How do I improvise solos that aren't just directionless pentatonic or minor noodling

it's a combination of these

I don't always like this lady, but this video is spot-on

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Many guitar players are completely incapable of playing melodies or imitating what they hear. if you can hear what you play in your head before you play it, your solos will improve immensely

remember there are no mistakes if you repeat them to make seem like you did it on purpose and are actually using muh super advanced chromaticism

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i refuse to take advice from anyone of the inferior sex

Based

pentatonic noodling sounds directionless because you're just playing shit on a scale with no direction
play your notes with purpose, not just picking randomly from notes on a scale that fits
if you're playing against a backing, actually take time to listen to the chords and let them lead your playing, outline the chord changes
if you break down a solo, it's really just how the soloist chooses to get from point A to point B; you can actively tell they are trying to get somewhere with the notes they choose to play and you can feel a sense of tension and resolution of that tension

Check SRV's cover of Little Wing. That entire first "verse" solo from like 0:36 to 1:15 is almost entirely E pentatonic, but he outlines the chord changes so it doesn't sound at all like noodling
youtube.com/watch?v=An4uDegHB8s

Develop on the melody and theme of the song rather than try to wank all over the audience.

Listen to and watcn live videos Thelonious Monk, and Allan Holdsworth videos for a month, that may put you on the right track, since they are both improvisation gods.

Pretend you just stumbled upon the video while browsing Youtube then

The pentatonic scale for people starting out is used like a safe space where you can play anything and it won't hurt you. The problem with that is, people stay there and their solos sound like they aren't going anywhere, and that makes boring solos. There's another safe space that people forget about, which are the notes of the backing chords. This safe space is slightly better, because atleast the chord progression actually goes somewhere. If you get lost while doing improv, just think of the next chord coming up in the progression and try to land on it.
The chords give you a place to start and end, the pentatonic scale gives you an easy way to travel between the two. Eventually you'll get tired of using the pentatonic for everything, that's what'll give you the motivation to learn and practice more scales and theory.

Kinda nonsensical that you would come to a primarily male board to ask for advice, then.

yeah well thats because wait what did you mean by that

hello, reddit

oh fuck - when i tried to play happy birthday the 6th threw me off ;_; i'm a failure

hate yourself enough to learn jazz/composition/theory
listen to players who improvise and don't sound lost and figure out why (instrument is irrelevant)
or be complacent enough to be content with pent noodles for the rest of your life

drop acid and develop synesthesia

first step to improvement is acknowledging the problem. experienced players hear a tune like that and know where the tonic is. you'll get there :-)

Ok. I'm just going to try and learn a bunch of shit by ear -- that should help, right?

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By ear is helpful if you're listening to them by intervals, not by the notes themselves. I also visualize the shapes (a riff for example, or a section of a solo) that they use, and try to improvise with that.
Atleast this is how I do it.

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Focus on chord tones of the underlying chord progression. Use non-chord tones to help embellish your melodic lines. Use the pentatonic boxes as a springboard and learn where chords are within them.

Sounds good. Time to learn a bunch of anime jams :3

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try this also mate, it helps a lot.

people that can solo only

Watch Adam Neely videos, specifically his "how to not suck at music" series

*schizophrenia, my bad

Make up words to the notes you'e playing and pretend you're singing. That'll help tremendously with phrasing.

What I do is phase in and out of pentatonic and the scale, that sounds kinda fresh

Lovely track. I've definitely listened to that album before but I must have spaced out because the tracks sounded the same to me.

ALSO THIS, this is the magic fucking flavour packet shit right here.

absolutely. learn your modes. not every chord you play is going to be perfectly in your home key. by learning modes, you're going to unlock a lot of different notes that you can play and noodle around with. and you're not going to sound like a tired pentatonic fuckfest

this sounds like a really good way

Wow you really showed him! You better get back to that casserole though, it's just about done

you need to understand the fundamentals of melodic development. period structure, half cadences, full cadence. why does a cadence with the 3 in the melody sound less resolute than with 1?

learn more music

base them off chords

What the fuck are you on about?

These are the most practical advices you can use user. Learn jazz songs and try to solo using notes from chords currently being played by the rhythm section, if the chord changes than changes the solo notes according to the next chord and so on

nice

hating women is fucking gay

that has nothing to do with hating women. baka. go vote for hillary lil b.

Adam Neely is bad at playing and teaching music. The woman in is very correct, you aren't going to get anywhere if you can't manifest your idea in some way, as a disconnect between your musical mind and the real world is just unworkable.

>i refuse to take advice from
You just proved why males will never have ground to claim to be the better gender

trannies aren't girls

Study chord changes, hit specific notes.
E.g. blues can be random pentatonic notes, or you can look at the chord progression and use the chords intervals to highlight changes and create a flowing melody.

I-IV-V progression has nice flow when studying the individual chords invervals and how they relate to the root chord.

I - use b3 bends to major 3rd.
IV - 4-b5 notes work well here
V - b7 bends work great.
Finding which notes really define blues and applying them where they really fit will give your improv good structure.
Using tri tones as well is great, b3 and bending to 3 then hitting a b7 is a very bluesy sound
Same with 4 to b5 then the root note.

If you know the blues scale you would see why these tritones work well as opposed to others

Learn solfege

Buy this course

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btw Chic Corea once said we are only truly improvising 20% of the time. The rest of the time we're using pre-rehearsed licks.

Go to Berklee

done and done, what next?

Solos are always the worst part of a song anyways

lol

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Transcribe and play everything on the Incredible Jazz Guitar of Wes Montgomery.

I record chord progressions and solo over them, like 50 times until I get a good solo. I play only two or three solos on my band's album but they're all pretty decent

I bet if feels great to know there are much better female guitarists than you

Lol, there aren't really

I've only played bass and rhythm guitar, so I'm no expert, but I once heard it said that when constructing a solo, make it something you could *sing* instead of play. And if you sang the solo, would it go with the music? If the answer is yes, then it should work.

too bad none have ever proved that fact by making memorable music

You must prehear every note before you play it. Most guitar players rely on shapes and just run them up and down the fretboard.

Serious answer: sing every note as you play. Don't let your fingers lead your improv. Letting your voice lead it puts your brain in charge which improves your phrasing and makes everything sound better. But do this when you practice only. You'll look like an idiot if you do it when performing. You just want to ingrain this into your playing enough to have it be natural that you know what it's going to sound like before your fingers play it.

Cant argue with quads like that

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Based, why are there so many women in this thread?

There's only 12 fucking notes. It's not rocket science

Yeah, this. Your ability is based on your rhythym and control. The notes mean very little.

Terrible players cling to pitch like it means something. Ascend beyond that and you’ll have the best pitch. It’s a paradox.

Tasty licks man

Female guitarists are either leather suit caricatures from the 80s or indiegirls

>Terrible players cling to pitch like it means something

What the fuck even is this? Get the fuck out with your free jazz garbage

Oh, no, it’s true, you never look for sounds at the expense of rhythym and with good control anything you fill will sound good.

I’m a much better player than you if it helps. I don’t really play accidentals but you come to feel that a good enough player could play all accidentals or just one note and make it sound good.

Hi everybody!

I’m researching the various concepts out there since I’m kinda building my own lately, so my question is:
what else have you geeks (me being a proud one too) found using standard tuning? other than:
3nps
caged/traditional/Jimmy Bruno
Pentatonic (using bottom degrees a la Dana Rasch)
6 shapes (a la Chuck Loeb)
Pebber Brown’s 14 Shapes
Just Notes (a la Andreas Oberg, Bireli?)
Single Point reference a la Tom Quayle
Single string (better learn those notes)

Use the, there’s 12 notes on guitar, play songs by ear and color your own playing based off that, system.

I have a developed sense of pitch, but you come away thinking that anybody could. Honestly though there isn’t one way to do it. Other people may learn differently

>I’m a much better player than you
lmao

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play out of key more (and make it work)
youtube.com/watch?v=pPUq4H3hsC0&t=4s

Memorize this

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Oh i am, lol. There’s no way you have a better ear than me, or expression of that ear. Honestly I usually don’t pick 10 notes a second so if you’re a really good shred athlete I can’t fuck with that.

But in terms of I can key to your shit, easily, or play it off standard key and make it sound the same, you cannot key to my shit and probably musically illiterate, probably cannot play a simple pop vocal by ear unless I tabbed it out for you, yeah no shit I’m better than you.

No one here superimposes pentatonics :(

Try

Fuck off, Levi

>good intonation
How do you perform a solo with bad intentions?

Git gud. Thanks. You are your sound. World would be a much better place if this was understood

Learn to use your ear and train the link between your ability to audiate and your playing.
It's like speaking. We start by learning phonemes, then words, then sentences, etc. After a while you don't think about how to move your mouth to create certain words, you just think of an abstract idea and phrases conveying that idea come our your mouth automatically.
Music is much very much like that (in a sense it's the same thing actually). You learn by practice, but you need to practice the right things. Which means actively listening to what you play and making a conscious effort to play what you hear in your head.
Also theory helps a lot.

There are only a few notes and learning them takes forever.

i picture that chords and tempo are feelings and words then i try to tell a story with it

>I'm going to judge all men based on one statement by one man
typical small woman brain desu

>there are no mistakes if you repeat them to make seem like you did it on purpose
Lmao this x1000

>I’m a much better player than you if it helps. I don’t really play accidentals
lmfao bow down before the no-modulation emperor

stop thinking of melody for a while, just groove something simple
play chord tones
hum what you play
dont look at fretboard
play in the dark
smoke a little weed
commit to rhythm and groove, force yourself to make a memorable solo using only 3 notes
rinse repeat

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Join a metal band. You can do just that and still be considered great.

Or make a Zeppelin worship band like Greta Van Fleet. You'll also then be considered great.

nah bro...
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Learn modes. Then your playing becomes directionless Phrygian noodling.

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Mixolydian noodles are the best.

Splatoon guitar.
Splatoon guitar

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agreed, i dont like Neely, I'm not sure exaclty what it is about him, I just don't want to learn from him. maybe it's his-bro-do-you-even-trap-jazz style delivery

Watch people who are good explain things youtu.be/KrM66h2dTWY