ITT: right-wing artists

Huh?

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Kanye is unironically a braindead nigger

Conservatives are too dumb and closed minded to ever create anything beautiful. They all write shitty non fiction or run boat dealerships.

yo i listen to Chapo too.

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Why can't Conservicucks make music?

This and attack helicopter stuff are almost unfunny enough to become ironically funny. Just need a few more years.

ITT rightwinger fight imaginary enemies and themselves

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Johnny Ramone

Morrissey and Kanye West are contrarians and always have been, they just like being controversial.

Only a conservative would be stubborn enough to play that fast using only down strokes.

You expect right wingers to be popping pills and making jangly folk pop? We're too busy making money and raising kids to be hanging out at your fuckin Teeny Wolf shows bud

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None

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All music that's aesthetically attractive is fascist. If you're left wing you should be listening to noise (to break the bourgeois ideology of beauty) or political instruction audio books only, as your only interested in improving material conditions and beauty is anti materialist.

>one country guy
Kieth Urban?

Excuse me?

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C O P E
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kek. it actually does sound better that way though. there's a reason why anyone can play blitzkrieg bop (but few can actually sound like johnny ramone)

D. H. Lawrence
H. P. Lovecraft
Gabriele D’Annunzio
Filippo Marinetti
W. B. Yeats
Knut Hamsun
Ezra Pound
Wyndham Lewis
Henry Williamson
Roy Campbell
Richard Wagner
Aleister Crowley
T. S. Eliot
P. R. Stephensen
A. R. D. Fairburn
Count Potocki of Montalk
Yukio Mishima
Dragos Kalajic
Julius Evola
Adolf Hitler
Emonationalist

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There are far more good gay artists than there are good right wing artists, yet there are more right wingers than gays.

>Aleister Crowley
>right wing
Pick one.

he was a massive degenerate.

Maybe there's right wing artists but they don't want to kill they career by saying that they are.

this. Eagles of Death Metal got memory holed real hard when they had that interview after their concert got shot up in Paris and they said they wish everyone had guns.

my mentally disabled uncle who moans the n-word to the tune of wonderwall

is that johnny rebel?
that band was never really famous anyway. biggest recognition they got was being associated with QOTSA and doing some tony hawk/guitar hero video game shit

Hey guys

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>never really famous
And? The thread is just about right wing artist. And why talk about them in past tense, they're still a thing.

Welp.

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The Beatles

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AFTER ALL YOUR MY NIGGERWALL

who can forget lovecrafts pure smile

Bowie used to do that, also claimed he was a fascist and that fascism was just love for one's country. He later blamed it on the drugs, of course.

>pure (Anglo) smile
ftfy

What's the tiny blue patch in the east of the state?

Would be funny and more relevant if someone did a BeanerWall version

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I don't really know much about Crowley. He's included in Kerry Bolton's book "More Artists of the Right" though.
kek
did you know that john lennon beat his meat with the lads?
Based retard unlcle.

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>jangly folk pop
Paddy does.

youtube.com/watch?v=J7jRzGfZFUg

the band kansas lol

Government workers in Topeka.

so true

kek

The Mamas and the Pepes are even closer to that description. They cute.
youtu.be/PpAzU06e1A0

what is it about being landlocked that makes americans go red?

Didn't they later put out Christian songs or something?

Less brown people and (((coastal elites)))

Once upon a time however...

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Are they originals or another parody band like Blink 1488 or White Hot Takes?

This. Wagner was one of the greatest composers of all time AND he basically pioneered Nazism.

>someone believes in different values than me so they have alternative motives for believing those things
classic npc logic

Farmers and rural people want to keep their peaceful, relatively non-freakish lives and property, and the immigrants in the past didn't feel the need to walk that far away from the boat.
They only do originals as far as I know. If they're a parody band they must exclusively parody songs I have never heard, which wouldn't actually surprise me at all.

Kanye is a baffoon who just likes Trump's "fuck you" mentality with the media.

Morrissey is a harder nut to crack. He's probably center right, but will always be an eternal cuckservative because "muh racism" that comes with being an actual nationalist. He also needs to pick a side and stop LARPing as both Irish and English.

youtube.com/watch?v=KKoS5X4SMrY

Literally every single great classical composer

How is this even a question

to this day israel has a problem with wagner.

>person disagrees politically with user
>DOES NOT COMPUTE

What is population density?

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even tho he was jewish he knew about all the "trickery"....maybe thats why he knew...

For someone who had a video banned from MTV because it featured Reagan getting electrocuted, it's weird you think he's right-wing. The same album features "Heavily Bank Account" about how the religious leaders and politicians hold hands with each others money.

Maybe right wing by modern standards, but no way he'd call himself that.

I love Zapper but he was basically a liberal, especially in his time.
He wasn't Jewish. His mother was Italian and French, and his father was Sicilian, with a Greek and Arab ancestry, according to Wikipedia.
I have seen him say one truly right wing thing and that was in regards to the conservation and perpetuation of national culture as opposed to American consumerism.
youtu.be/88zvm7-fhKo

Replied to the wrong person. Sorry, kot.

The South has more POCs than any other part of the country.

he calls himself right wing in his autobiography the real frank zappa book

Zappa was really a libertarian more than anything, he didn't like either communists or Christian conservatives because he thought both were a form of tyranny.

Oh yeah he has these middle right ideas, but they're not specifically in favor of consumerism or capitalism. That one in particular is saying how the country has nothing that is American, that isn't culturally appropriated or based off a brand name item. It's a bit of a broad idea what he says, so I'm not gonna say I'm certain about this, but it comes off more as America isn't anything without Coca-cola, Levi, Ford Cars or anything vaporwave that is colored in USA flags. Americas only strength is it's multiculturalism, and the Brand recognition rampant in our media tarnishes our principles.

But I love that most of his songs are about fingering girls in the ass and cumming and it's awesome.

>That one in particular is saying how the country has nothing that is American, that isn't culturally appropriated or based off a brand name item. It's a bit of a broad idea what he says, so I'm not gonna say I'm certain about this, but it comes off more as America isn't anything without Coca-cola, Levi, Ford Cars or anything vaporwave that is colored in USA flags.

The problem with this thinking is that it could be appended to any country you like. Japan isn't anything without Toyota and Sony, Germany isn't anything without Mercedes and Volkswagen, and so forth.

And just about any country you like has culturally appropriated things from somewhere else.

God only knows what ol' Frank would believe these days, but I doubt he would've taken a liking to Trump. He was contemptuous of authority figures in general.

For those concerned if Zappa would be a flaming shitlib, he would've been a big-brained Libertarian. For what it's worth, he was an ardent defender of free speech. As a guest on CNN's Crossfire, Zappa's opening line says it all, "We're talking about words. I don't believe there's any word that needs to be suppressed."
youtu.be/8ISil7IHzxc

I'd certainly hope he'd be militantly opposed to hate speech laws.

It's weird he would because nothing about what he talks about seems right wing... But it's really if you want to go on about the true intentions of a right wing person, it has nothing to do with social politics. He would be considered right wing in the since of wanting to keep money focused and the government away from public regulations and personal liberties. It's only because being Right-Wing has become more about being super religious and anti-gay, that the idea of him being right-wing doesn't seem right to categorize him as such.

lol you don't have any idea what you're talking about

>It's only because being Right-Wing has become more about being super religious and anti-gay
That was more true in the 80s than today, the Christian fundie movement is not especially strong or relevant now.

zerohplovecraft.wordpress.com/2018/05/11/the-gig-economy-2/

>The problem with this thinking is that it could be appended to any country you like. Japan isn't anything without Toyota and Sony, Germany isn't anything without Mercedes and Volkswagen, and so forth.

No right, it's not like I knew what he meant, just it was how I could interpret what he was trying to say. It's a general discontent with how Americans think high and mighty about being able to FIX other nations.

Also get the feeling that he doesn't have much good things to say about Japan either, but what those cultures have vs us, is an actual culture?

If you want some far-right bands that I like, here you go.

Metal:
Josh Dalviken - The Sword That Slays the Darkness
Seigneur Voland - Seigneur Voland - Final Stand
Spear of Longinus - Nazi Occult Metal
Sons of Satan - In Times of Fire
Absurd - Der fünfzehnjährige Krieg
Thunderbolt - Black Clouds Over Dark Majesty
Bomber - Hang the Reds (1991 demo)
Berserkr - Crush the Weak
Bound For Glory - The Fight Goes On
Bound For Glory - Hate Train Rolling
Buldok - Oheň a led (1999 re-recording in Czech)
Buldok - Triumf
Death Warrant - In the Name of the Race
Durandal - La Peste brune
Einsatzgruppen - Sworn to Blood
Estirpe Imperial - Una Grande Fuerte
Excalibur - Apokalypsa
Finist - Crosses Shall Burn
Fortress - Victory or Valhalla
Fortress - The Fires of Our Rage
Frakass - Boucliers contre boucliers
In Tyrannos - Die Maske fällt!
Iron Youth - Respect/Defend/Create
Nordglanz - Kampfhymnen Germaniens
Mudoven - Truth and Tragedy: Life in the Occupied Zone
Odins Law - Battle Legions of Wotan
Pantheon - Aryan Rebirth
The Raunchous Brothers - Hail Metal....Destroy Faggotry!
RaHoWa - Cult of the Holy War
Shutdown - Pray for War
Spirit of 88 - Totale Kontrolle
Ultimatum - Jeunes et Européens
Xenophobia - Reclaiming Celtic Glory
Aryan Blood - To Build an Empire
Aryan Blood - Through Struggle to Victory
Black Magick SS - Kaleidoscope Dreams
Division S - Attack
Genocide - Propaganda 1939 - 1973
Griffin / Vinland Warriors - Griffin / Vinland Warriors
Honor - In Flames of the Rising Power
Coкиpa Пepyнa [Sokyra Peruna] - For All We Have and Are
Moлaт [Molat] - Бeл-a-poк
Кoлoвpaт [Kolovrat] - Пpaвoe Дeлo

>but what those cultures have vs us, is an actual culture?
But what does that even mean though?

Oh totally, he wrote about how shit that was... let me just post the damn song... He hated religions more then anything else.
youtube.com/watch?v=Wa9UJMjjPPk

>this thread again
youtu.be/2TbbvXK5QS8

>all metal
lol

Billy Graham got a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame in 1988. That's something that could have only happened in that era.

And actually, Ronald Reagan was fairly libertarian on social issues, for example he had no particular qualms with gay people.

Oh really? I should read that.
Libertarianism is mainly just consistent liberalism though, unless we're talking about shit like "Anarcho-monarchism" but that obviously wasn't him. The fact that republicans call socialists "liberals" and think capitalism is not liberal shows how dumb our politicians are and how confusing and useless these terms have become. If I wanted to actually have a substantial conversation with you we would probably have to spend like 10 minutes coming to an agreement on what we mean by the very common political labels we would reference.
He wasn't saying anything about multiculturalism at all in that clip.
I think he would appreciate Trumps vulgarity, economic views, and trollishness, but probably not much else. I'm more interested in what he would have thought of British IDM though tbqh.

>The fact that republicans call socialists "liberals"
The term "liberal" is outdated and meaningless. It's better to just call them Marxists, which they are.

Character limits, bruh.

Oi!/Punk:
Arresting Officers - Land and Heritage
Elite Terror - Flame of Pride
Midtown Bootboys - The Time Has Come
Platoon 14 - We've Come for War
New Glory - Backlash
Skullhead - Odin's Law
Squadron - Our Time Will Come / Take the Sword
Vengeance - Forward Into War
Fatal Blow - Live Demo
Skrewdriver - Boots & Braces
No Remorse - The Best of No Remorse (re-recordings)
Brutal Attack - Stronger Than Before
Battle Zone - Nowhere to Hide
Saccara - Der letzte Mann
Störkraft - Dreckig, kahl und hundsgemein
Chauves Pourris - De Censuré à Vaterland
Bunker 84 - Kombat d'hier et de demain
Evil Skins - L'important C'est De Gagner!
Peggior Amico - Sulla pelle dei ribelli
Razors Edge - Stick to Your Guns

Post-Punk:
Above the Ruins - Songs of the Wofl
Ultime Assaut - Délivrance

New Wave:
Final Sound - "Genetics" (available on "No Surrender Vol.1")
Ultima Thule - The Early Years 1984-87

Hard Rock:
Day of the Sword - Ear to Ear
Kontingent - Générations futures
Dirlewanger - White Power Rock'n'Roll
Skrewdriver - White Rider

Hardcore:
Das Reich - Triumph of the Will
Max Resist - Keep Fighting
No Alibi - Wickedness of Mankind
Fight For Freedom - Ganglife / Wolves Session
Nordic Thunder - Born to Hate
White Pride - Your Loss Is Our Gain
Angry Aryans - Racially Motivated Violence
Blue Eyed Devils - Murder Squad

Just gonna post the video for You Are What You Is and you tell me if he considered Reagan a great libertarian or not. Remember, MTV didn't air it because of that scene.
youtube.com/watch?v=hdCNX9wuwy8

its a great book and i highly recommend anyone read it

I have a much simpler term: egalitarians. If concepts such as democracy, universal suffrage, human rights, social justice and social welfare make you sentimental, then you are an egalitarian.

Western Marxists and anarchists pride themselves on hating liberalism, but participation in their native countries' respective systems and economies effectively neuters any resistance they claim to be posing. If you think squatting in abandoned buildings is impressing anyone but you and similarly deluded cohorts living off the tailings of society (and your parents' money), then you need a reality check.

The only band I recognize is Skrewdriver, guess that says a lot about the right-wing music scene (i.e. its fucking dogshit)

I didn't mention anything about whatever Frank's personal opinion on the guy was.

There aren't very many but there are definite examples. Maureen Tucker, the drummer for the Velvet Underground, was seen at Tea Party rallies. Pete Steele of Type O Negative might even have been a racial segregationist. Johnny Ramone is known to have voted for Bush and supported the NRA, Alice Cooper is known to have supported Bush. Meat Loaf has given interviews about facing industry discrimination as a conservative. Frank Zappa could be characterized as a libertarian (somewhat obscured by the fact that his free speech activism was directed at the Reagan administration).

Keep in mind also that being openly right-wing is intensely vilified in the current industry, while being openly left-wing in your music is not so much (unless it is really obviously bad or too obviously about Trump, like the "I'm With Her" music video). Therefore, as a matter of career expediency, people who are right wing in the music industry will probably no longer express their views, and will especially not express their views in their music which is their main product.

EBIN

Nah, it just says you reject things that don't make it through your little filter bubble.

If you doubt me and just think I'm a man who's gone crazy, then I'll fill you in on a great band: Midtown Bootboys

The debut from the Hammerskins-affiliated Midtown Bootboys flat out kills. It's got that pure American Oi! sound and catchy, punky tunes - what's interesting is the Southern countrified bounce they're performed with and snarling, indeed often agonized vocals. So good it's bizarre. Not just good on its own sloppy spirited terms like most of this stuff, but GOOD. It's like some really tight Jazz musicians got together and put together a fake skinhead band that's way better than anybody would expect just to fuck with people, except it's real. All real.

It's a demo that was illegitimately released as an album, from what I've read--go figure the sound is about ten times more powerful and floorboard-destroying than the professional studio release they did after this. Pretty much impossible to find physically, even online, what an injustice. The recent vinyl reissue must've been like 10 copies. Of all the things to be on the edge of being lost to the mists of time outside the digital ether, it has to be something this good.

"Gunshots are the beat! What you ever heard of that's harder than than..."
youtu.be/qxDEwFrtHQg

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I'm just going to choose to hold back my autistic pedantry now. I've already said too much.
>democracy
See below
>universal suffrage
merit-based, hierarchical suffrage
>human rights
mainly just a pretty face for interventionism
>social justice
Yes, within a homogeneous nation-state
>social welfare
Yes, within a homogeneous nation-state

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>merit-based, hierarchical suffrage
Expressly hierarchical societies are inherently anti-egalitarian.

Flat hierarchies are egalitarian.

Why deny black people rights or help?

>80s
>video about electrocuting Reagan gets banned from MTV
>today
>do video of Trump being electrocuted
>you'd get tons of critical acclaim and Grammy for best music video of the year

There's often a huge disconnect between the fanbase and the artist politically. A lot of artists who have openly attacked Trump have fanbases that are mostly Republicans.

...and all because the nu-emo so-ymale from the 90s couldn't handle this...

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Have they? Because I wish they made videos like that these days...That Reagan one should've been Grammy nominated too, but who cares about the Grammys...?
youtube.com/watch?v=Tf9V0hwJ6qk

Did she get acclaim? Or (deserved) wide spread mockery and critique?

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bump lol

Apologizing was the worst thing she did. You don't do something that edgy and then cuck out.

I'm not understanding your terminology.
Black civil rights has just resulted in blacks benefiting at the expense of whites. American blacks should have their own country. It would probably end up being almost as shitty as Haiti, but that's not my problem.

It's funny how this song is about dudes like Kanye. Black guys trying to erase their blackness so they can be apart of the white crowd.

>Black civil rights has just resulted in blacks benefiting at the expense of whites
*benefitting at the expense of structural racism that favors whites even today in large part, including access to healthcare, education, favorable bank loans, and so on.

Based
A better question might be, why coerce everyone to give them help? Why should whitey not just act in the interest of himself and those in his tribe?
It's pretty clear at this point that the black community proudly considers itself decoupled from white society. If they aren't willing to be a part of it and pull their weight for their fellow man, just what does their fellow man owe to them?
Societies function like a well oiled machine when everyone shares a strong identity with one another, and from my observations, ol' chap, black identity and white identity simply can't be reconciled.

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>It's pretty clear at this point that the black community proudly considers itself decoupled from white society
Are you trying to larp as a 19th century racist? You're doing a very good job of it so far, especially considering that this "decoupling" isn't at all true. Black Americans do not consider themselves decoupled from White America (which is what we assume when we talk about America implicitly) because they deal with the fallout of White America's efforts to curb their political and social power.

>Societies function like a well oiled machine when everyone shares a strong identity with one another
Because civil wars and rioting never happened in an ethnically homogenous state.

Formal hierarchical societies have expressed rules and roles given out to its citizenry. A "merit-based, hierarchical suffrage" you propose would be a right given to only a segment of the population to the exclusion of all others. That would be just one of many functions in a hierarchical society.

By contrast, flat hierarchies are societies that stratify with no institutional power giving out expressed rules and roles. Just look at all the bitchy, mean girls-style gatekeeping that goes on in your average music clique. Now imagine if those same bitchy mean girls had political clout and could garner enough power and influence to determine the course of a country despite no formal authorities existing to lay down the law. Those, my friend, are my idea of a flat hierarchy. No institution exists to designate power, but it arises naturally.

>muh institutional racism

>Black Americans do not consider themselves decoupled from White America (which is what we assume when we talk about America implicitly) because they deal with the fallout of White America's efforts to curb their political and social power.

Hi Tim Wise.

>>>>muh institutional racism
Oh fuck i just got blown out Ben Shapiro style

"Institutional racism" is pure ideology that serves as little more than a glorified blood libel against white people. When it comes right down to it, all their arguments boil down to "It's your fault, whitey!"

>When it comes right down to it, all their arguments boil down to "It's your fault, whitey!"
Is it fair to punish you and me for something we had nothing to do with? No ancestor of mine owned a slave, they were still in Austria someplace when slavery was abolished.

It doesn't to these people. By virtue of being white and living in America, you are participating in a system that structurally oppresses people of color.

This is their line of thinking. Even if you rehearse all their talking points and repeat them at any given opportunity without lapse, you'll still be guilty of being white.

Whiteness is the original sin.

White genocide

No its not fair, but you benefit from a system that favors and gives advantage to white people even if you weren't a part of the slave-owning caste. These advantages are implicit and built in to the very foundation of modern society. You are steeped in the racial history of America without even realizing it.

There would be none of these inequities in a black American nation-state, unless the light skins started oppressing the dark skins or something. What you're saying is more or less historically correct though, even though health care has been recently majorly overhauled. Blacks get affirmative action later in life but their pre-college schools are still pretty shitty, partly because of economic conditions caused by historical white supremacy, but partly because of rowdy black behavior and relatively lower average intelligence. I think if blacks were really being oppressed by whites today there would be more black nationalism though, because people who are actually oppressed want to escape. Access to predominantly white welfare funds, job markets, infrastructure, abortion rights, etc. allow blacks to have a better quality of life than they naturally have when left to their own devices.
You said it much better than I felt like saying it.
I guess by that terminology I'm arguing for deriving a formal hierarchy from a flat hierarchy that is required to fulfill certain socially beneficial requirements in order to gain power, unless I'm misunderstanding something still.

>>>There would be none of these inequities in a black American nation-state
Where would this African-American nation-state be exactly? You have to have some idea of what land you'd be willing to benignly give away to get your ethno-state.
>>>but partly because of rowdy black behavior and relatively lower average intelligence
Drawn from statistics that do not also cite how black students are more likely to receive disciplinary infractions compared to their white classmates engaging in the same activities. Additionally, not controlling for socioeconomic factors (since when white people and black people are situation in the same poverty level they *SURPRISE* perform almost identically on tests) which are skewed towards whites due to innate wealth that they've acquired over decades/centuries.
>>>I think if blacks were really being oppressed by whites today there would be more black nationalism
Don't worry the FBI, police, and many others did a very good job of shooting as many black nationalists as they could or locked them up.

>but you benefit from a system that favors and gives advantage to white people even
Because Oprah and Jay-Z are so poor, right?

>No its not fair, but you benefit from a system that favors and gives advantage to white people even if you weren't a part of the slave-owning caste. These advantages are implicit and built in to the very foundation of modern society

Are you a time traveler from the 1890s?

>Where would this African-American nation-state be exactly?
It would depend on how things go in the future and what becomes possible. I can imagine an ethnostate (or a multiracial state) somewhere in the south or in and around Liberia.

Differences in intelligence are too much of a can of worms to get into at this hour.

>Don't worry the FBI, police, and many others did a very good job of shooting as many black nationalists as they could or locked them up.
I'd like to know more about this. Preferably something I could watch or read since this thread will probably be deleted soon.

You've got to be fucking kidding me

Country, hard rock and metal usually attract a right-leaning fanbase while alternative rock tends to have a left-leaning fanbase.

The defining feature of a flat hierarchy is soft power, hence the mean girls analogy. Flat hierarchies are run by linchpins. That is, people don't have any formal power but are influential enough that any given group quickly unravels if they're gone.

By contrast, formal hierarchies all use hard power (ie: laws, police, military, political institutions, et cetera). The law of the land begins and ends with the people in charge of running the machine, and they set it up so others can take their place and keep business running as usual in perpetuity.

He's probably referring to Stokely Carmichael and Fred Hampton.

I think Richard D. James might be right wing, or at least pro-gun and other right-wing opinions. He has some pretty out there beliefs and loves to troll so it's hard to tell.

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Fuck communism

Most artists are left because they don't want to do real jobs.

Rob Halford and...I'm drawing a blank here.

>Keep in mind also that being openly right-wing is intensely vilified in the current industry, while being openly left-wing in your music is not so much (unless it is really obviously bad or too obviously about Trump, like the "I'm With Her" music video). Therefore, as a matter of career expediency, people who are right wing in the music industry will probably no longer express their views, and will especially not express their views in their music which is their main product.

I agree. A lot of artists who are either indifferent to or perhaps even secretly admire Trump can't come out and admit it because it's career suicide, they have to at least pretend to dislike the guy.

Wagner was an idealist liberal and had socialistic beliefs in his youth, he became gradtually more reactionary as he aged.

Reading this thread it's pretty clear that "right wing" just means "old conservative religious stuffy asshole", and obviously those aren't going to have a lot of notable artists.

If you include anyone with political views that are not leftist, though, the list is huge. And you'd need to factor in the people who are smart enough not to speak out publically

>Reading this thread it's pretty clear that "right wing" just means "old conservative religious stuffy asshole",
Where do you get that take from? I'm missing it.

There's Rush and Josh Homme.

I think you guys are considerably overestimating Frank Zappa's intelligence. He knew a lot about music, but outside of that the dude was incredibly ill-informed and ill-read about practically everything.

a lot more than you think (and they'll never publicly out themselves any time soon) but right wing is vague and broad
was this thread made by some tankie or something

>In his intro to Consumer Guide to the '80s, Christgau expressed disillusionment with Johnny Ramone, Neil Young, Joan Jett, Paul Westerberg, and Nick Rhodes for their political stances during the decade

>if he doesn't fit my narrow definition of something, then it's not true!

and you'd be surprised how many degenerates you have in your camp

>the immigrants in the past didn't feel the need to walk that far away from the boat.
I kek'd

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and now I want to listen to Minor Threat

>the only thing right wingers make music about is white nationalism

fuckin a

notice how all right-wing music is essentially derived from rock n roll, a music invented by African-Americans

Which they abandoned long ago. Rock music became a white man's genre in the late 50s.

no-one in alaska voted?

okay, this is epic.

They became friends because they were the two only Republicans at their high school

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by a angry so-y boy

wait what
a good chunk of the south isn't landlocked.
VA, NC, SC, GA, FL, AL, MS, and TX have some connection to the sea.

Does Coil count if they're both dead?

Uh huh.

We have a political force here in Western, European/white, Civilization that is fomenting the subjection of the pre-existing peoples, their culture, and their concerns to others. And you sit here and tell me that this force isn't conquest? You're a brainwashed stupid fucker aren't you.

Civilization, like the rest of the blue patches.

Based Ultima Thule

Hitler was actually a socialist

He also forced those who could but refused to work to work. He was really a centralist economically, just really high up on the authoritarian scale.

pretty obvious

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When will his rap mixtape be out?

>Topeka
>civilization
You've never been to Kansas, have you?

^This.

Douglas Pearce is both right AND gay

>Don't worry the FBI, police, and many others did a very good job of shooting as many black nationalists as they could or locked them up.
They didn't take them out because they were black, they took them out because they were Marxists often funded by the KGB.

t. classist bourgeois cuck

killing american citizens is okay when they disagree with government policy! based and redpilled!

oh whats that? you're against war in the middle east? BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG LIBTARD DISMANTLED BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG COMMUNIST ANNIHILATED BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG CRRRCCK KABOOOOOOOOM BRRRRRRRRRRRTTT ALPHA DELTA ZETA I NEED BACKUP REPEAT I NEED BACKUP THERE ARE LIBTARDS HERE WHO DONT WANT TO INVADE VENEZUELA PERMISSION TO DROP MOAB COPY THAT OVER KABBBABABOOOOOOOOOOOOM OHHH BEAUTIFUL FOR SPAAAACIOUS SKIES FOR AMBER WAVES OF GRAAAAAIN

Source on this? Homme always seemed like a heavy metal "fuck you" version of a 60's hippy to me

communism has killed more people than the police could ever even dream of.
maybe people don't want society to crumble because some people are too idealistic and don't understand human nature.

He didn't say it was okay.

lol might as well say capitalism has killed far more considering weapons sold

this logic is so retarded and i'm not even leftist

Morrissey's anti-tetcherism is a right-wing?

They were domestic terrorists though.

To be honest it's possible to be on the right and still disagree with Thatcher and what she did, namely having no plans for replacing nationalized industry.

but tetcherism helped british economy

bootlicking cia nigger

Yeah obviously, that's why there was a recession in the late80s-mid90s and no jobs anywhere.

the second point still stands regardless.
we don't live in a utopia and we literally never will.
people are shitty and do shitty things and there is absolutely nothing you can do to stop them, short of murder (please try to conceal your erection at the idea).
people will do the exact opposite of what you want them to, specifically because they want to rebel against perceived authority. it's human nature and it will never change.

that isnt a counterargument against leftism tho thats stating the obvious in response to every ideology on the planet

human nature is pretty obviously not about rebellion tho idiot, the entire history of humanity is based on working together. that doesn't make it fucking utopia but rejecting the nature of human beings as pack animals par excellence whose dominion of the planet is entirely due to their ability to work together is intellectually deficit.

This has been a good thread so none of you are getting deported to /pol/

*every authoritarian ideology on the planet

all ideologies are authoritarian otherwise they're just speculation idiot

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libertarianism and anarchism are authoritarian?

Easy

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This but unironically

The only difference is that authoritarians force their own speculation onto other people

I don't know if she's actually right wing but Kate Bush got all her lefty fans in a meltdown a few years ago when she said she was pro-brexit and didn't hate theresa may. anything that isnt fellating communism these days has them imagining nazis everywhere

>human nature is pretty obviously not about rebellion tho idiot, the entire history of humanity is based on working together. that doesn't make it fucking utopia but rejecting the nature of human beings as pack animals par excellence whose dominion of the planet is entirely due to their ability to work together is intellectually deficit.

On the other hand, if you're too collective-minded, you end up with East Asia where people are virtual slaves who work 16 hour days in a tiny cubicle in Kyoto.

It's the left that have become ardently pro-war and interventionism

this is what I meant.
they expect everyone to fall in line with their own ideals. that's the only way a communist utopia would work, if every single person was on the same page about every single issue.

but what would happen if someone didn't agree with them or want to go along with them?
what would they do with that person?

Flat hierarchies do this as well, only softly.

Have you not heard of soft power?

was I supposed to think this was good?
because it's awful, like truly awful with no redeeming qualities.

If we're talking artists then only California matters out of all that shit and that's blue

I don't care about that.
answer my questions.
what would they do if someone didn't want to play ball with them?

Vae Victis has some fascinating credentials such two of their members' previous connection to Ultime Assaut and prominently featuring a female vocalist. Their music blends Celtic themes with hard riffs and folksy instrumentation. The album is a thoroughly fun affair in spite of being somewhat predictable.

The opening track begins with all-too-familiar epic yet whimsical motifs that would sound more at home scoring the opening scene to a forgotten '90s high fantasy RPG. The progressions feel tacked on for the sake of genre aesthetics, but they set the tone for the rest of the EP. All the songs are of an enjoyable length that don't overstay their welcome.

The songwriting here all compliment the themes established by the music. As you would've surmised, our title track is a tribute to the Frankish King who successfully unified all the tribes under one ruler. "La Dame du Lac" goes into Arthurian territory. The sole overtly political track here is "Résistant Gaélique," pleading for a ceasefire between the Irish Nationalists and Ulster Loyalists. Although I do not speak a word of French, our vocalist Carine conveys these lyrics wonderfully with her angelic voice.

The highlight here is the title track with its energetic riffs that convey the narrative. All the other tracks here are much softer and emotive. In the end, you're left yearning for more, but the band provides the satisfying introductory experience for those seeking Nationalist Celtic Rock.
youtu.be/4m67CKyPsew
youtu.be/716U01t4vug
youtu.be/DvgEuODudTY

Clovis EP:
youtu.be/0rIATOkXFSc
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France's Aion (AIΩN) presents a phenomenal fusion of Industrial Rock and Neofolk with some undercurrents of Coldwave and gothy Post-Punk that become much more prominent towards the B-Side.

Aion was a project of Laurent "Bart" Steiner and Stéphane Vadviz. Laurent was connected to Front National de la Jeunesse (FNJ), who helped organize concerts for Rock Identitaire. Aion played one show of note with Vae Victis and In Memoriam.

Perhaps most intriguing is this album's multilingual affair. Apart from their native tongue, two songs are in English along with one in Italian and another in Latin. Per the conventions of the genre, lyrics cover Paganism and Fascist Futurism.

Highlights: "Sous l'orage", "Devotio", "Au milieu des ruines", "Ceux qui vont venir" and "L'ascète et le guerrier - Version 99"
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Aude Mirković (née Bertrand) is a French singer/songwriter who sang in the band Elendil and her solo project Brixia. After music, she earned a law degree from one of France's top law schools and is now a legal scholar and lawyer.

Her most controversial views concern her opposition to gay marriage, gay adoption and in-vitro fertilization. Naturally, she's also very pro-life.

The band Brixia's first couple releases were a mix of Alt Rock and Dream Pop:
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Aude Bertrand cited The Cranberries as her chief source of inspiration whose lyrics reflected her Catholic faith. The trouble with their first couple albums was the brittle production values. The melodies were there, but the budget wasn't.

Their last couple singles is where they really came into their own in no small part from Julien Beuzard. Wish they'd made one more full-length album in the vein of these. That heavier sound complimented the style well:
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Elendil was a mix of Alternative Rock and Ska:
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They are not ideologies until enacted, and there is no action without force, and authoritarianism is defined by force.

Anarchism becomes authoritarian when it becomes Catalonia, amigo.

I really hope you aren't this autistic and you're baiting

L bertarian commies avoid that problem. "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs". The basic principle is that if you refuse to be held accountable for your actions then you're not welcome there. Otherwise you're free to espouse whatever ideals you want.

"No distinction can be drawn between the work of each man. Measuring the work by its results leads us to absurdity; dividing and measuring them by hours spent on the work also leads us to absurdity. One thing remains: put the needs above the works, and first of all recognize the right to live, and later on, to the comforts of life, for all those who take their share in production.."

Please note that I do not condone communism.

>The basic principle is that if you refuse to be held accountable for your actions then you're not welcome there. Otherwise you're free to espouse whatever ideals you want.

Could that be anymore vague? Something tells me anything that upsets the status quo would be immediately suppressed and mediocrity would be tolerated so long as it supports those in power.

ok boomer

So what about right-wing noise?

Yeah exactly. The ideal of communism is not the reality and that's usually what ends up happening.

the power of jerrymandering

I take it you haven't heard of this:
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global top 50 on sp#tify

>the power of jerrymandering

huh?

North Korea is also actually a Democratic Republic

>then you're not welcome there.
then where are you supposed to go?
I'm talking about real people, not about the ideas.
think about "you're not welcome here" actually means.
what would they propose to do with people who don't want to be a part of a communist utopia?
re-education camps? execution?

and best case scenario, if they were to just be physically removed from your new territory, where would they go? you kicked them out of their home, where they may have lived for their whole lives, maybe even generations.

and sorry I'm not holding you personally responsible for communism, just posing some questions.

Hitler was a right wing socialist emo nationalist, like me!

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Hi guys

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Well what often ends up happening is homogenous thinking and exclusionary politics towards contrary views. People who can think for themselves can find a government that better suits them, or in mixed economy countries just embrace capitalism like one rationally ought to imo.

Wouldn't be the first time I've heard this exchange. Get some new arguments.

reminder that national socialism means:
national: a nation
socialist: people

"a nation and his people"

socialism its the literal term back in those days not the modern political interpretation. example "liberals" are not really liberal in terms of economics and government.

I'd argue liberals are adherents to the founding principle, that being "equality," which is why liberalism will always lead to communism, which is enforced equality by any means.

I’ll get some new arguments when you explain which of hitler’s policies were socialistic

Yea Forums is a dumpster fire.

this docu is stright from the 30s national socialist manifesto about "why beauty matters"

youtube.com/watch?v=bHw4MMEnmpc&t=176s

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>I don't want to know.

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this lmao

>Ding Dong the witch is dead

The Ramones.
They hated commies and Tommy was an outspoken Republican who supported George Bush.
Fuck The Ramones.

Morrissey was just a little old school.
Bit of a cheeky racist to asians but deffo supported the working classes, sung about their struggles regularly.

Nazism was based around a variant of Marxist class struggle, in this case the Aryan race was the proletariat and the Jew the exploiter class.

Homme stood up for the other guy as people bullied him and they became friends and probably this too.

Anarchist, Anti-Imperialist, Anti-Communist, Anti Nationalist, Materialist, Consumerist.

Not a right winger.

>Tommy
>supported George Bush
Kikes gonna kike

na it's funny

how say he was? you didn't even get the joke you are so uptight soi liberal.

every jap artist ever desu

especially noise, like les rallizes dénudés...

butthurt beanboys

>1a : a manner or the content of thinking characteristic of an individual, group, or culture
>b : the integrated assertions, theories and aims that constitute a sociopolitical program
>c : a systematic body of concepts especially about human life or culture
>2 : visionary theorizing

So, wrong on every count.

Morrissey spoke about the racial bullshit since beginning of 90s, these cucks that was furious because of his latest album can fuck off in general. Now to something that pissed the libs off because they dont understand the lyrics
youtube.com/watch?v=O1cTiqXWKII

Goatmoon
Wehrwolf (belarus)
M8L8TH
Nordglanz
Ulfhethnar
Bilskirnir
Absurd
Sleipnir
VII Batallon de la Muerte
Stormheit
Division Germania
Ian Stuart
Heiliger Krieg
Race War
Campo de Mayo
Fanisk
Michael Muller
Faktor Deutschland
Blutzeugen
Ubermensch
Uberzeugungstater
Blitzkrieg (germany)
Wolfnacht
Weisse Wolfe
Oidoxie

There now fuck off

All of these are fucking garbage.

Because you surely have heard them all faggot
actually I fucking dare you to

Expect my post on Yea Forums by this time next week.

I sure will lad, have fun

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