maybe its true that she has a LOW IQ like she told in one of the shows that a flower vase was drop into her head and made her dumb

Tf? Were his eyes always that beady

they want to beat BTS when its even out of reach

she got pushed into a wall

some kid threw her head into a wall and gave her brain damage

they have the worst timing ever in comeback and debut lol why does mnet think they (izone) can beat top tier groups

Gooks who call Iz*One flops at this point are either mad nugushitters, mad right wingers, or mad ioishitters.
They've already established themselves as successful, Heart*Iz just got released in between two artists who have a much bigger outreach than they do and they're still in a very respectable position on the charts
Their sales are also doing well.

just armpits

is that really the reason why shes dumb? or just the family background were the family is all dumb

It's not bad at all for newer groups to perform on music shows alongside popular groups

Well apparently mental illness and licensed psychology is also a myth.
No wonder their suicide rate is so high.

IZ*ONE's comeback isn't dictated by other groups. It is dictated by their lifespan. Mnet gives zero fucks about what the public thinks about IZ*ONE. If every IZ*ONE album sees this much sales, they will be more than happy.

izone just want to go to war with those top tier groups
why it aint bad? so that they could get experience?

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experience and exposure. until you reach a certain level companies care more about getting their group's name out there than show wins, so deliberately promoting alongside bigger acts that will draw in more viewers is a common strategy.

>izone struggles with their only 200k listeners
>meanwhile both bol4 songs topping top 2 melon with 1,3m and 1m listeners.

but her body language is one of the best

At this point the entire country listens to BOL4, they're never going away

Hitting her head in childhood is the official stated reason. Shes one of the luckier ones when it comes to damaging head injuries. Sometimes someone becomes a different and worse person afterwards

Bol4 new song is just bad Some.

They'll come back during a dead period guaranteed next time
They wanted to come back during a stacked period to gain as much eyes as possible but it's just impossible

>Chen pulling almost a million ULs
>BOL4 pushing the upper half of the charts down
>Taeyeon making her meteoric rise back to the top of the charts after a year of being off them
>that one guy from Busker Busker
>N.Flying's viral song
>Baek Yerin's return to the charts
>Bom's return to the charts
>Mamamoo's comeback
>ITZY's debut

Way too much for them to deal with, but they will probably end up top 10 by the next comeback

I remember when BOL4 was nugu af

>actually falling the the meme backstory and the lolsodum persona

Izone's handlers arent pants on head retarded to think they can beat digimons or bts. But it doesnt hurt if someone tuning in for bts happens to see izone

I remember Galaxy blowing up and thinking why

then I listened and realized that it was pretty good

I wouldn't say it's a myth as much as its taboo. Korea knows what their society does to people mentally, but they never want to talk about it. They see high school kids killing themselves because they think they have no future if they're not in the top 1% in their school and they don't know what to do about it because they're a young country so they just don't talk about it.
>implying izone themselves dictate their comeback schedule
>implying that you can compare a 6 month old group, to bol4 who shit on literally every one every time they release music and have been doing so for years.

Word
Momo is actually a mensa member

No one believes izone numbers but nice try

It is true, but we love her anyway

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ioi had lots of visuals while izone has barely any
why is this?

Yup galaxy and something else

Tbf they make good songs but its all the same style always

nigger both of them were elected by popularity vote, they were picked mostly on what korea wants to see in a visual

>chanmi's youtube channel has eng subs
does she have any good content or is it just makeup tutorials

this. if you noticed bol4 strategy is to always comeback the same week or near bts/bp/twice. it works everytime too.

It's impossible to be genuinely low iq and an idol. Because of all the pr training they have to hold onto, while constantly learning new routines since iq is basically a learning multiplier

wtf momo really got pushed into a wall and suffered brain damage as a kid? poor girl

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Lmao ioi had a literal tranny in their group

yeah she said it in knowing bros i think or one of their vlive i forgot

>stopped buying albums and merch after being disgusted by how rich idols are
what do i do with my money now?

sponsor a poor one

support the boyz
they need it

Really? They're one of the few groups who seem to really enjoy the stage on the latest show champion

Buy nice clothes

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Buy dreamcatcher albums bc they could use the help

I wonder how IOI would have dealt with a climate like this
back during IOI's debut it was just Twice and Gfriend who were the big two of the new generation, Blackpink didn't debut yet, Mamamoo was finding their feet, Red Velvet were experimenting after Dumb Dumb's success and floundering somewhat (OTTN)
IZ*ONE find themselves trying to deal with a "big 5" who solidified years after IOI's heyday
maybe IZ*ONE just needs to go to Japan and take the easy route because their entry will be nowhere near as easy as IOI's

Nigger the fuck.
IOI literally only had Somi, Chaeyeon and Doyeon.
Kyulkyung is not a visual her face literally looks like its melting. The rest are uggo or average at best.

Iz*one, I can count at least 6 that would be considered fairly "high" tier visuals.

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Can I sponsor Hyewon

youtube.com/watch?v=Rs8eLSJ-HBo
their styling/look i guess
it looks like something monsta x would wear but they act like highschool freshmen (i dunno their exact age)

doyeon alone would mog the fuck out of any izone member

thanks, i think i support stray kids instead.

I remember people saying that one of these nights did okay for selling 34000 on Gaon

34000 would be a flop in 2019

Twice's numbers changed a lot

Why wouldn't you tryhard when you're literally performing haka in your choreo.

youtu.be/MQXLTw2Awhk

>disgusted by how rich idols are
>"i think i'll support a big 3 group"
idiota

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can I call this cultural appropriation

based doyCHAD

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Sorry, it was too low res.

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So basically solely on clothes and nothing about the actual performance? They do look young for their ages though, even for asians

momo hitting her head and becoming stupid because of it is a meme you absolute cretins
they said that so you feel pity for her instead recognizing that she is legitimately dumb for no other reason than simply being dumb

the fucking condom guy has got me so paranoid that i'm looking at hiichan at every pic just to make sure it's safe

if we spent less time talking about mogging, and more time hugging our fellow posters, kpg would be a better place

kys

WTF same everytime they post the group picture or a hiichan with it I always watch her fcking mouth

kisses y smooches

Depends on where you consider the line, it's not any specific haka routine or sequence used for important stuff

now that i think about it, bol4 is the peak innocent concept. it's on their name literally.

well of course the performance too
i swear bangchan looks like that fat star wars kid when he dances

guys what if all of us at kpg started training and debuted as a 12 member kpop group

are all stray kids members from rich families?

i'm gonna go solo

Bol4 on idol room was seriously great

People can change from hitting their head user, I know someone who was dropped on his head and he’s an idiot

I thought u were going to link to an actual stage because this is clearly a goofing off video

i'll be the center then

Felix and Chan are Aussies and you're exposed a lot to NZ culture through sport and travelling there.
In NZ you don't even have to be Maori to perform the haka.

It's about as cultural appropriating as Jason Mamoa doing it, and he's half white/hawaiian.
youtu.be/1vK166iSwQc

was it you

make it a boyz thread for my fellow good taste bros

No you idiot

>learning multiplier
I remember jordan peterson saying something like iq is just a test of how fast you can learn something new, but not particularly how well you do it in the future

But at the same time, something like learning Choreo isn't iq intensive because people with lower iq tend towards repetitive jobs like things like packing shelves, and learning a routine is extremely repetitive

2 of them are
Bang chan's parents used to be poor but got wealthy some time after he left for korea

so she just tell that story for the show only?

i don't follow gaypop but this just popped up on reddit or smth i don't remember

yes I would say so
either that or jyp told her to say that instead of admitting that she's stupid

aint all kpop idols come from rich families???

Ok, what does that have to do with anything

not bts

that's not really what he said (or even true) at all

i'm not gonna dig up a performance video for you and critique it

They try hard because they're almost completely self produced.
They compose and produce all their own songs, write their own lyrics, and create their own choreo.

I can imagine that performing something that's completely your own, compared to groups that's literally handed unoriginal purchased demos and choreo by 1million, would make you want to try a bit harder.

toast

...

not all

>create their own choreo.
oh so thats why it looks so bad

No, at least half are just regular middle class or in that barely 6 figures tier (with both parents income)
But wealthier families can easily afford lessons and accommodations for their kid, like in any creative pursuit