ITT: Your favorite album and your 8values results

>It's just a pure, disgusting perversion of Marxism.
sigh
all reactionaries are paper tigers

Why would anyone be stupid enough to prefer tradition over progress?

Like wtf? don't you want humanity to progress and move forward?

Shellac - At Action Park/Shellac - Terraform

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i'm not taking a 70 question test lol
i'm a socialist tho
fav album is wowee zowee

are you going to see avey on tour and if so do you wanna fight in the parking lot

The Wedding Present - Seamonsters

but sometimes it's:
The Ex - Catch My Shoe

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read lenin

hello comrade

hello reasonable moderate

REEEEEEEEEEEE

American Football

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But user they believe in liberty, not authoritarianism.

I actually have. I think he's a repulsive authoritarian.

Now it's your turn. Read Bookchin and Kropotkin.

BASED DUBS

>calls a libsoc a comrade and then calls a moderate conservative a “reasonable moderate”
not a real socialist
liberal fag

>implying leninism is not liberty in its purest sense
read lenin

both reactionaries
good luck ever achieving a functioning government for an extended period of time

Metallica - Kill 'em All

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exactly

Mr. Bond - A Nazi goes to Africa

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greetings, cletus
at least you like the best metallica album
cool, another winner

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>im a lowercase typing rich suburban poofter who calls everything i don't like reactionary
>i recently grew out of writing fanfiction about my sonic the hedgehog OC and got into marxism

Leninism is literally a nationalistic perversion of Marxism. It's also demonstrably imperialist, despite hypocritically ranting against imperialism.

I will admit, Soviet style communist dictatorships did last quite a while. They just had to control their populations and murder countless people to achieve that.

you're the same catposter in that RYM thread earlier today who admitted to "turning tankie this year" lmao just shut up you embarrassing kid

what is this incoherent gobbledegook?

lenin talked about nationalism a great deal, not that you would know that because you don’t know shit about the soviet union or marxist-leninism.

dude, where’s your argument?
i’ve been a socialist for about two years and recently woke up to marxism-leninism through reading and thinking. what’s your point?

@ the lenninist dude in here
where do you live that democratic socialism wouldn't be the best option for your nation in the immediate/near future

lol my family lived in the Soviet Union actually, fuckface. And again, Leninism is a disgusting perversion of Marxism. And what that other guy said is actually very simple, clear, and coherent, so it's unfortunate that you're too illiterate to understand it.

>70 fucking questions
who the fuck has the time and patience for this

>authoritarianism = nationalism!
words have meaning, user. lenin was not a nationalist; do you know what nationalism is?

From Filthy Tongue of Gods and Griots by Dälek
That's a nice album :)
Hey buddy, nice results.

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GKMC

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Bach - Mass in B minor
or
David Bowie - Ziggy Stardust

This is such a dumb meme.

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the united states
democratic socialism is a lot better than what we have but it’s still not great, and the voting record of most big name demsoc socialists are suspect.

>lol my family lived in the Soviet Union actually
yeah i’m sure
if anyone in your family got their shit kicked in i’m telling you right now it’s because they were reactionaries who more than likely deserved it.
>And what that other guy said is actually very simple, clear, and coherent, so it's unfortunate that you're too illiterate to understand it.
what he said was projection on top of projection, a reactionary is anybody who goes against marxism, leninism, marxism-leninism, hoxhaism, castroism, maoism etc, so i call it like i see it.
i mean really, sonic fan fiction and my typing style? just weird, objectively incoherent.

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Sparks - Indiscreet

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>demsoc socialists
*demsoc politicians
(automated atm machine)

Being as an Ocean - Dear G-d

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traditionalism is a dinosaur meme
>Type O Negative - World Coming Down

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also, it would help to know when your family grew up in the soviet union exactly, because a lot of external shit hit the USSR that hurt their economy (such as gorbachev’s capitalist economic reforms)

*a lot of external and internal shit, like gorbachev and economic sanctions

You're a moron. And my family wasn't persecuted. Many died fighting for the Soviet Union, because soldiers were expendable. The ones who survived simply faced worse and worse poverty.

You're a LARPing moron. I can't wait for you to defend Pol Pot and Kim Jong Un.

>who Just Don’t Know
You're going to half to execute everyone because that condescension isn't making you any allies.

>Many died fighting for the Soviet Union, because soldiers were expendable.
many died PROTECTING the soviet union, whether it was against the nazis or the mujahideen, or against the imperialist cunts that govern(ed) the united states, it’s totally natural to be at war when the entire capitalist world wants you dead, you stupid fuck.

that “expendable” bit is also completely ahistorical and sensationalist. your liberalism is showing, hardcore, buddy.

i said that centrists and social democrats would be re-educated, not executed.
research imperialism’s large history if you think everyone on my execution list doesn’t deserve it.

Radiohead - In Rainbows

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We're Only in It for the Money

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Based.

Blue Öyster Cult -- Agents of Fortune

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oh yeah, and
>pol pot
honestly i don’t know too much about pol pot, seems like a shitty version of mao
>kim jong un
i don’t trust that you know know jack shit about the DPRK for a second, libtard
are you going to tell me that the majority of malnutrition and outdated tech in the country isn’t the fault of economic sanctions?

Nujabes - Modal Soul

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The sanctions are UN sanctions laid on the country because it treats human life as expendable and commits horrible atrocities against prisoners and anyone who says anything bad about the government. Authoritarian socialists and communists are not as bad as Hitler, but they're second to Hitler levels of bad.

HAHA YOU are the stupid piece of shit, and I recommend you kill yourself. Genuinely.

I am not a liberal. I am a libertarian socialist. I'm definitely a syndicalist economically.

The issue with modern liberalism is that it excuses and even promotes violence by an oppressive system that can quite easily backslide into fascism.

The goal is that the firms need to be controlled by the workers democratically. Resources need to be distributed equitably. Capitalism will always work against that.

The issue with Soviet style "communism" is that it doesn't actually even try to give the workers control. Rather, the central party dictates how resources are distributed. It's dictated by the few favorited powerful people, thus facilitating as corrupt a system as any other authoritarian one.

The problem with modern liberalism is that it excuses a destructive system. The problem with Leninism is that it IS a destructive system. As Bakunin warned, the misused "dictatorship of the proletariat" phase will be co-opted by a corrupt elite that will refuse to ever give up power.

I call you a LARPer because that's what you are. You have no idea how destructive this ideology has been, and how disgustingly it mangles Marx's theories.

The Soviet troops were not responsibly deployed as protectors. They were treated like expendable, animated meat to wear down the enemy. They were treated like shit.

I'm talking about the real world, you're talking about a fantasy. I'm not a liberal, but I'll take a liberal over a power hungry, murderous Stalinist any day.

Please, tell me what you think of the Khmer Rouge.

>mfw first time i took this test i was a libertarian socialist but now each time i take it i end up more right than the previous

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>honestly i don’t know too much about pol pot, seems like a shitty version of mao
Holy fucking shit, you literally have a 75 IQ, don't you?

wrong pic fucking shit

les rallizes dénudés - double heads is my favourite album btw

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This meme doesn't work because you got the first axis backwards

Daft Punk - Discovery

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>because it treats human life as expendable
vague and not an argument, cute talking point straight out of cnn/fox news/MSNBC
>commits horrible atrocities against prisoners
can you tell me what most of those prisoners are in prison for exactly? show your work.
>anyone who says anything bad about the government.
the entire world wants them dead, have you ever spoken to an average conservative within the US? most i’ve spoken to want to straight up invade them guns blazing, so i don’t blame the DPRK for being as authoritarian and anti-american as they are.

>The issue with Soviet style "communism" is that it doesn't actually even try to give the workers control. Rather, the central party dictates how resources are distributed. It's dictated by the few favorited powerful people, thus facilitating as corrupt a system as any other authoritarian one.
this early into your post and you’ve already made an historical error, well done! the soviet union’s economy was governed by the working class, buddy, it was not a totalitarian dictatorship. once again you just prove how fucking little you know about the USSR; i suggest looking into archives of the state instead of getting second or third hand accounts like the stupid liberal you truly are.

>As Bakunin warned, the misused "dictatorship of the proletariat" phase will be co-opted by a corrupt elite that will refuse to ever give up power.
...without evidence. who are these corrupt elite? again, you have no fucking clue what cuba or the soviet union’s economies were like under their respective guides.

>The Soviet troops were not responsibly deployed as protectors. They were treated like expendable, animated meat to wear down the enemy. They were treated like shit.
[citation needed]
the gulag archipelago doesn’t count

>I'm not a liberal, but I'll take a liberal
the icing on the shitcake. folks, this is a free site, i’m not making this guy say anything. he’s not a liberal, but he’ll take one anyway! glorious.

listen man, i’m gonna be more honest with you than anyone’s ever been with you in your entire life: you are a liberal. just like that guy up there who said he’s a “left winger” but then went on to say that fascism is less retarded than leninism (unless that was you LMAO), you’re a liberal pussy.

As if American conservatives will ever control what the United States does militarily at any time in the near future. DPRK politics is paranoia as a political system. They hold public executions where they absolutely mutilate people's bodies in small towns in front of children to show them what will happen if they say bad things about the government in 2019. Great system, idiot.

>Please, tell me what you think of the Khmer Rouge.
again, i’d have to look more into it
unlike yourself, i’m man enough to admit when i don’t know something. nothing wrong with that.

IDLSIDGO - Earl Sweatshirt

So is the difference between Soc Lib and Lib Soc is that the market should be state owned vs heavily regulation?

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i don't think i have a favourite album

i will pick Always Outnumbered, Never Outgunned because Keith Flint passed away recently, but i don't have favourites, i consume music like food

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Centerist not as im on the middle on issues but i have large opinions on both sides

This Heat - Deceit or The Microphones - Mount Eerie

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>They hold public executions where they absolutely mutilate people's bodies in small towns in front of children to show them what will happen if they say bad things about the government in 2019.
where are you getting this from
this should be good

You're man enough to admit that you don't care about the most grotesque failing of your supposed ideology? You're a fucking child.

Defectors from the DPRK talk about this all the time. Look up some interviews with them.

I get the feeling you can't read, but there are plenty of good books on the subject.

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i’m aware of what went down in summary but not too much detail.

Well that's an oxymoron

Probably Galloping Through the Battle Ruins by Arghoslent right now

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>Barbara Demick is an American journalist. She was the Beijing bureau chief of the Los Angeles Times.
>She is also an occasional contributor to The New Yorker.
HAHAHAHAHAJAHAHAHA
listen here, you closet liberal, by and fucking large you should always take what an american who writes for a major liberal newspaper says with a grain of salt. you ever figure that maybe she and her superiors have plenty to gain by telling sensationalist lies or half-truths about the DPRK, yeah?

good fucking lord, man.

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It's actually not, but only because when the term "libertarian socialism" was prominent, both the words "libertarian" and "socialist" meant something different.

"Libertarian" is literally the antonym of the word "authoritarian." So "Libertarian" just referred to any anti-authoritarian ideology. It was actually used the most by the socialist labor movement, to specify that they were against the kind of authoritarianism promoted by Lenin.

"Socialism" also meant something different - it was about worker's control, rather than just government economic programs. Part of this could mean democratically elected firms.

youtube.com/watch?v=DyqUw0WYwoc
>Public executions are announced over loudspeakers
>anyone under 12 cannot watch, anyone over 12 must watch
>they hang you and then a firing squad shoots your corpse
>punishment for trying to escape three times is public execution
>punishment for stealing a piece of rope is public execution

1. Death Grips - The Money Store
2. The Beatles - Rubber Soul
3. Genesis - A Trick Of the Tail
4. Prince - 1999
5. Jeff Beckley - Grace

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1. defectors are often anonymous so it’s impossible to verify their information
2. a lot of defectors make fucking money from the stories they tell so why wouldn’t they be inherently biased?

theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/13/why-do-north-korean-defector-testimonies-so-often-fall-apart
r e a d

this guy gets the wall, enough said.

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I'm not a "closet liberal," I literally explained to you exactly what my ideas are. They're anti-capitalist. They're about workers controlling the firms.

You are literally an authoritarian nationalist. I am literally a communalist, by that term's strictest definition. You are so fucking stupid it's impressive.

A left-wing anarchist actually coined the term "libertarian" and it was ripped off by right-wing Americans who believe corporate tyranny is somehow different from or better than government tyranny.

>oh, of course they don't execute people for petty offenses in North Korea, user!
>but for saying that, I want to kill you.

>I'm not a "closet liberal," I literally explained to you exactly what my ideas are. They're anti-capitalist.
then stop talking and acting like one, and
>nationalist
stop using words you don’t know the meaning of

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good to see i have the same beliefs as like half this thread

anyway my fav album is pull my hair back-jessy lanza

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set yourself on fire

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You are, though. You're demonstrably a nationalist. Go back to school. Read more.

>>oh, of course they don't execute people for petty offenses in North Korea, user!
please pinpoint where and when i said this exactly

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Forgot favorite album, rn it’s seven + Mary by rainbow kitten surprise

what’s a nationalist, user?

He doesn't sound like a nationalist, he just sounds like he cultishly worships schizophrenic freakshows like Stalin and doesn't want to hear anyone say anything bad about his precious murderous paranoid dictator. Lenin's system was a failure because it allowed someone like Stalin to gain power in the first place.

City of Caterpillar

Comrades

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It's essentially promoting the interests of your nation-group, whether that's defined as your country, ethnicity, culture, etc. You are a nationalist because you promote violently nationalistic countries like North Korea, and you excuse the brutal treatment of Soviet soldiers by that government. The ironic thing is, you keep calling everyone else a reactionary, but you're by far the most reactionary person here.

extended comrades

What do the comrades here think of Andrew Yang?

>Lenin's system was a failure because it allowed someone like Stalin to gain power in the first place.
that’s stupid, you’re stupid. for all the good stalin brought to russia, i won’t deny that he was paranoid, not to mention a sly manipulator who in fact took plenty of underhanded but calculated steps to gain power; lenin was much smarter than stalin and i doubt that stalin would have gotten past him if lenin lived to see his position off (which he didn’t, and stalin took advantage of this. has nothing whatsoever to do with the ideology.)

North Korea is really the only nationalistic place he has spoken in support of. The USSR was not very nationalist, as it was a collective of nations. Stalin was a huge nationalist, but he pandered to more nationalistic strains of the public with his propaganda. Mao did the same. Those are issues of honesty with those two rulers, and they were very dishonest people. But their biggest problems lie in how they treated human life.

i never said i had a totally favorable opinion of the DPRK, now did i? the only thing i argues is that there’s plenty of lies and half-truths spread about the state; they aren’t even marxist-leninist nowadays. i still stand in solidarity with them against imperialism coming from any direction.
>The ironic thing is, you keep calling everyone else a reactionary, but you're by far the most reactionary person here.
(not that you know what that means)

I like the idea of UBI, but I don't like Yang, because he promotes UBI in place of other government programs.

I think UBI will result in at least some inflation and decreased buying power. So I worry about a scenario where people's buying power declines, but public healthcare and social security are weakened or axed.

That said, while he's not my candidate, I do think it's useful for him to bring in this once radical idea into mainstream dialogue.

Favorite Album: Peter Gabriel III: Melt
Favorite Movie: Troll 2

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*argued
fuck this phone

But the establishment of the position allowed Stalin to gain supreme power, which means the system had such a huge flaw that one bad person could cause its failure.

>all these socialists
based

favorite album is im in your mind fuzz

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never realized Yea Forums was so based

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1. the very fucking leader of the USSR died, which already gives stalin plenty of opportunity
2. he was a manipulator (no political system on the planet can do much about that) who began making friends friends with many of lenin’s closest allies. given the material conditions it’s not hard to figure out why and how stalin gained power
3. most people figured that trotsky was a hell of a lot worse than stalin because trotsky was already in a very high authoritative positions.

you know nothing about the soviet union. none of you fuckers do, evidently.

(i can’t type)

Pysically remove all commies
Pysically remove social democrats
Pysically remove all muslims
Pysically remove all left-liberals

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:^)

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Pic related for favorite album

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I'd like to see you try, capitalist pig

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that doesn’t sound very libertarian at all. either you lack commitment to your supposed authoritarianism or you’d crack under pressure and wouldn’t do shit if you were in power, given your results, puss-ass.

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Maybe Vladdy should have added a bit more forethought to his government offices. Oh well, too bad, so sad, the USSR became a series of degenerated workers' states ruled by the biggest piece of shit ever and it ruined communism in the eyes of western people for decades because everything they said about Stalin's abhorrent rule is true. Also Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's Gulag Archipelago series really did not make Stalin's USSR look too good internationally.

Let me as you a question. Do you believe the Holodomor is a Nazi conspiracy theory?

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t.

Libertarianism is property rights. It it thus my duty to remove all those seeking to destroy them.

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Is that you Barack

look at him go lol

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>Libertarianism is property rights
>Cringes in Proudhon

Holy shit, I'm not nearly as autistic as those guys, and I'd happily settle for a girl who looks like this. Sign me up.

Hopefully she doesn't get upset when I pull a fast one on her and drag her over to the syndicalists on /leftpol/ tho

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you will sell us the rope we hang you with, pig

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and so it will always be
Yea Forums will get there soon

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Bootlickers are the worst scum. - Me

YesLawd - Anderson Paak

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Is Yea Forums really going left? I don't vidya, but Yea Forums's culture is basically just a coherent version of Yea Forums, so if they're going left, that could say a lot about the site in general.

after Yea Forums we move to Yea Forums

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Yassssssss goys, I'm an enlightened centrist!!
>Mark Ruster - Forest Fuck

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>Bootlickers are the worst scum
>Liberalism

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The current state of videogame development studios are really showing what capitalism can do to ravage a specific marketplace and Yea Forums is affected by the likes of youtubers like Jim Sterling who recently has gone noticeably more socialist in his rhetoric against AAA development studios.
I wouldn't say it's a signal of change within the site's culture in itself since it is so relegated to that one hobby but since Yea Forums is so large, that political shift could instigate larger change after.

Freedom should be tantramount. Fuck you chain worshiping faggots. Governments and markets are tools not religions.

This is the same delusion the skinheads had.

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read marx

Chocolate & Cheese - Ween

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Already have.

King Crimson - Red
>inb4 boomer
im 21

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station to station

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lol@results (am Marxist-Leninist-Maoist)

Favorite album is Illmatic

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this thread is pretty interesting, I knew Yea Forums was one of the more left-leaning boards but not this strongly.

Busdriver- Temporary Forever

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we are nearing the end of capitalism my friend, the future is red and the pigs are afraid

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lol@executing anarchists

k, but Nazbols are pigs

So are commies.

you’re damn straight nigga
degenerates, all of them.

redpill me on maoism, seems like the most extreme/militant variation of ML.

I don't have a favorite album, but I'll say Alive in the East by Binker & Moses

hey i look like you

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autechre - amber

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Trout Mask Replica

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