Why is there so big IQ score gap between black and white people?

IQ is a measure of your brains ability to extract information from data or a given system/scenario and interpret it. It has absolutely nothing to do with specific knowledge, you fucking retarded idiot. If you had ever taken a real iq test you would notice that 99% of it is pattern recognition.

white people haven't put enough money into them programs yet

they did

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$100 million? That ain't shit, nigga. We need mo' money fo' dem programs 'n shit.

This is the correct answer, whites had to store food for the winter and defend that food

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How stupid do you have to be to miss the point this hard.

That's not the definition of intelligence. I think Tyrone is making shit up again guys.

Can I come too..?

For purely economic factors

due to historical reasons
> blacks are imported as slaves
> get no education
> eventually slavery ends
> they are poor
> aren't allowed access to good schools
> they remain poor and can't advance in society
> so they can't have access to good schools
> the cycle continues
it's socio-economic. not race based

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Less educated.. you can learn a shoe to do math...

My dude, good job. Add to your description the ability, independent of context, to take this extracted data and solve a complex problem and you've nailed it.

And for you fucktard morons, there's only one type of IQ and no such thing as emotional intelligence. You're not smart for noticing a person's feelings. I'm so tired of hearing this shit.

Maybe, but you can't English an user to post a understandable.

I just took the WAIS-IV. There absolutely was a general knowledge section. They asked among other things the diameter of the Earth, and how many minutes it takes light from the sun to reach the Earth. The rest was symbolic stuff mostly.

>aren't allowed access to good schools
All you need is an adequate public (free) school where you can learn to read and do basic math. Once you have that opportunity, any failure rests squarely on your own shoulders.

What about actual Africans then? They had a whole continent full of natural resources and didn't do shit with it.

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Did you pass or what? Don't keep us hanging like this!

Turns out I'm getting stupider in my old age. I only got 155.

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Isn't that the ceiling for wechsler? How are you handling your decline? Is it early dementia or exposure to an abundance of thots?

I agree with you somewhat, but before colonization, Africa wa better then even Europe. Colonization really fucked them over.

>africa
>food everywhere
Nigger what?

they asked me several questions during an official IQ test that I only knew how to answer because it happened to be about a topic that interested me

I dont feel that certain interests automatically deserve me to be labeled as more intelligent

but then again the entire thing is flawed

You ever met an indian? Like a ki-yi smokem peace pipe indian? They evolved in cold, and are asiatic... They are prairie niggers, dumb as fuck.

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Go to another website

160 is the ceiling. I blame all of you faggots for rotting my brain. Turns out the cancer that is killing Yea Forums is brain cancer.

No it's not.
Accurate

And their public schools are not adequate

But this isn't true

Or did they ask those questions just to see if you were being honest and in reality they've been watching you for some time now to determine what you should and shouldn't know? I'm not saying you should be paranoid, but you should be paranoid. And don't kill any more goats with your mind this time.

this

they are normalized on whites
Asians are just better at the things they normalized. You could make a test that Asians would be worse at than whites, the huge emphasis on maths and spacial problemsolving is a major factor for their high scores

Stonetoss is propaganda

If this was true, why are albinos dumb as hell?

You don't understand what normalized is do you? The chart is pretty clear, whites are the standard by which others are compared.

Go back to school.

Oh shit. I'm sorry to hear that. Is it anything interesting or just run of the mill temporal lobe astrocytoma? Also, when did b get all this cancer? It's like everyone drank koolaid from the Chernobyl company cafeteria.

Who's spreading this nonsense?

IQ testing specifically doesn't require any previous experience or knowledge. It tests your brain like a computer uses RAM. It's not asking 'white' specific questions.

Have you ever taken one? You're fucking low IQ for damn sure.

>IQ testing specifically doesn't require any previous experience or knowledge.
you've never taken an IQ test brainlet, its best your confidence too

What they're trying to say is that IQ tests are based on research. The tests are developed from sample populations, and race is a factor that has been used to calibrate the test.

That isn't how it works. That would introduce bias which is exactly what any spectrum type test seeks to eliminate.

MAYBE ALL OF THAT HAPPENED TO THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE INFERIOR AND FUCKING STUPID HOLY SHIT WAKE UP

This guy's work sucks

look at the fucking chart and then think about what you are saying. if the tests are based around whites and white people are bad and it's all set up to make whites the best then why are asians superior???

Why is can’t people speaking properlee on the interwebs

Exactly, the bias needs to be accounted for, therefore recording race, socioeconomic status, age, background, etc. Are all very important.

A one-room school with an 18-year-old headmistress teaching from a single primer is adequate to teach reading and math. The students are inadequate.

Oh Jesus H Christfuck. He didn't say it was designed to make whites look best, he said it was calibrated on whites. So whites average 100. By definition.

Also, thank you for being a living example that a racial average if 100 doesn't mean there aren't still white people as dumb as a goddamn post. A post with Downs syndrome.

Because we're better than you...

Na, not literal cancer, thank fuck. Maybe it was all the drugs back in college? Who the fuck knows.

kek

The idea that iq tests are 'not dependent on education' is complete bullshit.

Look at the global iq averages unsurprisingly the impoverished as fuck places with little to no free education suffer lower iq averages.

As for anecdotal evidence, there are lots of black people in my city and personally ive observed about the same spread of retarded - smart in blacks as anyone.

Normalized against whites meaning the standard, or average, or "yardstick" by which everyone is measured is 100 or whites, according to chart.

Using this common metric to measure everyone else, blacks do worse and Asians do better.

A different way they could normalize it would be using Asians, in which 100 would Asians, and everyone else would have done worse, then no one would be above 100.

It's all about what reference point they want to use.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normalization_(statistics)

its retarded but on the internet you have to use /s
cus everyone always assumes the most negative interpretation of anything

Their material is hilariously outdated, how is it adequate

Propaganda isn't inherently bad. You've just been brainwashed to think it is. We used to make propaganda movies about not trusting strangers and stuff.

Access to food, cultural knowledge, and education, as well as the that cultures general perception regarding education and intelligence. IQ tests are not a test of pure intelligence they are a test of intelligence inside a cultural framework. General Intelligence tests, that focus more on pattern recognition and novel inventive solutions tend to be more average across the human population. In addition IQ test do not in any way shape or form test for common sense, which is far more important in everyday life. There are plenty of people who score into the mensa level who can't even cook a meal or negotiate a basic transaction with another human. So if you want to base an entire world view on a single arbitrary test as is implied in your not so subtly racist false equivalency then go right ahead.

Geography does have allot to do with things, scattered populations who live in large harsh areas generally don't advance past hunter gatherer. If your near by other cultures, technological exchange takes place.

Its also important to remember, us Europeans were basically retarded savages while the middle east was thriving a few thousand years back. We couldn't work out how to write until written language flowed up through Europe from the Phoenicians, We DID NOT develop a decent writing system interdependently, very few places did (china central america and the middle east i think).

Fucking this.

"real IQ test" nice

Idk man the moment an iq test has questions unrelated to pattern recognition or logical thinking then it fails as an iq test and becomes more of a general knowledge test.
IQ is a measure on how fast you acquire knowledge and apply it. Testing on random knowledge in an iq test would defeat the purpose unless there was a briefing/lecture on that specific subject before the test.

>hilariously outdated
Over 100 years of hard data proves it works better than the garbage system we have today.

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This is the fucking problem we are seeing recently, what is a more appealing argument for a stupid person?

>Access to food, cultural knowledge, and education, as well as the that cultures general perception regarding education and intelligence. IQ tests are not a test of pure intelligence they are a test of intelligence inside a cultural framework. General Intelligence tests, that focus more on pattern recognition and novel inventive solutions tend to be more average across the human population. In addition IQ test do not in any way shape or form test for common sense, which is far more important in everyday life. There are plenty of people who score into the mensa level who can't even cook a meal or negotiate a basic transaction with another human. So if you want to base an entire world view on a single arbitrary test as is implied in your not so subtly racist false equivalency then go right ahead.

or

>nigs have low iq they dumb XD

Room temperature probably plays more of a factor than white-bias.

Therefore blacks are living in colder rooms.

Follow up question to this whole discussion: if IQ is such an important metric, why are there so few people in world who are truly successful in their chosen field?

Probably because motivation is factor? If being smart is such a big advantage, then that should be enough to be successful. But we still see smart people fail at life.

Also, who really cares about race? If aliens were to invade its every human fighting for the human race. Common enemy type thing.

If you want to see proof IQ tests are garbage you should know that Mensa makes their own tests that vary on backgrounds, socio economic status, country you live in, and so forth.

Standard IQ tests are too flawed and you could even train yourself to score higher on them

In addition I would like to add the reasons Asians appear to be so smart is only the smart ones make it over here. I've lived in asian countries and let me tell you they are just as average as "whites" in the US. Also to anyone doubting my original argument go ahead and look at the IQ scores across the US by state and you will find that places with large economic centers tend to do better and that the Midwest is abnormally high as well which is mostly because of all the Scandinavians whose culture is more accepting of intelligence and self improvement.

>implying
Obviously it's not always bad you dumb cunt, stonetoss is just bad propaganda

Proof?

let me use your favorite thing to prove why you're wrong
evolution is all we need to prove blacks are large sized children
whites evolved to preserve food through long winters, this led to rationing, more complex government, and thorough thought about family size
blacks had abundant food in most areas of africa in a warm climate without harsh season changes so that wasn't an issue

now you tell me why i'm wrong because 200 years of meanies overrides 100,000 years of evolution even though many whites were victim of the slave trade for much longer and we still built whole nations from the dust

>If aliens were to invade its every human fighting for the human race. Common enemy type thing.

I always thought this would make a good scifi novel, pity i dont have the motivation to write it.

You can join MENSA by achieving a qualifying score on any standardized tests to include sat act LSAT or GRE.

I don't buy the whole "average IQ tests of x country" "of x race" "of x nationality"
I don't know if even a 0,01% of any nation went through a proper IQ test
everyday for a week I'd have to spend a whole hour going through this test only for my psychologist to give up and not finnish it completely and just telling me I'm above average in three (or was it four) cathegories and below average in short term memory

Don't worry, they covered it in Independence Day.

It's just genetics. The same reason Asians cannot process alcohol properly and ethnics Jews are so prone to lactose intolerance. Time, environment, and an element of randomness.

>whites evolved to preserve food through long winters
>white evolved

Kek i don't think you know what evolution means, also i never even mentioned evolution.

If your kids got dumped in the middle of nowhere they would not automatically know crop rotation and how to build aqueducts lel.

How about one of the most wealthy men of all time was an African ruler

You always have to take one of their tests. A 120+ score on a regular test is merely a good sign

Fucking kek is that what that film was about? I was a retarded kid when it came out...

you try to humblebrag about how intelligent you are (yet somehow you're apparently mentally ill and unsuccessful in life) but you don't understand statistics at all. pathetic.

You do realize that this is nonsense right? Africa is the home of the Egyptians, the Babelonians and countless other extremely advanced cultures. In addition they invented numbers and maths. I mean do I really need to talk about the fact that the Libraries of Alexandria had books written in egyptian and sanskrit? Meanwhile in europe you have people dying from the all sort of disease during the middle ages cause they couldn't figure out how not to poop in their own water

Kek im no racist but if i was id probably point out how he also managed to destabilize half the continents economies by handing out too much gold on his Haj. Genuinely though that was an easy enough mistake to make.

>Tfw Italian
>Darker skin tone than the majority of Europe but higher IQ and very small rape and homicide rates
We ascended above

That's a fair case to make until you look at blacks origin country and their accomplishments.

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>very small rape and homicide rates

Shit really? Honestly i always assumed it would be fairly high there, its been a tough century for Italy.

Look at all the genius white people posting in this thread

none of this invalidates what i said, thanks for playing leftists, try again next time

the stats in this arent even correct, and theyre misleading
America with a lower intentional homicide rate than europe?
Is this cherry picking intentional instead of homicide rate, violent crime rate or anything else?

Yes it does though

Holy shit i really cant tell if troll or retarded.

No you can check their website they will admit you to their membership solely based off the scores on a standardized test check their website.

The number of homicides has been steadily going down for many years
In the 90s we had more than a thousand homicides per year, in 2017 they were 368 (intentional and not).
We're one of the safest places in the world.

>be white teacher in mostly black school

Black people aren't inherently dumber because their skin color. It's a large mix of things.
Going off the assumption that a large portion of black people today are descendants of slaves: stupid people have stupid children, MANY stupid children. The cycle continues and only a few break free from it.
Black culture doesn't reward those that are smart. In fact, it sometimes punishes those. It's called crabs in a pot. If a young black person tries to better themselves and break free from the culture, they are insulted by their family, or their family expects the new breadwinner to sink their money into their family.
The US is also biased but not on the scale people assume. No doubt it is harder for a qualified black person to go as far as a qualified white person. Think of it like this: You own a franchise selling expensive technology. You read two resmues just about the same, except one applicant is white and one is black. You can't hire both. So then other factors, not aloud, get taken into consideration. Who's more likely to attract customers? Probably the person who looks like 50% of the population. Depending on your views: who's more likely to rob your store? (14% of people, 50% of crime...)
With the slightly increased difficulty to become successful, many of those leaving the ghetto get dragged back in and the culture consumes them. "See what being smart got you? Nothing." And the cycle continues once more.
>>>>
I have had some very smart black students, but they get no encouragement to continue to be smart. Their friends and parents look at them with jealousy or hatred for trying to be white. There are rare occasions where 2 black parents decide to have a healthy amount of children and raise them right and encourage them, but it's rare. As you can see on the graph.

Except that it kinda sorta does. You say western white europeans evolved to be smarter cause they had to preserve food. To prove you point you need evidence and it is implied that either lies in the data, IE the IQ test which has already been shown to be flawed, or in the cultural achievements, which from these examples is also proved to be flawed. So please explain what you supporting evidence is or admit you failed to make a valid argument.

I imagine that mensa isn't worth it then, since anyone could train to score enough

Damn, that's good to know i always liked it there.

>heir friends and parents look at them with jealousy or hatred for trying to be white

The 'crabs in a barrel' thing is a sad reality happens all over the world.

youre right, surprised me to be honest

>being this retarded

From my experiences as a teacher, I would say it's the biggest reason a large amount of black people in America are poor and educated. I work in elementary school and I see their sparks snuffed out before they hit 6th grade.

>*uneducated

you're still basically saying blacks are worse than whites.

Because many blacks don't have access to good schools, and communities?

Yeah, you could train to get better score. But the same could be said for any IQ test. Both are bullshit.

I am not current on IQ tests but the last one I took they had 0 knowledge questions and I was always told that was the fastest way to invalidate an IQ test.

Your IQ probably isn't 155. Anything over 145 and youre smarter than 99%, 160 is 99.9%, assuming std dev is still 15 pts like it used to be. Their inclusion of a gen knowledge section may have inflated your score.

>china among highest IQs

I'm calling bullshit. Most of China is rural and agrarian with virtually no education at all. The rest are people who learn a few skills to execute a function for the remainder of their lives or until the state no longer needs them. Innovation is nonexistent, hence the constant copying/stealing of tech from other nations.

What about the races that score lower than whites do you call bullshit on those too?

Who's talking about whites?

[citation needed]

Not that user, but he is right, it is supposed to be knowledge independent, and as much as possible language independent. Any question that requires you to recall anything more than basic facts would be invalidated if the test was standardized.

Well you have a problem with the stats that suggest Chinese score higher than whites? WHat about the ones that score lower are those bullshit too?

I don't think you know how IQ tests work.
1) They don't normalize on a race (because the test doesn't know what color you are).
2) They don't ask math or English questions. Only general logic questions.

>Innovation is nonexistent in China
Have you been living in the cave for the last few years?

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Koko the Gorilla was smarter than most Africans.

>Well you have a problem with the stats that suggest Chinese score higher than whites?

No, I have a problem with them placed so highly in general when it seems wildly incorrect. I never commented on the placement of anyone else. How are you coming to the conclusion that I have a problem with their comparison to whites in particular?

Asians are better at booksmarts for sure than whites on average. Asians problem is they are too by the book and don't have the creativity and ingenuity. That's why there are more Asians on the planet than anyone else but all the billionaires are white. Mark zuck is white but all his employees are Asian. Different skill sets.

haha, o nice. So solving puzzles is normalized on whites.

Get a load of this guy xD

The idea that you have any clue what an IQ test is measuring is complete bullshit.

As an anecdote a lot of people pretend they know what their iq is and what tests are doing but most haven't taken a real test in their life ever.

>reading and math are different than they have ever been

What is the internet? Ive learned more on my own than I ever did in school.

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I have a hypothesis.

So blacks came from Africa, which has less than good soil for growing a diverse array of foods. You can't really farm there, you can't really raise healthy livestock, and you can't have access to a diverse diet.

I believe over the span of human evolution, blacks in Africa had their bodies conserve energy due to lack of sustainable nutrition.

The brain uses the most amount of energy in your body, meaning it requires the most calories. Well, if your intake of calories is low and you lack vitamins and nutrients, what's going to happen?

By the course of evolution, the brain will shrink. It's an effort to survive. If the thing that requires the most to survive can't get what it needs, the body will shrink it.

I believe the reason blacks are so ignorant is because they evolved in an environment that could not sustain healthy brain development over hundreds of thousands of years.

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The fucking problem we are seeing recently is a whole group of apologists trying to explain their way out of an uncomfortable fact.

You can (and people have...) written books trying to explain educational bias, economic bias, cultural bias... Yet when you account for all of these things the gap remains.

Yet an Asian with all those problems and more can come in and ace the test (or a jew who also routinely score high, but theyre "white" so they aren't counted.

Look at the difference between Liberia and Sierra Leone. Which one was colonized?

Genetics.
Plus education.
But a good education is the result of a fonctional society wich is the result of good potential intelligence in it s population, which is the result of genetics.
... So genetics.

Most of their tech is stolen. In house advancement comes from stolen/repurposed tech that originated elsewhere. This is why they are first in the world for theft as it's all that sustains them.

Zuckerberg is jewish, not white

This entire post is fail and doesn't deserve a response.

Intelligence is just an ability ceiling. I want my doctor to be knowledgeable, and although an idiot could potentially learn all a doctor needs to know, I sure would prefer if their IQ were at least 115-120 minimum. Id feel more comfortable that they wouldn't prescribe me the wrong dose because they got those two drug doses mixed up where the names sound the same.

IQ is just going to describe a trend, like race does. There are niggers with 150 iq im sure. But I wont walk in a mall of niggers and assume theres one of them with that IQ there. Its not very likely. It is far more likely that Im in a mall full of 65 iq chimps that could ape out at any moment, which is what we see happen.

This is why these things are important.

>hurr durr Socio-Economic reasons!

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I get that but it's also biological.
Like 75% of your IQ is controlled by biological factors
Noone is saying more melatonin in skin means lower IQ
They are saying the regions of the world where food is plentiful because of warmer regions that caused more melotonin caused lower IQ

If you don't have to innovate new ways to survive, you dont have a natural force killing off stupider people.

Hey...iq is not indicator of antisocial

The races are different sub-species of human. There is no reason to believe that they would all develop equal cognitive ability.

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>has already been shown to be flawed
when did this happen no one ever told me?

>or in the cultural achievements, which from these examples is also proved to be flawed

You provided examples of not niggers, but other brown people.

In the end that graph at the beginning is going to need an explanation that cant be provided or people will just assume blacks are dumber... oh wait everyone already does that.

as if any of you faggots get above 60 points lol

indeed, but the IQ test isnt proof of that

because IQ tests were designed as assessments of readiness for school. they were not intended as measures of intelligence. your are measuring the effects of the quality of education, even before formal education begins.

In America, affirmative action policy ensure that blacks have priority in the hiring process.

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>upper class

Yes science, philosphy and literature etc. are made by them not the lower class

China had the one child policy. If you have a dumb kid you don't get to hope the other one is smarter. Also china uses standardized testing to determine job status, so it is very competitive and parents push kids hard and they work harder because of it.

is this some boomber humor I'm too young to understand

That has little to do with IQ seeing as how you can push a retard all you wish and they will never advance.

No, just their gene

Don't be like nigger

He is jew

>so it is very competitive
chinese are also infamous for cheating culture
they have no issue bribing a testtaker or cheating in the test

Actually they are correlated.

both the highest and lowest(but mentally sane) IQ scoring people tend to be more anti social and more prone to addictions

Probably has to do with the fact they cant relate to the average person

> white>black -> gene
> yellow>white -> environment or cheating

lol

Other Asians are superior to whites, but chinese sure as hell arent, fallacy spewing whitey

yellow asians, chinese, japanese, koreans have the higher IQs than the darker asians

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I dont believe chinese score higher in fair testing without cheating, I do believe Koreans and Japanese do.
Koreans are obsessed with testing by the way, a low score is a death setence there basically
Kids kill themselves if they do bad on their version of the SAT

Yea Forums is full of smart niggers and dumb whites?

>if we change the test for knowledge of useless shit tyrone will flourish

or they could just learn math and language skills.

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blacks excel in running.

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but not in i.q tests

Poverty and a lack of education

No, Yea Forums is just full of smart nigger

Argentina is fucking withest than USA lmao

No neanderthal genes
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