Guys I need some advice. I bought a place for myself and got duped, the realtor concealed the fact that the downstairs condo owner smokes like a chimney. It comes up thru the hallway, moldings, plumbing etc. i’ve tried all preventative measures. I want to get this guy out.
He is the type of scummy guy that just refuses to follow rules. Give me some clever suggestions. My laundry room is above his bedroom so I already make noise at odd hours and he goes ballistic over that.
Keep in mind he is an overweight, chronic smoker so anything to keep that blood pressure boiling.
Yes he is hostile and noncooperative. He is going to sit in there until he dies, however he can’t legally let the smoke seep out of his unit.
Eli Nguyen
Why don't you grow up and move out faggot
Dylan Jones
I just bought it so I cant. Secondhand smoke is deadly. I like my place I want to keep it
Matthew Long
>Work hard and save up >Buy a home >Neighbor's smoke is annoying >WELP TIME TO MOVE Jesus dude are you fucking 12?
Jeremiah Taylor
Part of living in condos is dealing with neighbors. If you ask him to change his life in his home, you're a much bigger dick
Xavier Roberts
Right so his smoke is allowed to travel up into my space just because its convenient for him? No thats not how it works. If he wants to kill himself he can but he’s not allowed to kill me in the process
Chase Perry
So he's not allowed to smoke in his condo? Do you really think you're the first person to not like a neighbors behavior in an apartment?
Well there is precedent that smoking is hazardous and he is liable for the damage it causes. Anyway Im looking for constructive solutions to dealing with him, not just telling me to suck it up.
Cameron Foster
If what you're saying is true, that he can't legally let the smoke seep out of his unit - if that is indeed the law in your jurisdiction, then pursue legal methods of compliance.
Speaking as a former condo owner myself, the first thing I'd do is complain to your STRATA or condo board. Tell them what is happening, it is probably against one or more of their by-laws, and they will fine him. If he fails to comply, they can force him to vacate. It's part of living in a condo community; you agree to abide by the rules governing it, and if you don't, you agree to leave.
I respect a homeowner's right to use their unit as they see fit, but when their use interferes with other homeowner's rights to do the same, the line needs to be drawn.
If your STRATA doesn't do anything, then take it to your local city by-law enforcement; smoking in or having the byproducts of smoking seeping into communal areas (such as hallways, lobbies, etc), is against city by-law in a LOT of places.
Justin Allen
Obviously you're a poor faggot if you're "condo" is so shitty smoke passes thru his ceiling and your floor. That's the deal with joint housing. If you don't like it get a nicer place or a house that doesn't have a neighbors attached. Or an air purifier, and a hobby that's not worrying about what others are doing. You only think you know how life works. Here's a hint if you're poor, your housing will suck
Brandon Turner
Obviously YOU'RE still living with mommy, if that's how your understanding of these things works.
Cooper Roberts
I don't smoke but if I did and I was your downstairs neighbor... proove it. Nope I wasn't smoking, no you can't come inside. What are you gonna do? Go thru the trash for cigarette butts and mail with my name in the same bag
Charles Phillips
Get some insulation and stuff it into every hole the smell comes through. Pretty shitty condo design where you have to breathe ANY dirty air coming from the unit below. Expanding foam might help but go easy
Ryder Smith
Architect fag here. You need to create a positive air pressure in your home. Kind of like a low infection hospital room. The idea is that highly filtered air is constantly being pumped into your home. And in doing so, then no external air can come in as the air in your home is constantly trying to get out. Speak to air conditioning salesman, spend a few grand and job's a good-un.
Blake Hernandez
In the United States, the seller is required by law to disclose all known defects of the property being sold. It seems to me that odor from second-hand smoke would qualify.
Connor Williams
Sue him for trespass or private nuisance. Not kidding. Could be a legally valid theory in your state.
Luke Ross
(1/2)
Living in a condo means adhering to the community standards established by the condo management company (where I live, they're commonly referred to as STRATA.) In virtually every civilized country in the world, this is how it is done. There are no exceptions. This is the company to whom condo residents pay a monthly fee in addition to whatever their housing costs are (mortgage, property taxes, that sort of thing.) This fee covers things like maintenance, electricity (for common areas and elevators), things of that nature.
When you purchase a condo unit, you agree to pay this fee to the STRATA company, and comply with whichever rules and regulations they have. You also agree to vacate the premises (although you do not need to sell the unit) should you fail to comply with their orders. If you still fail to comply, then you are in breach of contract and you run the risk of forfeiture of the unit.
Chief among these regulations is the requirement that your own use of your unit not interfere with the day to day enjoyment of other residents. The specific text will vary from one complex to another, because the local residents form the council members who decide upon and agree upon the actual verbiage.
Nathan Sanchez
(2/2)
So let's take your example. You're my downstairs neighbour, and you're smoking down there and you are stinking up my place. I call the STRATA company and file a complaint. Typically, this will result in them sending you a letter advising that a complaint has been made, the specific nature of the complaint, and a prescribed period (usually 15 days) to take corrective action. If you do, and I don't complain again, then it goes no further. If you don't comply, then they will escalate the matter.
They will come to my house, and note the stench of second-hand smoke. They will note that I myself am not a smoker, and they will contact ALL of my neighbours. Not just you. Everyone adjacent to me. They have a right to inspect any unit with 24 hours notice, so it doesn't matter if you say they can't come inside; you signed a document granting them the right to do so before you bought the place. In fact, you couldn't have bought it without first signing said document.
They'll investigate further and find that you are, in fact, the source of the smell. They might then issue a fine for non-compliance - again, it depends on the condo board's by-laws. However, you will be issued a warning and given a period of time - this time probably closer to 30 days - to comply, or face disciplinary action. Some places have a "three strikes" rule, where they will only ban you from the premises if you receive a disciplinary letter (and accompanying fine) 3 times in say, 3 years. Other places won't even give you a second chance; you get one warning, after that you're gonzo.
The point is, if you had any life experience at all, you'd be cognizant of at least SOME of these points. Instead, you're sitting here trying to play the, "bUt MuH pRiVaTe PrOpeRtY", and "yOu CaN't PrOvE iT" card, which smacks of some dumb NEET who talks about property and ownership while possessing none of his own.
