Ask a zoophile anything

None, I've actually never really gravitated toward anthropomorphic furry type stuff. I don't find it cringy or anything, I'm just not particularly interested.

What breeds have you been knotted by and how long did it last?

Interesting given that the word zoophile and furry are entirely interchangeable.

So far, just a boxer. At first it lasted for about 10 minutes or so but later on it sort of whittled down to about 5.

You're a sick motherfucker

Actually, not really. From what I've seen, the furry community hates zoos with a much stronger seething passion than what could ever be exhibited from normies.
I think it's mostly performative; the furries are tired of being branded as dogfuckers so they protest as loud as possible whenever possible to distance themselves as far away from that as they can. A lot of the furries I've met can't seem to stress enough that they're not into real animals, they're just into fantasy personas.
Then again, I don't really know shit about the furry community, so...

If anyone has zoo for trade or if you want to talk about your experiences with me kik me at: Ladiousisbad

M or f user?

Your opinion of me is irrelevant to me. Nevertheless, it's an opinion that you're entitled to.

I'm male.

why would you watch a dog awkwardly fuck a russian broad when interracial exists?

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Have you ever done anything with a bitch?

Is this some kind of inside joke I'm not understanding, or...?

No, I'm not attracted to female dogs; only males. The inverse is true with humans on the rare occasions that I find myself attracted to them.

awww. i like chicks banging dogs, for guys - i just hope you never hurt them.

I try to go out of my way to avoid inflicting any kind of harm. I only participate when the animal initiates and I try to end the encounter as soon as the animal expresses any kind of discomfort or anything like that. If you do everything correctly, it doesn't seem to manifest any behavioral changes in the animal.
I think dogs can even tell when it is and isn't appropriate to try and initiate with certain people. The boxer only displayed horny behavior when it was just me and him, for example.

That denial is the very crux of why they have fursonas, they hide behind their alternate life in order to seem normal on the oustide. Same goes for their homosexuality. Ask them how many of them are straight in day-to-day and they will respond with mostly hetero, ask in their fursonas, and they are all some variation of queer. Same goes for zoophilia.

do you like stranger things too?

I find Stranger Things incredibly tedious and bloated. Way overrated.

why haven't you killed yourself yet you disgusting fuck.

Because I don't want to die?

Do you think dogs enjoy licking cock and eating cum as much as they appear to?

Not particularly. I think that's a behavior that is reinforced by positive feedback on the human's end. Licking isn't really a sexual thing for dogs the way it is for people.

When did you start feeling attractions to animals - you sound like you were quite young when it happened?
Are you attracted to people? Have you had enjoyable sexual relationships with people? How do those compare to getting off with an animal? Which one do you prefer?
Do you have any other 'fetishes' or peccadilloes?

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>When did you start feeling attractions to animals - you sound like you were quite young when it happened?
I was; I started feeling attractions to animals around the same time I started having sexual urges at all. I was basically a child. 7 or 8, I think?
>Are you attracted to people?
Yes, but very rarely.
>Have you had enjoyable sexual relationships with people?
Twice. Once in high school and once again when I was 21.
>How do those compare to getting off with an animal?
I find the human body just...incredibly boring compared to dogs.
>Which one do you prefer?
Dogs and equines, by a longshot. I'm not disgusted by humans or anything, I'm just sort of indifferent.
>Do you have any other 'fetishes' or peccadilloes?
I have a few slightly bizarre fetishes with people, none with animals. I really like it when girls sit on and straddle balloons until they pop. I also like belly inflation and fisting. Otherwise, no, not a big fetishist.

oink, oink

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>I try not to engage with animals sexually overall, though.
>So far, just a boxer

What do you find the most erotic or interesting part of the dog or horse, and most erotic or interesting part of the human, albeit less interesting?
Do you have any longings to be in a romantic relationship with people? I imagine that if you do, it's quite difficult considering your preferences.
Is there any desire to make the animal 'enjoy it', as in doing it to please them, on your part?

In my defense, I haven't had sex with an animal in almost a decade, and even then, I've only ever had sex with one.

>What do you find the most erotic or interesting part of the dog or horse,
It's not a physical thing? It's something about their behavior. I mean, it's also physical; I find dogs and horses incredibly sexy and my heart kind of skips a beat when I see them, but dogs have really amazing personalities that I find irresistible. It's not a power thing, and I'm not anthropomorphizing them in my mind or anything like that, it's just, I don't know...it seems like there's a level of trust that you can afford with a dog that you can't with people. In a way, it feels like you can be so much closer with an animal than you can with a person, without actually having a conversation with them.
>and most erotic or interesting part of the human, albeit less interesting?
I don't really form romantic feelings for people. Don't know why, I just don't. I find the female body attractive, but not as attractive as male dogs and horses. I have no interest in the male human body.
For humans, it's strictly visual/sexual. I can form other types of relations with people, just not romantic.
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>Do you have any longings to be in a romantic relationship with people?
Not really? I guess I'd be open to it if I fell in love with a person; it's happened once before but not very strongly. It was sort of a, "I think I might like this one more than the others? Not sure," type thing, but it wasn't like I was immediately lovestruck the way I've heard people describe it, the way I've felt with certain animals.
>I imagine that if you do, it's quite difficult considering your preferences.
The hardest thing is keeping everything a secret and being constantly perceived as a distant weirdo. Other than that, it's not so bad actually.
>Is there any desire to make the animal 'enjoy it', as in doing it to please them, on your part?
Yes, of course. It's not fun for me if it doesn't seem fun for the animal. That's a large part of the reason I hate the majority of zoophile porn and avoid it like the plague; a lot of it seems forced and joyless. Not all of it, but the majority.

>.it seems like there's a level of trust that you can afford with a dog that you can't with people. In a way, it feels like you can be so much closer with an animal than you can with a person, without actually having a conversation with them.
that's interesting even though I can't claim to understand it fully.
>The hardest thing is keeping everything a secret and being constantly perceived as a distant weirdo. Other than that, it's not so bad actually.
Yeah the stigma would be the most difficult part. But it seems like because you don't get romantically interesting in women in the first place that it's not a big problem for you.
>Yes, of course. It's not fun for me if it doesn't seem fun for the animal
For you does that link back to the trust thing?

>that's interesting even though I can't claim to understand it fully.
I wouldn't expect you to. I'd assume you feel that way about people, not animals. It's all just how our brains attach to other being, that's all. Mine's just upside-down and retarded.
>Yeah the stigma would be the most difficult part.
It is. I'm kind of afraid of drinking, I can be a bit of a bean-spiller. I've only told 2 people and they surprisingly didn't seem to care much about it at all. One of them was actually really nice about it and trusted me to walk/babysit/hang out with his dog frequently as long as I promised not to try and have sex with him, which is a promise I made and kept. But still, looking back, telling anyone at all was an incredibly stupid thing to do and I'm just lucky. Last thing I want is to be known around town as "that weird guy who fucks dogs." I'm already "that weird guy who almost never leaves his apartment."
>But it seems like because you don't get romantically interesting in women in the first place that it's not a big problem for you.
Yeah, it's not much of a problem for me. I could go either way; I don't have an aversion to romantic relationships with people nor do I have a desire for them, I just haven't really felt a pulling need to get into one.
>For you does that link back to the trust thing?
That's interesting, I've never really thought of it. I don't really know. I'd have to think about it.

>I wouldn't expect you to. I'd assume you feel that way about people, not animals.
I meant more the way that their trusting behavior is what you find sexy, that part I don't quite grasp and sounds very specific to me.
Thanks for answering my questions OP. It always helps to understand a way of being from someone's perspective.

>I meant more the way that their trusting behavior is what you find sexy, that part I don't quite grasp and sounds very specific to me.
Well, it's not just their trusting behavior in you, it's the mutual trading of trust. I feel like I can be a lot more natural and unedited around a dog, like I don't have to put on a show or engage in social norms or think too much about how I'm coming across. Is that making any sense? I only feel like I can actually be myself around animals, but with people I have to present a sort of mask that alters the way they perceive me, even a little. I guess it's hard to explain.
>Thanks for answering my questions OP. It always helps to understand a way of being from someone's perspective.
No problem, it's a pleasure. I should probably disclose that I'm just one person and my thoughts/feelings aren't necessarily indicative of most zoophiles' in general, though. Still, it's nice to have people be interested.

Do you have a preference for breeds?

I find larger dogs particularly attractive. Golden retrievers, labradors, pitbulls, danes, st bernards, newfies, boxers, etc. Not really into chihuahuas and pugs, they almost feel like a separate animal to me. Like dog-adjacent animals.

What have you read on the topic of animal ethics?

I haven't. What do you suggest?

A furry saying he isn't into fucking animals is like the guys who have 12TB of Loli porn saying they aren't into kids. Everyone knows they're both full of shit.

Animal Ethics:The Basics by Tony Miligan is a good start. Stays away from meta-ethics and presents an overview of most analytical theories.

Thanks, I'll check it out.

Would you ever do anything with a puppy or foal? Younger animals I mean

No. Not attracted to them and there's really no way to go about doing it in a way that's safe and enjoyable for the animal, so...no.

>furries are tired of being branded as dogfuckers so they protest as loud as possible whenever possible to distance themselves
This. I feel like most furs wouldnt even care if not for the optics question.
>A furry saying he isn't into fucking animals
I find it funny how people see something half animal half human and can only imagine that a person likes it because of the animal half, while completely ignoring the critical human half. If someone likes humans and anthros, they're obviously into the human characteristics.
>the guys who have 12TB of Loli porn saying they aren't into kids
Well both are possible. Some people like some things and not others

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Why are you so insecure?

What do you mean?

how do you reconcile with the lack of confidence in an animal's capacity to consent in the way humans can? is it based on whether the animal is manifestly distressed? have you looked into whether distress can be possible during sex without being visible?

i have no ill will towards zoo, i just don't really know where to stand on it.

>how do you reconcile with the lack of confidence in an animal's capacity to consent in the way humans can?
I feel as though animals communicate through really obvious gestures and that makes it easy to understand what they want despite the fact that they can't use the English language to communicate it. We as people are smart enough to decipher an animals' intentions based on their actions; that's kind of how we live with pets on a daily basis. It's not like they're speaking an enigmatic, uncrackable language only they can understand.
A horny dog will try to hump you.
> is it based on whether the animal is manifestly distressed?
No, it's based on whether or not the animal initiates sexual interaction unprompted. I don't think responsive behavior is indicative of consent, so it seems kind of sketchy for a human to initiate and take a lack of stressed behavior as willing consent.
>have you looked into whether distress can be possible during sex without being visible?
I haven't, I don't do a lot of deep research on this type of stuff.

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>I feel as though animals communicate through really obvious gestures and that makes it easy to understand what they want despite the fact that they can't use the English language to communicate it
I feel like this amounts to a pivot though. Of course we can parse some degree of an animal's communication to us, but how do we know that there's no ambiguity in what we see?

>We as people are smart enough to decipher an animals' intentions based on their actions; that's kind of how we live with pets on a daily basis.
Except we only improvise with what we think animals communicate. We can't know what specifically the animal is "saying" and it might be that animals don't even have the same conception of language which humans do, at least not enough to meaningfully communicate with humans.

>No, it's based on whether or not the animal initiates sexual interaction unprompted.
I'll have to ask what is meant by this, because it's possible to train animals to respond to given cues with sexual interaction even if they don't "enjoy" it per se.

>I don't think responsive behavior is indicative of consent, so it seems kind of sketchy for a human to initiate and take a lack of stressed behavior as willing consent.
Oh hey, you actually partially addressed the one concern I had. If we just specifically train an animal to react sexually to something, then yeah it is prompted.

I guess my only follow-up would be: What constitutes unprompted sexual initiation for an animal, and would you consider actions on the part of a human which might entice an animal to have sex to be initiation on the part of the human? On the latter, I'd really like to hear your explanation.

>I haven't, I don't do a lot of deep research on this type of stuff.
I've been meaning to see what research is out there, this kind of shit really fascinates me in terms of what claims we can and cannot make, and on what basis to make the claims.

I accept this, and I think OP really has the most principled position you can about when zoo is not ethical, e.g. coerced. The animal has to be wholly unprompted, e.g. not trained to engage sexually whatsoever, in order for the interaction to not involve coercion.

I still have to look into whether there's indications of any psychological harm in studies about bestiality, but it feels nice that there's some level of credence to my uncertainty.

Can you explain what makes coercion wrong? Not sexual coercion specifically, but any coercion at all.

>Of course we can parse some degree of an animal's communication to us, but how do we know that there's no ambiguity in what we see?
We know for sure what certain things mean; we know for example growling and bearing teeth means the animal isn't happy and it's probably best to either stop doing whatever it is you're doing that's agitating it, or leave it alone. I think that attempts to mate are especially unambiguous because it's such a clear and deliberate action.
>What constitutes unprompted sexual initiation for an animal,
I guess that would be deliberate attempts to mate with a person the way the animal would mate with another of its own kind? I don't know. I'm not an expert with this type of stuff.
>and would you consider actions on the part of a human which might entice an animal to have sex to be initiation on the part of the human?
I think it boils down to the intention of the human. Deliberately making an attempt to arouse the animal to get it to comply counts as initiation on the human's end in my view, but if the human happens to be, say, doing nothing out of the ordinary and the animal expresses a willingness to engage with the human sexually by trying to do so, and the human accepts, it seems more like initiation from the animal.

>Can you explain what makes coercion wrong?
The possibility of inflicting psychological harm onto the animal by overriding what it wants in favor of what you, the human and party with more power, want. Eliminating coercion to the farthest possible extent is minimizing the odds of damaging the animal by forcing it, coercively, to engage in sexual practices it wouldn't normally otherwise engage in. It's important to specify the context of coercion, though, because it seems unlikely that coercing a dog to sit or play fetch would be as damaging as coercing it to have sex with you.

oh my god that dog is adorable

what is your favorite breed?

Mine is the bernese mountain dog, they are amazing in every way except for an unfortunately high risk of cancer and shorter than average lifespan

No dog ever lives long enough though :(

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Good answer. You pass the test. You will run into problems when people disagree with such a welfarist focused position though.

>oh my god that dog is adorable
Right? So white and fluffy.
>what is your favorite breed?
Overall? That's tough. I'd have to say...maybe a labrador? It's tough to choose, though.
>Mine is the bernese mountain dog, they are amazing in every way except for an unfortunately high risk of cancer and shorter than average lifespan
>No dog ever lives long enough though :(
Agreed, I wish dogs could live as long as cockatoos.

There are so many great dog breeds out there I wish I could own a whole pack of dogs of all kinds and sizes, but working a full time job makes it hard enough just to take proper care of the one I have

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Oh, good! I wasn't aware that I was being tested. I don't do a lot of philosophical studying or reading related to animal ethics so I was just kinda winging it.

>I feel like most furs wouldnt even care if not for the optics question.
This is true of literally every fetish. If there weren't people out there screaming about how disgusting and immoral we all are, nobody would hide anything.

>If there weren't people out there screaming about how disgusting and immoral we all are, nobody would hide anything.
even if furries are "against" zoophilia they end up being called zoophlies anyway.

it's a lose-lose really.

>it's a lose-lose really.
True, and it always looks bad when there's drama in the community. It'd be better if people just didnt talk about it. Found out somefur is a zoo? Just stay quiet, normies wont even care unless you stir up shit.

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Why do asian zoo videos always have a black dog, and a white dog? Is it a buddhist or shinto thing?

>Just stay quiet, normies wont even care unless you stir up shit.
and then we get the burned furs, and then furry raiders, and then alt-furs and xanadu and all the shitty reactionary movements that grow within furry because "just concerned about this lol" people start to lose their shit.

>and then furry raiders, and then alt-furs and xanadu
As opposed to the norm? We get fags like that all the time. If someone says all furries are animalfuckers just say "lmaoing at your life"

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I would recommend not associating with furries in general, there are way more insane sociopaths in that community than there are fellow dogfuckers

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>I would recommend not associating with furries in general, there are way more insane sociopaths in that community than there are fellow dogfuckers
furry can be a good space, but you just have to know how to navigate past the shitty people. there are some chill folks.

why is it appealing to have sex with someone who cums after 10-30seconds? how is it gratifying

If youre a zoo whos not really interested in anthros, it's probably best to just not. Nobody likes the guy who comes into a furry thread and just starts talking about fucking dogs. Many furs find bestiality distasteful.

>If youre a zoo whos not really interested in anthros, it's probably best to just not.
no shit lol

It just is. There doesn't need to be a logical reason for it.

dude, same. The closer to wolf the better as far as I'm concerned. Smaller dogs were intentionally bred to be that way and it's the equivalent of the uncanny valley effect for me.

Ever afraid of diseases?

a dog that is good at sex will stay inside you and keep throbbing and squirting for 10-15 minutes easily if you let him

those 10-30 seconds is just the initial furious penetration, he's not done just because he stops humping

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Everyone's afraid of diseases, look at the mass panic over the coronavirus.

you're a lot more likely to catch a zoonotic disease by eating meat or drinking milk than fucking an animal

Why don’t you have any pets?

I'm just not in a situation where I can care for a pet right now.

Male on female zoofag here

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ever fully fucked dog like in pic related?

yes, a beautiful austrailian shepard
knocked her up real good

sound wonderful. Did the dog go with it or did she resist?

Got any pics?

What about animals do you find attractive?

With females, she must always start the sexual act and you must pay attention to her. If she shows discomfort or she doesn't want to, you have to stop. You're her protector and she's supposed to trust you so ruining that trust will make her want to escape from your house or become aggresive

none, I didn't want anyone I know to find out but my parents caught me anyways

Are you a Furry too? Does it has a direct link to it? If the answare is yes, what is your fursona.

>12 TB of loli and no attraction to real kids.

While I'm not quite that far gone, I'm a mountain man that is into size difference stuff and loli satisfies that. I find actual young girls and children in general wildly unattractive and more often than not, disgusting. There is a difference between masturbating to the sterility of a drawn image and masturbating to the grit of real life.

>There is a difference between masturbating to the sterility of a drawn image and masturbating to the grit of real life
Yeah, Ive talked to people who were into loli, but not real kids, and people who were into real kids, but not loli. There's definitely overlap, but one doesnt automatically mean the other. Id imagine it's the same with zoos and furries.