How much did they pay this faggot to drop out this early? I'm sorry but this is highly suspect

Isn't it interesting how Pete dropped out but Warren is staying in? You gotta love how that works out.

Warren and Amy did far worse in SC. Why aren't they dropping out?

Surprisingly not fake news, it's on the bbc website.
You could see in South Carolina debates someone had whispered 'Go big, or go home' into his ear. Probably a pep talk while he was biting on a pillow.

He tried going big. Now he's going home.

It's still really suspect. Warren has been absolutely fucking terrible so far and yet she isn't dropping out. Probably because she's splitting the Bernie vote. It's just the timing that's really suspect here.

They offered him a sweet booty gig.

Niggers hate fags. At least they figured that out

> pay a faggot
they threatened to tell everyone about him fucking high school boys

>Implying anyone would be surprised by that

>Now everyone please stand for president Butt Gig
Just couldn't see that passing for 4 years without an audience snickering maniacally every time.
Sounds like he did the right thing to drop out.

$20 says he'll now endorse bloomberg

Biden can't afford an underage twink boy slave

He’s a raging faggot and this Country isn’t going to elect a goddamn queer. Fuck, I’d choose that Massachusetts Ingine before Buttplug and she ain’t winning either.
KAG2020

Because women are never wrong

Lol this nigger's husband is giving a speech right now, looks like he's about to fucking cry

Handsy Biden threatened to touch him up and kiss him while telling rambling stories about having an onion on his belt because it was the style at the time
>Probably a pep talk while he was biting on a pillow.
kek

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Have you ever argued with a woman that was wrong and she just kept arguing in spite of being btfo?

He was never gonna have a shot at the delegates he needed. His voters are the safest bet to side with Biden. DNC wants to carefully unfold a scenario that contains sanders momentum. They are terrified of how they’ll fund elections across the country alienating corporate interests. I totally understand why they’re scared. It’s not that they hate sanders platform. They hate what sanders platform does to their fundraising. I’ve tried running for office. It’s fucking expensive. It’s a valid concern.

Good point lol

That degenerate Pete would probably like that

I can't imagine anyone would want to be touched up by Grandpa Biden. besides, doesn't Pete like twinks?

Then they shouldn't have allowed Bernie to run as a democrat to begin with, because he's not even a fucking democrat. Same with Bloomberg. The DNC wants to play both sides of the coin that's the problem. They string along all these far-left retards and then say vote blue no matter who, it's a fucking joke.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=bnsW03dCPjU

Probably more than they paid Bernie in 2016.

>there's the door, faggot

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I know it's someone for presidential candidate but who the f*** is this guy? Haven't seen one commercial haven't seen any in full about him he was never going to make it. Floridian checking in

Have you fucking been asleep? He won the Iowa cacaus and has been in every debate up to this point. Then again not surprising a dude from fucking Florida is this stupid.

No. It is not suspect at all. He is an emasculated weak little manlet, with absolutely no testosterone left. It is not surprising at all that he got dominated.

Biden or Bloomberg will obviously be the nominee. The VP pick will be Klobuchar or more likely Stacey Abrams. Bernie gets a sincere thank you and a job in the new Presidents cabinet if he wants it.

What the fuck are you even talking about? He is clearly the top in that relationship

who cares,do you honestly think a democrat from an extreme republican state had a chance to begin with

Why is this bitch still running? Or did she drop out quietly? I literally keep forgetting that she exists.

the only reason the dnc didnt completly fuck him over for being from the same state as mike pence is because he sucks cock

the guy never had a chance

>Stacy Abrams
Oh god, I hope the democrats are stupid enough to nominate that fat nigger for VP. The VP debate would be fucking hiliarious.

Yeah because it's never happened before, fucking retard

>calling me a retard

whatever kid,have fun watching your wwf and hee haw tonight,and rooting for a billionare who wipes his ass on a golden toilet.but im sure he can relate to you

this is how deep into the toilet the republican party has gone

>Why is this bitch still running?
Dude, that's the thing. Literally nobody knows lol. She and Warren need to drop the fuck out. All they're doing is wasting people's time and giving them false hope. Not to mention that cunt Tulsi Gabbard is still running for god knows what reason.

if you can even call them republicans anymore.their disrespect towards the constitution tells me they are nothing but left wing piles of shit

if only they were educated

>far-left retards
Literally none of their policies haven't been tried or proposed in the US, and that includes previous generation of republicans.

It's the GOP that's doubling down on everything shitty antisocial idea they've had on the shelf since at least Bush Jr, and now half of wall street doesn't pay income tax and the EPA *helps* corporations defeat pollution lawsuits, on top of our longest government shutdwon in history over a fucking wall to keep brown people out.

So seriously, fuck you, anything the dems do will be called socialist anyway, the status quo is shit in this country.

*tried before

I bet he will be Biden’s vp

Lol so now you have a problem with wrestling? I guess you must not watch any tv shows or movies since it's all fake bullshit. Or are you a fucking hypocrite?

For what fucking reason do you retards want more taxes? Be specific. You bitch night and day about the fucking government but you want to give them more money. Shit makes no sense.

I'm totally fine with treating gays like normal people, but what the fuck was this queer thinking? That being some faggot mayor from a 3rd rate city in a flyover state qualified him to run for president.

He was 100% running on "look at me I'm gay, and if you don't think I could be president you're a homophobe."

I'd vote for a gay president, if he was actually qualified to be president first, and gay second, and not just up there kissing his fag husband on stage and pretending to be a hero.

We'll know who paid him once he starts endrosing one of them

>Be specific
Expansion and implementation of social programs that literally every other developed country has incorporated, like universal healthcare, public works projects, the right to good education, high speed internet, etc etc.

What you retards never understand is that paying a bit more in taxes will save you money because of the absence of previous costs you're burdened with.

They don’t have a shot at winning without appeasing us far left retards. I think centrist Brits and aussies and Canadians would agree that there is nothing radical about single payer healthcare though

i have a problem with the people who watch wrestling.i bet your a trailer park redneck who voted for donald trump,because there's nobody who can relate to the poor and middle class better then a billionare who shits in a golden toilet,am i right?

You’re not helping progressive movement when you talk like this. You poorly represent us. Stop.

>dude politics lmao
>trump bad
>blue team good

Exactly, you just want more fucking handouts. How about you get a fucking job and pay for all that shit yourself, like literally everyone else did before you? Or do you wanna be like those niggers living in public housing, collecting welfare and blaming all their problems on the "system"? The same one they refuse to fucking get off. It's fucking ridiculous how many of you fags want a fucking nanny state, where big brother holds your hand and does everything for you.

Then you're a fucking idiot. The democrats don't care about fags like you. They only pander to you for votes. Just like they do with niggers and spics.

Yeah, the redneck meme is missing the mark. They don't vote nearly as often as psycho suburban small business owners that have never seen an illegal immigrant in their life.

Legal weed good. Women’s rights good. Universal healthcare good. Don’t worry. Mexico’s gonna pay for it.

At least he’s not a faggot who encourages abortion and sexualizing children

I know dems dont care about me. Neither do republicans. I only vote dem when there’s no green candidate. I want a democratic socialist takeover of the dems. I want the Democratic Party to be more like Sinn Féin

Legal weed is actually pretty good aside from a 30%motherfucking%fuckyou tax among a few other reasons of the distribution supply in the current market

>pay for all that shit yourself, like literally everyone else did before you?
Because that's the least efficient system. Telling people to pay or die results in bad debt that is a burden on the economy, which your taxes are currently paying for.
It's a net benefit for all, including you, unless you're that much of shithead whose pride is hurt from not going bankrupt over medical expensive.
Nothing about this is a "nanny state", it's making government work for you, the same way you rely on them for your electricity, your mail, or protecting your property.

My dad was an illegal immigrant. He wasn’t brown though. He was from Ireland. I blow their mind when I tell them that. I do house repairs. I know Republican voters better than Republican politicians do

Mexico is gonna pay for it. Don’t worry about it

I wish a bunch of Mexicans would pay for me weed user, but I am not worried about it honestly.

>progressive

there is nothing progressive about white trailer parks and people who abuse meth and opiods all day but think they are somehow better then democrats

Convince them socialists are on their children’s futures side. Cuz it’s fucking true. This is an electoral system not a shit flinging contest. Don’t act like an ape.

>I blow their mind when I tell them that.
Twice as many illegal immigrants come from Canada on overstayed visas than mexicans.

I just want a system that lets me get a license to grow my own and swap crops with other home growers. Bernie wants to prevent a corporate takeover on legal weed sales. Wants to empower minorities on entrepreneurship of legal weed. They got the worse end of the stick on the drug war. I think it’s a good idea.

We don't want to be like europoors. Those programs aren't ineffective and wasteful. Every government program the USA creates is always a corrupt, bloated, wasteful enterprise and you want to increase the scope of it. What you might not be aware of is that a good percentage of democrats only like expanding the scope of govt. because they can use taxes as a punitive measure against rich people. They've outright admitted that they don't care how or where the money is spent, just that rich people cannot and should not exist.

Extreme wealth disparity creates unjust social systems. That’s how serfdom happens. Far left democrats who feel that way aren’t entirely wrong.

Then go start your own fucking party you fag. Not that I care because voting democrat in general is for cucks.

Having government take over the entire healthcare system is the literal definition of nanny state. The fuck are you talking about? People like you want the government to literally wipe your ass for you. Keep in mind Bernie also wants open borders and free healthcare for illegals. How the fuck is that fair to people who pay taxes and follow the law? Of course the democrats don't give a fuck about those people. They just view the middle class as a fucking cash cow, demanding more and more taxes but NEVER cutting programs or spending in general. California is the perfect example of democrat policies on a runaway train. More and more taxes just so it can be spent on fucking bullshit, like giving the "homeless" free fucking needles and a place where they can do their fucking drugs. As if it can't get anymore fucking ridiculous.

I think the government shouldn't have any say on who buys or sells weed. Bernie is a dinosaur with antiquated ideas

Have you ever had a serious with your standard church based Donald supporter? It's really hard not to call them retards, the things Trump says that the average person knows he's just BS'ing, they believe fervently and with no hesitation or actual thought, common sense doesn't even come into play, trump-tards is an accurate description. Kudos for Fox and the local churches in getting these people voting, they really shouldn't be, it's impressive. I don't think it will change until they start dying in a war caused by our general idiocy.

Not that they’re entirely right either. Taxing the fuck out of the wealthiest is an important part of keeping an economy burning bright. Its important to not deconstruct the system that creates that pipeline of wealth and revenue though. That’s where the leftists go wrong.

>Twice as many illegal immigrants come from Canada on overstayed visas than mexicans.
Oh really? Then why are sanctuary cities overwhelmingly filled with niggers and spics? But let me guess we're suppose to just play stupid right?

You do understand that illegals aren’t paying for healthcare already right?

I think your ideas sound more antiquated honesty

Call them retards. That’ll teach them...

Because urban areas usually have a lot of blacks and Latinos?

Nah dawg you need to chill with your whole government love thing. It'll get you hurt

Why don’t working class people in Europe, Israel, and Australia and Canada want their universal healthcare system privatized? Not even conservatives are running elections advocating privatization. How come?

>Those programs aren't ineffective and wasteful.
The #1 cause of bankruptcy in the country is medical care. People get sick more often or underuse their insurance, which results in less worker productivity and debt to the medical system which they never see returns on.
>m-muh government bad
Businesses fuck up all the time. The alternative you're offering is subidizing the insurance industry where you pay a middle man to determined whether you're covered on certain conditions, and if they decide now, welcome to years of litigation and court as your body rots away.
>as a punitive measure against rich people
I mean, vindictive part of it will resonante with some, but for 40 years you cultists have promised the free market will provide with each increase of wealth. It hasn't. Our roads are shit, people are dying in the streets, our wages have been stagnate, whereas you're trying to victimize the same corporate bastards that lobby for that kind of legislation which fucks people like you or me up the ass on a daily basis.

Imagine being such a miserable asshole that you'll tell the average american to go fuck themselves as the corporations pollute your drinking water, fire you and 2000 others while giving their CEOs a .$10 million bonus, and bully small business owners out of the market.

These countries have lots of conservatives. Educated and good ones who own the majority often. How come they don’t want to privatize their systems?

While things are going relatively well, there will be no learning from that group, for them it's a matter of faith.

Your first mistake was thinking that I care about healthcare in any of the countries that you mentioned. Your second mistake was thinking that I care about anyone who doesn't have healthcare in my own country. I have a job user, I have healthcare I am not buggered by such an issue. For all those people who can't afford healthcare? I suggest cannabis.

Then where do all those canadians live, if not in sanctuary cities? Do explain that, you fucking moron. But I know, any excuse in the fucking book you can come up with to protect your pet spics.

This. Anyone who would vote for a fag to be President is a retard.

In more affluent areas. Where cops don’t act like fascist niggers

What happens if you lose your job?

May you never lose your job through no fault of your own, get sick, and die a horrible death.

Wait, that's exactly what I wish on you unempathetic faggots.

Hope you get rekt, user.

A fag, a kike, and a whore walk into a bar... the.. bartender asks "inauguration for ONE?!"

You literally deserve to have your ass beat for that.

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I guess I would have to worry about that? Why do you care?
Now that's edgy

Almost as edgy as not giving a fuck about your fellow citizens because you got yours.

>Until you don't.

All semen who could swallow

When you get older and have something to lose/people to protect you might understand. But until then keep your chin up

The party paid him handsomely to step down. They're doing the same thing to this ass goblin that they did to Bernie in 2016. He's too much of a threat, and Bernfag is gonna need to gather all of the momentum he can in order to have any sort of shot against Trump, which already doesn't.

i found the door knob of that door.

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>it's on the bbc website.

and later on, he'll be on a BBC website...

Social safety nets benefit everyone user.

But you seem like one of those faggot cuckservatives that only gives a damn about issues when it affects someone they personally know and care about. Like the governors who suddenly 'get' homo rights when they find out their son is a faggot.

Probably because your brain is literally too undeveloped to empathize with others, because that means being smart enough to imagine being in someone else's shoes.

Funniest shit was when Bernie accused Minnie Mike of trying to buy the election, meanwhile this old Jew is promising voters free healthcare and a bunch of other gifted shit.

The Left are so fuckin' cute, man.

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Pete Buttisbig

Did you see his debate performance? He donated his pride and dignity that night a couple weeks ago.

Donald Trump walks into a bar.
Bartender: Hm must be Free Beer for Criminals Day

You are arguing against someone who has a sociology degree and pays taxes. I know what social nets are and I pay into them much more than you do. Kindly find your biggest baddragon toy and go away from me.

But WHY won't they run younger candidates?
Oh wait. They all dropped out before Super Tuesday.

THAT'S what you find suspect?? Not the fact he had 0 support and nearly won Iowa through open electoral fraud? The only thing odd about him dropping out is that it looked like every single dem candidate was hellbent on denying Sanders as many votes as possible before inevitably losing themselves like the butthurt little faggots they all are.

protip: if you're pro-trump and posting shit like this you will be seen as a LARPer
try to up your game and actually work to convince your opponent k?

Pete Buttigeig and his husband walk into a bar, but there is only one seat left
The bartender flips the bar stool over, so that they can both sit comfortably.

So he's promising to fix America's problems as president and make people's lives better. How dare he. How are trump's promises coming along, btw?

ONE TERM
NO WALL
NO REFUNDS

>safety nets protect everyone
Not one bit true. Whether you like it or not there will always be a group of subhuman trash that will always need and will never contribute.

Then you have people who actually give a fuck about themselves and make sure that they are not a burden on society.

I like my fellow citizen, but each person is responsible for their lives. We as people are not at all obligated to open our wallets to make sure you have a safety net. You have to create your own with your own two hands. People like you will never be respected amongst true Americans. I would have no problem stomping your pathetic life out if I had the chance to meet you. You are not a fellow citizen. You are a parasite that needs to be eradicated

Nice assumption on my means user.

I'm an engineer, so I dare say I pay more into taxes than you do with your soft science degree.

If you know jack shit about the state of social safety nets you know that 1. They're being purposely underfunded by the Right so that they can claim they don't work when they have poor outcomes and privatize them for their donors to make a mint, and 2. The current patchwork of systems is incredibly inefficient and benefits the middlemen rather than improving outcomes.

Again, you're clearly unable to think outside of what affects your personal well-being nor consider a future where you may be down on your luck through no fault of your own and need to rely on those safety nets. Because you have a small mind. Because all you could get is a sociology degree.

Trump has plenty of excuses believe me

happens with trump cultists all the time actually. man or woman.

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Amy's hateboner for Pete prevented her from dropping out before him, I expect it any day now

Cheaper to pay to keep them fed and watered than it is to build a police state and private prison system to house them all, which appears to be the current approach.

Bread and circuses, anons. Bread and circuses.

We literally are in an age when mere menial labour is becoming obsolete. There's no need to keep an underclass of desperate workers anymore. Get with the times.

making the govt. work for me... are you kidding me? The govt. is so ineffective I want less of it, not more. Say NO to DMV healthcare.

>one term
Will be two terms
>no wall
It’s being worked on as more land has been recently flattened out for further progress
>no refunds
No refund needed. Get fucked!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

cute

Wealth inequality does not affect me. You must think the economy is a zero sum game...

You must be ignoring historical precedent that when wealth inequality hits a certain threshold and minimum standards of living for the masses aren't met, the pitchforks and torches come out.

>Because the private sector never fucks things up, amirite?

Say yes to Enron healthcare?

That isn't very funny or imaginative. You don't really understand comedy rule of three.

The mystery has been solved.

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The #1 cause of bankruptcy is people being horrible with money. When a patient chooses to get healthcare without getting their insurance company involved, that's on them. Single payer would only ban people from using a healthcare provider that does not accept govt. insurance. I don't know about you but I don't want the govt. dictating whom I pay money for healthcare. Now patients that get balanced billed from healthcare providers despite using their insurance, that problem is supposed to have been addressed by now but I'm not sure. If that problem hasn't been addressed correctly, it absolutely should be.

>people are dying in the streets
you mean the drug addicts and homeless people who choose that lifestyle? Think I care? Because I don't!

CEOs getting multimillion dollar bonuses is the fault of shareholders. Maybe they deserve the bonuses, maybe they don't. Either way, rich people being rich doesn't have any affect on how poor people are.

I prefer businesses fucking up and closing shop than govt. doing that and not being held accountable for it. When the govt. fucks up, they just ask for more money like a junkie. The worst part about the govt. is how I can't force them to go away like I can an improperly run business.

Having huge wealth inequality has zero effect on my life or anybody else's life. If you think wealth inequality matters, then you're probably a bernie idiot who thinks the economy is a zero sum game.

>k?
Why should I convince you of anything? Why am I your opponent now?
>I'm an engineer
And I work in accounting. So I probably know more about money than you do kek in fact the basis of sociology degree is using the imagination to put one in another's shoes. It's not that I don't understand your plight, it's that I don't care user

cite precedent. What thresholds? What minimum standards? Quality of life for people in poverty in the USA today is higher than it was 100 years ago for the top 15% of the population. I just see mostly sour grapes and whining. America has made a generation of entitled babies that have never seen real hardship.

just stop. you are embarrassing yourself.

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And just before super Tuesday. How convenient

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With militarization of the police during George W. and Trumps green light for private prisons, how could you believe we aren’t building up to a police state? Private prisons still exist and are profiting and all cops rolling ARs in their cruisers, I would say we will all be in pens amongst the less desirable.

>in a age where menial labour is becoming obsolete
Ya, and one massive solar flare could bring that crashing down. Cheers to the future!

So you think there's no connection between who holds the wealth and what the economy is driven to produce?

You believe in the fallacy of unlimited resources and growth?

There's no economies of scale or leveraging bargaining power that's gained through a single-payer system? The US doesn't pay more per capita for worse outcomes per capita?

You probably also believe that GDP is a meaningful measure of wealth and that there's true social mobility based on merit.

Do you understand why healthcare represents a market failure? Asymmetry of information, an inability to truly negotiate or shop around because you're under duress? Did you actually take economics past micro 101?

we should raise greyhound bus fare and send chrischan in lingerie to butt guy with a note that says "at least you tried".

I truly and sincerely hope that you die getting shanked to death by a hobo over some pocket change.

You work in accounting with a sociology degree... so you went to finishing school for the rich and got a job at daddy's company? Or you're LARPing as someone said earlier.

What plight? I'm a net contributor as I stated before. I pay plenty in taxes. I don't like seeing it wasted on a bunch of cronies of the Right instead of being efficiently used for the purposes it's intended for through a centralized program that provides for my fellow citizens and secures my own person against future potential hardships.

>You believe in the fallacy of unlimited resources and growth?
Well at this time we have not reached that point. Right now most of the wealth generation isn't in raw materials but in information and more efficient utilization of it.

There's no economies of scale or leveraging bargaining power that's gained through a single-payer system? The US doesn't pay more per capita for worse outcomes per capita?
We have worse outcomes for a variety of factors that have zilch to do with how healthcare is negotiated and paid for. I'm not interested in expanding the scope of govt. and becoming subservient to it. I do not want to pay into and or be a hostage to the govt. You claim I'm a hostage to the private sector but I'm not because I can choose not to pay those premiums.

>You probably also believe that GDP is a meaningful measure of wealth and that there's true social mobility based on merit.>
I guess having a GDP doesn't matter because you say so. If American sucks so bad, why can't people like you just move to a country you consider better? I like 'merica because money is our god and we're individualists. I don't care to take care of sponges such as yourself and I don't want the govt. telling me how to live. Single payer health systems save money by rationing care. They also pay their doctors half as much if not even less than they do here.

I'm not saying USA is perfect. I know the healthcare system needs major fixes and improvements but switching to single payer is not the way to achieve it.

I actually was hoping I could give them enough money to overdose but whatever...

>The only thing odd about him dropping out is that it looked like every single dem candidate was hellbent on denying Sanders as many votes as possible
They still are doing that. Why do you think Warren is still in the race?

buahahah >efficiently utilized

Our taxes are quite high already and we're deficit spending as it is. Your solution is to expand our already inefficient and bloated govt. even further? No thanks! idiot!

dubs and hes Bernie's VP

Klobuchar needs to take a leaf out of Pete’s book and get the fuck out the way. If the party is that desperate for Bernie not to win they need Biden getting as many delegates as he can.
And nice trips.

damn.

You mean a front for a terrorist group?

So you are just arguing for the sake of it or because you are a virtue signaling redditor? Also nice assumptions about my means user you know me so well. No larp and none of what you said was accurate, sorry you are an engineer cuck and bust your ass just to argue on Yea Forums with people who make more money than you and don't care about your problems.

Anyone who cares more about where someone else sticks their dick than the positive change they could bring is a retard.

Plot twist: I'm happily Canadian and enjoy my social safety net and programs and think you Ameritards are complete selfish idiots who don't realize your social fabric is degrading and are likely to reap the consequences, which will unfortunately spill over into my own country.

GDP is a completely asinine measure. Two people could sell the same product back and forth a million times and artificially drive it up.

Yes, you can choose not to pay those premiums. You have the freedom to starve yourself, too. Doesn't make it a very smart decision.

Most of wealth generation is completely artificial and the bubble will pop, just as it did during the dot com bubble. Just because people are enjoying fancy gadgets doesn't mean there is more essentials - food, clothing, shelter. Those are all being challenged by an increasing population coupled with decreasing purchasing power by the majority, meaning the economy is focusing on baubles for the rich rather than putting people to work in industries that actually directly sustain human life.

>I know the healthcare system needs major fixes and improvements but switching to single payer is not the way to achieve it.

Like the old quote about capitalism, 'single payer isn't perfect, it's just better than all the alternatives'.

But enjoy paying more for prescriptions and healthcare so your doctors can afford their third yacht.

I don't disagree but come on, Pete is not bringing any change to anything. He's literally run of the mill, same old democrat. He's basically a white, gay version of Obama. Same shit, different flavor.

The deficit is an artificial construct created by a private financial sector to keep the government beholden to it.

You can also slash your military spending and foreign interventionism by 2/3's and still be secure in your own borders. Then focus on actually rebuilding your domestic manufacturing so you're not beholden to the third-world (in exchange for propping up the current spate of oligarchs).

But that'd be, y'know, nation-building as opposed to crony capitalism and globalism...

Because the women still think they've got something to prove. Gabbard, Klobuchar, and Warren don't stand a chance at all, they're just bogging down the field.

It's time to get the trash out, this needs to be a 2 person race; Biden or Sanders.

>You can only argue on behalf of something if it personally affects you. Or else you're virtue-signalling.

This is the crux of the problem with your small-minded mentality.

I don't know any doctors who own a single yacht, let alone three and I'm surrounded by doctors. Single payer isn't better than a free market healthcare system which we do not have.

If wealth generation is artificial then I guess the bonuses the CEOs are getting are artificial too. I guess all this wealth is artificial which in that case, the wealth inequality is much smaller than it is. If the wealth inequality is much smaller than it is, why all the whining?

I'm glad you're a happy canadian I just don't know how long it will last for you. If Canada had the demographics of Mexico, I don't think you'd be very happy with the healthcare system nor the remnants of your social welfare programs that you had.

Most of the damage caused by corporate lobbying has already been done, and is irreversible (though it can be slowed) in that the difference between parties is primarily of how deeply they bow to those whose interests lie elsewhere, with global investments. And as far as most of the public goes, it's divided between a neoconservative or populist Right, who will vote for any malignant self-aggrandizing narcissist keen to make them poorer and than they already are, provided they make the niggers poorer still, and a neoliberal or anti-nationalist left, who will vote for anyone who will make someone else richer, in exchange for the privilege of remaining no poorer than they already are. All of this is despite the fact that automation, combined with an increasingly militarized police, have made capital flight irrelevant: The industrial capacity of the US is roughly double what it was in 1980, yet the middle class is still dying, and primarily because it is legal--and incredibly cheap to whom private islands hardly dent the budget--to buy the official who sells only what you approve. For all of the obvious strategic advantages the US has, this one weak link in the design of the state has almost canceled their effect.

You mean Biden you ignorant dipshit.

We have a large sphere of influence in order to maintain ourselves as the world reserve currency. If the USA were to shrink its military and reduce its influence, we would lose the ability to print money.

>if you don't agree with my you are small minded
You really need to take a step back and see how retarded your own arguments are, pal

The ability to print money wouldn't matter if you were able to be self-sufficient, and your nation is resource-rich and highly educated and skilled, despite its showing here on Yea Forums.

Canada had a successful central bank that effectively exercised monetary policy to its own benefit by issuing interest free loans to government (funding infrastructure and human capital projects). These were non-inflationary because each dollar created was reaped multiply in terms of real physical improvements to the economy in terms of productivity.

Then Trudeau Sr. sold us to to the cabal of global central banks, which the Federal Reserve is itself a part of.

Now the focus is on keeping the current financial elite secure at the expense of the nation's welfare.

Canadian, eh?!

And you say America's social fabric is degrading? Tell me again about how you have to treat your child as the half-orc barbarian that he identifies or have them taken away by the government.

>The ability to print money wouldn't matter if you were able to be self-sufficient, and your nation is resource-rich and highly educated and skilled, despite its showing here on Yea Forums.
You'd have to get rid of all the dumb brown people, the junkies and other people at or below the poverty line. Fuck it, just wipe out anybody in the bottom 50% income scale. That'll fix that debt problem overnight. Militarize the borders and kill anybody who overstays their Visas.

>half-orc barbarian
lol

Listening to that self-important blowhard Peterson?

That's a complete mischaracterization of a completely sensible law that in no way compels speech of any kind, but does limit inflammatory comments, as is our wont. We put less value on individual freedoms up here, though. Yours is life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Ours is peace, order and good government. Ironically we tend to be happier, anyways.

>Most of wealth generation is completely artificial
This is such a fucking cop out. Doctors and nurses and lawyers should just give up their money to the government and work for nothing. This is not a fucking argument. Doctors earn every penny they make, period. Yet not only are they made out to be the fucking bad guy by people like you, but you just expect these people to basically work for fucking free. Even though it takes a LONG fucking time and a lot of work to become a doctor, any doctor. But the democrats want to force medical schools to take any retarded chimp off the fucking street and allow them to go through medical school, KNOWING they would never tolerate that bullshit with their own doctors.

It's the Democrats, of course it's highly suspect.

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Yes, because the NHS in the UK and the socialized healthcare systems of the provinces of Canada are staffed by chimps who are paid peanuts, and we all suffer because of it.

Wait... both countries have better heatlhcare outcomes in longevity and infant mortality, among other key indicators? And doctors remain highly regarded and earn a decent but not gratuitous amount?

Huh.

>I prefer businesses fucking up and closing shop than govt. doing that and not being held accountable for it
LMAO HOW THE FUCK ARE BUSINESSES ACCOUNTABLE? IT TOOK FEDERAL INTERVENTION INTO THE TOBACCO INDUSTRY TO FIX IT, WHERE THEY WERE PROMOTING LITERAL FAKE SCIENCE AND PAYING DOCTORS TO SAY CIGARETTES AREN'T DEADLY

Oh yes, if only we were more like the fucking UK. What a grand idea. You gotta be fucking kidding me with this. And good luck convincing people to go through 10+ years of schooling just to make 50k a fucking year at the end of it. I'm sure that'll end REALLY well. Because we don't already have a fucking shortage or anything. And yes your team literally wants to force medical schools to accept large amounts of blacks and hispanics no matter how fucking retarded they are. But if one of them commits malpractice or ends up getting patients killed the democrats won't say a fucking word. And their own personal doctor must have a perfect GPA from Harvard Medical School. As long as it's someone else and their family who has to deal with it they don't care.

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>better healthcare outcomes
>Countries with lower obesity rates and higher percent of white people

color me surprised

Don't think for a second the healthcare system and how much money is spent is actually going to meaningfully change healthcare outcomes. USA is filled with dumb obese fucks who are too stupid to do much of anything, let alone actually listen to a doctor when they're giving good advice.

Most people just need to be purged, especially the homeless.

Doctors in Canada easily make 6 figure salaries and universities are accredited through third-party audit and students must meet minimum thresholds to advance...

You need to stop watching Faux News.

Regulations are one thing but when the govt. is running the show, accountability goes out the window.

When the govt. poisons people, nobody gets in trouble but when private sector poisons people, all of a sudden the govt. is the savior.

exactly this shit

Regular preventative medicine is a part of a socialized system and reduces the overall burden on emergency interventions greatly, thereby reducing cost.

Also, a well-funded public education system would address that whole 'dumbfuck' issue.

but then she can't tell her blizzard story for the 1000th time

yeah, but the 'girls' with big cans used to be guys, so, no.

I don't give a shit. That's what you're not getting. If things are going so great then feel free to move to one of those countries. This shit is fucking ridiculous, where we have people who want big brother to get involved in every goddamn thing in their lives. Raising taxes just to turn around and expand the government and more "social" programs that people end up abusing anyway. At what point is it enough for your team? Until we have full blown communism? With the added clown world bullshit of taking guns away and having a de-facto open border with Mexico. Yeah that's gonna work out real fucking nice. Because we don't have tons of drugs that are illegal pouring into the country right now. I'm sure that won't happen with guns though. Give me a fucking break.

Can't speak for Canada but I know in the EU the payscale is half that.

Why the fuck is a country with a GDP of $17T, population of 300M+ people filled with chinks, niggers and spics suppose to take advice from a country with a population about the state of california, has no military influence of any kind, has just asians and whites for its population?

Klobuchar isn't capable of being a principal in an all-white middle school.

>Not to mention that cunt Tulsi Gabbard is still running for god knows what reason.
Tulsi has more balls than every man on that stage put together.

Have fun losing every single one of our Middle East allies to Russia. You’re a retard

>When the govt. poisons people, nobody gets in trouble
Yes they do, you vote them out, the feds investigate, and administrations can change every 4 years.

Preventative medicine saving money? Are you kidding? Then why was obamacare such a failure? First of all, people who have insurance and have money can't be bothered to engage in preventive medicine anyway. So all you have left are idiots who only go to the doctor to hit them up for pain meds.

There was a lot of speculation that lack of insurance meant people would visit the emergency room more and by offering people free doctor visits, they would avoid using the emergency room. Instead, obamacare encouraged people to use the emergency room more. I know poor people and wealthy people who use the emergency room for bullshit.

The whole system is fucked and single payer will exacerbate all the problems we have with it even more. Nobody is penalized for being a fucking idiot. That's what the free market is suppose to do, penalize dumbasses for wasting time/money/resources.

Education system doesn't make an idiot less of an idiot. I know you think everybody is equal but we're not. South America average IQ is 10 points less than nordic countries. Africa's average IQ is 20 points less than nordic countries. You can't fix stupid.

But that's the point. Doctors should have to go through 10+ years of schooling only to end up making 50k a year. I'm sure that'll work out just fine. Because we only have a surplus of doctors apparently. Let's lower the incentive to become one by 100 times. This is the most ridiculous bullshit I have ever heard and yet people actually believe this. Doctors should just live as peasants and work for nothing. Some thing with business owners, they should pay a "living wage" for people to wash fucking dishes or deliver pizza for a fucking living, if they don't they're the bad guy. Because god forbid we tell people to learn a fucking skill or go to college if they want more money, and if you go don't major in fucking bullshit. No that doesn't sound sexy or fun, so let's pander to those losers and point fingers at "wall street".

I’m guessing someone found a bath house video, faggots love bath houses and they all go at some point

You call that accountability? What about all the soldiers that have been poisoned due to our govt. incompetence? Agent Orange? Gulf War I? Gulf War II with the WMDs? The list is endless on the number of govt. fuckups and how little to no accountability there is.

I am a fairly important person who works with the design and pricing of health insurance products and innovative programs.

Instead of arguing about general nonsense, why not ask someone who actually does this shit for a living?

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>implying BUTTigieg isn't a strict bottom

>He's too much of a threat
No he's not you fucking dipshit
Buttigieg was literally an empty suit
polling for shit

you frogposters need to make a conspiracy about everything

>o through 10+ years of schooling only to end up making 50k a year. I'm sure that'll work out just fine. Because we only have a surplus of doctors apparently. Let's lower the incentive to become one by 100 times. This is the most ridiculous bullshit I have ever heard and yet people actually believe this. Doctors should just live as peasants and work for nothing. Some thing with business owners, they should pay a "living wage" for people to wash fucking dishes or deliver pizza for a fucking living, if they don't they're the bad guy. Because god forbid we tell people to learn a fucking skill or go to college if they want more money, and if you go don't major in fucking bullshit. No that doesn't sound sexy or fun, so let's pander to those losers and point fingers
Well think about it. If healthcare is a RIGHT as the left is saying, then the doctors SHOULD work as peasants and SHOULD provide these services at reduced or no cost. These leftists are so entitled to everything that it's no surprise they will vote for Bernie.

Did you know Bernie got kicked out of a commune? Can you guess why? BECAUSE ALL HE DID WAS TALK AND DIDN'T WANT TO WORK.

>bottom
Nah man, after watching his husband talk tonight Pete is DEFINITELY not the bottom

We're good. Go fuck right off, don't give the libs any fodder. The healthcare in the USA is fucked up for numerous reasons, health insurance is only semi related.

When your husband is worth 8 million you better believe it

I would have sex with her

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>No conservative can understand that leftists understand how taxes work but think that the benefit to society higher taxes create is worth the tax burden

Holy fuck cuckservatives only think about themselves and their bulls

>don't give the libs any fodder.
fuck off trumpshit
it's over
over

you'd better fucking back sanders or shut the fuck up

politics can suck my phat peepee

>free shit
you should literally have to shove shit down your throat for repeating this lie on the internet

He's a power bottom

>You call that accountability?
Yes, as opposed to the insurance industry, without question. We made electricity for example a public good because otherwise private companies would lever the shit out of pricing.
If the government fucks up, they are incentivized to correct, or they lose their seats of power.
A corporation's profit motive means they'll shake the loss of poisoning the water table of entire countries.
>Agent Orange? Gulf War I? Gulf War II with the WMDs?
Part of the risks enlisting in the military is dealing with the capriciousness of the MIDC. But yes, veterans healthcare is among the things the left is trying to fix, whereas Trump appointed Mar-a-Logo buddies to run the VA despite having no relevant experience.

Never understood why people like Bernie and others blame health insurance for anything.

We lose money with high healthcare costs too. Hell, the reason costs aren't even higher right now is because of insurance. We had a good system in the 80's and 90's with HMOs but everyone bitched about it because they didn't have real choices in their own healthcare. Everyone seems to forget about that now though

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you're very butt hurt and your anus is gaping. You don't really understand what a huge faggot you are being raped by trump turtle and pence
rule of three trumpshit

>The #1 cause of bankruptcy is people being horrible with money.
Then you agree Trump isn't qualified to be President, since he has 6.

What makes it even more ridiculous is that the same people who complain about how much doctors are paid, while also ignoring the debt they take on and how much schooling they go through, are the same fucking people that are demanding a "living wage" be paid to people who flip fucking burgers and wash dishes for a living.

>We had a good system in the 80's and 90's with HMOs

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>We had a good system in the 80's and 90's if you were rich
lol THAT'S SO DIFFERENT FROM NOW

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Get a load of this tip top teenie bop edgy poster. You have school tomorrow, g2bed

It cut healthcare trends in half. Hate to break it to you but insurance isn't why healthcare is expensive. You either have to pay the doctors way less or reduce utilization drastically. HMOs did a little of both.

HMOs reduce costs... They are not really for the rich in any sense. That would be indemnity plans that you are thinking of

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One million dollars

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The left is trying to fix the VA? Really? And you think Trump has no interest? The VA is a joke of a system and a perfect example of how throwing money at a problem won't always fix it. It's govt. bureaucracy at its worse. There is no helping the VA.

Electricity isn't entirely public or private and there are regulations on pricing and whatnot. People bitched at PGE for having such terrible infrastructure when the CPUC told them to prioritize their spending on dumb shit. Dems say that's why they need to make the electric companies in california a public utility yet conveniently ignore how Puerto Rico's electrical infrastructure was even worse. Democrat run areas always devolve into ruins because their priorities are in direct conflict with facts. The prioritize the dumbest shit like gender, racial and sexual preference quotas rather than hiring competent people. I live in commiefornia and it makes me sad to see how things are collapsing around me.

I didn't vote for Trump but I have to this time because the alternative is a pedophile, a communist or a gun grabber (bloomberg).

What, and let Bernie win?
The DNC wholly intends on letting Trump win instead of supporting Bernie.

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The reason healthcare is expensive is that hospitals can get away with it... 30 dollar fucking aspirin when my mom had life saving surgery. Fuck off with that.

>but insurance isn't why healthcare is expensive
Where do the get the money to maintain their bloated bureaucracy?
Federal Subsidies and your premiums.
There's literally no reason for insurance to exist.

tomorrow you will see another daily reminder that you support a criminal presidential administration and that your support is unamerican and we will vote you and your fellow criminals out of office

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Settle down. SC will go to Trump in 2020. There was never any promise the Dems would ever take it.

Bernie will clean up Super Tuesday.

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Can any conservative answer me as to how exactly insurance and socialized healthcare are different besides the fact that you have a choice to shift the burden to insurance paying people by not obtaining insurance?

No, they can't

Actually there was a reason. Insurance was for those off cases, not for every single goddamn procedure and prescription. That's what I want. Before Obamacare my premiums were $50 a month with 4K deductible and OOP. Now my premium is $400 a month with $6K deductible and OOP. Fuck Obama and fuck democrats. I was happy with what I had.

>The reason healthcare is expensive is that hospitals can get away with it.

Yup! These large hospital organizations hold all of the bargaining power and really can't stop you from paying their prices for the most part.

Now what you see probably isn't the "true" price. If the hospital wants $5 for asprin from insurance contracts, they aren't going to bill it at $5. They are going to charge $30 and get an 83% discount.

>Where do the get the money to maintain their bloated bureaucracy?

Economies of scale. When you have billions of dollars in premium you can afford high salaries even when you are also paying out billions of dollars of claims. Not to mention investments, which again, are high due to the sheer scale of transactions.

You know why health insurance exists. Wait for the corona virus to hit. The insurance companies will lose billions.

Not only that but you know that insurance companies have reserves right? They don't just get to take in all of the premium at once.

OH and if you want to talk about bloat. Look into redundant reserves. People literally pay millions to get rid of stupid government requirements and yet you want that same government to run the system.

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>I have to be stupid this time
>I have too I have too durr communist I have to be stupid
faggot

What? Socialized medicine depending on how it's structured could be a wealth redistribution scheme which is what democrats are salivating at. I'm no fan of wealth redistribution. I do not want to be taxed in order to pay for something I may or may not need. Insurance isn't 100% necessary for everybody all the time.

>Communist

Lol I'm not sure if I want retards to vote for my candidates anyway.

I'm a faggot because I don't want #BreadlineBernie or #DirtyBernie as my president?

>Can any conservative answer me
no
they're stupid
enrage them
make them show us
how seething they actually are
that we're winning

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>#BreadlineBernie
you literally have no penis user

youtube.com/watch?v=K2d3DMC6qyg
youtube.com/watch?v=KVFlXfTW33o
youtube.com/watch?v=pU5RDwk2nFk

So you are holding on to the idea that you may one day make it big on the order of hundreds of billions, and you'd rather a large number of people not seek preventative care and suffer simply because you'd rather the same people that have indoctrinated you to stay in their lofty spires? Sounds very wage-slave of you.

youtube.com/watch?v=RiM-yNEQ93I

Trump is teaching me how to exploit through exploiting others
this is valuable and it will help me move out of my mom's someday along with Rand

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The reason why Obamacare sucked is because it's a private, for profit model, where you get stuck with a bill with none of the benefits.

Trashcan all this shit, you'll pay less.

>youtube.imafag.kickme.berniemakesmeseething.faggot
lol

You know I appreciate that you have the same 3 videos I've seen everywhere at the ready to copy and paste, but this dirty commie has more than 50% support from America and is arguing for a democratic country with strong welfare programs for citizens amid an autonomous revolution that will rock the economy to its core.

Lol fuck u fagg. Down here we're focused on not being a broke faggot and voting liberal.

The only way you could get people to not be colossal fuckups when it comes to their health is to babysit and basically force feed them a healthy diet. They're fucking idiots and no matter of healthcare system will change it.

Obamcare lead to more deaths thanks to the opioid crisis than it saved. 45K people 'die' due to a lack of insurance (how they came up with this metric I don't know but it's questionable) yet at least 250K die due to medical errors and 100K die from drug overdoses each year. Drug overdoses after Obamacare became law became the #1 cause of death for younger people.

What a massive success that was!

>and yet you want that same government to run the system
Yes, because our private model costs more for lesser results. Do you think Europe didn't consider a system similar to ours? They did, and the bad debt it inflicted upon the population wasn't worth it for some asshole insurance CEO to keep his business.

>Obamcare lead to more deaths
what wingnut AM talk radio are you listening to faggot lol

I'm not concerned with paying less because I do not pay anything except medical insurance premiums. There is zero chance that switching from premiums to taxes will save me money.

The only idea democrats have for saving money is forcing everybody into HMO equivalent that is the VA health system. NO THANKS

If you are somehow blaming Obama for the overprescription of opioids by doctors then I know where your values lie...

There is a party to blame for the opioid crisis sure, but I doubt it was the black man in his white house.

>wealth redistribution scheme
I love how this is always the go to answer against welfare, yet you guys don't see the irony of agreeing to a contracted wage with no access to the wealth your labor creates.

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If america elects this idiot along with a super majority of democrats, the country will be finished as a world power. At that point, all will have been lost and I'll have to exit before the riots/civil war starts and he destroys the U.S currency value.

Obamacare KILLED MORE PEOPLE THAN IT SAVED, THAT IS A FACT. IDIOT.

>So you are holding on to the idea that you may one day make it big on the order of hundreds of billions

If you think that socalized healthcare is going to be paid only by millionaires and billionaires then you are sadly mistaken. The taxes of every single american will increase. It isn't feasible any other way.

>you'd rather a large number of people not seek preventative care and suffer simply because you'd rather the same people that have indoctrinated you to stay in their lofty spires?

Woah now, you seem to be conflating a lot of things in this argument. Are you suggesting socalized healthcare or socalized preventive care? Two completely different things.

>Yes, because our private model costs more for lesser results.

Big citation needed. I have read a lot of studies on health costs and it is damn near impossible to get a health cost comparison that is statistically sound. Just as a simple example. None of the most cited cost studies are even risk adjusted.

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Then you are in the 1% of Americans with a sensible healthcare plan. Everyone else suffers. I understand that conservatives are inherently selfish, but I think that it would be best for the growth of our country and the wellbeing of its citizens if everyone had equal access to healthcare.

Not that user but quit typing with shaky hands and post proofs.

Obama certainly did not intend for that to happen but that's what happened. Single payer will save no money and will decrease the quality of care which is already stretched thin due to the lack of doctors and nurses.

I don't want to share my healthcare with poor brown people. I have no interest in 'equity'.

Good riddance lmao

I have no interest in hearing about your interpretation on labor theory. Karl Marx never worked a day in his life.

>Obama was a NIGGER
>that's all I've GOT
>a NIGGER
>NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER

>And you think Trump has no interest?
Considering he scammed a veterans charity out of money (not his first) and just recently downplayed the severity of our troop's injuries during the rocket attack, no user, I don't think a grifting senile narcissist gives a shit about the troops.

>Muh puerto rico
California's GDP is 2000 times larger. They can afford it.
> Democrat run areas always devolve into ruins
Wanna go down the list of States most dependent on federal aid?
Hint: They're not mostly democrat strongholds.

To whom? My existence in the USA does not hurt anybody as I am not a parasite. You're the kind of idiot who would try to murder all the 1%s and think it would benefit society as a whole.

Socialized healthcare is the same as socialized preventative care, and the fact that you do not know that these are one and the same has convinced me that you are not someone to listen to on this. I know that my taxes are going to increase, it does not phase me because the net benefit to society is worth the extra tax burden.

I never cared about obama's race, just that he wa a democrat. If he was a republican and had different ideas I wouldn't have minded him at all.

Not that user but if Faggijudge couldn't convince America neither can you.
Medicare for All. Stop being a dense fuck and come out in favor itt with me.
Start attacking these fucks who think it won't work.

>I do not pay anything except medical insurance premiums
Until you get sick.
Your money is already spent for an insurance pool TO TAKE CARE OF OTHER PEOPLE

By definition, it will save you money. It will also lead to an increase in production and the economy in the long term because there will be a much healthier and longer living workforce.

They're dependent on aid because they don't have a large body of water next to them. California used to be a republican state and was great but now is turning to a liberal shithole like Illinois.

Yeah it sure was great when minorities started using their constitutional rights and then were denied those rights simply because the white man in the governor's office got scared.

So you're saying that Republican states and thus Republican voters are the true niggers who need gibs to survive and thrive at the cost of productive dems then, got it.

This is a lie. There is no benefit, no change, just waste. Preventitive medicine is a farce when you have fucking narcissistic idiots who think that free healthcare means they can eat as much as they want and whatever they want. No literally, I got into an argument with someone who was sad they had to take care of their health because they couldn't afford to go to the doctor. They outright admitted they would eat garbage and live like garbage if they had free healthcare.

It's called tragedy of the commons and anything that is 'free' is worthless.

>d because they don't have a large body of water
No, because they vote in the same yokel jackass for governor and his sucks local coporate cock while the local scream MUH FREEDUM WOOO.
Sam Brownback did your free market bullshit in Kansas and it trashed the entire states infrastructure.

Why not just cover preventive services then if that is what you are so worried about? Most costs in the system (around 80%) come from the big 5 chronic diseases which mostly stem from obsity and smoking. How is preventive care going to fix that.

It does not save you money by definition. How are you going to control healthcare trends? The medicare trend has been close to 5% the past few years. That is quite a bit higher than inflation.

Also you are making the big assumption that the government will be more efficient than private companies with a profit motivation.

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I know it's money wasted. If I didn't have so much money I wouldn't pay the health insurance premiums either. Just pay the insurance if I had a long term condition. Already wasted $50K on insurance premiums for zero benefit. Fuck those freeloaders. Insurance should be for catastrophic illness only, not for pregnancy, sex change operations and doctor visits.

There are plenty of white niggers but as a percentage of the racial population, actual niggers are the biggest parasites.

Okay, but your anecdotal evidence does not prove anything whatsoever. I am aware of the tragedy of the commons, but can you explain why this system works just fine in most European countries, if not the UK or here? And what if we offered tax breaks to anyone in decent health? There is an easy compromise here. The American tax system is already a bloated mess, might as well play around with it.

They already told him who wins the election, he doesn't want to waste any more time on it

It's fuckin kansas, what do you expect?

So its almost as if socialized medicine would be more advantageous to you...

You sound rather parasitic white nationalist fagshit

If you're only going to think in terms of self impact while literally everything in your life is the product of the government to one degree or another, then I hope you die in the boomer extinction.

I have to white knight billionaires because if I piss them off I'll never become one

The system is not fine there and their demographics aren't 50% of south america. Half the US is filled with spics and niggers and you think those people are equal contributors to the whites and asians?

Kill all people with IQ below 100 and forcibly imprison drug addicts into treatment and I'll let you have a single payer healthcare system.

It's not advantageous because I can say to hell with the insurance premium and stop paying it entirely while with taxes I have no such luck.

the race is becoming more and more between sanders, biden, and bloomberg. buttigieg lost out when biden surged in SC.

>Florida
>Not being a broke faggot
Lol, good one user

Why doesn't Warren or Stupidchar drop out tho

Turning racist in an argument is a surefire way to lose that argument. I wish you well and I hope that you can come to understand others in the future.

I like this idea but its too brilliant to work.

Exactly and yet no one can explain this. It's obvious Warren is only still in to steal votes from Bernie.

Yes and then if something bad happens to you then you will pay much more...

Warren is running explicitly to screw Bernie over. This is what multiple staffers have said. Klob I have no fucking clue, she just doesn't know when to quit.

you mean Bernie's VP candidate

Warren is just trying to cut into Bernie's voter base, although nobody is falling for it.

Facts don't care about your feelings.

This. Warren is in because she is being groomed for a top position in the Sanders Administration. Buttigieg is a joke and he saw the writing on the wall.

It depends but yes there are circumstances where I could lose out.

>IQ
you realize this is a shitty metric for intelligence, right?

Best post in this sad thread.

The older I grow the more I am convinced that conservatives are more governed by feelings than Liberals are, though your feelings are hate and fear and Liberals are love and compassion. Learn a new way or you will lose yourself.

Let me guess, you're one of those idiots who believe in 'multiple intelligences'... The only people who claim it's a poor judge of intelligence are those who score low on it. You're probably of the same ilk of people who think doing away with the SAT and ACT tests for college admission would be a good thing.

I didn't even score that high on the IQ test but high enough to know that YES IT DOES MATTER especially when I can correctly guess someone's IQ within 15 standard deviation points just listening to them talk for about 5 minutes.

Therefore, the safest option for you and most Americans is a socialized healthcare system.

We're all governed by feelings. But fact is, niggers and spics are dumber than whites and asians. That's a fact.

You're retarded and a closet fag

I would say this is true, almost every conservative I know spends a lot of time on their social media talking big about how they are going to beat up the liberals or how they are a real men and just try to play themselves up like they are straight out of an action movie or something.

I'm not really concerned with 'safest option' because safest option would mean I have the least potential of making large sums of money. If you equalize everything you can eliminate all risks but I don't necessarily want to do that.

When conservatives ignore science, yes.
Science doesn't give a fuck about what anyone feels.

Anyone who believes in the IQ metric or the idea of standardized testing leads to an ultimate view of intelligence probably hasn't scored very high on any reputable test.

The people that argue for changes to these systems that should be taken seriously are those who have taken advantage of them.

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>The older I grow the more I am convinced that conservatives are more governed by feelings than Liberals are
that's true. conservatives are mostly driven by a feeling that the hierarchies that exist are good and should be upheld, while liberals think we should maybe make these hierarchies a little less stratified so the people at the bottom can live good lives.

>Let me guess, you're one of those idiots who believe in 'multiple intelligences'...
Let me guess, you think we can holistically gauge intelligence in metrics like IQ, while IQ isn't even known to be a good metric for cognitive capacity in a vacuum.

>We're all governed by feelings. But fact is, niggers and spics are dumber than whites and asians. That's a fact.
Even if I grant you that they have poorer performance on given cognitive tests, that doesn't explain why. It feels like you're trying to post-hoc justify an essentialist bias you have about black people.

You might find a good home in a capitalist paradise such as China. America is trending the other way, toward a system that does not allow any few to become oligarchs. This new system may not be for you.

nobody will believe a gay man pulled out early

Can someone start a new Conservative destruction thread so that we can continue such riveting conversations as

>Intellectual conversations
vs
>NIGGERS FAGGOTS AND JEWS

Amy will drop out after Super Tuesday. She's staying in until then because Minnesota, where she's from, is one of the states that will be voting. Their votes are more likely to go toward Sanders. By staying in the race until then, she siphons delegates from him and makes it that much harder for him to pull away.

Wait a minute you just described Yea Forums as full of women, that's not right

>Let me guess, you think we can holistically gauge intelligence in metrics like IQ, while IQ isn't even known to be a good metric for cognitive capacity in a vacuum.
IQ is a huge determining factor in a lot of things. You cannot be a doctor in the USA with an IQ less than 90. You can't do a lot of things with an IQ less than 100 and you can't do anything with an IQ less than 80.

>Even if I grant you that they have poorer performance on given cognitive tests, that doesn't explain why. It feels like you're trying to post-hoc justify an essentialist bias you have about black people.

This goes back to the feelings thing. You've already decided everybody is equal then when you find evidence to the contrary, you just assume that evidence is wrong and its conclusions are wrong. We're not equal in physical or mental ability.

Blacks are on average dumber than whites because whites on average struggled more to survive in the cold climates while blacks had no such evolutionary pressures. Aborigines of australia are the dumbest, oldest humans on earth. You're too 'woke' to realize that there are regional/geographical reasons why some groups of people are smarter than others. Can't have a rational discussion with you because you're too biased.

I don't care your race or ethnicity, just your IQ.There are other abilities besides IQ that matter but in terms of logic thinking and other things, IQ is very important.

HAHAQ top KEK

So half a ball?

Don't think everyone didn't notice that you only replied to the weakest b8 arguments here.

>IQ is a huge determining factor in a lot of things. You cannot be a doctor in the USA with an IQ less than 90. You can't do a lot of things with an IQ less than 100 and you can't do anything with an IQ less than 80.
I don't remember having to do an IQ test just to be eligible for university. I would need to see shitloads of data about this before I give it any credence.

>You've already decided everybody is equal then when you find evidence to the contrary, you just assume that evidence is wrong and its conclusions are wrong
I start with no assumptions. You have not presented me a compelling enough case that the differences we see are essential to this groups and not a result of institutional barriers and other conditions aside from essential nature.

>We're not equal in physical or mental ability.
you being such a retard is evidence of this, i have to concede on this point.

>Blacks are on average dumber than whites because whites on average struggled more to survive in the cold climates while blacks had no such evolutionary pressures.
that's a wild fucking claim to make. you will need to present me shitloads of data about why this is the case and that it is not tied to other factors.

>You're too 'woke' to realize that there are regional/geographical reasons why some groups of people are smarter than others. Can't have a rational discussion with you because you're too biased.
I know you're acting in bad faith but I find this funny, because I have given your arguments orders of magnitude more charity than any other faggot in this thread.

>I don't care your race or ethnicity, just your IQ.
That's why you worry so much about the haha negroids right?

I wonder if this joker has tried to look into IQ data of African men in well-educated countries, or if he's just used countries that have been decimated by colonialism and slavery... oh.... wait....

niggers be niggin

>decimated by colonialism
shhhh user, he's already seething, you don't have to use more libtard words

>I don't remember having to do an IQ test just to be eligible for university. I would need to see shitloads of data about this before I give it any credence.
Not that guy but you do realize it is borderline impossible to become a doctor if you're not smart, right? The sheer amount of memorization alone requires some serious brain power. It's not just years of partying and catching STDs every week like when you're a liberal arts major.