What would happen if a sun made of ice would collide with a normal, lava-made sun? Both suns would be the same size and ice-made sun's temperature would be -1000 degrees of celsius and normal sun's temperature +1000 degrees of celsius.
Would their combined effects cancel each other out so that instead there would be only empty space or one 0-degree sun?
>calls black dwarf "Ice Sun" >says the surface temperature of the Sun is 1000 degrees Celsius >says the "normal" Sun is made of lava I would say your mom
Julian Brown
Also says -1000C go back to school kid
Elijah Flores
the same thing that happens if you run a humidifier and a dehumidifier in a sealed room. I would not recommend it
Luis Miller
The ice sun would have to surrender within a month or two. The regular sun has way superior fire power.
Owen Russell
They would combine to make something incredibly stupid and unexpected. Yet it would still pale in comparison to the stupidity of this post.
There's so much friction. Probably one larger slightly less than 1000C sun OP
Elijah Edwards
>lowest possible It is, negative kelvin is much hotter than any positive temperature.
Jeremiah Myers
>a normal, lava-made sun >-1000 degrees of celsius Kek what a fucking retard
Henry Edwards
Hmmm autism vs fun which one will win? Autism every single time.
Christian Howard
Mustard gas
Evan Bell
You will have a helvetica scenario.
Ayden Hall
It will fit my civic?
Robert Smith
You'd get a sun twice the size at 0oC. It would be a water sun with a crust of ice. The higher pressure below the surface would make the water there liquid.
Samuel Peterson
–273.15 degrees Celsius can't go below that fren it's the absolute zero limit.
Bentley Lee
You posted this on /r9k/ last week, go away.
Joseph Myers
>last week
welcome newfriend
Levi Johnson
im mad bro
Christian Bennett
Lava or gas of fire? Does the sun even have something inside of it? Wait, if we call our star the Sun, and we call the ice a Sun, does that mean ALL stars are Suns?
Adam Smith
the hollow sun theory makes sense if you think about it, where the fuck do they think we got so much lava to build our star? No other place except from our now missing core.
>as long as I say something is a troll while responding then I am not being trolled
excellent 12 year old logic
Charles Ortiz
pls kys
Austin Anderson
Why are there so many newfaggots the past couple weeks.
I know Yea Forums is newfag central, but it seems to have really spiked.
Nolan Scott
>A system with a truly negative temperature on the Kelvin scale ishotterthan any system with a positive temperature. If a negative-temperature system and a positive-temperature system come in contact, heat will flow from the negative- to the positive-temperature system.
They end up feeding eachother. It is called a runaway reaction, consuming all matter it comes into contact with until it is contained producing a massive pressure concussion, or until the matter runs out producing an implosion. Seeing as all space is a vaccum, I imagine it would end up looking exactly as a galaxy does - a concentrated swirling collection of matter being drawn towards the center.
Perhaps this is how galaxies are created, an initial concussive explosion that turns in on itself and slowly draws all matter to its center over billions of years.
But I could also just be high.
Josiah Butler
divide by zero, bra
Evan Ramirez
>a sun made of ice
you were sleeping during your physics lesson were you?
Aight fuggit. I'll bite. For the purposes of this I'm going to make 2 assumptions: Impact is low speed, and ice sun is somehow same density of normal ice.
Also, sun isn't lava its plasma tard.
If the two collided, the massive temperature differential would shatter the ice sun. The fact that the ice is below absolute zero would effectively mean it is in a perfectly crystalline structure and has no motion within its structure. But the collision shock wave would pretty much instantly heat the ice above absolute zero along fracture lines. The ice would rapidly melt and sink into the sun, cooling the sun and lowering heat output significantly. Additionally water is an incredibly good radiation sink which would further fuck up radiation output cause the sun to darken.
Meanwhile, the increase of gravity would jump up by around 70% lowering the orbital radius of everything in the solar system. In the short term this wouldn't do much exactly because the sun is being darkened by the heat sink, but long term it would cause inner planets to interact more gravitationally and would likely lead to disruption. Mercury might get pushed closer to the sun and form a tidal wave along the sun which travels with Mercury slightly increasing gravity and causing a dragging effect which would eventually result in mercury being consumed. (Someone did a model of red giant phase and found these waves would cause orbital decay due to tidal factors which would consume earth. It's likely a similar process would eat mercury). Long term we'll probably see Earth go further closer by slingshot ting Mars out due to it's lower gravity. This could take a long time.
Back to the short term, the huge temperature drop and increased gravity would cause the two suns to mix extremely well. Fusion wouldn't have stopped during the collision, but afterwards it would Kickstart into high gear. Since total mass jumped by around 70%, the sun would hit the limit the of 1.3x solar mass required to switch to the CNO
Wyatt Morris
cycle, which is good because stars of our suns mass cannot fuse elements higher than helium, as a relatively small star. Since the water making up ice would break down under pressure, it would have the fuel needed to increase fusion at a higher rate via abundant hydrogen, as well as plentiful oxygen for CNO cycle. I honestly don't know how the massive amount of oxygen would react with the sun. It would definitely fuck shit up but fusion should still happen. On the other hand it could really fuck up and slow down due to too much oxygen.
But the increasing density and abundant lower number elements means it wouldn't die yet. It would continue fusing at much higher rate increasing radiation output either way.
Earth would rapidly lose all surface water and begin to resemble Venus in some ways. Even Mars would cook. Beyond that I have no idea. The ridiculous amount of Oxygen would just make things difficult to predict. I doubt anyone has modeled it.
Humidifier increases water in air. Dehumidifier decreases water in air. You've just created the most inefficient way to move a bucket of water across a room. Good job.
Ryder Bailey
One final point. The ice sun should have reached fusion on its own due to gravity. But we're assuming the same process which lowered its matter below absolute zero somehow stopped it from collapsing. Since thr only way to reach below absolute zero is stopping all motion. If we didn't obey that stupidity the ice sun would have started fusion on its own. Either way, bigger hotter sun results. We all die.
Levi Harris
Probably just high, but maybe you just got it right....
I don't know, because many of the statements you just proposed are just completely impossible. "But muh pretending" There's just too many things wrong here, you created this stupid hypothetical case, you answer your own stupid question.
Jaxson Wood
This may be lost on you, and will be lost on the whole thread, but the surface of the sun may actually be composed of liquid metallic hydrogen, and the sun itself may be hollow, so your lava sun joke may not be far off. Also, the general theory of stellar metamorphosis proposes that most bodies in the universe begin as bright hot stars, cool down to dwarf stars, then down to gas giants, then down to terrestrial planets, all the while slowly shrinking as they lose parts of themselves to stellar or interstellar winds, wherever they might be, and eventually ending up as dead rocky worlds like the Moon, maybe trillions of years old.
Big Bang theory is shit.
Noah Gomez
You're probably high op. Regardless, watch the first video below, it's only 7 minutes long.
Lol. The only outlandish thing he said is the temperature and an ice structure that large that didn't collapse under its own weight. Lots of things in physics make outlandish assumptions to simplify calculations. Obviously it's impossible, but if you make some admittedly stupid assumptions, you can sort of get it close enough you can make predictions.
Elijah Ward
As far as we know.
Tyler Wright
You're not wrong, but it would violate the second law of thermodynamics as well as the heisenberg uncertainty principle so the probability of us being wrong on this is insanely low. Like 1 in a trillion.
James Perry
UFO's are real [hurr durr] thus their propultion is technically 'Outside the realm of reality'. Physics still (at least in the public eye) hasn't been able to explain it at all. What if everything we think we know is just scratching the surface and yet we have the 'LAW' of Physics that can't be broken. Ignorance much?