KPOP GENERAL

>The 33rd Japan Gold Disc Awards
>Best Asian Artist
BTS

>Rookie of the Year
Seventeen

>Best 3 New Artists
GFriend
Seventeen
Momoland

>Album of the year
BTS - Face yourself

>Best 3 Albums of the year
TWICE (BDZ)
BTS (Face Yourself)
BTS (Love Yourself Answer)

>Song of the Year (digital)
TWICE (Candy Pop)

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brb tho gotta walk the dog

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Nice legs

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OOF that ass

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why is she so glossy

jisun is the best fromis btw

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media industry fuckups are only good when it's to spite the fanbase that hurt my feelings :(

kyoooooooot!!!

>Candy Pop winning SOTY over U.S.A, Synchronicity, Ambivalent, Lemon or Marigold
wtf

word

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twitter.com/bu_buck_/status/1096356563722264576
here is the statement directly from the vendor relaying information from kakao M
I assume you can speak korean since you know everything about the kpop industry

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damn his profile is perfect

are you people really surprised a loona poster who frequents twitter doesn't know jack shit about distribution?

>new
>gfriend
what?

you're the only one with no evidence of your claims

>soty
>candypop
taste this patrician is rare

Memoria released in 2018
same with Seventeen's Call!Call!Call! and MOMOLAND's Bboom Bboom (Japanese ver.)

Plenty of reason for an album delay.
They fucked up and sent Kakao M the designs late. They fucked up and said 1000 instead of 10000. Saying the distributor determines the amount of album printed is fucking moronic because the cost of printing the album falls onto BBC. What is stopping Kakao M from going the opposite direction and saying they expected high volume of sales and printed 100k copies? BBC eats the cost? Of course. Because that is not how businesses work.

>no, when you contract a distributor to release and sell your product the distributor is responsible for meeting demands of consumers.
No you fucking moron. That is not how distributors work. You are supposed to specific how much you want to print and not let the distributors decide how much THEY want to print.

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see

i for one am not

oh ok that makes a little more sense but still sounds weird

how many years of combined experience does kpg have in distribution?

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i'm not surprised i'm just laughing at every damage control post he makes

yooooooonaaaaaaaaaaa

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The simplest way I can put it is that being established in Korea is totally irrelevant, when you make your first Japanese single it's considered a debut

literally 0

Nowhere does it say that Kakao M deliberately printed less copies.

i cant believe someone used that dubu meme crop as an album cover

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i've always hated this place

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>Mixnine starts
>YG tanks
lmao

can you actually read korean or did you google translate the caption?
i'm guessing you didn't read the pics at all

8 hours to go

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castlechel_0824...

10 (You)s and i post the rest of this rare lewd image

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post her ass

who said anything about deliberate? they made an underestimation due to gross incompetency

>kakao: how many albums you want printed senpai?
>bbc: lol dude you be the judge

Do not lewd Cub

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freaking cute

can't even preorder most versions of it anymore and other places have their releases in march so either it was massively underprinted or something else. not sure why they would do that intentionally as it only upsets the vendors and customers.

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kek

ok

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All the statement said was they printed less copies than expected. The reason was never given.

post Jisun's ass

>Saying the distributor determines the amount of album printed is fucking moronic because the cost of printing the album falls onto BBC. What is stopping Kakao M from going the opposite direction and saying they expected high volume of sales and printed 100k copies? BBC eats the cost? Of course. Because that is not how businesses work.
not sure how it works but i think a distributor takes a cut of the sales profit (something like 25%) instead of charging for the pressing outright:

> The distributor takes a cut of income from each unit so The distributor takes a cut of income from each unit sold and then pays the label the remaining balance.

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DUDE JUST PRINT ALBUMS
How many?
PRINT ALBUMS LMAO

yeah that must explain why kakao deliberately stopped all production of the limited versions of the albums as soon as word got out about their fuckup

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yea because they're the distributor

this is the best twice meme i've seen in years

DUDE JUST PRINT THE ALBUMS
IT IS SO EASY
PRINT ALBUMS
HOW MANY? WHO CARES

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How do I automatically get rid of _orig on images using that twitter addon

screwed that quote up somehow
>Traditionally, distribution companies sign deals with record labels which give them the right to sell that label's products. The distributor takes a cut of income from each unit sold and then pays the label the remaining balance

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literally read the pictures included, it literally states the distributor predicted far less sales than what was preordered
distributors are the ones in charge of making those predictions, the fact that a group sold 50k in their previous comeback and a major distributor like kakao m doesn't use that as the baseline for preorders is ridiculous

>has to strawman to pretend he has an argument

distributors are sales projectors too, who knew

twitter.com/caskerbox/status/1100041140257148929?s=21

if it's like games it's not actually up to the publisher. they can give a ballaprk estimate but the final decision is on the distributor so if they make too many copies and they don't sell like they expected them too vendors start trying to offload copies because they're only taking up space since no one wants them.

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in options?

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butt girl...

nice teef

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the distributor rather than bbc is the party that deals with stores and sells the album to them so they migth actually be the ones who judge the size of the pressing
still weird they'd get it so wrong though

change.org/p/kakao-m-justice-for-loona sign the petition! #justiceforloona

imagine smoking weed with your favorite group

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Nobody is going to read it anyway so I'm going to unleash my thought.

I'm so fucking tired of Bighit treating BTS like dirt when they have so much potential. With proper vocal training and more artistic freedom they would be unironically great. But Bighit focuses only on making cash, they're going to overwork them until military enlistment and then drop them for TXT. And I honestly don't understand why they renewed their contracts, it's a big mystery why would they do that with almost disbanding last year.

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>the fact that a group sold 50k in their previous comeback and a major distributor like kakao m doesn't use that as the baseline for preorders is ridiculous
that's exactly how you know it's a complete bullshit statement on blockberry's end

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it's ok

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bbc hasn't made a statement, it's all coming from vendors relaying information they get from the distributor

I'm using the google one shit's in another language

doesn't the statement come from kakao themselves though, i dont' think blockberry has commented

i'm defending a mega-corporation for free because the korean pop group that is hurt by this has fans that hurt my feelings

FUUUUUCK

nice japanese midget

where did bbc make a statement?

huh? This one has worked well for me

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they aren't being treated badly at all though

naky you fucking whore

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if it didn't come from kakao it shouldn't be trusted

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who do you think the distributor is?

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post yuna's ass

>kpg teleports 10 years into the past

omo iu
omo jiyoung

does anyone know how short she actually is? I have a feeling she's nako tier

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yeah i'm sure BBC loves the fact that any possible fansigns are delayed by 4 weeks at minimum which will be 3/4 of the way through the promotion cycle of the album

is that bangchan

BTS has been on a long ass break since end of last year. I am not sure what you are complaining about. Twice has been doing more stuff than BTS at the moment.

based
Blow Your Mind had me really hyped for this

IU is still very much OMO

That would be /ourchad/, yes

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wtf is that him?

i heard that the limited edition loona albums came with a bottle of a random loona's juice but they pumped them dry and that's why they can't make any more

are you using the google chrome version of this? it should be the same thing

addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/twitter-gensun-view/

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i'm back

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stop calling me a pedo!

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my favorite whores

ok

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good thing mine are already ordered

lol bro she looks 30 years old

Yeah, he's been hitting the gym lately. Wonho shaking in fear.

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why were they so based?

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nice

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Welcome back jeongbro

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they are not based
especially how that one guy killed Crayon Pop with his wiener

you'll be lucky if you get it, they're prioritizing domestic orders before international ones

haHA. you got pranked. it was not what you thought.

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kek

you don't even know the definition of pedo. she just turned 15!

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there are also many people that flew to korea for the concert and stayed extra days for fansigns that they don't even get to attend now

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blow your mind was a little sleeper bop, that team knows how to make jams

also basedeon's flow is only getting better and better

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I can see that
youtube.com/watch?v=aNCEw4C-XsI

Jisoo is Wony's height but she doesn't tower over Yeseo

i saw a fox

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what did you do?

funny how the distribution experts have nothing to say anymore

>loona flops in charts
>j-just wait for the album to drop!
>loona limited albums get discontinued
>i-its just shitty management!
i wonder what loonybin's next excuse is

dropped

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i walked the dog

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distribute THIS

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Shouldn't vendors relay the amount of pre-orders they get to the distributors so they can receive the shipment on Day 1 to fulfil the pre-orders?
That alone should be enough for Kakao M to print way more than they did. Something is fishy here

didnt they say enough? anyone who thinks it unironically works like this
is straight retarded

why is haseul so busted

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here he is now

ummmmmm
gladly

post her feet

god dammit

poor mans yeoj

...

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but it does work like that, the distributors are the ones who project the sales and make the contracts with vendors

is she the official loona goblin?

imagine yuna doing this

What more is there to say? You honestly think "DUDE just print albums" is how the industry works.

she looks like a horror movie

what was the Jimin video about?

I've just seen the "we love you jimin" hashtag and it all sounds sad but the video posted was a year old?

thank you

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That water look cold as fuck

lmao

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how can I get more of this qt?
youtube.com/watch?v=67jSYCSrnE4

provide proof

little benchey is all grown up :,)

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They still have Vivi

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redpill me the jimin shit bangtanbro why was he trending?

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>Sunmi announces release of new song "누아르 (Noir)" for March 4th
>Sunmi took part in writing lyrics for 누아르 (Noir) and co-composed the song with EL CAPITXN
>el capitxn aka j.pearl who co-produced ddaeng and some tracks from mono, a former idol named yijeong from boygroup history

There is 0 chance, absolutely fucking 0 chance that BBC didn't tell them how much to print or give them a ballpark. No one who is sane thinks that BBC just handed them the album and said "Lol, just print whatever man".

it's not just water...

ALL THE PS FUCKED UP MY PRECIOUS BIRD FUCKING FUCK BBC AND FUCK KOREAN STANDARDS GOD FUCKING DAMNIT BROS FUCK

>has no more arguments about distribution
>resorts to spamming "lmao uglo xD" instead
great music discussion

cute girl coming through

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those jackets uggo as fuck

you could watch mix9

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so explain how they clearly printed way below 50k?

Pocari sweat?

What have they done to her perfect teeth?
Monsters.

haseulie...

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for me, it's hime

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kakao would have had to make a conscious decision to do so

waiting on the proof of distributors being sales projectors

um actually *adjusts glasses*
that is a sexy bitch

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>mix9
I'm still mad about it.

>twitter.com/balloon_wanted/status/1100208284558974977
>It is being shared G-Dragon is still at rank of private first class and has yet to be promoted while in military service due spending too much time away (vacation or at the hospital). GD is also unable to be promoted to corporal because he also does not have enough work hours

bigbang is finito. rip.

Someone clearly fucked up. But blaming the distributor is retarded especially without proof. You would think a military arms dealer would know how to deal with distributors.

youtube.com/watch?v=4wiUnjGnt5E

bend the knee

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writing my first song about kpop. i call it cub lasting.

i have over thirty years of projection experience and i can say with certainty that you are all a bunch of wankers

is he still being released this year

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winwin...

Me on the right

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when he looks at me
and i look at him

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I didn't even read those salesshitting posts
t. bib.jpg

nice hair

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they probably fucked up the production or there was a communication issue between bbc and them. the only point being argued is against the idea that bbc just told them to yeet out albums and called it a day

heechul...

apologize to that girl

No you see, the distributor needs to know the projection of every group they get orders from. It's not up to the group's parent company to handle that, clearly the distributor needs to have deep understanding of every single artist in the world.

loonafags are legit braindead.

Big Bang has been finito for the millionth time. It doesn't matter. They will come back and drop another hit like If You and Korea will love them again. They are the Bad Boys of Kpop minus Taeyeon.

We got GDruggie
We got Weed man
We got vehicular manslaughter
We got Rape Den Boss

me on the right

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Guess Teddy is too busy with Somi

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why is ksoo the only one without a scratch on his face

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what happened?

kek

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he doesnt want makeup shit on his face

yet the only statements released so far have been by kakao acknowledging their own mistakes

I'm a merchant banker who owns 18 vacation homes in the Turks and Caicos, and I must say kpop really is shit

with teddy producing somi's tracks it's gonna be hard not to be a banger. i don't really like his sound but all his songs are hits and that's a fact

me on the right

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>doesnt have to listen another version gashitna
based

me as rape den boss

>we need tanks
>how many?
>idk lol just make some

what happened to that one poster?

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Somi is getting Gashina 4.0

on her way to a show loss

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he barely even worked on warning though

>So how many albums do we print?
>Dude, you are the distributor, just print them lmao
>Okay. We need an estimate and you are the group's company so you have the best idea
>Dude, just print the albums
>So any number?
>Dude
>Print
>The
>Albums

This is how Loonafags think the contract negotiations went. Kakao M is supposed to do research on a group and didn't bother asking their parent company who knows the best.

me on top

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kakao_M#[X_X]_production/distribution_issue
lmao

well idc for her

ur smol...

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what expressive eyebrows you have

They posted his vlog from April 2018 where he talks how sad he was during that time.

They strangely posted it when the Armypedia thing was the main topic. The questions look like it was made by anti, most of them bring back the bad memories.

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>more strawman

can you not post photoshopped images like this

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has egg ever had eye makeup before? i've never seen him with it

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Source? I don't see anywhere where kakao pretends everything is their own fault.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kakao_M#[X_X]_production/distribution_issue
> The release date of the physical album was moved back yet again to March 6th, citing "manufacturing issues." Currently, there have been no explanations or reasons for the delays. Fans are demanding answers as to why such a big music distributor has failed to properly distribute [X X].
>Blockberry Creative, the small record label that manages LOOΠΔ, has not yet released a statement on this matter.

Seolhyun is a goddess

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what is kakao's statement exactly? did they say they didn't print enough because they didn't think there would be enough demand?

because if not then you have no argument for them being in charge of sales projection

Are they? Cause I don't think so. BTS has signed contracts with multiple brands, and their commercials drop randomly, they're recording all the time, but the stiff is released a long time after the recording.

wony with a hammer

it's literally the distributor's job to take orders from retailers and to ship the product accordingly

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yes but only just a little eyeshadow and sometimes eyeliner

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> 22:47, 25 February 2019 Stanloonastreambutterfly (34,297 bytes) +1,542 . . (I wanted to bring this recent matter to attention.)

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the korean statement linked at the start of the thread says exactly that

my question is how does he manage that when they have jeans on

anyone got a good website for pretty dahyuns pictures?

Did some 16yo girl write this

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>loonytards making shit up to defend their nugu group
surprise!

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spoiler that shit

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chen?

No one does their job in isolation.
Distributors don't fucking roll a dice and then use the number to determine how many albums to print. They are the middle men so they will ask the back end or the front end for estimations.

literally yes

Haseul...

my dad is nintendo and he says it is not a distributors job to do their job

that is not a statement from kakao, that is a picture claiming to be feedback from a vendor

chen!!

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You guys talk about the dumbest shit

oh no arinbros we got too cocky!

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chenbeautiful

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based kakao helping kill loona

god those arms

>this statement relaying information from kakao m doesn't fit my narrative
it's ok to hate loona

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do you guys really think loona have a chance winning against mx?

>mx sold more albums(even without this whole distrbution error)
>stay on the charts longer
>have more youtube views
>have more fans to do live voting

>the only thing loona win is pre show voting with slight margin

imagine attending jewrin's batmitzvah...omo

that's a big head

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i tell them to read books but they never listen

This is definitely someone shitposting here right?

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Half the posters are retarded

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it's not even posted from the vendor's account, let alone the distributor's account
how stupid do you have to be to 100% take the word of a twitter picture

old and busted

nobody ever said loona would win, just that their highest potential chance was this week
believe it or not, 12 year old girls on twitter are not rational people no matter what fanbase they belong to

ive noticed this as well

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skinnyripped chen was perfect

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unironically the workings of this distributor/label thing seems like a good question for kpopalypse since i think he said he runs some indie label

>SBS The Show score projection (190226)
>Digitals: MX 4000 LN 1020
>Physicals: MX 1000 LN 0
>Music video: MX 2000 LN 1530
>Starpass prevote: MX 470 LN 500
>PARTIAL TOTAL: MX 7470 LN 3050
>The projected gap is of 4420 points. Even in the best case scenario where Loona gets max score on both the expert vote and the live vote, with MX getting zero points, that still leaves us 1920 points behind.

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chen has a good body

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isn't that guy a huge loonashill
i imagine he would write anything possible to defend their honor

Twitter stans are factually more insane than Yea Forums anons. Their victim complex drives them to insane deeds.

there's no question. bbc gives distributor a set amount of albums to make. distributor makes set amount of albums then sends it to respective vendors. the only issue is that clearly not enough were made.

ever since i started reading f*nf*ction it makes it more awkward when i see photos of them

me as the chair that lifted her skirt

loona is nugu as fuck. how were anyone supposed to know there'd be a higher than expected demand for albums?

this kinda bangs
youtube.com/watch?v=bcgK-JgO0p4

the m in kakao m is for misogynists

Like I don't mean to bring this into twitter shit discussion but the persecution complex is really fucking annoying and it didn't start with this comeback being mismanaged

Back during awards season people were so convinced that they were being fucked out of awards despite two other groups being miles ahead of them

you like that you fucking faggots?

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people also thought dreamcatcher would win and that wjsn would win a second show

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i would say twitter stans are stupider than the average kpg poster but the mental illness levels are about the same. let's not act like most people here aren't turbo fucked as well

yes but do not call me that

It's been a bit Yennie.

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Reminder there were orbits that unironically thought loona should have won ROTY.

>180908
fuck, it's been forever since they promoted and even that was for like 2 weeks

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Dreamcatcher would have won had it not for the massive SEA contingent streaming CLC's MV still

Nature managed to buy a ROTY award. You are telling me an arms dealer could buy Loona a ROTY award?

2 mushroom heads and a chad

clc just had the better song

he likes their music but he doesn't seem partisan about companies or groups
i don't really like when he/whoever shill his stuff here but this seems like a time when he'd have something to contribute

you bet i do now post more playboy outfits

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Soribada is a young awards show and can get away with giving out shitty awards to get groups to show up

my sincerest apologies, friend. have a chen happy trail to make it better

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will they ever have these kind of outfits again

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when i break into the sm costume department and accidentally destroy everything that isn't a sleeveless shirt or leather pants

find out next tour
if sm ever releases the fucking dates goddammit

Chen is Catholic

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make it another uggo thread

remember when he said nigger on vlive

That was the most insane thing I read reading back then
GIDLE had the better songs.
IZONE had the better sales.
But they were saying Loona should win because a bunch of twitter stans voted them to #1 on the awards page. That is their basis for winning ROTY. Not good songs. Not good sales. Literally winning an internet poll.

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