Is he really a genius of electronic music?

I disagree. I find that afx is a great composer but lacks in sound design. Analord is why i think this.

syro has both. insane compositions and lush sound design. i personally don't like it as much as Drukqs but as a whole it is peak aphex twin, best of both words.

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Opposite of the truth. His sound design was always unique and interesting but except in a few cases never really that impressive. What's good and impressive about his music is the composition.

Drukqs is a good example. It has very basic sound design for the most part. The reason it's regarded as such a terrifying monolith by so many producers is because of the absolutely fucked up level of compositional density.

His melodic, harmonic, and timbral sense is just way way way beyond anyone else in electronic music, or outside of it for the most part and what he communicates in his more melodic work is among the most touching and human feeling I've found in any music.

Insanely talented at self-promotion and spreading misinformation to build his image (e.g. tricking people into thinking he drives a tank). Not so good at music.

Richard does not have a single bad release, it's all top notch big tunes. Prove me wrong.

>getting hung up on armoured car vs tank
>Aphex Twin not so good at music

Zoomer pleb autistic contrarian confirmed

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I like the Irish bastard

Smojphace

Terms like genius in this context is unhelpful because of the many people who influenced and therefore contributed at least indirectly to his work. Art isn't some contest, and to see it in such terms is ass-backwards. He is a genuinely great musician, like countless others, who took his influences and added his own take to them. He has his own signature, that's the best any artist could hope for. It also happens to be a damn good one.

He used to be ahead of the curve, but he's still pretty decent

Tangerine Dream are the grandfathers of electronic music, Aphex is good but is way overrated.

Syro exist

beloved by precocious 14 year olds and tourists worldwide

His stuff gives me a weird feeling. Like it's not really my thing but I like it nontheless.

nice bait
its not that bad
i bet most people start their electronica journey with aphex twin because muh tourism
i didnt explore his discography for a long time,
before i did i first explored many synthwave artists, electronica, ambients, dark ambients etc etc
After having listened to many electro related artists i had low expectations for what Aphex Twin might surprise me with, and then i listened to fucking record from 1992 and i got blown away how fresh everything was, aged very well.
He was ahead of the curve in his time. Now he's just a very good electronica artist. Quirky and nice.

>terms like genius are unhelpful because influences
So Straus, Schuman, Chopin, Schubert etc can all be discounted as musical geniuses on grounds of their having been influenced by Mozart and Bach and Beethoven and Liszt?
Oh and Picasso isn't an artistic genius because he was influenced by Van Gogh and Cézanne and Goya
Literally autistic
>Art isn't some contest
Maybe not in and of itself i.e. the standalone act of creative (self-) expression, but you've already alluded to the importance of context, and I would argue that in the 21st century owing to the commercialisation of art and instant access media, art has become a context. Besides the obvious fact that we have the Pullizter, Man Booker, Turner, Grammys, Brit Awards, the Oscars etc which are art contests with winners and losers, there is contest online to be recognised for your art in this world of streaming and Soundcloud and DeviantArt, it's so easy these days to create and share your art and people are engaged in a contest to be seen/heard

pleb zoomer confirmed

cringe

>Grimes

No one can answer this. And then they call Aphex Twin overrated

You need to actually make electronic music to aprecciate what he does.
His level of composition and his ear are insane, in part because he had synesthesia.
Also he has great taste. Guys like him come every 50 years.

What's all this complaining about him being a genre tourist? You sound like black bitches complaining about a prettier woman wearing hoops

>some assumptions
>then some more
The term genius is fairly overloaded to the point of being basically meaningless. No one is discounting originality, that's absurd. More the idea that the genius somehow creates ex nihilo, also absurd.

he's very skilled, both as a musician but he knows his shit when it comes to hardware
he's a tinkerer, likes to fiddle around and doesnt give a shit about anything, thats why hes such a good musician

has a solid musical background and hes able to translate his thoughts into music very easily
sometimes I have the feeling 80% of hi work is a very well elaborated ruse, but nonetheless he has always proved to be extremely proficient, also has spent thousand hours composing so hes' obviously above par compared to any other electronic musician

Squarepusher

Lmao

Aphex Twin is the John Cage of /bloop/ music. Gimmicks over substance.

But he does have some actual skill. The Analord series has a few good tracks.

>Gimmicks over substance.
What gimmick

Ventolin is the worst example. Simulated salbutamol induced tinnitus is not music.

he releases non serious tracks, a lot of the times it's him taking a piss
youtu.be/qXKXCqAaEqs
but the amount tracks that he releases that are like that are just a drop in the bucket

Wtf are u actually talking about? Did you not understand what I said?

Aphex Twin is a musical genius u stupid fuck

>the term genius is fairly overloaded
How tho? Perhaps overused, but not overloaded; and it's only overused by casual listeners and fans, critics are very reluctant to assign genius to artists
You are clearly simple

Dictionary result for genius
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noun
noun: genius; plural noun: geniuses
1.
exceptional intellectual or creative power or other natural ability.

Meant to direct this to this not

Love him... but place him behind Jarre, Tangerine Dream and even Orbital (I know, I know).

I've already explained what meant. I'm attacking the notion that a genius creates without any influence or debt to creative forebears. I find nothing at all offensive with the definition you provide.

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>Is he really a genius of electronic music?
Yes.
youtube.com/watch?v=wSYAZnQmffg

he's an incredible musician but his music isn't the be all and end all of electronic music

>Orbital (I know, I know).
Why? In Sides is more cohesive then most aphex albums.

I wouldn't necessarily say this is better than Aphex, but people who are into Drukqs and DSP fuckery in general should definitely check out the pic-related, which was released 3 years before Drukqs. It's brilliant.

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I cannot bring myself to enjoy any of his work. I'm not saying it's bad, I just don't care for it at all.

In Sides is one of my all times faves... my favorite Aphex album is his first, which is a collection, not a cohesive album. But some people (on mu and elsewhere) have razzed me for being an Orbital fan, likely because they went "down hill" then retired... but are now back. In any case Orbital's first four albums were _the Bomb_ back in the day.

*Sigh*

OP asks the question:
>Is Aphex a genius of electronic music?

You respond:
>Terms like genius in this context are unhelpful because Aphex was influenced by people

I respond proving that genius can have its influences (literally only brainlets would disagree)

You respond >the term genius is fairly overloaded

It isn't and here I give you the definition which u agree with (find nothing offensive towards)

Then here you say that your point all along has to do with "attacking the notion that a genius creates without any influence or debt to creative forebears."

Literally that ""notion"" hasn't been asserted once in this thread, and you'd have to be a autist pleb to assert in anywhere else for that matter, you have no point, all great artistic geniuses had/have their influences, YOU'RE the one being unhelpful

Everyone in music owes a debt to JS Bach... so what. Aphex _IS_ a creative genius.

I can see what they mean when they say orbital went down hill. I like the altogether and i really like wonky but monsters exist was hit or miss and blue album was just miss.

I can see what they mean when they say orbital went down hill. I like the altogether and i really like wonky but monsters exist was hit or miss and blue album was just miss. Most later albums never recaptured the magic of snivilization, in sides, or the brown album.

based and redpilled

We were talking past each other, and still are to some extent. Take care, user. I love Richard D. James; music, too.

I like Cliffs it might be my favourite song

he's good. say what you want about him, you can't deny that druqks, rushup edge and syro are very skillfully put together

Why are aphex tards some of the most autistic people.Every aphex fan boy i've met have been severely autistic

Its called IDM for a reason.

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