Based

truly galaxy brain stuff. it's like saying ah yes because i didnt exist and cant possibly know what it was like to simply be during 400BC i'll forgo reading or critiquing the work of Plato, out of respect for his time and culture and experience and not wanting to appropriate his ideas

I become irrationally angry every time I read this argument. Holy fucking shit.

Oh okay, then she's based. Fuck fantano

>ok i can take criticism
>but i cant lol
this is your brain on veganism

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>doesn't even @ them
What a coward

Rap cannot keep its exclusivity and gatekeeping ways if it’s the most popular genre at the moment

>it's not tge argument that matters, but sides of the argument
How are you different from twitter bitches, retard?

i'm not letting some millennial mix race woman "musician" telling me shit about a white man's music review. too much dip on your fuckin chip.

I don't care, I just like when Fantano seethes. But also, he got himself into this mess trying to pretend he's an important voice in hip hop.

>too much dip on the chip
Are you implying >she
is a tranny?

seriously, wtf is she on? "hurr you don't understand the hustle durr" who the fuck cares? if the music is bad then is bad and nothing else matters.

Her statement is true. A bunch of autists on this site fall under that category. No way a bunch pasty nerds who's only challenge in life was picking with college to attend is going to comprehend the struggle of street life. You will never get what hip hop is about.

Is it a contest or something? Does acknowledging bigotry against a group lessen your own self worth or something?

this
idiot takes himself way too seriously and lets his reddit dark progger fanbase inflate his ego every chance he gets

That's what happens when you educate people enough to write, but not enough to actually think. Thousands of years of human thought on how criticism and opinions work go into the drain because muh feelings get hurt.

this

This is so fucking dumb, you do not need to “live the music” to understand or enjoy it, if that’s the case then all hip hop listeners are drug addicted coke dealers with tons of money, women and jewelry and insight on socioeconomic issues

>denies humans basic empathy
Wew, laddy.

stupid fucking argument on all sides. as if art isn't universal and hasn't always been a vehicle to know and understand experiences beyond your own. as if empathy isn't one of the defining human traits

the fucking sjw left needs to stop tripping over themselves to see who can be crowned "wokest;" they are actually getting dumber than their retarded alt-right counterparts by the second

>Her statement is true
What part is true, exactly? It's not that sort of statement, retard. This is why we cant have non-whites trying to play at critiquing music, which is the white man's game. Stick to making diss tracks or something.

>art shouldn't be judged by everyone
what a brainlet opinion

based as fuck. only black people should allowed to comment on hip-hop, unless it's the commercialised kind to appeal to whites.

It's what black people do. Just look at the way they personally will claim ownership of a thing they had absolutely no involvement in (or possibly all blacks), like dread locks, hoop earrings, and of course, music.

>any kind of hip-hop
>not commercialized

>as if art isn't universal and hasn't always been a vehicle to know and understand experiences beyond your own. as if empathy isn't one of the defining human traits
This.

You're a fucking moron and prove what I just said if you think that's the initial message of hip hop. Hip hop is about perseverance and defying all odds and being your own man in this world by any means. You don't get that message you fucking cracker.

>niggers talking fast and spouting vapid nonsense
>art
what a brainlet opinion

>the most basic of all art messages
>crakas dun get it
You're not special, Tyrone.

Your not as smart as you think you are.

>as if empathy isn't one of the defining human traits
it's not, it's a white trait.

>hip-hop message is to persevere and be your own man
>niggers still killing each other and surviving on gibs
Literally too smart for its own audience.

Sure, but you can still critique how the music and the vocalist sounds, and anyone can recognize shit lyrics, even if they don’t relate to them directly.
She’s so fucking butthurt.
Also
>what is empathy?

as an actual leftist, ill say ur right to a certain point. the endless wokest and definitive take posturing is reaching unbearable heights these days. discourse (and to a certain extent movement work) is dead stuck bc of this shit and idpol, only see it getting worse

>alt-right counterparts
>counterparts
ironically, they are both essentially working to the same end result: racial/cultural segregation where associating with people outside of their specific social identity is discouraged and considered worthless. only the means and logic behind that goal is different

This. They're desperate to shield their nonsense from actual criticism instead of the usual sycophantic obsession with mediocrity.

lel

>as if art isn't universal and hasn't always been a vehicle to know and understand experiences beyond your own. as if empathy isn't one of the defining human traits
really good point. would add that a large part of rap started as a way to have a voice so they could get their perspective to those who had no idea about what was going on in their community
sad that racist people like this still exist who cant possibly understand why a white person would want to engage with a black persons art. not to mention that poor white people and poor people of any other race in america have a lot of the same problems theyre facing

fuck niggers and fantano

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>prove what I just said if you think that's the initial message of hip hop.
That’s not what I think the message I know that’s what’s contained in rap lyrics, the point was that you didn’t have to live out the lives of these rappers to understand or even enjoy their music. If this was the case hip hop wouldn’t and shouldn’t be a worldwide phenomena right now

good point about the lack of solidarity btwn the poor, def what i was referring to w movement work

Say it to her or at least say her name you fucking pussy. If you know you're in the right and if you're just gonna put that 2nd paragraph out there then might as well go all the way faggot.

All that touchy-feely faggot nonsense aside. Music is a universal language and there is no such thing as a cultural barrier to enjoying or disliking it, maybe a lyrical one, but that's obviously different.

K then don't watch his videos just like everybody else you brown bitch.

>pasty
will you seriously fuck off with the white shaming. I understand it's hip right now but it's so fucking tacky.

my friend (white) loves fantano and i’ve heard him say shit like “dude fantano gave that album a 6!!” when talking about hiphop albums. meanwhile, neither of them understand half the lingo, constantly search urbandictionary & try to act like they are some godsend curators of our culture? talking down on great hiphop albums because they don’t get the message...... who GIVES A FUCK what that fat white motherfucker thinks about hiphop? These are the same people who call popular rap music “trap music”. Sick of this shit. They would be mad if niggas started reviewing rock albums & shitting on a culture that we never understood, but just saw on TV.

oh wait, we wouldn’t... because rock is fucking dead... just like every other bit of culture that white people TRY to claim as their own. black people also invented rock & roll. I don’t want them taking hold of rap and sending it into the fucking trash bin as well.
>t. angry black man

Most of this

fantano is so good at triggering people. i love the guy for it

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>talking down on great hiphop albums because they don’t get the message
lol that cope. Maybe it's just subpar? No, we know it is, that's why you focus of the message instead of the vehicle for it.

And the message itself isnt anything fantastic or original, and it's rarely even genuine. Hard to imagine the kind of person who listens to this crap for the message.

You’re fucking retarded
>t. Another black person

larp somewhere else faggot

lol imagine having to refer to a strawman fantasy review of hendrix because someone had an opinion

Seething 14-y.o. nigger. How about you find better friends and understand what criticism is?
>hurr durr he think he curator of our culture
>hurr durr he dun get it
You
Are
Not
Special.
Having a lingo doesn't make you special. It doesn't make your culture safe from criticism. If you don't want to get critiqued, get into the tard zone and never show your face in the real world again.

I think you guys are missing the point. I don't think she's saying whites and others not from a poor, urban background shouldn't engage with music like this, only that they shouldn't attempt to "review" it, try to objectively explain and evaluate an album's meaning from a position of authority

regardless, i couldn't get through two tracks of her first album because it was terrible so not going to listen this lol

He’s doing the right thing tho by not directing any blind hate of his most faithful followers towards the negress

Whites can say whatever they want about your dumb rap music lol

>only that they shouldn't attempt to "review" it, try to objectively explain and evaluate an album's meaning from a position of authority
Why? Because it cant be handled without the usual "I'm afraid of black people" kid's gloves without melting like a snowflake?

just some points
>yes some music is objectively trash
>fantano is a pussy and handles criticism terribly

This. Twitter moderation would consider that a hate crime.

>objectively
user. How fucking many times do we need to go over this?
>position of authority
He's a music reviewer. There are thousands of them. People listen to him because some of his opinions are okay. He's not in any position of actual authority over performers or listeners. And denying a man his opinions on an art piece because of skin color is like spitting right into the face of Kant, the father of modern thought. Would you do that?

>yes some music is objectively trash
How can you tell?

Why are niggers so fucking racist

good point

thats right, fantano giving harverd dropout is def. prejudiced and bigoted

Voice of god roars 'WHAT IS THIS HELLISH SHIT' every time I play a bad album. That's about as objective as you can get, right?

>you arent meant to understand these stories

you just know when you hear it

are you programmed to end every question with 'or something' or something?

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Fantano wasting a review on this pedestrian shit is a fucking travesty. There are actually decent records coming out, but melon prefers talking about lil shit again.

because they can, and it's encouraged by other blacks and white leftists

I dunno. Modern Internet made them go completely apeshit.

Jewish instigation

See
That’s like saying that I have to be in the music industry to critique the content and lyricism of Wish You Were Here

Ironic

He talked about the new xiu xiu record at least

Have you ever heard the tragedy of Dart Nigger the Black?

That's not irony. You can acknowledge others as being racist while still being racist yourself, dumb nigger.

ALL YALL CRAKKA AZZ PUSSY MUHFUCKIN WHYTE PPL IS BITCHEZ. NIGGAS WAS DA FIRST PEEPLE ON DA EARTH AND YALL JUST MAD A NIGGA GOT A BIGGA DICK AND WHITE WOMEN LOVE DA BBC YOU FAGGOTS..... LES GET ONE THING STRATE.. YALL DONT KNKW SHIT ABOUT OUR CULTURE AND FRFR YALL NEEDA BACK TF UO OFF IT BEFORE NIGGAZ START DROPPING YALL MUHFUCKAS BECAUSE WE WAS KJNGS BEDORE ALL THIS USA SHIT. ANTHONY FANTO DONT KNOW SHIT ABOHT MY PEOPLE. ILL KILL YOU NIGGA U TRYNA ACT LIKE HE DO. FUCK ALL YALL BIRD SHIT SKINNED AZZ TINY DICKED BITCH MADE TRICK ASS FAGGOTS. LET ONE MORE O YALL SAY SOME SHIT WITHOUT RESPECT ON IUR ART AND I SWEAR TO GOT ILL BACKTRACE YOUR IP AND FUCK YOU UP ON FOENEM GRAVE. YALL SOME BITCHES AND YA ONLY SAYIN SHYT CAUSE YA BEHIND DAT KEYBOARD. ALL YALL SOME SKINNY NECK ANIME PIMPLE ASS FAGGYTS IN REAL LIFE, YALL WOULDNT SAY SHIT IF YOU PULLED UP ON MY BLOCK. SWEAR TO GOD YALL Yea Forums KIDS NEEDA CALM TF DOWN IM SICK OF THIS SHIT!!!! AND LEAVE ME TF ALONE BECUZ IM DONT TALKIN ABOUT THIS SHIT..... FUCK MAN, GOT A NIGGA ALL RILLED UP...

At this point the only way Western society can possibly redeem itself is take anyone whose social media presence is >20% political or racial sperging and throwing them all into a giant oubliette, never to be heard from again.

Truly, this postmodern world is a blessing to us all.

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As an actual black person, you’re the worst type of poster

fockin orange

There is objectively no reason to separate music genres by race. Stop.

I grew up on rock music. I still listening to stuff in that genre mainly. There are no hip-hop albums on my top 10 favorite albums of all time lists. But it's no less a great genre of music.

didn't azealia banks get assblasted over a review too and then delete her tweet? why can't these people stand by their word

look at that fuckin 'ead the cunt

based

Music is about sound and immersion.

If you listen to only certain genres of music for "cultural reasons", then that makes you close-minded. And if you listen to music close-mindedly, that makes you artistically illiterate. Which makes you a plebeian.

Plebeians are not allowed on Yea Forums, user.

this is how you engage with the melon.
you tell him straight to his face.

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Americans were a fucking mistake

BUT I AM BLACK U FAGGOT

I like Yea Forums handwring over wether they hate Fantano or black people more

absolutely. straight and to the point, with an iconic insult as well.

BASED

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none of her fucking business how a man likes his chip

suuuuuure you are

Sometimes or something

when you create art, your art is open to criticism from anyone who has an opinion on it, end of story.

oh man if only there were a faggot in this issue we would have the holy trinity of Yea Forums

skin color has nothing to do with music

>implying it's a contest
Hmm, do I side with the guy attacked for having a opinion, or the side that say's you're not allowed to critique their mundane crap because their skin color makes them too unfathomable? Gee I just dont know

lil monkey fella

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Kehlani is fucking garbage though.

wow, user you better not be white

As an actual black "person" you should kys

true desu suburban white hip hop nerds make me cringe

She's a soldier for putting up with the Internet's bullshit.

heh heh

>She still can't use correct grammar as a grown woman

>I'm not letting somebody "telling" me

>Should be "tell"

>Still can't speak english correctly as a motherfucking adult

>Expects her opinions to be taken seriously when she can't even speak the language fucking properly

>Dumb fucking bitch

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What a proud black woman. I’m in tears at the COURAGE and BRAVERY she’s displaying!

Who are you quoting?

It's racist to remind blacks that their culture is really just ignorance personified.

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Based

Thas how we evolutioning the white man's tongue cracka

That's why I don't listen to rap. I have nothing in common with these people and their lives and experiences do not resonate with me on an emotional level at all. If you said this about the artist, rather than the critic, however, you'd be labeled a racist.

hopefully everyone from black people. I'm Chicano but like white people

Dance Gavin dance is unironically worse than chief keef lmao

Whoa, dude, I'm on your side, but Kant is not the guy you want to invoke in an argument for your ability to clearly review art and culture

This is basically the result of black self-segregation. They cannot handle criticism AT ALL, and are so culturally ignorant (of everyone else) that they think they're God's gift to mankind for aping each other's stupid little fads.

>when my race finally becomes an advantage
Yeah kehlanis fucking garbage

Fantanos already involved

Not him, but yes he is. Kant was right about everything. The only thing he misunderstood was just how indebted he was to Aristotle.

As a "white" person you are full of cringe

Based and samepilled

Shes a girl too; they just look pretty, cook and raise babies. Men are the only ones outside working and having the fun.

Ah, she also says "projects". Stupid cunt

Bro, you just solved America

Same here

Too bad no one could stop us from existing, stay seething

>Hip hop is about perseverance and defying all odds and being your own man in this world by any means.

youtube.com/watch?v=WzTTCtFAmkA

I don't understand this argument. If she truly believed this she wouldn't let whites even listen to her music.

If you make art, prepare to be critiqued.

remember she is butthurt cuz fantano gave lil pump a 4

he kinda has to tho

lol if the music sucks then it sucks bitch stfu.

She is one of the most hideous industry plants out there. She's not even black so I don't know what she's on a about. Not that fartano isn't a massive faggot as well, anyone who thinks rap can be good is.

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Is she really talking about fantano though? he's not middle aged

‘Cough’
Ahem
FUCK NIGGERS

>a snake
That's what Jesus said about the jews.
Is Fantano actually throwing low-key redpills now?

Wh*toids age like shit so it's understandable that she'd be mistaken.

this forever and ever

ur just the equivalent of her on the opposite side now.

This. Stay in your lane, wh*toids.

manc twat

shut up nerd

PREACH DEM WYPEPO MY BLACK BRODA

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>not knowing the difference between who's and whose

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lol, no one does

Note however that it can be easy to condemn something because it's not similair to your own expirience, or you're ignorant in the matter. Whilst I agree that this "I'm woker" tendence exists and is shit, there is also a tendency in ignorant people to be judjmental for no reason. When jazz/swing was born classical musicians condemned it as "superficial" and as guilty of ruining the youth, but now jazz is highly regarded by most
So I agree with you and that posts are shit and the album is probably shit (I don't even know what album we're talking about). But I agree in prospective

I think he'll survive this attempt at a burn.

Is this actually about Fantano? what did he say about her that got her this pissed off?

he gave lil pump a 4
that's the only thing that happened

that's fantano's reply you retard

She's right! I'm not gonna let some black person say I can't say the N word because it's their word so I'm not allowed to say it, but I guess because we made the word "Nigger" I'm fine to say it because white people made that word not blacks.

I don't use twitter or watch Fantano, I don't know the timeline of any of the tweets. I was just trying to figure out if these were even related at all

>That's what Jesus said about the jews.
He was a jew though

Who is she? I don't listen to pop/r and b but I still recognize names. Is she popular enough to hit back at any critic over a review?

isn't that racist?

would she be that upset about a lil pump review? I thought he was hispanic anyway

And?

He was a self loathing Jew

was this the origin of the melon meme?

yes. kind of.

Yes

Fantano is too much of a pussy to call her what we are all thinking

Technically yes, but no one is going to seriously call her out on it since a lot of people believe you can't be racist against whites.

but white isn't a race

I don't know enough about anthropology or whatever to refute these types of arguments with any sort od conviction. If you're prejudiced against anyone because of the colour of their skin then you're a piece of shit.

Scarrufi btfo

I hate Donald Trump because he has orange skin.

Oompa loompas are people too you jerk. Even the tall ones.

no it's not.
it's about being proud of selling crack and heroin, shooting people that live two blocks away from you because they wear different color clothing than you, and treating women like shit (this one is pretty based).

this is all your culture is, ever has been or ever will be.

>as an actual leftist
4channel is 18+

Anyone who says the word leftist should be banned from this site

Based.

people reviewing music as a career shouldn't be a thing at all. who gives a fuck what some random faggot thinks about an album?
listen to the music and judge for yourself. if you can't do that, then maybe to watch some cartoons.

can a non-white please help me understand the emotional depth and complex experiences behind these Kehlani lyrics?

thanks

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This might just be the worst thread I have ever entered.

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It's just "yes" not a technicality. Critical race theory is marxist us v them drivel

no more than black is

They have riches now after having a hard childhood. It means a lot to them is my interpretation.

It is a technicality. The world isn't black and white.

Then you're retarded. That song is obviously about getting head in your coupe as you drive around with a loaded gun looking for trouble, which is typical nigger behavior btw.

>It is a technicality. The world isn't black and white.
it's not a technicality. There is no magic formula that makes textbook racism less so because of power dynamics.

Good luck convincing retards of that

this but unironically
although technically we both said it lol

american race war is taking too long lads

The blacks and hispanics will unite to annihilate the whites

lol, spics hate niggers more than anyone, maybe other than the chinks and arabs who are busy still enslaving/colonizing them.

Yeah but they hate whites more and will form an alliance

lol the spanish arent retards

I am technically a spic, and I still support the whities.

I just assumed everyone hated white people maybe I was wrong

>you can't say my art is bad because it is about "important" things

Is there anything worse than a uppity nigger? If anything fantano has been pandering to these people for far too long.

>critic can't be critiqued
sad!

>t. white larper

Why can't racists think critically?

those that refer to critical race theory as justification for their racism are just plain deluded. They think swallowing postmodern claptrap whole is critical thinking.

okay, well: bye bye!!! bye!!!! later!!!!!!! gotta leave now LOL!

shut up you

alright fine, I get the hint lol
I'm leaving too lol

too much dip on your fuckin chip

They're tribal creatures. They have an us vs them mentality

Thats the real irony. Everyone manages to get along eventually, except for blacks. What's their deal?

cringe

user, Kant's final point was literally "it's impolite and difficult to debate our tastes, but to further our understanding of one another as human beings we need to debate our tastes constantly". He was all about people having different opinions. He wanted dialogue and growth above everything else.

>Hip hop is about perseverance and defying all odds and being your own man in this world by any means.

That's what it used to be, back in the 80s and 90s. That era of Hip Hop, however, is almost an entirely different genre to the trash people listen to nowadays.

>Hip hop is about perseverance and defying all odds and being your own man in this world by any means.
That's a weird way to say "inability to fit into a modern society intended for modern people"

Maybe it's just blacks that grow up in black neighborhoods? There was a few black families in my town but they got along just fine with everyone else.

Segregation still exists today (look at Baltimore and Chicago). Maybe we need to do some more desegregation.

>be yourself bro
Great message. However I liked it better when that message was still fresh, you know, 500 years ago.

So apparently the lyrics can only be understood as the black experience as such and don't relate to any other more general all-encompassing subjects, or can their approach to these subjects only be understood through this black experience? What makes the black experience so distinct?

>What makes the black experience so distinct?
Cluster B personality disorders and a general psychosis