What the fuck was no wave's problem?

What the fuck was no wave's problem?

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It was the original soiboi response to punk.

>What the fuck was no wave's problem?
garbage new wave music in conjunction with the brutal collapse of hippy fantasies about peace and love

Punk had the pretense of overthrowing the rock establishment, playing music that was more deviant, uncompromising, and avant garde than what was acceptable.

No Wave called bullshit. The No Wavers pointed out that the punks talked a good talk, but in reality the Ramones, Blondie, The Dictators, Patti Smith, etc. were really just playing conventional 3 minute rock and pop songs, just like every other act since the 50s. The No Wavers said, let's take punk's artistic pretension seriously and make music that's REALLY avant garde. Lydia Lunch wanted to be the anti-Patti Smith, shrieking, and banging on her instruments to make sheets of noise. James Chance had been classically trained, but he rebelled against that by imitating James Brown and directing a band of complete non-musicians. Mars had no idea how to play their instruments, so they'd just make weird noises with their instruments until they came up with something interesting, then recorded it. DNA created their own musical language, a kind of musical cubism with each instrument portraying a different aspect of a certain idea or concept. The drums were untrained, the guitar was used percussively but was also influenced by Brazilian music (not that anyone could tell). Glenn Branca wanted his music to "fuck people up." Lizzy Mercier Descloux was into the Beat poets and the Velvet Underground, which brought her to New York, but she was also obsessed with Afro-Caribbean music, so she felt no loyalty to rock music. They'd all been inspired by Suicide's dismantling of the rock format, as well as Voidoids guitarist Robert Quine's Ornette Coleman-inspired free jazz guitar. I also wonder if they were aware of the krautrock groups like Can and Faust. I'm also curious about the connection between them and industrial (which was mostly based in the UK, Germany, Australia, and California at the time).

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but punk already is soi

No wave had a lot of problems. It's biggest one was probably Christgau.

>DNA created their own musical language, a kind of musical cubism with each instrument portraying a different aspect of a certain idea or concept
Elaborate.

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I dunno, but it was awesome.

who's the junkie in OPs pic?

Arto Lindsay from DNA, actually turned out to be a Bossa Nova artist

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YOU WANNA PLEASE CHRISTGAU
MAAAAAAAAN LET THAT SHIT DIIIEEE

AAAGGAGAAAAAAHH SKRONK SKRONK A ADJSJAVVAASAGGSGGGHHHH SKRONK SKRONK

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>implying dna isn't the most based noise band in existence

People like my dad were in the scene

The concept of cubism is that it shows all the different aspects or sides of the subjects at the same time. So, you're looking at the side of the subject, the front of them, and the back of them, all at the same time. This was basically the concept of DNA - all the musicians were playing to the same concept on each song, but completely in their own ways. So, they're not playing together. Instead, they're each playing their own version of the song, at the same time. I think the song Not Moving might be the clearest example of this. It's a great song, and the song climaxes with all the songs going into their own noisy frenzy at the same time, like layers.

>"aaguaguaguagaaagh GET OUT OF HERE.....agahaa GO FUCK YOURSELF"

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YOU TOUCH ME
AAAAA YOU TOUCH ME

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dirty edgy contrarian new yorkers decide to get pissed over punk and new wave so they make their own shitty genre
add a bunch of art thots and then you get a bunch of try hards fighting over them at the same time

don't talk shit about patti you fucking cunt

lol its called a 'theme'
go jazz yourself asshat

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punk is the soiboy response to dad rock

dad rock came after/with punk really
Punk is the soiboi response to garage rock

punk is garage rock for people who couldn't be arsed to learn how to play

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no it didn't you dipshit.

Yes, they played to a theme. That doesn't change the fact they were trying to apply cubism to music. I didn't just make that up, it's in liner notes and it's been repeated a number of times, you abrasive piece of shit

thank you

I'm a huge fan of Patti Smith and I don't like Lydia Lunch, but that doesn't change what no wave was.

punk cant be anti-patti
patti is punk and Land is 10 minutes long eat my dick

>cubism
le lol who cares

good post

>patti is punk
lol

I'm talking about no wave. Lydia Lunch literally said she wanted to be the anti-Patti Smith. jesus christ

thank you

quality

pretty spot on except

>James Chance had been classically trained, but he rebelled against that by imitating James Brown and directing a band of complete non-musicians.
James Chance surrounded himself with very proficient musicians and was picky with how he would form his bands.

>I also wonder if they were aware of the krautrock groups like Can and Faust
Their records took a long time to be issued in the States yet so it's unlikely they heard of them.

what dumb kid doesn't wann kil their idols
facts is still facts
and factually you have a little dick
enjoy your books

nerd

It was shit!

you're a gigantic faggot

youre a supernova galactic faggot overlord come to suck the earth into its dark rectal anus basement to skulk Wikipedia and check footnotes

HISTORY IS MINE

Fantastic post. Good to know some anons out there know their shit.

It's real biggest problem is that everyone in that scene was an insufferable asshat

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It's really crazy what happens when people actually talk about music and don't regurgitate the same 5 vaguely music related topics.

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