Who's about to watch Leaving Neverland? It starts on HBO right NOW

Who's about to watch Leaving Neverland? It starts on HBO right NOW.

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i really dont get the continued interest in michael jackson fucking kids

Everyone wants to hear about musicians behaving BADly.

The brigading by his degenerate and unhinged fanbase never fails to amuse me.

In the #MeToo era, even the dead are fair game. Also shitting on legacy is popular right now and shitting on the legacy of dead black men has always been popular. This kind of shit sells. Also the two dudes in this have a pending civil lawsuit against the estate I believe.

Money basically. Like always.

This is the most talked about HBO documentary in years. The viewership numbers will be huge.

>Also shitting on legacy is popular right now
It's always been popular, especially among edgy contrarians who have something to prove.

>and shitting on the legacy of dead black men has always been popular
Not true. Aside from MLK, I don't hear anyone outside perhaps /pol/ shitting on Frederick Douglass.

This is so boring. Turned it off.

aaah you're gonna watch the propaganda, he wasn't a nonce, the dude who's saying he did it, defended him, he's clearly changed his tune because being a backing dancer for lame pop musicians has ran its course and he cant make money

Is anyone else actually watching this now?

He was clearly a complete pedophile, you fucking idiot. Jesus christ.

ayuwoki?

a) metoo is going after everyone, even closed cases
b) when you're the biggest thing in the world it's bound to make you a target for all kinds of resentful slander, even in death

Wrong

You are out of your fucking mind. The guy fits the perfect profile of a serial child molester. I get that you can't handle that because you liked some shitty pop songs from the 80s, but it is clear to anyone with a functioning brain stem that he was a child rapist who got away with it.

tell that to the accusers who admitted under oath that the whole thing was a lie to make money

His victims aren't dead

>it is clear to anyone with a functioning brain stem that he was a child rapist who got away with it
It is clear to anyone who actually looks into it that he wasn't

well there was the whole acquitted thing and mate, I don't like his songs enough to aggressively defend him, so it's not for that reason, it's because the fucking dude accusing him fits the profile of a scam artist, he defended him during his trial, the trial during which he was acquitted,and he's changed his tune for money.

do people seriously think absolutely nothing happened during all of those """sleepovers""" with multiple young boys.

It's been fun watching the media just eat this bullshit up like a dog from a bowl. Journalism is truly dead.

It's weird but there are plausible alternative explanations that factor in his mental issues. Not having a childhood seriously fucked him up and he became obsessed with youth and innocence. He wanted to be a kid, so he surrounded himself with kids.

its not true they just want the money

I like their excuse of "he never really had a childhood so it's totally understandable he slept with kids"

Why would a grown man hang around with kids and have sleepovers with them? YUCK.

That's not what they're saying.

How much did these documentary subjects get paid to reveal their stories. I'd be embarrassed as hell to confess to getting abused by Michael Jackson.

He was found 'not guilty'. That doesn't mean that he was innocent. It means that there was insufficient evidence, at the time.

And, of course, money and fame doesn't corrupt the legal system. Right?

No, you're just an apologist for a shitty celebrity pedophile because you liked his music.

>things that never happened

>seemingly too much smoke for there not to be fire
>still no reliable or conclusive evidence of abuse
MJ was either a misunderstood innocent or the most ingenious cover-upper in history.

This documentary is fucking disgusting

>Michael Jackson hanging out with kids
>Michael Jackson sleeping with kids
>Michael Jackson molesting kids

All of these things are inappropriate and disgusting

It's both for money and the fact that he is obviously guilty

But Yea Forums is promising me, in this thread, that it's all a conspiracy! None of it happened! Shamone!

lol no

Bc for some reason people still hold on really tightly to his chance of innocence even though most signs point to guilty guilty and guilty

>believe Yea Forums
>believe television
Decision of the century

I don't even care if he didn't have sex with the kids, hanging out with them as often as he did and having sleepovers with kids is completely inappropriate when you're a grown ass man.

The shills are in full force tonight. Nobody with a brain buys your shitty documentary, HBO.

I know you're being sarcastic but the media lies all the time and anyone who blindly believes everything the TV tells them is an idiot.

>Hating a documentary you haven't even watched

ya goof

Pretty sure a significant portion of his fans on Yea Forums only defend him ironically because he had "kike" as one of his lyrics and think he hated jews.

Ayyye yeah robson especially is such a money grubbing piece of shit but Michael obviously fucked around with all these kids. It annoys the fuck out of me to see robson whining about how many people have covered shit up when he himself and his mother did the same when it was more beneficial for him to keep quiet

Michael himself put a huge barrier between his personal life and his public image, so I have no trouble separating art from artist in his case.

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I've been reading some crazy shit about him and his ranch lately. Beds everywhere, 5 locks on his bedroom door, hidden rooms, art books of naked boys 5 of them between his bedroom and the hidden closet in his bedroom, photos of child and animal torture, lavish gifting and vacations for his boys parents, including cars and more money after a suit was settled, having a mock wedding with one of the boys, buying them jewelry, love notes, two women he married insisting they never had sex with him or even spent the night in his bed, didnt have the same kind of relationships with the little girls, picked boys from troubled families, adult toys or depictions of sex out in the open in the bedroom where the boys slept alone with him, the boys fingerprints on adult sexual literature that he kept by the bed, the one little boy drawing the vitiligo patterns on his penis etc

Disgusting

>undeniable facts
A lot of this sounds like he said she said

>mfw people forgive Michael but not Gary and his fantastic macho glam rock

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Gary Glitter’s music was better

Why are they coming out with this now? The man passed 10 years ago. Stop speaking ill of the dead. There is no "moral" lesson here.

This documentary just keeps getting grosser and grosser.

Leave him alone and focus on people who are ALIVE right now. What do we gain morally speaking by disrespecting the dead?

When he was alive, I just assumed he was a kiddie diddler. But after he died there was so much stuff about how he didn't and was innocent, that I hesitantly accepted that he was probably innocent. But now that there are these new testimonies, it seems like he diddled SOME of the kids, SOME of the time, but not ALL of the kids ALL of the time.

The only thing I like about MJ is the Thriller video, but that's a hell of a video

Gary has gotten around to say the least

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I don’t see how this is disrespecting the dead lads

You're slandering a dead man, aren't you?

It ain’t slander if it’s true!

>nooo stop pointing out Michael Jackson was a shit human being that raped kids
Sorry faggot, your butt buddy raped kids

He’s jealous he didn’t get raped by Jackson

You don't know if any of it is true.

Nah this is bullshit.
Its not even about Michael at this point it's about peoples insistence on his innocence because of who he was imo. It should make a lot of people look at themselves and ask if they're letting their emotions get in the way of what they really believe, what the world will reject if it doesn't fit with their narrative about a person, the lengths we'll go through to keep people we like in the clear, and ultimately what it means to a legacy when someone as culturally significant as Michael Jackson is likely an abuser. Half of the country is ready to completely end a career over some jokes about molestation on twitter, they're ready to end a career over statutory rape, sexual harassment etc.. but we all love Michael so he gets a pass, we give him the benefit of the doubt and hold onto any tiny bit of evidence we can that he may be innocent.
Reminds me of when Lena Dunhams friend got #metoo'd and she immediately ran to his defense. It makes it look like #metoo is a lot more of a witchhunt than an actual desire for change. In reality it's prob a bit of both.

It's propaganda to draw people's focus away from pedowood, and that the majority of people getting #metoo'd are Jews.

Reminder that multiple organizations including the FBI investigated him for a decade and found nothing.

Found the white cuck. Go back to the closet while the bull(et) train goes through her station.

This. MJ was innocent.

>all of those """sleepovers""" with multiple young boys

You mean in the 2-storey multiple-wing "bedroom" that they were in?

>two women he married insisting they never had sex with him or even spent the night in his bed

Didn't Presly say that she and Michael DID have a physical relationship?

Bruh michael didn't even deny sleeping alone in the same bed not only at his ranch but at the chandler kids house, and multiple other boys, and regularly

this, the FBI can find anything on anyone
being a fucking weirdo =/= being a monster

>we all love Michael so he gets a pass

But the evidence doesn't prove he did: even when some lawyers begged for a criminal case, the accusers opted for a civil one (maybe because it pays?)

Also weren't the allegations presented were almost copied from an old book years ago?

>24 posters
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Jfl at all of the shilling and inevitable samefagging.

ya I saw this too maybe she took it back later apparently or maybe it was another woman he was with?

just to play devils advocate lack of evidence doesnt really mean anything eithet way and he was investigated after being formally accused so he would've been being a lot more careful. doubt he'd ever have been dumb enough to keep actual child porn around but he did have those photos of naked adults with kids faces? and naked teenaged boy "art books" and shit like that


still not sure what i think though desu

they are saying its understandable that he wanted to have a sleepover with kids like a little kid

>Being a grown man
>Wanting to have sleepovers with young lads

Absolutely FOUL.

The reason I cant trust shit like this is they took books that contained shit like naked angel kids like those statues and conveniently left out that part and just said he had pictures of naked kids in them

agreed in most cases and its certainly weird and creepy but if he was mentally damaged enough from having no childhood to believe he was a kid and want to have sleepovers like one assuming that they were as innocent as the ones kids have should that really be a crime?

If some guy wanted to have a sleepover with my kids I'd call the police immediately.

Thriller is and always will be a 10/10
this is an indisputable fact

I'm more of a Smooth Criminal kind of guy.

it just became 11/10

yeah thats just being smart and regardless if anything happened it shouldnt happen again, but i was saying if he had an innocent sleepover like a kid what can you charge him with? if anything it would make me feel bad for him that his dad fucked him up that bad. obviously this is all up in the air but Its an alternate theory that makes sense

Reminder that Jackson was smeared and eventually murdered for standing up against the (((corporate music establishment))) and buying out major parts of the Sony catalog. As he said in recorded phone calls that can be found easily online, he was completely aware of "the jews" (his words) controlling, exploiting, and destroying artists through monetary and psychological manipulation. Pic related is several tweets his daughter Paris Jackson made on this subject before being sent to "rehab" - same thing that happens to every mk celebrity when they get out of control. Also, Paris has publicly maintained that Michael was 100% murdered since his death.

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I WANNA LOVE YOU
PRETTY YOUNG THING
YOU NEED SOME LOVIN'
TENDER LOVIN' CARE
AND I'LL TAKE YOU THERE

MJ innocent this doc is trash

leave streaming XD

Yea the media were so bad with that shit. But to me it was more damning that the art books were locked in a cabinet, and then the others that were in his bedroom were right by his own bed, alongside adult pornography, and child sexual educational books, all in a safe near his bed, including a few adult pornographic art pieces on beside his bed. It's odd af that he'd keep the stuff together if it wasn't related right?

Also there were the kids fingerprints on some of the pornographic material and not enough that the kids would've been looking at them on their own, which could mean "someone" was likely showing them to them.

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Hey who is supppsedly like behind the smear campaign if there was one, like who and why? Just noticed I'm seeing this a lot

You're insane. Drive yourself to the mental hospital right now.

Someone’s upset

He said he slept on the floor while the kids slept on the bed. It wasn't like they weren't under any supervision, there were other adults in the room.

What exactly is "insane" about that post? It's entirely just a recounting of facts -
Fact: MJ was extremely antagonistic towards the industry, was buying up large parts of corporate catalogs, and said in a recorded phone conversation that "the jews" were controlling the industry and destroying artists
Fact: Paris Jackson posted those images to twitter before being submitted to rehab
Fact: Paris has maintained since his death that Michael was murdered, including in recent interviews

Even mcauly caulkin and his bro and robson while he was still maintaining that michael was innocent all admitted they slept in the same bed, and its pretty well documented that he -slept alone- with at least 5 of the boys, its not any kind of secret or rumour. The kids defending michael even admitted it

That sleep on the floor thing is pretty old and idk where it even came from bc michael didnt maintain it

>>>x

See >lol CRAZY!!!!!
is not a legitimate response to observable facts that point in an obvious direction.

fake news

Not that guy.. But I think the crazy part is being convinced he was smeared and murdered in some kind of plot just bc he was paranoid and passed that onto his daughter

I mean theres just as much reason to believe Michaels sister who tried to tell the world he was a pedo, in that it's all just hearsay.

>believing that jews control the music industry and that the industry intentionally exploits and destroys artists is "paranoid"
Is it 1990? How are there still people like this? How is it possible to be this fucking dense after having had the internet for 20 years?

He never grew up and developed his adolescent sexuality at age 30 and had the power and influence to actually get with boys who didnt know any better

Fuck his dad for abusing him as a kid and fuck him for surrounding himself with yes-men who would never point out how sick he actually was instead of getting help so he wouldnt continue the cycle of abuse

The cases against Michael were messy, people didn't want to continue, couldn't even get their stories straight etc. They wouldve had a better case and the kids and adults wouldve had their stories straight. Charges dropped. You think if it was an organized conspiracy that they couldn't have done better than that? Also fits too well since he was alone with children so often and they still couldn't pin anything on him.
It seems more likely that they would've straight murdered him from the start, or did.
Surely you realize as rich as Michael was that "the jews" had a lot of direct control in his success and a lot of monetary power.

MICHAEL JACKSON INNOCENT !!!!!!!!!!

>he didnt do it muh fucked up childhood

i get it you like his music but please stop just dismissing this 100% bc "oh dude he was weird he didnt have a childhood bro" biggest copout answer.