Have you taken the imaginary sex pill yet? Post experiences / favourite girls / questions / whatever the fuck else.
>The fuck is this shit? It's just what it sounds like it's having sex in your head. You can use it to get off, you can use it to diminish the power women hold over you, you can use it to relax, you can use it to explore your degeneracy, you can use it to get something a bit emotionally more involved than fapping, if your wife has grown cold as a block of concrete, and you feel like you're stuck in a loveless, sexless marriage with 3 kids to take care of, and no prospects of ever improving your situation.
>This probably sucks dick I find it to be much more enjoyable than real sex. Not only can you go with any partner you want, but the sensations are always a lot stronger in general. It does take a bit of work to get there, it's not a quick fix.
>Literally how? If you're new, just start by meditating. Sit down comfortably and shut up, and imagine yourself in your head, and try to feel yourself and shit until you've got a good grasp of your imaginary body. From there, you just imagine a girl you enjoy and go to work. It will probably take you a month or so of practice until you can get to the sex proper. And don't fap while you're doing this! At first it may get frustrating because you can't really orgasm, but if you do need to get yourself off in the ol way just do it after. Over time you'll figure orgasms out and wont need that anymore. Just have fun with it, and remember to not stress too much about it, if you stick with it you'll get it sooner or later.
Reminder that there's more to life than sex, and you should go outside, lift, and do something creative once in a while. Be healthy, user!
I can't visualize, or imagine anything any sensory.
So imaginary sex is not going to happen.
Zachary Rivera
I couldn't either, to be honest, that's probably why it took me so long to get it going to a point where I could actually feel pleasure from it. It really is a matter of practicing, though, I know it might sound nearly impossible, but it isn't. It's something that was actually pretty fun to train up for me as well. I just focused on one sense at a time at first, and went from there. The important thing is not to be a tryhard about it and relax, because the subconscious ends up taking a lot of the burden when you get used to it.
I can't imagine things except in an intellectual way, so this is not going to be satisfying. It's not as if I haven't tried imagining things before.
Jackson Mitchell
You do you man, but I doubt you actually sat down and put any hours of targeted meditation into this. Shit's a bit different than just "imagining things" casually.
How is this any different from normal imagining of things?
Jayden Watson
It's different from casually imagining things because you're expected to actually be meditating and focused on it while you do it. People don't really do that when they usually imagine things throughout their day.
Maybe I will. Enjoy imagining sucking a dick, incel
Jason Cooper
Why are you being so dishonest? You know very well most people don't do deep meditation whenever they think about fantasies / day dream, so why are you saying this?
Ok, this is just for the ones who can, then. I don't believe in aphantasia either, I think it's an excuse to give up on shit like this. If you can see and have memory, you can have images in your head. If aphantasia was a thing, people with it wouldn't be able to dream. Visualization is just hard bro, everyone sucks at it until they start doing it. Same goes for all the other senses, infact, you could think about what it'd be like to have more than two arms because of the sense of knowing where your limbs are, for instance, stuff like that. Images aren't some super secret thing our brain does that's separate from everything else. At least that's how I see it.
Visualization isn't hard at all, for people who can do it. For people who can't, it's impossible.
People are are strong visualizers, when they read a novel, will see a movie in their head of everything that's happening in the story. Does this happen when you read? Do you see images when you read a story with visual description?
Angel Thomas
Yep, but I didn't before I began reading. Nowadays its strong to the point where I can just have the whole thing play out in my head and feel things and stuff. I still remember reading moby dick, and reading the descriptions of the warm afternoons up on the crow's nest, it was really something. It goes beyond just seeing, and it feels so much better than watching a movie. I feel like movies inhibit that a lot.
>Visualization isn't hard at all, for people who can do it. Yes it is, for some people it is because they just never did it a lot, as was the case with me. It's just something people don't do much anymore, so they suck.
I don't doubt the senses can be trained, but the time required to train ones mental visualization skills using deep meditation while also having aphantasia would take far too long, and that's assuming it's even possible to train in the first place. The average person can't spend a couple of hours a day trying to mentally visualize when they have school, work, family/friends etc... Mental visualization is not the same as dreaming, they function differently.
Brandon Adams
user your autism has reached astronomical levels, please go see a hooker ASAP
Brandon Flores
The problem with improving your visual abilities when you have aphantasia is that you have nothing to start with.
If you have weak visualization abilities, you can focus on them and improve them. If you see nothing at all, there's nowhere to start.
Levi Morris
>a couple of hours a day Jesus, I'm talking like 1 hour a day tops, maybe skip a few days, not a couple of hours! And yes, people do have plenty of time to meditate, don't give me that shit, netflix can wait.
Are you implying I'm a virgin? Cause I'm not, sorry. I also have a pretty balanced social life, so I'm probably not autist either, but hey, it's alright, you'll get'em next time, champ!
Ok, this is for people without aphantasia then, there you go. Why are you so caught up on aphantasia anyway, do you have it?
Yes, I'm the person who said earlier in the thread that I can't visualize things.
But there are other people in this thread also talking about aphantasia besides me.
Brayden Stewart
And if you want an answer to that, the usual way people start solving the problem of not having anything to start with, is by starting with memory. Just simple shit like looking into a candle flame for a couple seconds, then closing your eyes and trying to remember it. Again, I'm pretty sure that remembering sounds, remembering pictures, remembering touch, remembering taste, and so on, are all the same thing to an extent. I don't think there's anything inherently special about vision that makes aphantasia possible.
But I'm not a doctor, and I could very well be wrong. Either way, the point of this thread is not aphantasia, so if you really think you can't do this, I don't know what to tell you. It's clear you're just going to dismiss every suggestion I give you because you can't see anything in the first place.
When I look at something, and then close my eyes, the thing is gone, there is no image of it I can bring to mind. I just tried this multiple times, it doesn't do anything.
I also can't imagine sounds, taste, touch, smell, nor can I remember anything sensory either.
This is off the topic you wanted to cover in this thread, of course.
Jaxon Roberts
Even a half-hour a day is a long time to have your eyes closed seeing nothing and making no improvements. See Aphantasiacs have no starting place. They can't visualize color, letters, faces or anything else. If you have at least a little bit of visual skills, you can improve them, but for some, that's not the case.
Lincoln Garcia
>www.winwenger.com/imstream.htm Yeah, I've read that and tried some of them, but all of this really only works on someone who already has some visualization ability.
It's meant to get at people who have extremely weak visualization ability, to the point where maybe they can only imagine some blobs or lines or colors or something, and get them to pay attention to it. If there's nothing there, though, none of those techniques do anything.
All of them basically amount to "pay attention to your mind and see if some images appear", but if they never do then the techniques have nothing for you.
Angel Butler
Half an hour a day of seemingly no progress is natural for any skill you try to build up, you just have to be patient, that's all there is to it. It's just like drawing. But again, if you really think you can't do it, then I've nothing more to say, I'm sorry.
I'm not saying it's impossible, but it is very time consuming and takes a lot of effort for an aphantasiac to even find a starting place. Don't assume people haven't even tried because we aren't all built the same way.
Cameron Hernandez
I think people in general are just too fast at deciding they can't do something / that something just "isn't for them," when in reality, it's just that they can't put in the hours and work required to get where they want to be. And the thing is, most people get really defensive about it as well, like they are afraid of even considering that they might really have a chance after all, and that they perhaps could achieve it if they put in the effort. I saw this a lot whenever I was involved with lucid dreaming communities, it was incredible the amount of people who came in just to argue that nothing worked for them, and when people told them that there was actually very little to it other than putting in the effort, they just dismissed it as the thing just being out of their reach when we all know full well these people maybe tried 3-4 weeks before just deciding the methods don't work.
And I don't doubt anyone has tried, I doubt the effort they put into it. Trying is not enough, you have to actually stick with it if you want results, same as everything else. If it's worth it, then it'll cost you, that's just how life is.
True. Without results, people are usually quick to give up on stuff. So how long was you're journey? Where was your starting place?
Levi Reyes
Probably began with lucid dreaming, actually! I began working on that, and got quite far, but I was getting frustrated because it was hard to be myself in the dreams, so I began just entertaining the idea of "what if dreams, but I'm awake?" Drawing was also a big push to become better at visualization, but the whole senses thing came from that desire of having dreams while awake. At first I didn't really use it for sex, though, I just wanted to see how far I could go with it, this was at about the time I began practicing mindfulness as well, so that really helped. I didn't start practicing it in a really focused way from the get go, I'd just try to feel an imaginary body and try to make things appear and stuff like that (much like you'd do in dreams), and it was only a bit after that I began making really focused exercises to push things further, such as feeling up cubes with various textures, imagining full chess games and playing them (against myself) in my head, and stuff like that. Once I began doing that, things evolved very quickly, you can feel a big difference after just a month of it. It's definitely something you need to keep practicing though, because I've lost it a few times before whenever I didn't use it that often.
That's pretty advanced! Have you gotten to the point where you can visualize things in the real world? Have dreams become more intense or memorable since?
Cameron Walker
> Have you gotten to the point where you can visualize things in the real world? I've thought about trying to do that, but haven't gotten round to it yet. Induced illusion seems like a really cool thing!
>Have dreams become more intense or memorable since? Lucid dreams are the most intense thing imaginable, they haven't really changed after this, no. I don't lucid dream much anymore, only sometimes on accident.
