Kpop general

My theory.
Fans are voicing out about the lack of Daisy and Taeha
Fans are voicing out that they went the meme route again.

>25% dislike ratio
Not even twice when they were getting heat ever got it that bad
And if it's just because I'm so hot is jank that seems odd because ikon's worst horrible songs didnt get that much negative attention as an example, ppl just didnt care

is it true that mina stopped dancing half way the show because of her ankle?

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what vid?

Here is my theory

what are you mad for

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wtf is that thigh

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nigger looking gook

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iKON has a fandom to shield them from shit like Bling Bling

Twiceboy got some interesting assets

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What is the KPOP equivalent of Rock Wit'cha - Bobby Brown?

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Bambam is rough..

I'm working on it

I guess yeonwoo won't be getting paid after this comeback either

Damn. My daughterwife looks so good.

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I HATE KIM DAHYUN

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Lbr, no one cares /that/ much about daisy or tasha. And fans if svt dont care about samey songs with the same chorus all the time

imagine the butt

fuck you i liked bling bling

don't be jealous

AT EASE SOLDIER

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biting yedong's nose...

it's time to take xanax, burger

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word except bday

prime juicy korean dubu

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How do I get a gf like this?

thinking about SinB...

basedbraindamagebro

This woman has no flaws

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I am pretty pissed that it is a meme song again. Not that I care enough to dislike it.

They sell like 100k several years after debut. As a big3 boy group that's a pretty damn weak dedicated fanbase.
And my point was that the worst ikon songs were simply ignored for the most part

jealous?! eunseo is INFINITELY better than shit shathyun

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I actually prefer Heart Shaker to What is Love

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bling bling was so bad we had no choice but to embrace collective amnesia and trick our brains into thinking it never happened. it's for the best.

>This woman has no flaws
Wrong. I haven't made her pregnant yet

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what happened to wjsn posters?

Momo is so sensual

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you guys are gonna make me dublast again

OH NO NO NO NO NO FUCK OH FUCK FUCK FUCK WE GOT TOO COCKY TWICEBROS

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>dry humps your waifu

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I became a twice poster

they erp in their thread and discord instead of here now

Cx left us....

spreading your filthy seeds around isnt a flaw?

At least the horns in bling bling dont sound like they're choked with cloth and pennies like I'm so hot

youtube.com/watch?v=0Z9R57maGvc
here's the new momoland song but good

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it's a great song

still here

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the song is okay I guess, it was obviously the better song between theirs, everglow's and dia's.
Jooe's rap is unironically the best part of the song.

bros.. has she mastered every color?

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Sorry for doubting that one GWSN shill
youtube.com/watch?v=VZ8kYn_o5RY
This is fire

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Didnt one ikon say bling bling traumatized him lol

pls help

twitter.com/JYPETWICE/status/1108311850381266944
Dumb anti blown the fuck out

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how does the dragon look even better without make up?

Everglow's song is actually better because there is actually a payoff when the bass drops. Momoland's one just petters out.

nah she dont give a fuck

YES

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still waiting for blue

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i like everglows more but mainly because the choreography isn't shit.

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junhoe still wakes up in a cold sweat with the instrumental blaring in his head sometimes

ouh... shes just asking for it now.. i cant imagine what i would do if i were within 50 meters of her... i wouldnt be able to control myself

i really dislike everglow's because of the autotune throughout the entire duration

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vic fuentes needs a haircut

is everglow an improved version of loona?

Oh my word

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>bought an album for a photoshoot previewed in the highlight video
>said photoshoot isn't actually in the booklet
>even worse, it's literally nowhere outside the preview video
cantopop for this feel?

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Looks like mld is gonna be overbooking jooe's schedule as much as possible to get back in good graces

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someone post that cute girl from gugudan please

i hate it when groups have a hit and then their next song/concept has similar elements. has this ever worked? people want consistent quality and variety not the same shit over and over.

that's fair. they're not a vocal group though so it won't really get better for them.

I was a little too tall
Could've used a few pounds
Tight pants points hardly reknown
She was a black-haired beauty with big dark eyes
And points all her own sitting way up high
Way up firm and high

Out past the cornfields where the woods got heavy
Out in the back seat of my '60 Chevy
Workin' on mysteries without any clues
Workin' on our night moves
Tryin' to make some front page drive-in news
Workin' on our night moves
In the summertime
In the sweet summertime

We weren't in love, oh no, far from it
We weren't searchin' for some pie in the sky summit
We were just young and restless and bored
Livin' by the sword
And we'd steal away every chance we could
To the backroom, to the alley or the trusty woods
I used her, she used me
But neither one cared
We were gettin' our share
Workin' on our night moves
Tryin' to lose the awkward teenage blues
Workin' on our night moves
And it was summertime
Sweet summertime summertime

And oh the wonder
We felt the lightning
And we waited on the thunder
Waited on the thunder

I awoke last night to the sound of thunder
How far off I sat and wondered
Started humming a song from 1962
Ain't it funny how the night moves
When you just don't seem to have as much to lose
Strange how the night moves
With autumn closing in

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best Kang mentioned

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#MOMOLAND "I'm So Hot" - 21:00 KST:

#5 Bugs (+1)
#7 Soribada (+3)
#48 Genie (+1)
#55 Melon (-7)
#85 Mnet (-3)

Is this going to be okay for them?

they don't know what diminishing returns are apparently. baam did worse than bboom bboom and this is doing worse than baam

The girls are hotter but they have some of the shittiest vocals I've heard

I'm gonna make a lot of babies with this girl

>browsing kahi's instagram for pics
>95% of them are of her kids

Genie is owned by SM
Melon is owned by a stakeholder of YG
Mnet is owned by CJ

sounds like they would be doing a lot better if the big companies weren't blocked them from moving up the charts

not if i get to it first

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Here

the song is so bad and sounds dated

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youtube.com/watch?v=Dqsn5C75-uA
>They are not a vocal group

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dal shabet's bling bling is a catchy and fun disco song, something really kpoppy

stop this and post her

I listened to it like 3 times because I was so fascinated by how a song could be so unlikable outside of bobby's part
And I'm someone who likes aggressive kpop songs generally, like bastarz

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forgot image

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I just did dumbass

NO

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I love her. The perfect woman

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wait hold on, where did this come from
I thought the next round of teasers were tonight

why would any of the big 3 block fucking momoland
stop posting your headcanon, momoland can't compete with any of their groups

now listen to d+1

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no gwsn is

STOP MEMING ME

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dubu isn't that cute dbh

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>Someone datamined the next teasers
fucking idiots leaving all the images on the website

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from their site, it was released few minutes ago

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that looks tasty

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They don't go up for another 2 hours, the crystals only give me the first 3 still

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d+1 was awful
like, that song made me wonder whether the autotune in bon bon chocolat was for sonic effect, or because they actually can't sing

Only images of tonight's teasers.

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hichan looks like that?!?!

they thankfully migrated to their own general on /trash/

People already did this with the Private Mail site so they should have prepared for this to happen

yikes

EWWWW 3/7 have gray hair
BTS grandfathers concept edition

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you have to go back, roastie

nugu?

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evergreen or whatever the fuck they're called are dogshit

don’t bully bona

based

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>someone datamined
>names the photos 001 and 002 it takes a lot of brain to realise what is going on

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>tfw have a separate folder just for Dubu eating pics and webms

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Images being leaked like 2 hours early mean nothing.

kek

literally not even the slightest bit of similarity. are you the same guy that said the same about gwsn?

will 4th gen see the return of good vocalists? the average 2nd gen group had better singers than the average 3rd gen group i swear.

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I just realized the directory before the filename is the exact same, so chances are someone just typed "heartiz-teaser-yuri.jpg" to the end and it worked

They should have expected someone to do that, come on

wow yoongi is so hot

based

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meant for

the 4th gen started with itzy, and everglow.
itzy has better singers than everglow, but neither group are particularly vocally talented.

I don't even think itzy is going to make songs with intense vocals anyway.

>food thread
Those are my favorite

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Not surprised. But they didn't upload the rest of the teaser. Just the ones to be revealed tonight.

i love watching dahyun suffer

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my bf

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not until the current shit trend and group on top are gone

>Lia's voice cracks live

4th gen doesn't start till 3rd gen goes downhill friendo.

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I doubt it. Companies don't care about actual vocal training that much

I miss her

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JYP's vocalist are not good vocalist.

>3rd gen is never gonna end
fucking based

more leaks

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Fuck I love her

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this is honestly sad

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Kpop found put vocals dont matter in groups after a certain point

They don't have a fandom in Korea, it's irrelevant

OH NO

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omo

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baek yerin

>Park Bogum, an actor and one of Taehyung’s closest friends, is at the concert!

EWWWW Did he really have to fly from Seoul to Hong Kong for their concert

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with some basic google dorks you can probably find the whole structure of it..

cult member

updated
>SS Tier
Fromis/itzy/dreamnote/everglow

>A Tier
Loona/Dreamcatcher/OMG/fanatics/izone/wjsn

>B Tier
BP/GIDLE/apink/GFRIEND/mamamoo/twice/lovelyz/saturday/gwsn

>C Tier
exid/gugudan/Pristin/Momoland/cherry bullet/rv

>D Tier
DIA/April/weme/pristin/aoa

>F Tier
elris/Nature/Laboum/clc

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MMLD's song is okay but after Bboom Bboom and BAAM it just seems a bit redundant like Shinsadong was just phoning it in.

I'm actually okay with it being a low rent T-ara homage since it'll be a fun karaoke song for South Koreans but it's nothing special. While DIA and MMLD are both trying to be T-ara 2.0 since nobody else is doing it they need to stagger their comebacks better but honestly I'd rather have T-ara clones than endless bad Twice clones or Teen Crush.

We need a Kara 2.0 and a Sistar 2.0 though

That is what they said about SNSD as well. A gen normally starts to end towards the end of the biggest group contract. So if BTS didn't make it, the gen would end with EXO going downhill and Twice. Now we are in a weird situation where BTS hit it big so Gen 3 might actually never end. Mostly due to BTS.

If this is based on fandom or sales then you need to really switch it up a ton. If it's based on talent you really need to switch it up a ton.

t-ara come to get down

>Sistar 2.0 though
good luck finding anyone with hyolyn's vocals

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future outlook, potential, relevance, upward vs downward trends

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>mashing dubu
wtf dahyun

i see some nipple

You can thank JYP for that.
Turns out having good vocalist has nothing to do with success.
Which is why groups nowadays shit out members with subpar vocals where as Gen 2 had really good vocalist.

twitter.com/DaisyOvrFlowers/status/1108341964603219969

snoozefest desu

t-ara's falling u is rolling in its grave atm

ilbe.com/index.php?mid=celeb&sort_index=best&order_type=desc&listStyle=gallery&document_srl=11074806147

kek

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He ruined Winner

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ningning is supposed to be a high tier vocalist
but if we're being honest, the next great vocalist is going to come from sm

Falling U is a straight BOP.
T-ara had some much good song. I fucking hate KKS and the dog for what they did.

Nah BTS will get fucked over by enlistment just like every group ever in kpop. Right now they are propelled to the top based upon their western fandom and Koreans jumping on the bandwagon because muh National Boy Group. It also helps them that SM is slowing down EXO promotions, Wanna One is dead and SVT and NCT can't challenge them yet. So they are sort of winning by default.

On the girl side things are kind of stagnant. Twice is number one although I guess BP is coming up behind them. RV, GFriend and Mamamoo aren't growing much but they are holding onto their current fans. Itzy and Izone are challenging but it's unclear if they will be able to hold onto their debut audience or if they will suck on their first comeback like Pristin did.

literally the ugliest chinshit

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>Ella at the end
OVER THE LINE

i don't get the hype

BTS is stripping in Hong Kong

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I think itd be safe to mark end of gen 3 when jyp 2021 korean group debuts and exo isnt really promoting as a group

>hears knocking on door
>look out the window
>see this

What do?

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chewy is the peak chinkpop

literally just mentally ill pedos

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Twice will remain number 1 till they drop. It is no coincidence that the rise of Twice coincided with the fall of SNSD.

me in the back imagining

>SS Tier
fromis_9/itzy

>A Tier
mamamoo/wjsn/twice/exid/gfriend/izone/rv

>B Tier
loona/dreamcatcher/OMG/apink/cherry bullet/dreamnote

>C Tier
>gugudan/pristin/momoland/DIA/clc/april

>D Tier
>lovelyz/saturday/wjsn/elris

>F Tier
>BP/g-idle/everglow/nature

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seems like there's only room for one super popular GG in kpop at any one time

JYP has shit luck marking male groups

cringe

Please don't look, it's a work in progress

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didn't mean to list wjsn in D tier

In gen2 it wasnt a requirement either. See: yg groups. 2pm was huge before dui scandal and I dont remember them for standout vocals

zoom and enhance

shinsadong is a hack
he did the same thing with EXID

Mainly because JYP doesn't select for good vocals and YG always prefers vocal color over technique. Yuju is the best of the non big 3 vocalists but honestly she'd do so much better as a soloist doing big ballads sort of like solo Taeyeon.

I guess we could get a decent vocalist out of a smaller agency. FNC has Haeyoon who is solid but unspectacular. Cube has Miyeon who is sort of the same way. Not sure who else could be considered a potential high end vocalist.

kys

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She's squishing them way too hard, should have just pushed them from below and let them bounce out in the middle of the choreo desu

wjsn is already on a downward trend

Bom had a good voice.
Yeah because the 2PM/2AM was supposed to be a huge group and all the vocal talents went to 2AM. And the JYP didn't want to promote 2AM.

jesus christ

I dont think they really care about boy groups domestically, since got7 still brought in more than twice from tours last year. The members want recognition but the company just sees a paycheck and think its prob good enough

nice ass. i like ASS

ye they used to be ss a few months ago

Twice aren't really growing in SK mainly because they are starting to get older and cutepop doesn't fit like 5 of the members now. As long as they are still growing in Japan JYP will stick with their concept unfortunately. But the fact that their vocals suck also hurts their ability to transition over to a more mature vocal heavy concept.

The 2021 jyp group is the upcoming gg, dumb dumb

>Twice aren't really growing in SK mainly because they are starting to get older

>just today
>'YES or YES' has become the best-selling album released in 2018 by a girl group on Hanteo Chart, with 150,501 copies sold. Congrats, @JYPETWICE!

EXID benefits from LE being one of the GOAT female rappers. Basedeon might have better flows but LE has more swag and honestly I generally prefer her lyrics.

word

post NICE PANTS

Yes or yes is actually not their peak.
So they are actually not growing. Not that it matters, they are still the biggest by a large margin.

So what is ITZY?

2ne1 were still better singers than bp though

They don't need to min max kr and jp Fandom, to me they've already conquered both, they now need to step out of their zone and gain the int fans instead

The gap filler for between twice comebacks. Like the fx to snsd

How are the RBW trainees vocally? Haven't watched any of their videos desu

no shit.

on a side note what is love just beat twicetagram, lane2 is 1st or 2nd depending on if you consider the Christmas ed released a few months later as the same album

don't forget solji even though she wasn't around for 2 years.

hanteo counts foreign sales too though and everyone's sales seem to be increasing because of the i-fandom these days

Didnt make minzy popular. And cl was a lot more known for rap.

jiwon is my bias now

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All the smaller groups actually have to have decent vocals because that is their only gimmick to stand over. Unlike the Big3, they don't get blindly shilled by their fans. If ITZY wasn't big3, they would catch so much shit for their vocals.

damn inagine if momoland had rap parts longer than 2 lines

Solji is basically one of the top 3 vocalists in Kpop right now and Hyelin is actually better than most of the third generation main vocalists. Certainly better than Jihyo, Lia, Rose, etc.

>Momoland's Nancy changes her Korean name from Lee Seungri to Lee Geuroo
lmfao

Twice sajaegied their dome tour

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I agree her lyrics are better but I find her voice annoying personally

>vocals is a gimmick
JUST

literal clout whore

instagram.com/p/Bdc0s0wgc83/

chansung going ernie mode

They dont need to because it's not worth the effort to compete with BP internationally when now they can spend time milking asia, esp japan. Itzy is probably jyp's intended international gg

hey pretty girl

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Meme rapping really doesn't help out most groups. It's more sort of something that's just expected at this point but only a small number of groups like EXID, Gidle and CLC actually benefit from rap breaks.

release the nipples

>lia
i love itzy but the debut was a shitshow in terms of her vocals
what the hell happened? her disney cover or whatever sounded decent

Vocalfagging is a meme

CL basically overshadowed everyone though and besides she's still a solid vocalist. YG made more of an attempt at getting decent singers in 2nd gen and with 3rd gen he just did the minimum.

Bona looks funny here

Understandable. Personally I find Moonbyul's raps to be annoying but I still concede she's good.

Mamamoo's entire gimmick is they sing well because if they didn't they won't be successful as well. You can actually name more groups who are successful based on other factors than vocal talent.

>m-muh vocal staminuh

Exid are saved by having LE who actually composes the tracks and comes up with the melodies, SST just turns the demos into proper songs.
Also, they can all sing/rap, some member are good at their job, others are actually great.
The reason why they've pushed the Up and Down vibes so much for the title tracks is because every time they did something different it performed poorly even though the songs were better.
Blame Korea.

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I'm pretty sure anything outside of korea falls under international

Standing still is a lot less breath intensive than dancing if you didnt know

it's jiwon from cherry bullet

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Lee Hi and AkmuQT are the only good YG vocalists anymore and they are buried deep deep in the dungeon.

solji is on another level
youtu.be/bbwCMcxNs04
but hani won a masked singer, well not against the king but idols don't get finalist like she did. Less than 10 girl group idols I'm certain someone posted it yesterday

Vocal coaches, can you tell me if my girls can sing?
>Dreamcatcher

that's because that's momoland yeonwoo

fucking singers singing well, lmaoing at those hacks

nancy looks different here

based

She fucked up the encores too

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If you want to play semantics, sure
But korea and japan, and china to an extent, are different from conquering SEA and western countries. Intl in kpop context means outside east asia

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early you uggoshitting gremlin

>Intl in kpop context means outside east asia
no it doesn't

yoink
nope and stay mad

Who cares if hani won masked singer, she's definetly not technically proficient