/metal/

only war is real edition

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stygianblackhand.bandcamp.com/album/primitive-warfare
youtube.com/watch?v=-nHyvMQV_yA
youtube.com/watch?v=sRicvsePJR4&list=PLwU2-RQ4dNMFjPwk6KA84rgKUx9IUZ7Wz&index=2
youtu.be/MimlIenWblc
youtube.com/watch?v=_dm0FGqPb9c
youtube.com/watch?v=fSHveknSuoU
youtube.com/watch?v=OxgVmpAk538
youtube.com/watch?v=XKSu-wZChcQ
funerealpresence.bandcamp.com/album/achatius
youtube.com/watch?v=8CniXEqjkP4
youtube.com/watch?v=-AKKh4kiR7Q
hulder.bandcamp.com/album/ascending-the-raven-stone
youtube.com/watch?v=MM20BnLGuIM
youtube.com/watch?v=BB3OGwplrLo
youtube.com/watch?v=1L5MGkgVJUE
youtube.com/watch?v=bFwpXdIHWso
youtube.com/watch?v=mUlTUjbWhMs
youtube.com/watch?v=iXdn7A4utXw
vimur.bandcamp.com/album/triumphant-master-of-fates
youtu.be/BhZ2_uxTBXA
youtube.com/watch?v=cDP1bdYeAxE
youtube.com/watch?v=ecpizPXBE4A
youtube.com/watch?v=Yut2c_7LMvg
youtube.com/watch?v=ZLIG-gHxdRo
youtube.com/watch?v=8fekDHLOXas
youtube.com/watch?v=Zq1Rn5N9lHc
youtube.com/watch?v=tXXw54zVmMQ
youtube.com/watch?v=mkF1hnGsnGM
youtu.be/JnopcPhkjXk
pulchramorte.bandcamp.com/album/divina-autem-et-aniles
youtube.com/watch?v=p-yRu5jbt3Y
youtube.com/watch?v=hp8XXqiD2HQ
youtube.com/watch?v=ODhMdujZeEY
youtube.com/watch?v=CN4IIgFz93k
youtube.com/watch?v=dEMhvCCVW_8
youtube.com/watch?v=hVVzgYDIbdk
youtube.com/watch?v=tKkbdKmixpk
mediafire.com/?xz606w6666bqw
mediafire.com/?cte6ayd6w154y
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pick one

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first for surreal and philosophical prog-thrash

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dismember

Carnage

from those three i'd go without a doubt with Like an Everflowing Stream, it's the most fun to listen imo

Glack metal :^)
I’m hlqck btw
(Nrgoid)

swedeath is soulless

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU FAGGOTS BLASTING?

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stygianblackhand.bandcamp.com/album/primitive-warfare

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Dismember

btw dubs for melodeath rocks

dismember easily

IT'S OUT
youtube.com/watch?v=-nHyvMQV_yA

Clandestine because Nicke's vocals are 10/10

none of these will ever compare to speedböoghzer

What's your favourite metal shirt that you have?

But we're getting a new Speedböozer LP soon! Right user? R-Right?

SHUT THE FUCK UP

I have never listened to any of these. Am I missing out?

right

That intro riff is just top notch.

my favorite emperor album
youtube.com/watch?v=sRicvsePJR4&list=PLwU2-RQ4dNMFjPwk6KA84rgKUx9IUZ7Wz&index=2

I have an AJFA Metallica shirt I got 10 or 11 years ago that still fits. Think it's a bootleg of this one.

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>people like this post here

Bathory's s/t one because it's my good luck charm.

Carbonized - For the Security long sleeve

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Got a Leprosy shirt. The print has faded from use but it makes the print look more low quality and I dig it.

tfw don't want to buy a metal shirt so I don't look like im in fuckin highschool

An old Enslaved shirt, with the old logo (green) in the front, and some text about the "rising army of the north star" in the back. It's faded really horribly, almost to light grey, but I keep it for sentimental reasons. cba to take photo.

and in the end you're a faggot

>no greentext
>faggot blogpost
leave my thread

>Nargaroth's post about The Lords of Chaos on Facebook
It's fucking cringe no matter how you look at it.
>inb4 tourists start defending him

youtu.be/MimlIenWblc

If anyone is interested I've been listening tho this lately. I guess is not "war" but is pretty cool black pagan metal, I recomend it if someone is interested in that sort of stuff

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>tfw has more confidence than just "waa waa what if others think im weird waa"
Just fucking get one if you want one or shut up otherwise

>Nargaroth
meh, not even once.

All I have left of bandshirts is a plain black T with the isengard logo (the spooky ghost one).

left hand path obviously

What's your favorite black metal instrumental band?
youtube.com/watch?v=_dm0FGqPb9c

Oh boy, actually that's a plate cuirass, not a metal shirt.

fuck, that was some white people shit

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whites are superior though

Left Hand Path, but also Clandestine

I need some nigger shit

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Best BM album of 2019 so far

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Wrong, new Tuman is.

CAUSE I'M BLEEDING LIKE SINNERS BLEEEEEEEEEEEEED

Name? Reverse image search doesn't help

Like an Ever Flowing Stream because it's the most consistent even though Left Hand Path's title track is a top 10 death metal song
Checked
Leprosy

*ahem*

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Based

Weird how it helped for me

In terms of pure atmosphere, Dungeon Synth and incorporated synth in Black Metal are the most Kvlt things there are.

For example, take Det Som Engang Var. The opening and the synth parts that feature throughout the song really set the mood and tone of everything. Personally it allows my imagination to wander and create worlds aroun me way before the guitars kick in.

youtube.com/watch?v=fSHveknSuoU
youtube.com/watch?v=OxgVmpAk538
youtube.com/watch?v=XKSu-wZChcQ

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agreed

>anti-semitic
not cool bro

searh engines don't provide the same search results for different people, google especially doesn't

:(

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funeral presence

scroll down you lazy fuck

I accept defeat, it's Achatius by Funereal Presence.
funerealpresence.bandcamp.com/album/achatius

link it

Thanks anons

I'm a moron, ignore the post.

Who is the best live artist/band you've seen, /metal/?

Modern Dimmu Borgir!

is /meal/ retarded?

Honestly Overkill, the energy was fucking incredible, the dudes still acted like they were in their 20s.

Post more top releases from 2019
youtube.com/watch?v=8CniXEqjkP4

youtube.com/watch?v=-AKKh4kiR7Q

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Can't tell if popular for an underground release because good or because tits made it
hulder.bandcamp.com/album/ascending-the-raven-stone

Has there EVER been a more bandwaggon jumping band than Darkthrone? They switched from death metal to black metal because they were scared of Euronymous and they "eternally dedicated" their second full-length album to him. Then when Varg killed Euronymous they let him participate in both their fourth and fifth full-length albums, ironically enough. Then they switched from black metal to an unbearable fusion of black/heavy/speed in an attempt to "pay homage to old bands" or some bullshit like that. What the fuck is their career? It's frankly disgusting.

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I've thought about this myelf, and then realized, why do I even care, then went back to living my life.

ZOMBEH

Yes, and so is all of Yea Forums

meh i respect fenriz for letting varg participate after he was sent to prison and still says good things about him to this day

Did EDM man rip off Tormentor?
youtube.com/watch?v=MM20BnLGuIM
youtube.com/watch?v=BB3OGwplrLo

Metallica, because that was my first show

other than that probably Birds in Row

is this another mayhem, darkthrone, burzum jerk off episode? go stick a tampon up your ass

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Best Dismember album coming through.

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RITH
EUW
AAAUUWHLLL

kek

t. 2 trve 4 v

Based

I must have missed something if crust/heavy metal fusion was ever a bandwagon that someone could even jump on. The only sellout-y stuff they've done are the black metal throwback albums. They're the opposite of commercially viable.

Did you mean new Darkened Nocturn Slaughtercult?

Based

Am I doing it right

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probably my horrified shirt or my scum longsleeve

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Yes

Yeah. Rust in peace is fantastic.

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Its a Black Sabbath t shirt that's just Vol.4 but in orange and without Ozzy

>implying he isnt of the many retards that wear band shirts yet dont know the band
youtube.com/watch?v=1L5MGkgVJUE

fitting track
youtube.com/watch?v=bFwpXdIHWso

Death Grips

>cope

The last song is good, but probably moreso because a vagina created it.

>basically one of the best grind bands and create the whole subgenre alongside other few bands
>pussy out and become a death metal band
>make shitty dead kennedys cover and 2 good songs on your death metal phase
>everyone knows you because of that
>current singer is a chubby communist that doesnt even growl
i mean like how can you ruin a band so much?

>fuck, that was some white people shit
Wtf did you expect, nigger getto rap?

Didn't Varg not get along with them when he was talking to earache because they thought he was a bad goy?

>another burzum knockoff
hard pass

Migrate

I AM THE REAPER
SOLEMN AND GRIM
I RELIEVE PAIN
LET THE END BEGIN

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im pretty sure it was because the earache promotors didnt want him signing because of the politics but everyone else on earache wanted him in

varg said the australian guy at earache was a leftist and didn't want varg to be political so digby just asked him to not speak about his politics but obviously varg turned them down

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Remember this piece of cringe?
youtube.com/watch?v=mUlTUjbWhMs

Don't get me wrong tho, old nd is awesome. It's the band that got me going into extreme music. I saw some dude wearing a np death tour t shirt at a hot sauce convention.

youtube.com/watch?v=iXdn7A4utXw

Really? Didn't seem very burzumish to me. Also, good Burzum knockoffs can come my way, Burzum is the only good black metal band.

spotted the year one listener tourist

same kind of riffs, same kind of "atmosphere", same production sound
not saying she's bad just really fucking boring

Nah I've been scouring for black metal for over 11 years now. After all that time, I've just become bored with all of it.

I knew that you all also liked kpop, at least secretly

I'm sure she'll mature with time. Good bands usually release a few worship demos and then one with their own sound. I thought that would happen with this band, but it's still just boring as fuck.
vimur.bandcamp.com/album/triumphant-master-of-fates

>keeps scouring black metal for 11 years even though he thinks none of it is good
yeah probably "tourist" isn't accurate, you're just retarded

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Getting tired of something after constant exposure for over a decade is retarded? You never let me down /metal/.

>Burzum is the only good black metal band
>I've been scouring for black metal for over 11 years now

A tie between my Sepultura BTR t-shirt or my Godflesh s/t t-shirt.

rude with him

go back to your kpop general tranny faggot

not sure if tourist or retard or both

how you know it

Omg varg is like so famous right now!

so popular

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youtu.be/BhZ2_uxTBXA
I'm getting my Revenge T-shirt in the mail soon!

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Stop mocking Neurosis you homos

>sodomy
So the rumour that war metal dudes are fags is true

You should, since you are both.

To bad everyone and there mom has one.

What's the gayest metal band?

Gaylord

Neurosis

bit rich coming from you

Gaahl's WYRD

your favourite band

your band

Go back to listen to Deafheaven you fag

fuckin homo

fucking IDIOTS

Judas priest

Bathory

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t. numale

Whatever you say retarded tourist.

Excuse me, what kind of air vibrations are you emitting currently through your preffered sound projecting device into your eardrums?
Let me add, i'm fond of the album on picture related
my reception is positive and my day is saved.

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Under a blackend sky

what is your problem honestly?

SHUT THE FUCK UP

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Not wrong. New Vehemence is arguably better than their previous release too, which is impressive

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>Calls other people retarded
>Gets called retarded back
>Dude relax what's your problem
Classic.

>Yeah I like war metal, how did you know?

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Actually it's okay to be gay

Cause of your $15 gasmask and blashemy shirt

>Yeah I like war metal, how did you know?

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Warlocks are rad

It's a warbeast you uncultured fuck

suck a cock with a large foreskin

warlock is my favorite wow class

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Is black metal gay?

why are you talking about your gay fantasies on a metal thread?

Yeah pretty much

ITS TIME FÖR MÖRE ÖCCÜLT LEATHER THRASHING SEPÜLCHRAL RIFFS
youtube.com/watch?v=cDP1bdYeAxE
youtube.com/watch?v=ecpizPXBE4A
youtube.com/watch?v=Yut2c_7LMvg
youtube.com/watch?v=ZLIG-gHxdRo
youtube.com/watch?v=8fekDHLOXas
youtube.com/watch?v=Zq1Rn5N9lHc
youtube.com/watch?v=tXXw54zVmMQ
youtube.com/watch?v=mkF1hnGsnGM

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Not rad. Needs to be a $200 Bronze Warlock to be legit.

extremely

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hella gayin bro

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he does not like easy bitches

>why are you talking about your gay fantasies on a metal thread?

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norges are hot

I'm gay

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Nordmenn*

can't come up with a good response so post jimmy numale becuase people are making fun of his numale band, when every thread we been trying to stop posting soibois.

fuck out of my thread

How hard is it to learn the violin if the only training with an instrument I have is badly playing the recorder 17 years ago?

better question, is black metal the boy band genre of metal?

Nah that's melodeath

Native Construct

Unironically based
youtu.be/JnopcPhkjXk

people don't celebrity worship people in melodeath bands like they do black metal tho.

not really a genre but boy band metal is exactly what visual kei is

yeah, but the bands come off much more like boy bands

Ever Flowing Stream easy. Just straight up sounds better and is more interesting than the other two

ahem

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who?

only DSBM bois for depressed tumblr grrls *rawr*

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well explain why it's a numale band then. for me numale bands are shit like Deafheaven, Bring me the Horizon, etc

>soiwork

pulchramorte.bandcamp.com/album/divina-autem-et-aniles

all nu-metal is
and no, it's not just because they both have nu in the name, zoomer

youtube.com/watch?v=p-yRu5jbt3Y

hmm, sounds like something that would be made mid 2000s with more modern production. Cool artwork, chill listen.

kek

NO, YOU

>Neurosis
>nu-metal
Low quality bait

>faggot coping trying to make us spoonfeed him
nice try

I remember when I liked Linkin Park

im triggered by this shitpost; early war metal bands may have been deprived of technique but not creativity. please explicitly describe where black witchery stole from korn

The intro to Det Som is based on a techno song by The Martian

There are still 40-50 year olds that like that shit and a7x. Don't feel bad.

Met a girl on Tumblr once. Awful experience.

My mom is trve. Sorry your's isn't :(
Unironically Gorgoroth.

hey, good bands
not kvlt but good in their own gay right

does anyone know anything that sounds like pic related

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Why he is there

I sure hope not

Norther

early Norther

Ah I remember being 14

New pissgrave fucking ripps

what it some essential rural french black metal?

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Does Quebec count?

what the fuck is quebec

a larp place in mooseland

Nah this is

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youtube.com/watch?v=hp8XXqiD2HQ
deathrash

checked

nice quads faggot

Thanks nig

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Iron Maiden during the somewhere back in time tour

Unironically Corrosion of Conformity. I saw them and eyehategod open for black label society. Fun show.

>/metal/ says an album sucks
>check it out
>actually is good
thank you /metal/

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embarrassing

>/metal/ says an album sucks
>check it out
>it sucks
>post on /metal/ saying it sucks
>get called soi

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What's it's name /meal/

the good old days
youtube.com/watch?v=ODhMdujZeEY

you cannot win

I was an adtr fan in highschool

youtube.com/watch?v=CN4IIgFz93k

that's /meal/ for you

Manowar

we have a winner

It's the same winner every thread, it's what id vote for too.

Their best album for sure.

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This album is pretty fucking good. Total Bathory/early Sodom/Onslaught worship

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Anyone likes Grand Belial's Key?

youtube.com/watch?v=dEMhvCCVW_8

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you are all a colossal niggers

I know

Either a plain black Darkthrone shirt with the "True Norwegian Black Metal" text on the back, or a bootleg Burzum shirt with the "Hvis Lyset Tar Oss" album art on the front and album title on the back.
I've worn the Burzum one several times on stage, and its falling apart now. Its full of holes, which makes it look even cooler in my opinion.

Is he based?

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His(or more like you) name is like mine so yes

I choose Edge of Sanity - Crimson

atleast you liked them at some point :)

>pick one
like an everflowing stream,
left hand path is overrated

Everyone who thinks LHP is amazing mostly remembers the first 2 tracks, which are amazing.

Here, have the definitive version.

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So let's talk about them.

I'M NOT A VAMPIRE BUT I FEEL LIKE ONE
I

LET EVERYTHING WHICH HATH BREATH PRAISE THE LORD

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varg

fuck you both if you actually give a shit what anyone here says without forming your opinion on it

Morbid Angel 1989
youtube.com/watch?v=hVVzgYDIbdk

haha let's make fun of someone who enjoys himself

who will play him in the inevitable biopic?

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a fat jewish guy apparently

Hell yeah!

What's so wrong with mgla? It's kinda generic, but it's very decently played black metal.
Is it a meme to hate on it?

decently played black metal is an oxymoron

>it's meant to be shit!

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I wouldn't really call them generic, at least as far as their latest album goes, but what do you think is the jig here? I'd reckon a lot of people ITT wouldn't shit on them nearly as much if it wasn't for people that don't know shit about black metal proclaiming them as the definitive GOAT and what not. I really liked Exercise in futility because it was one of my first albums during my /nbbmn/ several years back and it started growing on me with each consecutive listen, but it's certainly not near the all time greats.like Mayhem.

Carnage

war metal sux

thats how I feel about, the title track is a classic but the rest of the album is boring

INCINERATED EXISTENCE
EVEN DEATH CAN FUCKING LAAAAAAAST

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>boring
the number one way to exclude yourself from any present argument

There is no such thing as Dismembercore or Carnagecore, but there is such a thing as Entombedcore. That being said, still LAEF just because of the two good tracks on it.

As if LAEF has any other good tracks except Override and Dismembered.

This desu. Goteborg BTFO'd Stockholm in this one, since Swedish melodeath is much much better.

Sentenced took a big dump on meloshit in general with their second album being above the competition and it ain't even close.

@86230009
what do you mean

Why is Anthems better than the Nightside Eclipse?

Primordial "Redemption at the puritan's hand".

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What's even good from Gothenburg, besides early AtG?

It's worse in every conceivable way though

I like the writing on it a lot more and it's an album that has sentimental value on top of being great in its own right. The only weakness it has is its lackluster production, but otherwise it's better than anything else they've done.

Dark Tranquillity, and since they churned out a shitload of albums they count as many than one band. At least to me, they have different styles without drifting too far afield, like In Flames did. Maybe the best melodeath band or the second bast after Kalmah to me.

They were always shit and have 0 good albums, fuck off.

mine's the same remaster artwork but yellow with red eyes

Blaze in the northern sky, I like under a funeral moon more as an album but homeboy jumping in corpse paint looks cooler.

I can see why people would dislike a lot of their output before the Exercises In Futility album. It sounds a lot like the kind of melodic black metal associated with Dissection, Sacramentum, and Vinterland. But at the same time on those records they would often hold onto a riff/section too long compared to those classic bands to where it would feel like too much repetition, a lot of their multiguitar parts aren't as theatrical as those classic bands, and the songs were structurally much more straightforward. The result to many make Mgla seem like a pale imitation.

But I don't think many dislike Exercises In Futility. Mgla finally kinda has their own style on this album where there's some tricks you may recognize from 2nd wave black metal and even some you may recognize from a band like Deathspell Omega (but no jazzy chords.) The end result has made for something very much fan acclaimed, but I don't think it will reach at absolute top heights of the 2nd wave because the end result is not as catchy as the 2nd wave stuff instead it's got a darker feel to it.

Why are you so rude? I haven't liked a single In Flames album but they have a solid fanbase and who am I to talk gibberish about their preferences, it's just that it can't grow on me. Dark Tranquillity has awesome technicality and the vocals aren't shrieked beyond the uncanny valley like the IF vocalist did.

Sea Hag.

DT was close to being good, but like almost all melodeath bands they suffer greatly from "bored singer syndrome." Meaning the vocalist doesn't play an instrument so he has nothing to do during a song except fill every fucking second with monotonous barks. A good singer knows when to pull back and let the music do the talking, especially in extreme metal where the vocals don't have any melodic function.

>Dark Tranquillity has awesome technicality and the vocals aren't shrieked beyond the uncanny valley like the IF vocalist did.
Because I gave it a few listens and it was pop masquerading as metal with muh harsh vocals that sound really, really bad. CoB has a large following, but they're garbage all the same so what does that have to do with anything?

ok post nu metal albums that fucking SLAP

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vagr

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Tell me more, also checked.

Everything on Anthems takes more advantage of what the band offers to deliver a more "complete" experience. The synths don't feel like a gimmick anymore, the synth parts are more robust. Guitars and drums also just deliver more variety in riffing. Does the end result not have the "atmosphere" of In The Nightside Eclipse? Sure, but In the Nightside Eclipse didn't do atmosphere that well either, it's just riff, riff, riff, riff and all the riffs were samey/technical with it just feeling like a display of boring technicality.

There’s so much shit going on. I don’t understand.

All you need to understand that he is one with thee, he has the eternal power, and that he is the emperor.

The Mgła I've heard overuses "sentimental" chord progressions with a peppering of open string dissonance. It's probably appealing to guys who grew up on emo and post hardcore, but not Slayer.

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holy shit this album is the fucking shit duuuude

Yeah, that's why I classified Kalmah as being above them, they have those riveting solos, which in DT aren't really in the limelight. I mean, they are, and you're skewing the facts too much
>every fucking second
but still, what is good melodeath for you?

For me, it is Kalmah > DT > Insomnium > At the Gates > Wintersun > Be'lakor > Norther

Norther would be higher because of the technicality but their lyrics are so childish and something an edgy pre-teen would like, at most. The lyrical part is not at all thought over and only incidentally tackled as something to add to the instrumental. The other bands I know too little about or they aren't worthy of being there because they are too bland.

Why is CoB garbage too? Is it pop too? Dark Tranquillity has well thought lyrics (it's MELOdeath and they aren't supposed to be about gore, anatomy and that horror atmosphere overall). You're too whimsical.

Compare CoB and other garbage tier melodeath bands to this and you'll see why.
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Unironically it is very good

Pop music doesn't have constantly developing melodies the way a track like Punish My Heaven by DT does. Pop's most prominent melodic parts come from the vocals, not the guitars. Especially not as fancy as a lot of what DT does, which is more in line with stuff from the likes of Sabbath, Priest, Maiden and Metallica. Though it wouldn't surprise me that someone as close minded as you wouldn't be able to realize that. This inability to appreciate a certain kind of metal due to misconceptions about accessibility to similarity to non-metal doesn't make you a more hardcore metal fan, just one who is too close minded to be able to appreciate anything that isn't boring colorless blunt riffs.

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This sounds good but different, also sounds more like black metal to me, from 1:30 to 1:50 it reminds me of Goatmoon.

Some band from my town, old mediafire links are dead though :(

These guys predate Goatmoon by a decade, and the reason it may sound like death metal is because of its melodical nature and the fact that early on both death and black were really similar, but then went their own ways and changed considerably.

Know the feel.

>:(

i think its time to go back

It would appeal to guys who grew up on 2nd wave and onward black metal that uses similar tricks. Not sure how this is frowned upon yet something like Dreamer Deceiver by Priest isn't.

>doesn't make you a more hardcore metal fan
Stop pulling shit like this from your ass.

meant to say black metal, fuck my tired ass.

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Oh hey I lied :)

I don't think Anthems sounds like a band at all. It's the first major step towards Emperor becoming an Ihsahn solo project. The indulgence of ideas, particularly in the overwrought synth arrangements, are not tempered by the primitive power chord riffs of Samoth, nor the no-frills aggression of Faust. And I find it strange you'd call ITNE a technical riff soup, since that's exactly what most of Anthems is to an even greater degree. That's probably why IX Equilibrium was much more simple and to the point by comparison, Ihsahn probably got tired of writing clusterfuck songs that were hard to play live.

Most of the melodies on this are pretty boring compared to DT's and COB's earlier work. Production values lack oomph as well. No point in being raw when you lose that.
Not pulling anything out. Like, your taste is just as limited as the average pop listener if you can only enjoy what is ultimately a subset of the metal genre.

Of course he'll be attracted to rawness because he's in for the edge and not for the quality of the music. What's baffling me is that he runs down other's preferences, but this behaviour usually goes hand in hand with being a snobbish edgelord.

HEVY METAL CHENSAW

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>tfw grew up on gay metalcore and old thrash

>most of the melodies are boring
Au contraire, that album trumps both of those bands discographies by a mile.

>not pulling anything out
Yeah, you are and don't pretend like that's not the case.

I find the better 2nd wave bands defer the sentimental bits until later in the song, so it has some kind of build up. Like the first song on Setherial's Nord has this riff a few minutes in that would be laughably cheesy if it was right at the beginning. This is why I never liked Vinterland, they also give you too much sentimentality right out the gate.

70s Priest is accepted because of the time it was made. We all ignore the fact that "Beyond the Realms of Death" sounds like fucking Bad Company.

Sounds like death metal to me on first glance, at least judging by the first track, but I dig it so I'll check the rest tomorrow. Thanks for sharing!

Was having a gazillion technical ideas Ihsahn's mainly? Yeah. Does it still make for a far more colorful, interesting listen with personality at the end of the day? Yup. I have no issues with technicality, it's just that it's used to write boring mostly fast riffs in ITNE meanwhile it's used to give Anthems more variety in riffs to ultimately make it feel so majestic, grandiose, and romantic. From what I have heard it was the band members that really wanted Ihsahn to chill with this shit.

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new thread?

Well if you think ITNE riffs are boring, we just wont see eye to eye. The production obscures a lot, but where Ihsahn shined as a musician is how he took these pretty normal black metal riffs and injected all sorts of insane chord voicings and dissonance to make them more interesting. But he never disrupts the pace of the song to add his circus music or "epic" clean sung moments, but for the end of the album.

Are you saying that if Dreamer Deceiver was released today it would not be good? Cuz that track is still sick as fuck.

Also, if we are talking about 'cheesy riffs' at start in the 90s, The Somberlain t/t is up there and I would argue in terms of being more emotional, so is Dunkelheit.

That's the thing, except a couple songs like Black Wizards, the pace stays samey in ITNE. It makes the music feel boring and one dimensional.