Am I the only one who isn't bothered by the fact she's an industry plant, but by how she DENIES being one?
There's nothing wrong with being a sheltered suburban white girl. But Billie remains stuck in the mindset of a sheltered suburban white girl (spoiled, immature, treats life as a joke) all while LARPing as someone deeply socially conscious who "truly understands" the struggles of the dispossessed. Forget being called "the zoomer Kate Bush" - by the way publications write about her you'd think she's the zoomer Joan Baez. Why the fuck did it take friendships with woke rappers in order to get her to be aware of real-world shit when she grew up in a gentrification cesspool and was surrounded by literal race-based and class-based human displacements? And then she claims she "grew up poor" in interviews despite her parents' long lists of actor credits? Her whole image is beyond contrived.
I'm willing to throw Fantano a bone and agree whether or not she's a plant what matters at the end of the day is the quality of her music. Though it's still cringey how she's portrayed as some deep and profound voice-of-the-generation when nearly everything musically she's put out so far has been bland, boring, and virtually substanceless.
>says she grew up poor >grew up in a stable, affluent family >larps about her background and values on her music >surrounds herself with ""woke"" musicians so she's the zoomer bob dylan then
I'd agree but there's no way in hell Billie could write something as good as Bob.
Oliver Edwards
You posted this exact same thing yesterday, delete this thread then kill yourself faggot.
Luke Morales
RENT FREE INCEL
Isaac Wright
i was just kidding either way. i've legit never heard a single thing that billie eilish has done.
Jace Barnes
"industry plant" isn't a new thing. the most popular pop artists are often created by record labels.
Connor Gonzalez
Who the fuck cares about industry plants. Some of the greats have been plants, Kate Bush, the Beach Boys. The list goes on
Lucas Gonzalez
Completely agree, but what irks me about Billie is how she's a very obvious label creation (signed after one song, no other musical experience except what her label has railroaded) yet she covers her ass constantly in interviews and portrays herself as "counter-cultural" and "deep" and whatnot. It's layers upon layers of cringe.
yeah but that’s not the issue beyonce grew up upper-middle class lt maybe even lower end of the upper class and has a father in the industry who set her up with destiny’s child and managed her solo career as well, but nobody gives her shit about it because she isn’t running around telling people otherwise it’s not the so-called privileged upbringings or privileged connections that sours people, it’s the blatant dishonesty about it
>She's not a plant! >She's not a plant! >She's not a plant! >Okay, fine. She's a plant, but who really cares? The shills are shifting goalposts lmao
Matthew Barnes
Fagtano in a nutshell.
Kevin Smith
>friendships with woke rappers >”friendships”
Caleb Nelson
afaik kate has never denied being a rich girl. she even said something to the effect of "i write songs about people who are more interesting than i am." so doesn't that go against the idea of being a plant, pretending to come from humble beginnings?
Adrian Scott
Jesus she's fugly
Alexander Edwards
Rich people make music. Rarely is it poor people. The difference is an "industry plant" doesn't make good music. That's it. Every artist is full of shit and has some false narrative propping everything up, if the music is good enough most people don't care. Get off this whole "real honest art" nonsense that never existed. Enjoy the show or don't.
Samuel Russell
It’s not the fact that she’s rich, it’s the fact she has a rich girl’s mentality all while claiming to be socially conscious.
Aaron Mitchell
>she has a rich girl’s mentality all while claiming to be socially conscious. That's every "socially conscious" famous person under the sun. Are you really that gullible?
Angel Martinez
Billie never claimed to be socially conscious. She makes pop music for teenage girls, that’s literally it. She doesn’t sing about politics or feminism or any of that shit.
Alexander Clark
being socially conscious doesn't mean you represent everybody.
Gabriel Cruz
>real honest art doesnt exist, nor has it ever existed aw dude what fucking dimension do you live in where this is true? i get that you want to defend billie eilish (although for the life of my i dont know why) but there's no need to just fucking lie like that.
Anthony Jackson
She claims to be “raising awareness” about teen depression, if you consider that to have a political/social edge.
Jonathan Scott
All music is filtered to you through some mechanism of marketing. Stop kidding yourself. Billie sucks and dresses like a fucking clown, but don't kid yourself that your fotm indie isn't just as corporate/pre-meditated.
Nolan Nguyen
You can’t feel sorry for parents who spend $250 on tickets without doing their research first.
Noah Bailey
Publications write about her like she’s a fucking wise sage. “Oh look at how SELF AWARE Billie is for her age!!!” It’s cringe especially if you watch her interviews where she acts really, really childish and dumb.
Thomas Hernandez
Not him, but I consider that to be an absolutely meaningless statement, as are most things said by people trying to "raise social awareness" which almost always has nothing to do with the individual on their soapbox changing their own behavior.
Elijah Young
X was so woke he beat his pregnant gf and threatened to rape her with a bbq fork because she was obviously Illuminati.
Leo Wright
Billie isn’t even depressed. She just uses it to sell records.
Luke Flores
No shit. And whoever isn't really an environmentalist, they just use it to sell records. And Bono isn't really a humanitarian he just uses it to sell records. This shit is all clear as day. Why people buy the narratives is beyond me.
Michael Jones
Thats the definition of industry plant op, a lot of musicians have connections, but some of them pretend they come from an independent background, those are the ones the term refers to
Jose Thompson
Yes
Nicholas Hill
>Bitches be bopping it, bow down and popping it >Dropping it in her esophagus >She get so nasty, in public she classy >Perhaps she is able to swallow it >Girl, I can make you a star >Then I put her ass on Apollo, bitch
Agreed but Billie is especially bad in this case given her whole appeal is that she's "DIY" and "wise beyond her years" when her family's industry connections are the only reason she's signed, and her actor/musician brother pens all her lyrics, meaning those "deeply wise words" are not hers.
James Edwards
thats why he prefaced it with "the way publications write about her you'd think she's the ___ ___ ___"
Ryder Flores
And her clout on social media arguably overshadows her actual music.
Judging from what happens to nearly all industry plants in recent years, Billie will fall off within a year. I don't see how she'll last all that long as an artist.
Joshua Morales
>Part of the industry plant game is denying that you are one. This game has been around for decades, can't be mad about that >Don't really care for Billie's music, pretty mediocre >It's better then most top 40 pop/rap thrash >Billie is way up the charts, mediocre mainstream music is making a comeback >Perhaps this opens the door to better mainstream music
Are the Jews finally doing something good here?
Nathaniel Torres
I only listened to a few of her songs but they were pretty good
I really don't mind plants, nor artists denying to be one,
What i DO mind is that whenever Radio Stations/Streaming Platforms/Critics are praising her music, i genuinely can't figure out if they really DO like her music, or if it's the payola talking
This layer of fakeness makes me enjoy her artistry less
Charles Morgan
Keep it that way for your own sake
Isaiah Gutierrez
Autism
Grayson Peterson
It's not even "payola" anymore as much as it is radio stations and streaming platforms are all owned and controlled by monopolies which do business with each other. I agree she's way overrated and I hope no one keeps falling for her "I'm such a DEEP and POETIC girl" bullshit.
Christopher Peterson
this made no sense. it's like you heard a few things on Yea Forums and /pol/ and tried to repeat it
Henry Richardson
She'll start calling herself a "feminist" once Interscope decides it's the best way to market her.
Joseph Lee
I'm going to archive this thread and send it to Melon. People are making pretty good points here.
Lucas Garcia
>"WHERE'S MY REFRIED BEANS???" >"FUCK YOU MOM FOR NOT LETTING ME HAVE REAL SODA"
I mean, could she at least wait until her album drops before turning into a diva?
Lucas Perez
I love her so much
Don't overthink it too much she has a really sweet voice, the lyrics are original and the melodies are chill. I'm rooting for her.
Nicholas Thomas
INDUSTRY GARDEN
Lincoln Brown
Oh please let's not start this again.
Alexander Sanders
I don’t like Billie at all. She is an industry plant and she does fake her depression for clout. But at least she and her brother write her stuff (at least to my knowledge). I think the more important issue is shit rappers being a front for producers. The vast majority of rappers do almost nothing in the studio, they’re literally just a voice and an image. I think that’s more serious that someone like Billie being a plant.
Gavin Sanders
this has always been a problem to an extent, in the past many bands had good songwriters that didn't do vocals but it was always the frontman that gets the most fame and attention
rap has maxxed this out in that only the vocalist gets the fame and attention while all the talented producers get none of it. they still get paid anyway, even from the live shows as there are performance royalties paid to songwriters. i bet plenty of them don't mind because they're probably the types who prefer to avoid attention.
Parker Evans
Especially since hip hop is often seen as a way out of poverty for most black youth.
Elijah Carter
She's just a reflection of how the youth already behave
Jackson Wood
It's actually very similar to Billie, because in her case she is the "front" for her producer brother. Watch most of her interviews and you'll see her bro is right there sitting behind her. Watch her live performances and you'll see him to the right of her either playing piano or managing her instrumentals. He even said he and his sister are technically a "duo".
Jaxson Turner
Maybe, but at least she isn't singing about sex and drugs. Right?
also, quit acting like Russ doesn't make good music. it's not like you're a producer from the south anyways who has a right to be offended. you're probably one of those suburban kids wearing jordans and decked out in all nike who unironically says "bruh" and "f am" after rap got popular
Like being a hipster has come full circle and a board once designated for esoteric underrated gems is now plagued with foreign pop music being a shill has come full circle as shills shill by outright berating their own prospects as a means of creating contention. All publicity is good publicity as they say. While Bille Ellish is going to completely blow Ariana Grande out of the water with her debut album why would people even be complaining about her being a plant. I'm going to end this here as I realize all criticism is complaint and this is Yea Forums.
Luke Hill
OP said it best: the problem isn't her being a plant (99% of pop stars are manufactured plants) but that she tries way too hard to come off as the anti-pop star.
Robert Butler
>While Bille Ellish is going to completely blow Ariana Grande out of the water with her debut album Questionable.
Juan Myers
Billie never claimed to be woke or socially conscious you fucking dumbass.
Carter Johnson
Nah.
Jack Adams
Sounds like a typical art thot.
Gavin Watson
give me an example of bobby d larping as something hes not
Jackson Hill
Nothing you see is real, unless you are really digging. At that point, though, you are a loser for caring so much.
Elijah Perez
Yeah fuck this.
Andrew Brooks
He was a rich kid claiming he was a homeless beggar or some shit.
Nathaniel Sullivan
He had a whole fictional narrative when he first showed up of having worked at a freak show in a circus when he was a kid.
Henry Cox
Do people actually compare her to Kate Bush? Also am I the only one who finds her face unbearably annoying
Luis Williams
90% of the posts comparing her to Kate are ironic.
There are some waifufags who honestly believe it though, perhaps because both of them were teenagers when they started singing and writing.
Just imagine dealing with sloppy seconds full of curry sauce.
Christopher Murphy
Ewwwww.
Jayden Peterson
based plant on the left.
Tyler Smith
YOU COULD BE SAD CUZ BABY IMMA LONER YEEEAAAAAH
Jaxson Cruz
She'll outsell Ari only to be forgotten by the end of the year. Who the fuck remembers Melanie Martinez or Kiiara?
Liam Peterson
at least jumex has ONE good song (loner) i still hate the kid though
Adam Myers
Billie has two good songs (Lovely and You Should See Me In a Crown).
Jeremiah Rogers
nope theyre both garbage
Nathaniel Price
Read or listen to any review of her. >'she's so wise beyond her years' >'she's so introspective' >'she's the voice of reason of her generation' >'she sings about real issues' >'she lends a mindful voice to a generation plagued by mindless indulgence and confusion' Etc. etc.
Camden Nelson
How? In Lovely she's quite expressive and works well with Khalid. In Crown she sounds like Lorde at her best.
Michael Harris
>she's quite expressive
so was GG Allin but that music was shit too
>In Crown she sounds like Lorde at her best.
You are a mentally deprived idiot if you think she sounds anywhere near Lorde at her worst. She is awful and a piss poor, uninspired, cash in industry plant derivative "no frills" offbrand of Lorde on her best.
Colton Clark
She's so fucking retarded, she honestly might be worse than Ariana Grande
Her acting during the first few seconds of this video is monumental cringe. How can anyone find her genuine or real at all? This is borderline sociopathic.
I do not at all believe this story about the cussing girl messing up Taylor Swift at a home school talent show. "It went ON and ON!" Did it? Really? "On" and "on?" Really, Billie?
Alexander Morris
>unironically comparing a legend like Bob to a full-blown payola thot like Shillie
Brayden Gonzalez
How did this "poor girl" buy a $200 meme jacket?
Isaac Price
apparently he has ADD, but he seems to have a lot of ambition and the desire to follow it up with hard work. perhaps he simply hasn't been broken yet by what's to come.
Dylan Lewis
Hold the fuck up. Did this bitch do a fucking film shoot at the soda pop store, and then act bewildered when a video that was clearly shot that same day, was then played on the show??
This fake fucking bitch. Am I the only one seeing this?? What the fuck.
Christian Fisher
I tortured myself by watching this entire thing. To be perfectly honest, most of it seemed scripted, like Billie knew what the questions would be beforehand and already had answers planned out. To OP's point, she seems very unprofessional, very rude, acting like a primadonna. She also flat-out lies about her backstory (not really surprising since she's come up with four different stories for how Ocean Eyes was created).
Daniel Ward
I'm in the process of watching it right now, and it's fucking fake. They bought this. I mean, that fucking soda pop thing alone proves this is pure bullshit. This is insanely obvious though, and they're just getting away with it???
WHAT?
Adam Martinez
>she grew up in a gentrification cesspool and was surrounded by literal race-based and class-based human displacements?
Yeah a teenage girl isn't going to have the same understanding of class struggle as a fucking Marxist professor dipshit. Go back to /leftypol/.
Jackson Ross
that interview where she talks about that dead nigger gave me quantum douche chills. "he said he was from ANOTHER WORLD... He said he WASN'T HUMAN..." this is somebody acting out the way she thinks "high society" rebels talk.
Joshua Ross
yeah, a teenage girl probably has a better understanding than a marxist professor
Henry Jones
It's bloody terrible. Watch it all the way through if you can.
Who do you think paid for it - Interscope or her parents?
Landon Evans
this pale bitch with her awful dye job
i'm kidding, i like her dye job, that's the absolute best thing about her by a massive margin
The level of pretentiousness here is off the charts.
Isaiah Clark
I suspect her parents have good credit, and leverage her income into further more lucrative lines and loans to further it with the expectation that she'll more than make up for it.
Interscope probably helps, but I don't see them wagering as much as they probably have been.
Colton Davis
I mean, if you're living in a house in a "nice" part of LA like Highland Park you no doubt have some cash.
Samuel Russell
SOMEONE POST THE GIF.
Julian Peterson
Poor Sean clearly doesn't even care.
Yep, and people with cash have access to more funds than only their income. There's no more valuable debt than rich people debt, because they can afford to pay on it and stand to lose something if they don't. Poor people debt is meant to be sold off. No doubt, someone's accrued debt in order for baby girl to have her own Hot Ones episode.
Christian Sanchez
She is behaving in such an obviously performative manner. What a hateable human being.
Wyatt Reed
How did she get a Hot Ones episode before her album has been released?
Oh fuck why has she been shilled EVERYWHERE since last spring? First time I heard of her was her song with Khalid and then it's like POOF she's literally everywhere.
Nolan Thomas
This cunt chewing ice in the middle of an interview.
Brandon King
>How did she get a Hot Ones episode before her album has been released?
Her parents have been in the industry for 40 years. They know how PR works.
Henry Barnes
pretty whack pouring almond milk in grape soda
Matthew Diaz
If you want more cringe:
William Harris
I want to punt her in the cunt to ensure her reproduction is permanently prevented.
Bentley Watson
b-b-but it actually tastes better and i'm not just doing some lol randum bullshit! really!
Kevin Perez
All the curry sauce in her cervix is already doing your job, user.
Blake Cruz
It's called a purple cow float, dumbasses.
Nicholas Jackson
For real tho, that fucking soda pop store bullshit is legendary levels of "this is bullshit."
And no one else notices this? She pretended to not know about a taping for which she attended.
Not with almond milk lmao
Hudson Foster
She WENT to a taping to her soda pop store, they filmed her and spliced it in, and then she pretended that she had no idea what was happening when they used footage from that taping in her interview.
Dude just read the OP. Billie's ENTIRE image is phony.
Let me post the pasta so you get a more vivid understanding: >fakes being deep >fakes being socially conscious >fakes being edgy >fakes being "ghetto" >fakes being depressed >lied about how Ocean Eyes was created four different times >lied about her brother writing and producing all her material >lied about her parents' industry connections >lied about being poor >lied about how and when she was signed to Interscope/UMG >lied about her abrupt image change >lied about clout chasing SoundCloud rappers
Nathaniel Sullivan
Of course, she was eating vegan wings, I caught that fact, but that is still not acceptable for that beverage. You can't substitute any old dairy product in any context with almond milk, especially not with fuck grape soda. You try that.
And it demonstrates that being a vegan is probably a lie too. She probably does drink that with regular milk, but forgot she was served almond milk and tried it out, and you can see her disgust.
Jack Moore
Yeah I've read that over the past few days, good job spreading it, but how can people defend her? The melon defended her! This is indefensible. Could you imagine Lester Bangs putting up with this shit? What the fuck is going on?
This bitch needs an Iggy Azalea level of backlash.
Mason Sanders
I can't wait for Denzel to perform this in front of all those 12-year old girls.
John Rogers
>This bitch needs an Iggy Azalea level of backlash. No one is going to attack a teenage girl. The typical excuse is "well she doesn't know any better", but if she's "wise beyond her years" or whatever you'd expect her to be aware of these things.
Isaac Flores
As a fan of this show, you can clearly hear how Sean is talking to her differently than other guests. He clearly does not have any connection towards her, does not have any particular interest in her, and for someone who usually takes the time to study them beforehand, he was really going through the motions when he brought up anything about her past.
Also, the overacted responses towards her attempts at humor, as if he's fulfilling an expectation with his reactions and interactions, and plain actions.
Jaxson Butler
Oh boohoo, a 17 year old was criticized. They execute 17 year olds in her country.
Jace Ortiz
Can someone please tell me why someone as respectable as him is white-knighting this no-talent thot?
Leo Perry
a job's a job. it's you got a thousand dollars to serve some slut some hot wings and talk for 10 minutes you'd do it
Adrian Brown
I noticed that too.
Jonathan Russell
I was talking about why Denzel Curry is going on tour with Billie and seems to be hellbent on caping for her, when he's clearly the more talented and respectable artist.
Why has her voice gone down the toilet? She can barely hit the high notes in her own song.
Ian Miller
It's a lot in the way he often addresses her with her name. He's essentially talking at her at some points.
Zachary Hill
She can barely hit notes in her song in any of the registers.
Colton Watson
Explain.
Adam Brown
She probably doesn't actually sing this song much. She probably recorded the parts in a much the same way Brian Eno recorded piano (overdubs out the ass for individual notes)
she's sharp in her altos, flat in her mezzo-sopranos, and all over the place when she goes tenor, and Lord us help us should she try to jump ranges in mid-phrase
Nicholas Robinson
She's autotuned and compressed heavily in the "studio" version of this tho, who knows how loud or well she can really hit the high parts.
Jaxson Wood
You think her whisper singing is damaging her vocals at all? Because this is what I usually see in threads about her whenever her voice is brought up.
Isaiah Clark
For comparison, you can barely hear her on the hook in the song she did with Ultimate Man, since his booming voice and the loud beat smother her entirely. No fucking clue how they're going to perform that live.
Carson Bell
She's not going to be able to hit those notes if she keeps it up and doesn't learn better technique.
She'll be ironically self-aware about it, if that other performance is any indication.
Ethan Thompson
Sorry to pester you but I lack the musical knowledge to make a good judgement. Thoughts on this performance? youtube.com/watch?v=g-EkFWQGv3A
She does sound better here DESU.
Nathaniel Carter
I can't be harsh, it's servicable, although she can certainly benefit from some projection. She seems to lack the hops to have any real nuance with any of it though. It's a bit of a bummer, because those parents could've put that money towards some lessons. She's not -that- bad in this context.
Her consonants are a bit breathy tho, it's a bit bothersome. That's why she needs a few lessons. She'd benefit.
But look at who is imparting the nuances: The borther. Huh. Almost as if this is his brainchild and she's simply the face of it, but what a crazy misogynistic notion. Spank me, melon.
Aaron Roberts
>lack the hops
CHOPS, lack the CHOPS
Brody Howard
My thoughts exactly. She needs to learn how to belt and better her range. She'd do much, much better.
William Cooper
It's not even the range, this range and intonation wasn't that bad, but she can't release the air for her notes while still making it sound like words are coming from her mouth. She's punishing her own lyrics for her lack of talent. Hence, the breathy consonants. She's not Patty Waters, but she's not Rebecca Black.
Anyways, as a present to anyone who has had to hear Billie Bullshit, enjoy instead this masterful performance by Patty Waters. An absolute classic.
Asher Hall
In case you don't know, her actual backstory is: professional actor/musician bro wrote Ocean Eyes for his band, she sang it and gave it to her dance instructor to choreograph a dance to, she posted it to SoundCloud, it blew up "out of nowhere" (cough cough), and with no other musical experience to her name she was signed to Interscope and payola'd down everyone's throat since 2017.
The big highlighted sentence here is "no other musical experience to her name". She was signed to a major label with almost nothing behind her, if that's any indication of why her vocal abilities are lacking.
Patti Smith, at 72 years old, could project louder while TALKING than Billie the 17 year old can while singing. Nevermind, Kate Bush had her first album out at 17 too.
This is her at 17. And I keep hearing about how Billie Bullshit is gonna do Wuthering Heights? lmao write your own Wuthering Heights, you fucking nothing.
DUDE, Kate Bush is singing this fucking masterpiece while performing it on piano at the same fucking age as Billie Bullshit, and this daft cunt wants us to care about her God awful Wuthering Heights karaoke session?
Matthew Lee
I think you posted the wrong video.
Noah Wood
You think Billie knows who Kate and Patti even are? She says Avril and Lana are her biggest influences.
Eli Morgan
You both had 17 years, I don't care how poor you want to lie and claim to have been. What are you even doing??
ew, yes, I did
Logan Williams
I don't even think she knows who Avirl and Lana are, I have that much contempt towards her.
Parker Ross
I mean Shillie's parents are MUSICIANS themselves. Why could they teach her to sing and play a fucking instrument as well as Kate?
Ryan Ortiz
Tbf I've never seen proof that they're good musicians, just information claiming they're "songwriters."
Charles Morris
I'm re-archiving this thread and sending it to Melon. He's going to have a heart attack reading through this.
So Melon can complain about how she sounds like she's trying to sound weird
Matthew Reed
Stunning performance.
She has a MUCH better grasp on singing than Shillie.
Carter Morris
billie eilish be all like *industry plant noises*
Ian Allen
bUt ShE cAn SiNg WuThErInG hEiGhTs In ThE oRiGiNaL kEy YoU iNcEl.
Nathan King
Industry plants happen just get on board or ignore the cunt. If you just keep whining this bitch will end up living rent free inside your head until you decide to shoot up a school
Noah Perez
And Patty was 18-19 at the time of recording. Right in Billie's age range. No one is setting unreasonable expectations.
Isaac Bailey
I don't give a fuck if she lives rent free in my head if I'm making my head a living Hell for her to live within. She can suffer the scorn of my thoughts as long as I desire, but that bitch ain't getting a cent outta me.
Elijah Taylor
Plants destroy culture.
Ethan Sanchez
I mean, with all of her family's connections to industry professionals you have to ask why no one ever stepped in and taught her proper singing technique.
I'm betting she'll have to rely heavily on backplay during her upcoming live shows, especially if she and her black beauty are going to be performing duets in front of loud industrial trap beats.
Eli Ramirez
desu I always felt the same way about Kanye West, I guess she's so preoccupied with marketing and promotion and interviews, etc. Plus, she's probably too lazy to actually put in the effort.
At least Kanye has credibility to him as an artist, in the sense he produces shit with real substance. Billie on the other hand is entirely driven by empty hype. Oh hell, her social media clout (15 million IG followers, 3 million likes on a her pic within 24 hours) is proving more vital to her career than her actual music.
Landon Jones
Of course, Blood on the Leaves is one of the greatest songs ever desu~ She's an utter mess of a human being in comparison.
Kevin Williams
Her fake ghetto accent is horrid to listen to.
Andrew Long
bUt BiLlIe Is A cHiLd PrOdIgY yOu InCeL
Liam Nelson
Gah, you caught me. I'm a sexless virgin with a small penis. That's why I think Kate Bush is better: My small, misogynistic penis.
James Roberts
Social media clout has nothing to do with the quality of the music, and it can distract from it.
Lil Pump has 17 million followers on IG yet his latest album flopped (it was terrible, which was to be expected). Shillie can go on as many media outlets as she wants, rank up as many millions of followers as she wants, but that's not going to mean shit in terms of her musical abilities or how well she conveys them.
Also the more I look at her the more it's becoming clear her brother is the real artist. His sister is just a figurehead. You can be sure they're going to get into creative control disputes, probably financial ones too down the road.
Angel Cox
the first thing he literally said was he is bothered by how she DENIES being one
Thomas Young
I mean, I'd love nothing more than for her to prove me wrong, but she'd have to put in time and effort and she almost definitely won't do what it takes. Maybe the brother has potential.
Jacob Bell
>zoomer Joan Baez >'yo yo yo we shall overcommmmme yo yo yo'
Carter Scott
lmao
Caleb Watson
Do people really say this about her? Her interviews prove she’s really stupid, like more so than your average American 17-tear old.
You live in flyover country and have no idea what an actual art/music scene is like because the only thing you have exposure to is mass media.
There is "real art/music" happening and being made right now, don't let your false disillusion give undue credit to vapid pop stars for merely making a career to survive. They're aping something that's still authentic at the real life community level.
Luis Cooper
>icky poor people can't make or understand art >only the anointed upper social strata of a handful of coastal cities have Real Art Scenes douche chills
Lucas Reyes
you just got owned, Donovan did Bob Dylan better than Dylan...
Jaxon Miller
I'm a middle class tradesman and live in New Orleans. I grew up in rural Mississippi. There was no art in my entire town, at all. I never saw real art, I never saw a real musician, and as the "punk kid" in my class of 109, I listened to the handful of biggest bands. I had to get my parents to drive me 40 minutes one way to the closest c.d. store.
Now I'm literally surrounded by art and music and don't think either my upbringing or adult life is all that unique in regards to my exposure and the general availability of culture.
Austin Peterson
only difference is Juice is actually good
Andrew Wood
This, compare this to the one with Ramsay where you can see actual respect and admiration for the guest, he even seemed to get somewhat nervous at time With Billie the whole thing is like "oh, its my turn to clean the urinals again? Welp, lets get it over with"
>Compare bad song to bad song Oh wow user you really got me there, now i like him
Camden Perez
Holy fuck this shit sounds annoying
Dominic Jenkins
Unironically i prefer billie, she can actually sing to some degree, and looks fuckable, way more than juice could ever achieve desu
Brody Foster
who tf cares man, idk who that even is, but it seems like you're pretty mad. just listen to good shit and fuck everything else. /thread
Jason Green
>looks fuckable anything to you would look fuckable
Connor Gray
I have to agree, she doesn't look bad when she isn't wearing supreme patty's hand me downs
Luke Collins
Yes.
Isaiah Howard
>two obvious plants signed to the same label
Blake Wilson
calling himself Dylan instead of Zimmerman
Matthew Hill
Jesus, you sound like a pretentious faggot.
Nathan Ross
>Billie Eilish as the "zoomer Joan Baez"
This is facepalm on so many levels. I might not be a fan of Joan's liberalism or her pacifism but the woman has real street cred in that she got involved in civil disobedience-type activism before making it big as as singer-songwriter (not to mention she can sing like no one's fucking business even if she's singing Bob's words rather than her own). Meanwhile I'm certain Billie hasn't even been to a BLM rally.
From everything that's been released so far, the album doesn't seem like it's going to be that impressive, basically run-of-the-mill electronic pop with indie girl vocals.
If every song Billie did sounded like You Should See Me In a Crown or Bury a Friend then maybe it would be right to call her the "SoundCloud Lorde". Now her music just sounds generic and personality-less.
Luis Adams
This is literally awkward to watch.I had to stop a few times. Just everything about it makes me feel uncomfortable.
Camden Nelson
>all the vitriol and hate ITT jeez, does anyone here actually like her?
Christopher Bell
>Billie Eilish is the hyper-talented singer/songwriter >hyper-talented
what exactly makers her more talented than other pop singers?
i like her hair and tits, does that count? the metal chain is pretty cool too. musically and visually she combines a lot of things that typically appeal to me, but it's like comparing a real diamond to one made of plastic. one has substance, weight, an emotional attraction. but with billie it's just a facade with not much underneath.
that said i'm excited for her album because i literally just listened to some of her stuff for the first time a couple days ago, and i want to find something likeable. in particular, ocean eyes was such shit. i like minimalist music too but damn, does she have to scrape the soul out of everything, too?
Christian Wright
>i like her hair and tits *knock knock knock* fbi open up
Luke Lopez
imagine this threesome
Cooper Taylor
Suburban white teens and their moms btfo in one swift motion. I don't like Billie but this is objectively based
Isaac Foster
Would you rather listen to the Jewish Mexican or William Eyelash?
Jumex is unironically better
Camden Long
Please do I wanna see
Cameron Scott
Curry is a professional raper he would NEVER sexually exploit a teenage white girl!!
Ethan Gonzalez
She’s white and underage. Why do you think?
Parker Kelly
what do you think of his lil jumex tracks?
Sebastian Howard
Fantano and SpectrumPulse love her.
Eli Brooks
How do they compare to the garbage he’s released recently?
Jaxon King
You are possibly the most retarded person I've ever seen on Yea Forums, congratulations
Cooper King
more importantly how did she get a khalid collab that quick
Jackson Robinson
>Radio Stations/Streaming Platforms/Critics are praising her music, i genuinely can't figure out if they really DO like her music
you really think a pop radio show host is gonna start beef with an artist? dumb guy
Michael Mitchell
They're "friends".
Daniel Jenkins
shes a cutie
Joseph Thompson
Or, how did she get an uncredited feature on AOTY 2018 with such a shit body of work?
Aaron Clark
She and Denzel are "friends".
Hunter Brooks
Willy Eyelashes is the musical equivalent of a tight T-shirt in pastel pink sold at Forever 21 which reads in bold black letters: "You laugh because I'm different, I laugh because you're all the same."
In fact I'd go even further and say she's Forever 21 personified.
Jace Cruz
imagine the smell
Tyler Foster
>accusing a survivor of molestation of molesting a child Fuck off.
Brayden Richardson
On God bro
Isaiah Smith
I have absolutely no idea who this is?
Is it an American thing?
Nicholas White
...
Nolan Ortiz
So yes then, keep her along with all memerap/trap bollocks
Jacob Wilson
seething
Camden Morris
She is a meme.
Connor Gutierrez
Pierce Brosnan sure has a good taste in pussy.
Landon Ortiz
But that's how it usually happens.
Eli Ward
Normie larp sells, it appeals to the "I'm not like other girls" stereotype that a lot of girls are itching to validate themselves with these days, all to try and hide the fact that really they're just a bunch of boring drones
The law of hipsterdom: youth who insist their style and tastes are "unique" all end up having identical style and tastes.
Levi Diaz
Why do you even fucking remotely care user. Yeah it sucks but the world sucks. People die of disease or get raped for no reason other than seemingly random chance. She is just another random creation of the world. You obviously don’t like her music, so stop paying attention to her. It’s that simple.
Easton James
>Why the fuck did it take friendships with woke rappers in order to get her to be aware of real-world shit when she grew up in a gentrification cesspool and was surrounded by literal race-based and class-based human displacements?
please stop being a libtard, thanks
Christopher Bailey
>'you're a faggot if you're politically aware'
Owen Peterson
Kinda sad how 'politically aware' came to mean 'subscribing to the most boring orthodoxies of progressivism.'
Nicholas Bailey
Is there video of her just ripping ass full on BRAPPPPPP in an interview? Seems like there would be
Jordan Bell
Someone has to have made a youtube poop of it by now.
Leo Robinson
You can tell her whisper singing is purely aesthetic, whereas Billie probably whispers because that's the only way she sounds pleasing to the ear and on-key.
Elijah Sanchez
He sees she's being exploited by her label and is trying to "protect" her no doubt.
Think about it. Her musical existence is entirely a label creation hence the constant payola and shilling; at this point she IS the clown from the Clout Cobain video.