Why doesn't Yea Forums ever talk about jazz anymore?

shut up r*tard

you can only talk about the greats so much user. nobody's recorded anything worth listening to in the genre in over 20 years

not really true man. listen to voyager by eric harland or any recent antonio sanchez album. you’re just willfully ignorant of the genre

other way around actually

Wow we can't have fun when we post. We gotta be big serious music men with serious discssion all the fucking time. Well fuck you idiots. Fuck your discussion. You don't tell me what to fucking do you piece of shit. I hope your family dies in an auto wreck.

mmmm - Rune Gramaphon have been putting out some good gear...

/pol/ has been doing its homework.

you need a cuddle, baby.

>some good gear
How much does it cost and what is it?

is bill evans trio pleb?

no ones saying you can’t have fun it’s just what’s the point of the board if all you’re gonna do is jerk off to the same indie pop and rap albums that people have been wanking over for like a literal decade on the board.

I've literally never seen or met anybody who loves jazz but doesn't respect and appreciate classical.

Whereas Yea Forums is now infested with edgy teen pseuds who pretend to love "Western Art Music" but discount all jazz as "nigger music"

checked truth digits. pleb underage who just want to shitpost about the beatles and fantano took over

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it's called Ultralyd. Fucking expensive.

>people are willing to attach their identities to this cesspool on social media

>only talk about the greats
But there are many greats who are not tourist-core, and who are rarely discussed. I discovered Wayne Shorter from a previous thread. I'm sure there are other people who like jazz and haven't heard of him. I'm also sure there are still other great jazz musicians I haven't heard of.

I put this together for a thread a while back but it 404'd before I could post. Hopefully the links are still all good.

Mike Gibbs - And on the Third Day (Brit. Big Band Slow Groove - amazing)
youtube.com/watch?v=oOF6ua09uR4
Full album: youtube.com/watch?v=sGgJjxFWeTM

Barre Phillips - Mountainscapes (THE essential ECM '1' series LP. Uncategorisable. basically Phillips/Surman/martin 'The Trio' plus a keyboard player whose names escapes me.)
youtube.com/watch?v=jYitzZCTmB8&list=PLaey_zM7o5IOOFwvBs1u5Mprbonj_rcGp

Roy Brooks - The Free Slave:
youtube.com/watch?v=2HnUNNiTn9k (speaks for itself)

Charles Kynard - Reelin with the Feelin:
youtube.com/watch?v=6LvUlimvYRk (particulary Boogalooin' @18:47)

Charles Rouse - Two is One (incl Hopscotch @ 7:18 - in my top 5 of all time)
youtube.com/watch?v=jUYc__M1Qc4

Jeremy Steig - Legwork (first Jazz album I ever bought. Includes the famous Beastie Boys sample)
youtube.com/watch?v=etOrYtQ3EGc&list=PLxdC3Htk7wSe6SIEsswjw2bEj9EZXljK3

Nucleus - We'll Talk About it Later (Jazz Rock at it's finest, esp. the opener)
youtube.com/watch?v=MC2QUELg59k

John Surman - Dance (From his Eponymous first. Brit Baritone sax giant)
youtube.com/watch?v=8URNKeaZjw8

Elton Dean's Ninesense - Seven for Lee (The Soft Machine Soprano player's ensemble. My fave jazz tune ever. Also - dat cover)
youtube.com/watch?v=xn7q32lVVuU

Elvin Jones - Somebody's Rockin my Jazzboat (from New Agenda - seldom gets a hearing)
youtube.com/watch?v=lQ_iBGmvyvM

George Russell - Electronic Sonata for Sould Loved by Nature (From his Norwegian collaborations. Astounding stuff)
youtube.com/watch?v=5lbFwrfrymw

Robin Kenyatta - Girl from Martinique (On ECM's '1' series, and his best album (his others were dodgy, 'Gypsy Man' notwithstanding. This has Fred braceful and Wolfgang Dauner all over it)
youtube.com/watch?v=xjehhmUFGG0

>caring this much about music
get a life

Wayne Shorter was in one of Miles Davis's quintets and founded Weather Report. If that's not tourist core then I don't know what is.

That said you're right. lots of great jazz out there when I go hear it live that's not ever recorded. think that's the last great bastion of it desu

but music is life, friend.

so many improv gigs I went to were never recorded. Most of the players didn;t think they should be either...

a lot of the greatest players I know feel the same way. a song should be different every time they play it, influenced by their mood (or how much they've been drinking)

would be a cool idea for an album, 10 versions of the same improv'd song over the course of like a year, changing band members, whatever new chord progression they've found that's cool, etc. it's probably already been done though

muso scum

kiss me.

i thought the thumbnail depicted a guy sucking some toes, what a random mistake haha

Wouldn’t be that weird

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/Classical/ here i'm liking modal jazz because of the modes obviously
Joe Henderson is my fav
Rec me more
>Inb4 miles davis or coltrane

can you elaborate on what you mean by 'modal'?

Herbie Hancock - Maiden Voyage

herbie hancock headhunters era

dunno - try some of

Theorylet

Will check it out

Any specifics? I'm only interest in the use of Modes in improvisation

I don;t know what you mean by modes - if you tell me I can maybe suggest something.

I just listened to sextant and it's fuckin kino

there's a few racists in every thread now that the /pol/ cancer is spreading, but yeah, most of them are cool

Have a go on Eddie Henderson's Capricorn records.

youtube.com/watch?v=k91za5jE9ms

I listened to it because it was recommend in a thread about On The Corner. I don't think it's as great as that record, but it's still very good.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mode_(music)

Basically it's like using different shades of a colour where the colour is the key and the shades are the tonality of the key.

Modal Jazz is all about exploring the different qualities of certain modes

This is why i keep coming back to mu thanks

your answer didn't really mean anything , so i looked at this and it helped:

youtube.com/watch?v=mb0EFwzXIEo

I just didn't know how much you knew about theory so i was just being really general

Ryo fukui album that gets hyper recommended on youtube for some reason

What are you talking about? There's at least one Jazz thread every day, and has been consistently forever.

Absolute nonsense. This has been the best decade for Jazz since the 60s.

Well, what do you expect? /pol/'s leakier than a sieve.

Modal Jazz was a reaction to Bebop. It relies on much more static harmonic schemes (read: fewer chords), heavier use of pedal-points/drones, and heavier use of quartal chords.

The idea is to lean away from tonal/functional harmony, and put more focus on more free melodic improvisation within more static harmonies (ie: a more horizontal than vertical approach).

It's still tonal, in the sense that there's still a tonal centre, but the harmony is decorative/ornamental rather than functional. Very rarely are the chord progressions even actually written out on modal sheets. Usually soloists will focus on a single diatonic scale (or the modes thereof), and will usually avoid highlighting the diatonic tritone (as that tends to impart functionality).

>There's at least one Jazz thread every day, and has been consistently forever.
K. Link me up to the jazz threads for the last seven days please.

What's the slope of your preference in regards to horizontal or vertical jazz?

that's a god explanation - it ties in with what I hear in the music - thanks.

that's ok - I really don't know much at all - i should have just looked into it instead of asking.

post jazz that people would dance to

youtube.com/watch?v=8URNKeaZjw8

Of the two, generally vertical.
Though, honestly, I'm much more of a rhythm junky, and you can play me Jazz with one note if it's groovy enough.

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Aberdeen?

Almost all of those threads have less than 20 replies and were active for less than 5 hours. Several of those you linked even had zero replies lol

You asked about threads. Those are threads.
The fact that not many people post in them to keep them active is hardly my fault. Jazz just isn't very popular on Yea Forums.

You guys fault for not replying to them I guess, did it really take something as clickbaity and provocative as "urghh god you guys are plebs for not making jazz threads" to get things going? You're as privvy to the tendencies you hate as the rest of Yea Forums

Lol ok

We have seen jazz for what it truly is and have moved on.

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Friend I am happy to say you are very wrong
youtube.com/watch?v=WLYf7nHVjWo
youtube.com/watch?v=NyjW6qcKeAA
youtube.com/watch?v=esDxR3fBxyM
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The genre is more interesting right now than it has been for a long time : )

Why are you salt lil man. He delivered what you asked and answered truthfully. You fags don’t like talking about jazz or contribute, yet complain when they aren’t popular.

can you recc some good rhythm focused albums/ artists?

jazz is one of those genres where most people are super knowledgable or total plebs. the pros are few and have all talked plenty on Yea Forums, then theres the new kids who just want basic reccs, which doesnt generate that much discussion. i

who is JTG?

yosvany terry - today's opinion

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jazzthreadguy, an old trip who may or may not still post here

Sure.
In terms of modern stuff, I've been really enjoying:

Avishai Cohen Trio - Gently Disturbed
Sample: youtu.be/D6KYbpDditU

Phronesis - Walking Dark
Sample: youtu.be/rsAt5fWL4L8

Esbjorn Svenson Trio - Good Morning Susie Soho
Sample: youtu.be/MwpGUBN4AzU

Tigran Hamasyan - Mockroot
Sample: youtu.be/Q0u4v7t0ncA

Fernandez 4 - No Fear
Sample: youtu.be/Xc8DQSjbS8c

Christoph Stiefel - Inner Language Trio
Sample: youtu.be/bt7S3phG0Z8

Dave Holland - Critical Mass
Sample: youtu.be/r087HgCRp6c

Malcolm Braff - Inside
Sample: youtu.be/M2VIGrjonh4

Alarmist - Popular Demaine
Sample: youtu.be/YAWbEb-WW6w

Ari Hoenig - The Pauper and the Magician
Sample: youtu.be/Ai8ykzQUNlM

Groove Catchers - 53
Sample: youtu.be/CqWeHstJeHo

Phishbacher Trio - Dreamcatcher
Sample: youtu.be/TyitX4vZQpo

LABtrio - Fluxus
Sample: youtu.be/ZHLR20NTFDk

Dafnis Prieto - Triangles and Circles
Sample: youtu.be/S_nyROAr7VE

Stéphane Galland - LOBI
Sample: youtu.be/BgqmHRrJ0RU

Hiromi - Another Mind
Sample: youtu.be/bWwe9BslaUQ

Jizue - Bookshelf
Sample: youtu.be/DVJySDCthUI

That sort of stuff.

could you recommend some with dark melodies?

It's too big

Dark melodies? Could you be more specific?
Stuff like this?

youtu.be/IfQRlENZwZo
youtu.be/ikVVRh_tBtw
youtu.be/3_aOfr3MtsU
youtu.be/ETUCsLiHYcs
youtu.be/3Msmpu4cxNs
youtu.be/J80Z4yxErpo
youtu.be/fgNVvSmcyeA

Also, I tend to find that complex/intricate rhythms tend not to work well with darker tunes, at least not unless you're going for outright anger and aggression. There's too much energy to such rhythms to really sustain sadness all that well, which is why you'll notice that second list is decidedly simpler/less groovy that the first one.

listen to this right now, i fucking love rollins' melodies

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Jazz is garbage wankery

Yea Forums hate niggerZZZ music

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They're NOT trolls the jig is fucking up on jazz it blows ass and was always just used as social proof by chart fags. Thank FUCK discussion is just killed on it now.

listening* sorry

absolute ledge. this stuff's pretty great