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I remember a quote from Mark Twain that basically said "If Jesus were alive today the one thing he would not be is a Christian."

Was there a story or article about this to fill in the context?

nobody cares. Trump 2020!!!

Jews

Fuck jews

>Being wealthy is dangerous

Mark Twain was based as fuck

if you take politicians at face value you deserve the worst. Bernie would never deliver anything durable except the collapse of the system

“Free”

Understand this word before postulating anything, ever.

Sometimes a cleansing fire is needed to thin out an overgrown forest

Disagree.

>Jesus never discussed dangers of extreme wealth. He told his followers to sell their belongings and serve The Kingdom. But He never said money was evil. The closest he ever came to saying anything along those lines is that it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man to enter Heaven. This after a rich man asked what he must do to enter Heaven. We are encouraged to store up treasures in Heaven where moth and rust do not destroy.

>Jesus never mentioned anything about free healthcare. He healed people to show his supreme power and authority. By this logic, we should all get free food as well because he fed the 5,000 with bread and fish. Yet Paul says if a man does not work, he shall not eat.

Stop manipulating the Bible to fit an agenda. Jesus was not a socialist, capitalist, conservative or liberal. Jesus wanted all of us to see the bigger picture and to look towards the afterlife. For us to leave behind positivity rather than wickedness.

Shitty analogies aren’t political arguments

Twain was a fag and so are you

They aren't followers of Jesus, they are Christians.
It's a great, 'connect the dots', game with the new and old testament. Any local priest or deacon can make their own version!
Little to do with Jesus though.

This, and to show us the way to everlasting life, through himself.

I see your one of those neo liberal "christians" . Youll burn in hell with the rest ofthe faggots you worthless apostate

How so?

Fuck all politicians they're all rich they're not ever going to look out for us. I only want to vote Biden because he's setting up oroarke to take guns and I want to get this shit show started so we can finally civil war and shoot people

That...is a shocking amount of logic. Well played, Joker.

As a german i just can say that the american People are dumbest humans Walking on the Surface of this planet. Zero common Knowledge, arrogant and retarded.

Ah yes the people who started a war with basically the entire world are going to talk about how stupid my countrymen are. Imagine calling Americans arrogant when your country wouldn’t exist without them. Did you forget about the 70 years your country was split in half?

>zero common knowledge
Hmm weird..wonder how they got so big and powerful.

I'm not disagreeing with you. But y'all started this shit Nazi. You shouldn't have told the squinty eyed ones to blindside us.

And by blindside, I mean we knew about it all along and needed a reason to jump in and stomp a mud hole.

Thats over dude. Your countrymen voted for Trump. Please i dont know how you can listen to him for more then 2 minutes. Someone like him as a leading figure is a total failure. Yeah the americans helped us. Im thankful but what i see know is a declining Country and a rising Country (China) that doesnt recognice western values. I hope that Bernie wins. It would be the best for all of ya.

On the back of slaves. You are Eating yourself up now. There are just foreignes coming to your countrey because there is Money. I dont think this will be a Thing in +15 years.

Listen baby-Hitler, the EU is falling apart. Open borders have thoroughly and truly fucked over Europe and that was all orchestrated by the global elite. You can't look at Trump and call him a favor when your women are getting raped on a regular basis and you can't even keep butter knives for your bread.

>free healthcare
it isn't free, because the taxpayer is paying for it, so that niggers and communists don't have to (not that they can)

>dangers of extreme wealth
wealth is earned, and since we're all born free, we are within our right to pursue it, as long as we aren't breaking any laws.

Don't seeth because you're a basement dwelling neckbeard and fedora tipper who is incapable of competing in society.

Yeah the nazis fucked up everything. I hate Hitler. without it europe would be Germany dominated in other way then its now. In every Society there are stupid People like +30% but in america i sometimes Thing its more like +60%. No offense.

>Yet Paul says if a man does not work, he shall not eat.
Nobody should care what Paul says. Paul took the church from a free organization to a monolithic authority.

>idk how you can listen to him
I don’t. Maybe if you weren’t a retard you’d understand there’s more to politics than rhetoric. I agree he’s a clown but in office I don’t actually mind a lot of what he’s done. I’m just saying you shouldn’t call an entire country stupid, when your country declared war on everyone and destroyed itself and all of Europe. Your people caused the deadliest conflict in all of history but you have the nerve to call an entire country dumb?

Stop it with the fucking capitalization

t. german

Kikes are evil. End of.

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HAHAHAHA!!!! :D
2015 was a overwhelming Situation. Look now how we handle it. We learned, It i can promise you the Situation is not as severe as you think. There are some more refugees but its not apocalyps if you Arent a autistic fucktard. I talk with them and they are just humans. Yeah muslims and this shit but you can life with. them.

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>Listen baby-Hitler, the EU is falling apart.
Any day now!

I don't like Jews, and never will, but you have to contribute to society in order to take from it, and as the global population increases, that will inevitably get harder, but it has to be done. It is sink or swim in this life.

>Jesus never said money was evil
>Jesus said it's impossible for the rich to go to heaven

Makes me wonder what his standard for a "money is evil" quote would be..

>Yet Paul says if a man does not work, he shall not eat.
As for what his stance would be for those who live off of return on inherited equity, one can only guess. As for how this is usually interpreted by American evangelicals, let's just say that the poorer the sheep in question are, the more foul they're told their souls are. Naturally this makes the matter of ethics in what one does to make ends meet secondary to the glory of quantity raked in.

I see what he wants. He does allot to weaken the EU. To Keep a good negoation Situation with each Country. Force deals with other Country with huge disadavantages for them. Yeah its all good for you but america destroys the western alliance with it. On the Long run it weakens the western Lifestyle and at the end we got overrun by the chinese.

I've actually had that thought for a while now. That Paul gave formal organization to what Jesus seemed to teach as an overall positive mindset.

Somebody has been watching fox news

I see what you did there.

>western alliance
>implying you’re not all worthless leeches
Ok

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they are comparing Bernie Sanders to Jesus

Most of that US budget is not related to NATO. That's just what it costs to wage a forever war all over the planet. The only leeches here are defense contractors, leeching your taxes to spend million on blowing up sandpeople tents.

A defense budget can be quite modest, it's not expensive to hold people off. It's expensive to attack on the other side of the world.

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Really?
You attacked Afghanistan and Iraq. To maintain that it Costs.
The Germany Military Budget is pushed down in the last years. They aim to build an EU army. Then we should hit the 2 % .

this is why 95 percent of the time,conservatives vote republican

You can blame Europe for that. Roman Catholic Church made Jesus white and demonized middle eastern / black people.

>That's just what it costs to wage a forever war all over the planet
most of it is just a creative way to keep useless people employed without resorting to communist policies like welfare

Thanks

Actually it’s completely related to NATO, because if Germany got invaded tomorrow all of that defense spending would be used to protect you. Meanwhile Germany can’t even pay 2% of its GDP. You’re leeches. You’ve been leeching since 1945.

mark twain is an idiot,Jesus was a jew

Thanks, have a T-Shirt.

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Assuming Jesus is real, he doesn't really have to tell anyone "Greed is bad" because everyone knows that's what it is. The bible is a "rule book" of the most retarded easy to logically come up with ways to not be a total fuckwad dickface cuntbag. All y'all who take the bible way too seriously and literally, like everything has to be written down in order for it to be interpreted the way it reads, are fucking stupid and devoid of any self-awareness and morality. The bible would be 100000000000 pages long if everything had to be written down, as if people have to be reminded how to breathe and eat.

Kill yourselves, religious mouthbreathing pieces of shit.

You really think any billionaire has ever worked 6000 times harder than you? It's bullshit. Capitalism is bullshit.

>Actually it’s completely related to NATO, because if Germany got invaded tomorrow all of that defense spending would be used to protect you.
Hardly. The US wouldn't suddenly pull off all its assets from its various projects all over the world. There isn't an enemy that would justify this, and it would leave your asian commitments overly exposed.

I’m not saying it should be the same as the US. We spend too much on the military and it’s a problem but you barely spend anything because you’re leeches. It just infuriates me how pretentious and arrogant Euros can be towards Americans. They conveniently forget that there would have been a Red Army flag over flying over Paris if it weren’t for us.

The Roman Consul Lentulus wrote a letter to the Emperor. In this, Lentulus describes the condemned man, Jesus of Nazareth, as having blue eyes and blond hair:
“A noble and lively face, with fair and slightly wavy hair; black and strongly curving eyebrows, intense penetrating blue eyes and an expression of wondrous grace. His nose is rather long. His beard is almost blonde, although not very long. His neck is slightly inclined so that He never appears to be bitter or arrogant. His tanned face is well proportioned. It gives the impression of gravity in wisdom, sweetness and good, and is completely lacking in any sign of anger.”
“Lentulus, the Governor of the Jerusalemites to the Roman Senate and People, greetings. There has appeared in our times, and there still lives, a man of great power (virtue), called Jesus Christ. The people call Him prophet of truth; His disciples, son of God. He raises the dead, and heals infirmities. He is a man of medium size (statura procerus, mediocris et spectabilis); He has a venerable aspect, and His beholders can both fear and love Him. His hair is of the colour of the ripe hazel-nut, straight down to the ears, but below the ears wavy and curled, with a bluish and bright reflection, flowing over His shoulders. It is parted in two on the top of the head, after the pattern of the Nazarenes. His brow is smooth and very cheerful with a face without wrinkle or spot, embellished by a slightly reddish complexion. His nose and mouth are faultless. His beard is abundant, of the colour of His hair, not long, but divided at the chin. His aspect is simple and mature, His eyes are changeable and bright. He is terrible in His reprimands, sweet and amiable in his admonitions, cheerful without loss of gravity. He was never known to laugh, but often to weep. His stature is straight, His hands and arms beautiful to behold. His conversation is grave, infrequent, and modest. He is the most beautiful among the children of men.”

>He healed people to show his supreme power and authority.

It is funny how that in the Danish church that is interpenetrated as an act of selfless kindness and as a manifastisation of "love thy neighbor"

You say that, but there were thousands of years and even currently people struggle with cultural norms that you speak of without the belief in some sort of rule.

I don't 100% believe ONLY the Bible. It has been heavily edited and lost in translation over thousands of years. We are "judged" based on what we know and how we conduct ourselves.

Same. But nobody was healing before that time. One could suggest it was a display of both.

Yeah...no. This is a bullshit letter that appear in Italy in the 15th century. It's almost certainly a forgery.

why should the dumb guys who carry heavy rocks back and forth be paid more than the smart guy who built a cart and put wheels on it? the dumb guys surely work a lot harder for less results.

Except it's fake, but nice try.

>I DON'T LIKE THIS! IT'S FAKE! IT'S A FORGERY! REEEEEEE!

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I see it but we got plans for the future. To unify our armies so that the eu Overall spends 2% of the gdp for the army, If the red flag would be over Paris it would be over new York too. America couldnt handle the whole world against us. I dont hate americans. Its just a shame what kind of People are in charge. I hope they will get back on track really. i pray for this.

You know in the bible, when jesus was alive, he also was not Christian?
Moron.

It certainly doesn't take a scholar to notice that no one in the 1st Century, Roman or not, had a sensibility like that of the alleged Lentulus.

I think you misunderstand the Twain quote, it implies that he would not be able to identify with the people who defy him, as they are so far removed from his teachings.

>If the red flag would be over Paris it would be over new York too.
You’re a retard with no comprehension of history. In 1945 at the end of the war the Red Army was fucking massive. If we hadn’t been there the USSR would have taken over Europe all the way to the Atlantic. There’s no possible way they could ever conquer the US and “fly a a red flag over New York” we had and have the most powerful navy in the world and we were the only country with nuclear weapons. The US is literally unconquerable. You on the other hand would be speaking Russian without us, and you’d have a nice big statue of Lenin in Berlin. Your knowledge of history is embarrassing.

>i hate hitler

maybe this would matter if you actually knew anything about him,but nope.your just a shit for brains buzzword using liberal moron