KPOP GENERAL

sporcle.com/games/yeowool/lovelyz77

i miss oh my girl

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did they disband?

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thank you

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Let's have an actual discussion about the industry.
Did BTS "pave the way" or were they only able to be this successful because of attempts of the 2nd gen to break into the US market?
Some arguments say the the previous attempts were actually damaging to the kpop image. On the other hand kpop was already getting global attention before BTS even if it was seen just as a fad by the general public.

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new character tinny?

complete your favorite groups at the end, see how it goes

>7. [+16, -9] Girls on Nate love praising her and calling her pretty but she has the least presence in the group;; Her chin kind of juts out a bit so she's not that pretty and reality is that even men don't care that much for her...

sporcle.com/games/yeowool/lovelyz78
boomer version

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based
youtu.be/vPRonG87eKw

there she is

Ryujin...

Babysoul isn't it

Yuna is unironically the prettiest member

>13% got the max score
wiki using fucks

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Wony...

I used to really like bp, but I just realized how much of a negative impact Jennie's "lazy dancing" had on my perception of them.

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youtu.be/bLvPNhQ9s4Y

oh my lord

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>streamable.com/619o1
i love this
which group though?

Article: Lovelyz' Baby Soul takes the subway for transportation

Source: Mydaily via Nate

1. [+297, -17] I think most women on the subway are prettier than that girl

2. [+259, -12] ? I don't think anyone would recognize her anyway..

3. [+198, -15] Who planned this group? ㅋ How are all the members so average looking ㅋ You could make a group out of all the eliminated trainees of 'Produce 101' and come out with a prettier girl group than them

4. [+26, -3] Can't tell if it's the make that's making her look tacky or if that's just how she lacks... her face is busted

5. [+19, -2] Wow, she's an idol singer???????????????? Hmm, well, just asking..

6. [+15, -1] Her name is Baby Soul? Probably the most foolish name I've heard since Hero Jaejoong and U-Know Yunho...

7. [+12, -1] She's ugly

8. [+10, -0] ... ㅎ I think she needs to try a new make up style... what is up with that, especially her make up...

9. [+9, -0] She makes Girlfriend's Umji look like a goddess...

10. [+5, -1] So is she talented??? Her face is so average

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must be jennie

nice feet, ma'am

Tiandra Lee
1 month ago
I am a Muslim, I am happy to see hijab women there, this very brilliant concept, Loona i support you guys

chu uwu
6 days ago
It's honestly so heartbreaking to see such an amazing group ignored by Korea. This song promotes self empowerment whether female or male the whole message of the song is to spread your wings and fly like a butterfly no matter what the obstacle is. The fact that loona has never won ONE award with this comeback is disappointing.

Anyways orbits don't give up! for loona! for us let's make them big like they deserve!

H Xo
1 week ago
Loona were robbed, butterfly deserved a first win

Nasrul Zaffrey
1 week ago
Do you like LOONA?
Yes:Like
No:Comment

Spirit 365
1 week ago
Why this group doesn't have more attention than it already has I will never know. A girl group (rookie at that) who don't put up the stereotypical characters of sexy or cute and instead break the barriers of kpop culture by not straight on taking a theme is brave. With the right management and support, this group could be phenomenally massive globally no doubt about it

Louna
1 month ago
racism has left the chat

anna do
1 week ago
One girl from omegle told me to check out butterfly and I don’t regret I did it

the good old days when people were convinced Lovelyz were gonna make it

damn it feels good to be filipino

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Obsessed.

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lovelyz is still ahead of like 90% of girl groups

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Being famous but unrecognizable is living the dream

jennie...

wanna lick those legs

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that is one trashy plastic whore

mld is using you guys for money

filipino master race

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thats one dang good looking filipino

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disgrace

post fat oriental mammaries

eunji has the worst feet in kpop

nah they wont get money from us because were poor..most of the ph fans are once blinks army...those who listen to mmlnd dont even buy their albums lol

next person i see insulting ryujin im going to teleport to them while theyre sleeping and rape them

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they get money if the senators pay them high enough for a 1 night stand

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These noonas can get it

Same. That video took off the rose colored glasses I had on for them. Now I view them objectively and it isn't great.

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jokes on them. we don't have any money.

omo

Is that a promise?

My favorite idol is an absolute whore.

everglow. main girl singing is onda

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manny is running for president soon.

based arinbro

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do NOT insult my wife

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shes a high candidate for the next deepfake after yeji

everglow more like everhoes

not kpop

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Coachella will probably be a disaster but blinks will say otherwise unless they really get their shit together by then

damn, i love everglow now
hope they cover a beach boys song officially

pannnyyyy SNSD

yeji in the front...

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SHUT THE FUCK UP DO NOT ASSOCIATE HER WITH PORN

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Do we think Tiffany will make it in the US?

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4 of those girls could look good with some makeup and hair changes

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roast don't care 'yasqueenslay' even with GMA

Stop posting you fucking waifus for a second and let's talk about kpop for once you fucks.

the bodyguard fucks IU everynight

youtube.com/watch?v=MS10Zz49FHE
post um BANGERS

Doing fine so far. She won't be mega popular but she can find a sizeable audience

no but if she wants to try more power to her

no one cares about gaypop stupid fucking nigger roastie

chaeryoung spotted

a to the g to the u

You'd think they wisen up after that lazy video and put more effort into their stages but nope. GMA was even worse.

pweople wook at mwe and they twell mwe

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>nah money is the man. if you're poor you're gay unless you're tall. if you don't have a girlfriend you're gay. money, height and social stats are all that matters.
if you're poor mentally or literally involuntary (especially) homeless or living in buddies yards, then that whole lifestyle is an off put. gives a whole loser vibe, especially if it looks like you're chasing around desperately, but fucking people because yo got cash is crypto prostitution, and you'd be surprised to know how many of your friends are actually fake (it's good to not tell people you have cash, if you have cash btw) why would you wanna tell people you're rich? what'ya want assholes around you for?
niggers in bungalows and councils estates that are pleasing girls without cash, same with normal dudes and they're doing it because they got actual masculine traits weather it's being big/tall, muscular, active/fun/presence, or just genuinely not being passive and just simply not being a mug. just all goes back to the likes of the goblinas, muzzies, chavs and even irish gypsies i've mentioned above, and they're with nice girls while the lame middle class boys watch on, waiting to be providers in 8 years. on the other scale, I knew a lad who'd travel with his gf (now wiccan wife or some shit) in a big van while he'd be playing in local gigs. a fucking lunatic I met last year would be travelling spain with his pal and dog, and would bunk in hotels, pump cq middle class swiss girls, say he loves them, then drop em' on the pavement a week later

of course, having cash does give you a massive boost, but it's fake like. but if you don't care, then that's good on you, so go an earn cash and bang some hot instagram chicks. if you're ugly, short, or just not a winner or a bit passive, then I can't speak for people like you, but it must suck. go the money/cash route, or just stop thinking about girls

this

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yes she sounds cute, whats your point?

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let's be real here. psy paved the way.

They got successful due to a variety of factors. Stronger social media tools, lack of a western pop group the spotlight, public perception of kpop has been slowly growing over time, their music wasnt too weird for people. Whether this sticks long term is up for debate

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don't samefag roastie

He did work for sure but it was still just as a meme.

post nancy's dad

have sex

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There's something about moonbyul's face that looks weird to me... but I can't tell what it is

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which idol is this?

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jom dalla...

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It still exposed far more people to kpop despite meme status and this was before mass streaming campaigns were a thing

watching psy videos will put other kpop videos in people's recommendations. kpop would be as popular as jpop without psy.

BYUN BAEKHYUN

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NOOOOOOOOOO!

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fucking delete that right now
i cant believe i masturbated to that
i never want to remember that moment again

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Yeji has the prettiest eyes.

BTS paved the way, 2nd gen incursions were all failures and flops because they were incredibly tacky and not up to Western production and musical standards.

with seulgi's feet? don't mind if i do

nice and yikes at the same time

they were marketed towards the West, it didn't happen naturally like ratmys want to believe

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was cam chatting privately with an asian girl once, fucking cheap too, and i got her to stick a stethoscope up her ***. *****, and down her ***** and *******

>[2019년 3월 30일 방송]

Stray Kids . 펜타곤 . KARD . 마마무 . 모모랜드 . 박봄 . 다이아 . 정세운 . 트레이 . TOMORROW X TOGETHER . VAV . 에버글로우 . 공원소녀 . 드림노트 . 티버드

>에버글로우
niceu

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damn... reveluvs really are the biggest chads right now in kpop...

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Back again to say hello to EU sohyangbro and EUsohyangbro only

backhugs from jiheon

what's with the bee gees clothes on the right?

that shit's cool as fuck

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Can you really say they paved the way if they are the only ones walking that way? Other groups are still failing, their success is huge but if you look at blackpink as a example kpop is still a joke for the general public. I agree with this user They were the right group at the right time and only have that opportunity because of the 2nd gen already creating a niche audience around the world.

>piaget

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>worldwide handsome
*inhales* BAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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'2nd gen' only if you count psy

ugly :\

What did MBC mean by this?
youtu.be/vPBFNUsgQqU

youtube.com/watch?v=67jSYCSrnE4
SOTY

is that the equivalent of Yves in gaypop?

I want to bang seulgi

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this alot of gook only production with cringey concepts/sounds that only worked in asia

also this, western pop has gone to shit mostly and hiphop killed itself

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>jap
I don't think so

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wait who is the white guy?

wow I dislike señorita like 20% less now

>your country
>will there ever be a kpop sensation invasion

lithuania
most likely not

That's pretty cool, i want to see other vidoes like that, like "What if la vie en rose was a CLC song".

this kind of like plastic love, exposure and algorithm

don't reply to me with that uggo

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mexico
already is, and keeps growing

>ywn be fed cake by wendy
why go on

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What about this?

youtube.com/watch?v=R3QA0E7pKAk

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what if PEPE was a CLC song?

biting her nose..

>what if
LMAO

omoooooooooooooooo

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>all those gooks commenting
>white people likes us!

all that inferiority complex...

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>this alot of gook only production with cringey concepts/sounds that only worked in asia
it's not korean production that is bad
My theory is that when we go back and time, the likes of kpop was one of the last great things in world pop because it appealled to the edgy fuckers of the time,today with with a cloud of western and japanese producers and less time on production, people don't need these kinds of songs to feel connected anymore.so if we want to revive genuine kpop we need producer bold and clever enough to lead with with some amazing, original and rightly made catchy tunes,and I can't see swedish, japanese, american and french producers doing this shit, the result is repetitive corny shit, and it all (that goes for a lot kpop right now = nugu) sound like western dance/dancepop and trap songs from only 3+ years ago. I reckon if there's a sudden shift of music change, I think we can revive, but only mainly korean producers and maybe some black american, british, and caribbean producers can put this tough attitude on an album to revive and drive kpop pop to thrive

>why go on
there is no reason

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nippany

ha ha yeah. i hate my own culture so i obsess over korean culture.

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>8. [+9, -0] If you've tried this hard and still haven't made it, you just weren't meant to make it. Sometimes giving up fair and square takes bravery too.

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>your country
us
>will there ever be a kpop sensation invasion
the gooks are really trying but they're too manufactured to appeal to any self-respecting normie

applies to every group that is not itzy

Tiffany SNSD

Clc?

>passive aggressive like a little bitch
back to twitter roastie

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yeah this is the best way to put it. They started getting traction in the western mainstream because media orgs noticed that they had a lot of rabid fans on social media and they wanted those clicks and views for themselves. BBMAs and AMAs jumped on this.
BTS gaining those fans in the first place was due to kpop already being something of a known entity to westerners so 2nd gen absolutely had something to do with it. Of course they have gained some new fans since they were on American tv but I don't think its all that many.

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3rd gen SM uses alot of western producers tho
youtube.com/watch?v=DGtL1SK1bx4

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>normie
>self-respecting

wewlad

LOONA.

fan

why aint you guys posting pretty feet no more

lol the ball

how many teeth is daisy missing?

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we are CLC go

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women just want babies
unless they're lesbians

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it's so easy to make it as a boy group.

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have a collection of tzuyu, jennie, jisoo, jihyo, nakyung, and eunseo feet, but anons didn't want me to deliver

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hapa babies

On twitter you can see a bunch of hardcore armys that actually hate kpop, it's a pretty strange thing to see and understand.

this is not what men want

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hyewon so fucking cute

Obsessed.

philippines
YES

>tiny hands
twitter.com/ksmwings/status/1111259249533952000?s=21

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Why aren’t their more Kard style mixed gender groups? I know they aren’t super successful but its different and gets views just based off their concept alone.

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what are you talking about?

BTS are just coasting on the real work put in by SNSD, Psy, 2NE1, and Big Bang

asian women are for sex not reproduction

momo
mina
tzuyu
------------
nayeon
sana
------------
cub
jihyo
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jeongyeon
dubu

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my first waifu

isn't this true with any group that gets too large and then people struggle for control

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For me, it's Jo Ha Seul

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>jihyo
>eunseo
i'm listening

Bts' media presence was no joke. I had stopped following kpop years ago and still managed to hear about them through various outlets that had nothing to do with kpop

post her feet

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and KARA

>tzuyu
time to start posting user

kara is only popular in japan. they're not even that popular in korea.

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This is probably the right answer

who does this appeal to?
girl crush - teen girls
boy groups - teen girls
pure pop - everyone except roasts

ITZY - Gas Safety Song

actually never met a dude who's into taylor swift unless it's some autist who crawled out from /pol/. most dudes seem to like ariana grande, demi lovato, dua lipa, cheryl cole or some shit

need ahin

All 10s

SNSD, Psy, 2NE1, and Big Bang were just coasting on the real work by HOT, Sechkies, Seotaiji, SES and TVXQ

>silent jisoo poster
showdown with silent arinchad when?

Western BTS fans that hate kpop and hate the industry, it's like saying you hate all niggers but kanye is god. Maybe kanye is not the best example but i don't know any other popular black musical right now.

I don't know of any other fandom like this but i don't doubt it.

this but cameltoes

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please stop posting this goblina

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she was once popular among boomers in their late 20s

>If you don't like a bitch with an ass then you ain't got shit (hehe)
-lil wayne

but worth it

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They will never let Felix live this down.

anyone else feel like chewing on her ear..?

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vlive.tv/video/106044

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this is how you get an STD

NO LEAVE HER ALONE

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Are you the nose guy?

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everyone i know likes ariana grande. i never heard anyone mentioning taylor swift. i thought she was only popular with rednecks.

worth it

her face is too tempting..
yes..

If Jesus didn't want us to fuck plastic korean females of not male gender and of all ages he wouldn't make them appealing.
As the bible says, God created all creatures on Earth for the White Man and Sons of Adam to use however they want.
So it is written.

ready to anal rape

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>ariana grande, demi lovato, dua lipa, cheryl cole
did you miss the white part of that

Why do people want to vore yeji?

fuck off??

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Not really. Those groups appealed to kpop fans and only made people kpop fans rather than dedicated to those groups
.
BTS has a more general appeal without necessarily making the western listeners kpop fans.
I'd wager you could ask every army in the west if they listen to groups other than bts and most would say no.

Those groups you listed were treated like a meme. BTS is treated as a trend.

>musical
Musician*
Holy shit i need i need sleep.

dtna

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>he wouldn't make them appealing
that was the plastic surgeon, not god

Itzy in Japan right now...most likely going to Twice Tokyo dome concert

Who guided surgeon's hand?

they don’t call him felix anymore, they just call him tiny hands

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>Buffalo Bill.

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the surgeon

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she has a very tantalising face..
who is buffalo bill?

The Surgeon of the Universe

>Those groups you listed were treated like a meme. BTS is treated as a trend.
lmao

yes

I don't think 2nd gen groups going to america first did much for BTS. Most fans are zoomers and I doubt they even knew about SNSD going to the Letterman Show or how the Wonder Girls were touring with that disney band. I believe it has to do more with luck, social media and the boyband place being empty. The only act I can see that it had a clear impact was PSY for obvious reasons.

STOP

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i thought felix was a chad. very embarrassing

The western media only promoted BTS because of kpop fans, fans that where only there because of the older groups.

her belly looks soft and tender in that picture as well..

Only with Vernon.

>what is nuance

not really, if bts fan were comprised of kpop fans there would be more support for more groups

It's the kpop community that made bts big in the west. This kpop community grew because of the 2nd gen.

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Their impact was more in what not to do than what groups should do

>who is buffalo bill?
Silence of the Lambs you god damn serial killer.

i have never killed anyone.

i think one direction brought boy groups back to the global scene and bts was able to improve on them at the perfect time

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Who has been telling such lies? He is one of their main succbois.

depends on the day dbh

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He can wrap his tiny hands around my deck of cards anytime. Playing poker with him and the rest of Stray Kids would be fun.

Not all fans of course but at the start it was the kpop fans promoting kpop in general that made the western media pay attention to the kpop industry.

who you quoting there?

>one direction

STRAIGHT TO HELL FAGGOT

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wait, is't the kpop industry run by the kgov? because of so, then that mean both kpop and the rest of the pop around the world are all linked and indirectly owed by the same people

there is more support for other groups. ateez wouldn't be able to tour without bts.

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it's run by loona

people heard gee and it was nu-jpop for a minute, only weebs liked it before koreaboos appeared

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Only got 95%, I missed DIA and Weki Meki

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I want to FUCK Chaeyeon