How can I enjoy this masterpiece now when I know the people who made it are satanic sex traffickers?

> her own texts contradict her saying Ugly Boy was written specifically about her

> her own texts contradict her saying he said he wouldn't cum inside

> her own texts show she was consenting and allowing him to continue

> her own texts show that the magick he's talking about comes from Buddhism

> her own texts show that he never said anything about her looking like 16, and that his mentioning of daddy is a fetish

> her own texts take several things out of context to fit her narrative and timeline despite being factually incorrect.

That really is a wewlad

Ew i really regret the truth now.

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> her own texts contain such little actual evidence she had to pad the video with irrelevant gossip that has nothing to do with any of her accusations.

Thanks for reminding me.

i have no steak in either side of this but it seems to me that she's mentally ill more than anything. her talking about how ugly boy was written about her despite ninja never saying that and then freaking out about ninja hiring dancers for a song comes off more as apophenia then evidence of abuse. her proof is pretty flimsy.

Actually it kind of looks like they coerced her unwitting participation in some kind of sex magick ritual -- because she's a "rainbow girl" -- that involved giving her an amateur tattoo, raping her on shrooms, and then requesting she help Ninja "gush," in order to unlock a secret door and write the track Ugly Boy (or something), before leading her to believe the song is related to her and then cucking her by conspicuously omitting her from the video.

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What kind of virgin does it take to misconstrue “gush” as anything but he wants to nut on her

>He hasn't unlocked his hidden doors yet.

The rainbow girl and plain girl thing comes from a Buddhist book. Both Ninja and Zheani are very clearly into esoteric magic, why do you only care about Ninja? Zheani knew what he was talking about and was agreeing with and encouraging him. That's not what someone who is abused does. She was willing to get the tattoo, the shrooms part has literally no proof besides him saying 'wilderness', and she texted a key to him indicating she was letting him 'gush'.

Ugly Boy wasn't written about her. He talks about having the motivation to finish it, but not about it being written for/about her. He's not omitting her from the video if she had no place in the video to begin with. She's not that important and never was.

Kind of hard to be complicit in a songwriting ritual to cuck you when you're only notified it was a ritual afterwards.
He clearly insinuated that she was part of the inspiration for the song and had some "magic" import to his ability to finish it.
At some point we're both just saying the same thing.
>Both Ninja and Zheani are very clearly into esoteric magic, why do you only care about Ninja?
Because Zheani is honest about it. Yolandi wasn't. Probably because she doesn't want to give away the recipe for their zany tunes.

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It's pretty hard to perform a Satanist ritual when you're only notified that's what you're doing after the fact.

There is a pretty large distinction between a song being written about you, and you providing the motivation to finish a song.

For example, I'm writing a song called 'user is a dumbass'. I didn't write it specifically about you, but your comments have provided me the impetus to try and finish it. That doesn't mean that 'user is a dumbass' is about you, it means you helped push me to complete writing it.

>Because Zheani is honest about it.
Mate are you pulling my leg? The whole point of the porn pics that were posted the other day prove that isn't true. She's been potraying herself as a naive and innocent nymph who had no idea what was going on, and was completely ignorant to that kind of stuff. But from those pictures, it shows that she had a secret Snapchat specifically for Esoteric Magic Sex Rituals, which is what she accused Die Antwoord of doing. Why would she keep that a secret? It's because, again, her whole thing is taking things out of context and not telling the full story to suit her narrative. She has a reputation for doing just that in Australia.

Yolandi said that they were Buddhist, which is consistent with the Rainbow Girl Plain Girl shit that's from a Buddhist book Ninja recommended in 2003.

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>She's been potraying herself as a naive and innocent nymph who had no idea what was going on
She has an instagram with 82,000 followers where she posts about being a "witch" and her ass is all over it.
Providing a spooky lewds service to help people perform rituals is not the same as a 39-year-old celebrity abusing a 20-year-old fan as part of a ritual without her knowledge. I don't care if they're in the same sex cult or not.

It's entirely plausible that her experience with Die Antwoord headfucked her into doing the spooky lewds service, just by the way.

Have you seen the pictures and videos? It's more than just spooky lewds or witch girl aesthetic that she markets herself as.
It's her rubbing her own period blood on her naked body while arching backwards like a crab and screaming naked into the ocean. There's artistic nudes on her public Instagram, sure, but no where near that level.

I'm not saying that what Ninja did wasn't creepy, but what it implicitly wasn't is illegal. Frankly, there's still no verification on the majority of her claims, despite two weeks of time, a video, and 90+ screenshots.

You're doing the exact thing she's doing to make herself look like the wounded party; infantilizing her and removing agency from her actions. She wasn't a child, nor was she unaware of the fact that the reason Ninja contacted her was to fuck. She was 20 years old, that's an adult in every country on Earth. If you want to treat her like a mentally handicapped idiot, then don't be surprised when the rest of us view her as one.

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It's not like she was on drugs when he was talking to her or anything.

And we're looping back around to my first comment, lmao.

Zheani implies in the video that she was drugged and in South Africa within a really short period of time, as in, not enough for the drugs to wear off. However, she was drugged on July 25th 2013, and didn't actually fly to South Africa until the 16th of August.

She's muddying the context to make it seem like Ninja took advantage of her being drugged, when that's factually not the case.

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Again, basically one party made a claim, the other party denied the entire claim, and now that the first party has presented substantial evidence, we're getting into the nitty gritty. If Die Antwoord and their shills wanted to get into the nitty gritty, the time to do that was when she initially made the claim, before they decided to lie about it instead.

If you're on drugs and someone feeds you crazy bullshit that has repercussions later (e.g. you're roped into a trip somewhere because a celebrity told you you're the chosen one), it's not really all that dishonest to suggest the drugs were a contributing factor.

Is this what Eminem meant when he said, "I'd rather hear 'em say "Die N-word" than Die Antwoord"?

bruh
Were not getting into the nitty gritty you fuckwit. We're not getting into Zheani telling a verifiable lie about something to make Ninja look worse than he actually is. Are you seriously so bias as to dismiss that? This isn't a matter of he said she said, it's a matter of one party lying about something directly to bolster her story. If you're going to ignore that then you're not looking at this in good faith.

Plus, people mentioned this exact thing the day the fucking video came out. I'm not even the 15th person to say it on this website specifically.
I'm not even a Die Antwoord fan, this is just such a glaring lie that it's indefensible.

And again, the drugs lasted one night. They had spoken before she was on drugs about coming to South Africa, she had a whole month to plan the trip and think about it and she spoke pretty positively on her tumblr about it when she got back. So unless you're telling me that Ninja either consistently had her drugged, or temporarily brainwashed for several years, then you're talking out of your ass.

I would tell you drugs were a contributing factor if this had all happened within a week, but it didn't, it happened over several months. Like I said before, if you want to treat her like a mentally handicapped idiot, then don't be surprised when the rest of us view her as one.

I can't believe Zheani even has a defense force; she is and was an adult, and her own texts show she was complicit at the time literally nothing illegal is remotely suggested within her own evidence

>We're not getting into Zheani telling a verifiable lie
Well I'm glad we agree because the rest of her story seems to be very well-evidenced, Die Antwoord are the ones who tried to shut her up with letters from Meek Mill's celebrity lawyer so they could lie about the entire incident, and I think it's reasonable to give her the benefit of a doubt that she honestly feels like the drugs clouded her judgment. I agree it would be nice to know where they came from and why Ninja was so interested in talking to her about it. It was 2.5 weeks.

Fucking hell, made a typo there, clearly. Thanks for pointing it out. It should be:

>Were not getting into the nitty gritty you fuckwit. We're getting into Zheani telling a verifiable lie about something to make Ninja look worse than he actually is.

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and again, what part of her story is well evidenced?

> He never said she looked like 16
> He never drugged her or took advantage of her drugged state
> He never said he wrote Ugly Boy specifically about her
> The story about the wilderness has zero evidence
> The story about the back up dancers is Zheani's speculation, and there's no actual proof the reason he hired them was to spite her
> He never said anything about the ritual being done to make their music successful
> He never trafficked her to Africa, she came of her own volition

The texts she's posted so far show that they had a weird, but consensual relationship with kinky sex for a few months. Nothing even remotely close to what she's suggesting.

The didn't hire a lawyer to 'shut her up'. They hired a lawyer because someone is calling them Satanic Pedophile Sex Traffickers, which can have a pretty detrimental effect on their reputation. Defamation is a thing. Just because you don't understand how law and accusations work doesn't mean Die Antwoord is trying to silence her.
But if you want to make that argument, Zheani has also attempted to intimidate people into being quiet through use of legal methods. She's forwarded a bunch of random reddit users IP addresses to the Cybercrimes division in Australia. Again, she's a hypocrite at best here.

The only thing Yolandi has lied about so far is the amount of time she was there (4 days instead of 8).
It's not reasonable to give someone the benifit of the doubt when they still haven't actually proven anything they've said. Saying someone is a Satanic Pedophile Sex Trafficker isn't something that you just assume to be true be default, you water brain. Use what few synapses you have left and think.

The drugs didn't cloud her judgement because, again, she had several weeks at least to think about it. No drug impairs you like that for more than a day.

Her language in the texts about dosages implies she took the drugs herself, not that she was drugged.

Lol I like how the charges against him are more severe because she slandered him and posted their private sexts publicly first so it's technically "revenge porn."

I believe the revenge porn is in question is the nude selfies Ninja sent to his Hollywood friends that Yolandi tried to lie about when she was lying about being Buddhist and lying about Ninja having subjected Zheani to a ritual.

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It's deformation, idiot.

It's spelled differently in different countries. Defamation is the standard way, though. Dumb bogan cunt.

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Yes I'm well aware that the terms linguistically converged in some places and not others, but we're talking about a specific law in a specific place so let's be precise.

The legal concept is the same regardless of the spelling, you're just pedantic

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