Islam has had it right all along

Islam has had it right all along

>no alcohol/drugs
being drunk/high makes you stupid and is bad for your health

>no pork
pork is the worst kind of meat for your health

>no idoltry
idol worship is bad for the well being of society

>thieves punished severely
criminals deserve no mercy

>can have multiple wives and can buy women to be your wife
I mean what guy doesn't fantasize this?

>can't shave your beard
what's manlier than having a full grown beard?

>no rights for women
women having rights is bad for society because women are terrible decision makers, especially when it comes to men's lives

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porkfat cures cancer you ignorant fuck. You're right on all other accounts though.

Okay pajeet

Women do have specific rights in Islam. It's a misconception that women are not respected they are just a little bit underprivileged due to the reasons you mentioned.

Pork is the meat of the Gods.

That must be why all the islamic countries are doing so well.

It's not like you are literally buying a woman. It's different, you pay the women by "Haq Maher" (mostly money). You could buy women in older times when there was slavery. It was allowed for Muslims to marry a slave. Islam is not harsh it's just the fault of wrong scholars and weird sects who created misconceptions and false beliefs.

Saudi Arabia the birthplace of Islam is rich my friend, envy of the world

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It's no coincidence that there are two towers behind the cube

They were, now they fucked up things real bad.

Bullshit. Half the fucking Qur'an tells every cunt to kill opposers of Islam

lol... they're rich because of oil but all the oil will be gone in 100 years. that's why they invest so heavily and ridiculously in luxury attractions. vegas is a piece of shit and it's surrounded by white trash in shitty suburbs. when all the oil is gone, saudi arabia will be worse.

No, the British Empire wrecked them and the US and Russia fucked them up by giving the slaves guns

Brainlet and soypilled

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Yeah, I mean the line to emigrate to that sandy shithole must be 10 miles long.

Islam is a religion of peace, equality and love

>no alcohol/drugs
Like Jehovah's witnesses Islam is stupid enough to be absolute on this and ignore actual, medicinal drugs. Agree on alcohol/recreational but absolutism is stupid more often than not

>No pork
.No meat is bad for your health if you eat it in moderation as part of a balanced diet. Only idiots think that one kind of foodstuff is absolutely good or bad. Once again absolutism being stupid.

>no idoltry
No idolatry except OUR idolatry. Unfortunately all religions involve some form of idolatry.

>thieves punished severely
Agreed.

>can have multiple wives and can buy women to be your wife
Multiple wives seems reasonable. A secular society would also allow this. Buying people has been agreed to be abominable by every first world society for hundreds of years.

>can't shave your beard
Why does this matter even slightly? Manliness is in action not in appearance, and my beard looks better when shaped as I don't have the best jawline anyway, so in terms of appearance, personally
>what's manlier than having a full grown beard?
Having a well-sculpted beard that lends the illusion of a sharp jawline.

>no rights for women
People in general are bad decision makers. If you support any religion which contains such hypocritical bullshit as 'no idolatry' and such stupid absolutist restrictions as 'no X-food' and 'no personal grooming' then you have made a bad decision.

Peace out.

Have you seen the millions that come to the hajj every year?

Only if you're a goat.

Google what immigration means.

Take away the oil, what's left?

Brits and Russia and us have guns, still not shitholes like sandniggerstan

people end up staying after the pilgrimage kaffir

As an interesting aside, Brits have more nigs per square mile both on average and in their worst square mile, but less guns, and half the murder rate.

In other words, America has a culture problem, not a nigger problem.

>not shitholes
>us mass shooting capital of the world
>brits have massive dentistry issues
>both are controlled by foreigners

How many and what is your source for this information? A cursory search has revealed no numbers about people staying. In fact since the ka'aba is the object of both the Hajj and the Umra, tourism related projects have been REDUCING residence in the holy city. Mecca's population has been decreasing year on year...

Taking the troll seriously

dumb sand nigger

20% of the Saudi Population lives in poverty. So much for being rich.
borgenproject.org/economic-inequality-in-saudi-arabia/

Yeah, that sounds real good, but fuck that getting up at sunrise to pray bullshit and having to pray three times a day.

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it's actually 7 times a day

5 times a day. Source - ima muslim man. It makes you active

Yeah... Some people are super rich the rest are just super lazy and poor. Worst country I ever been. Bad food, bad infrastructure bad mood in general.

According to the Hagira? calandar muslims are still in the 1400's or 600 years behind the West. Having watched a criminal being beheaded on the main square afters prayers on a Friday, I would disagree. Also religous brainwashing.

Have to cover up, testimony is discarded in court, considered property, widowed mother must ask son's permission to go to the store.

Yeah that sounds like they have zero fucking rights whatsoever there bucko. You and the entire religion of Islam can just go fuck right off.

meant to say Riyadh - also if you look at islam as a set of rules to keep ignorant people alive in a hostile desert - it works.

And the millennia they lived there before that, just lucky coincidence.
You stupid fuck.

I am a Sunni Muslim and we think your kind of Muslim is lazy and do not pray enough, therefore you will burn with the great Satan

In Islam its ok to fuck children, so maybe OP is right

Trump's a cockgobbling embarrassment, but he's right about muslims. Keeping your shit culture out of America is good for thr country. Christ, I'm probably gonna have to hold my nose and vote for the fucker.

K

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>no alcohol/drugs
Drugs are awesome

>no pork
Pork is the second best meat

>no idoltry
I agree with this

>thieves punished severely
Grey area

>can have multiple wives and can buy women to be your wife
Am gay

>can't shave your beard
Can't grow a beard

>no rights for women
Meh, whatever. I'm not a woman so I don't care.

Jews or Muslims?
Both are disgusting evils but it is what it is.

As Jesus said "A tree is known by it's fruits".

have a xenophob, war criminal, slave trader with a 9 year old wife as rolemodel

Sand niggers

>testimony is discarded in court
no not really, it's only that 1 man's testimony = 2 women's testimony.
>b-b-but that's sexist women aren't dumber than men.
studies have shown that emotions can alter memory and since women tend to be more emotional they are more prone to this effect, look up "Jennifer Thompson rape".
and so something that islam recognized by islam 1400 yrs ago is only now being discovered...

>no alcohol/drugs
fuck this gay shit
>no pork
and this
>no idoltry
who the fuck cares
>thieves punished severely
only if they're niggers
>can have multiple wives and can buy women to be your wife
ok this makes sense.
>can't shave your beard
soyboy detected
>no rights for women
makes sense

Islam scores a 2.5/7 which is a fail.

Did you even read it user?

>Have to cover up
False, only ones that live in tribes do that.
>considered property
again completely false, islam gave women human rights before anybody else did.
>widowed mother must ask son's permission to go to the store
only in places where there's no security at all, which makes sense cause imagine your mother going out alone to never comeback without you knowing where she was.

False, islam specifically tells to NEVER kill anyone unless you have to within a set of clearly defined rules. the only time islam mentioned killing ppl was when muslims where kicked out from their homeland and had their wives and kids turned into sex slaves

>envy of the world
Hahahahaha

>the anti-muslism user is a democrat
People on this board sure are fucking stupid

>no idoltry
>worship a meteorite in a black cube, make sure they are facing it no matter where they are in the world
They worship a rock. A bit of stone.

>just a little bit underprivileged
That's like saying you're just a little bit of a faggot...you giant faggatron

>no rights for women
Are you retarded? Islam is an inherently feminist religion.

Hello all, I studied Islam, ask me stuff.

Quran.com/4/34

>Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them.

Islam is very sexist.

Quran.com/24/2

The [unmarried] woman or [unmarried] man found guilty of sexual intercourse - lash each one of them with a hundred lashes, and do not be taken by pity for them in the religion of Allah, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a group of the believers witness their punishment.

...

pork isnt bad
u worship a god - how is that good?
criminals should be rehabilitated to return to society and be productive, not "punished severely. Also its the inevitability of punishment, that works the best, not severity
marriage is bad
having a strong chin and a jaw line u dont have to hide under hair
u r lucky not to have been born as a woman
kys

your a fucking genius, best thing i've ever read

This bait is as low quality as my internet
Yea Forumstard

newfag
Islamic flag should be changed to davids star and infidels changed with goyim
oy vey
>both are disgusting evils
yes goy, the muslims are very evil with their morality. Im blessed in these holy lands of Goymerica and I love seeing my women get violated by niggers and preach for my death (the huwhite male) at the joyous of kikes. Yet, despite all this, its the Muslims who are the ones to blame. Not only this, I shall bunch up all of them (Nigger pakis, Palestinians, egyptians, etc.) and pretend as though they all look like that one image of a man calling for the death of all those that insult Islam.
Honestly faggot, there is no argument to just saying "Muslims are evil" if one could even group such different people as Egyptians and Pakis
>xenophobe
>9 y-o wife
what a cucked thing to say.
good goy. I was once exactly in your shoes. Listening to the likes of Sargoy (loves kikes and resents Ethnic nationalism), Tommy robinkike (who has vowed to protect the state of Israel and has fought for their military mind you), Goyvin mcinnes (the race mixing queer) and I made myself convinced that Islam was evil with its "oppression of the females" and this supposed "war-filled text." Though its all taken out of context. These are accounts of wars against those who were in battle with each other. Beyond this fact, look at the Talmud and what it says about the goyim, why is no one talking about that?
Saudi Arabia is a shithole of rich kikes who do the bidding of Israel
You are even less intelligent than you led me to believe. They do not worship the "rock," they only pray toward it knowing full well they are only praying to God.
Literally retarded. Gays are stoned and women are treated as servants.
>equality
fuck off nigger, the only ones that say this are nonmuslims who want to change Islam to some progressive shit- I like it how it is now kys

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>t. sòyboy

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the irony. have you no argument beyond nigger-tier insults? None of my preceding arguments relied on soy ramblings about progressiveness and equality; seems completely unfounded then to say im some snowflake lefty- much the opposite really

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>The [unmarried] woman or [unmarried] man found guilty of sexual intercourse - lash each one of them with a hundred lashes, and do not be taken by pity for them in the religion of Allah, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a group of the believers witness their punishment.
Based. Whats wrong?

it's a religion for backwards degenerates.

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Anyone that believes in the Koran is a subhuman retard

>but there are Jews and other shitheads!
Go blow yourself up

>Anyone that believes in the Koran is a subhuman retard

>>but there are Jews and other shitheads!
>Go blow yourself up
mom im so edgy on Yea Forums

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the sad thing is that Christianity too began this way, but then kikes shaped it into what it is now- at least speaking with regards to Catholicism
ive seen you in many threads kike, your image just screams degeneracy and jewry. Kindly just kys
I only respond to arguments not dogma. Why are those who adhere to the Quran subhuman? Relying solely on feelings to get by on this one?
>blow yourself up
Nah I'll leave that to the mossad operatives and their false flags worldwide

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Say what?

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I'm no Jew, I despise all the Abrahmic religions equally

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Based. user btfo

Kys cuck go fap to trap sissy porn on gif

Im talking mainly about Arab muslims. Showing me one picture of what I am supposing is Indonesia means nothing to me

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that's a cute fantasy

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>I only respond to arguments not dogma
Why?
What's wrong with dogma, hmmmmmm?

>Why are those who adhere to the Quran subhuman?
You have to be a complete retard lowlife to believe in such dogma

while your posting this, goats are going unraped

You must have autism if that is your idea of edgy

>t. Brainwashed brainlet gigasoyboy coomer

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>What's wrong with dogma, hmmmmmm?
are you joking? Youre relying on our common knowledge of /pol/ lingo to argue something thats unfounded.
>You have to be a complete retard lowlife to believe in such dogma
okay epic 360
not an argument, try again kike

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>t. Brainwashed brainlet
The motherfucking irony

Good points.
However I don't have to believe in sandnigger savior #2 to believe all those ideas.

>idol worship is bad for the well being of society
any evidence outside bible stories?

OP forgot that fucking little girls is encouraged

>are you joking?
No you retard

>Youre relying on our common knowledge of /pol/ lingo to argue something thats unfounded.
This doesn't make any sense.
Is this even a response?
What does this mean?

WHAT IS WRONG WITH DOGMA?

>okay epic 360
What?

Doesn't idol worship technically mean shit like celebrities? In which case I'd have to agree because the amount of reverence people place on celebrities, especially female, is mind numbing. Not the user you responded to.

there's no point in arguing against absurities

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half of crap you listed is either retarded or just a fragments, and important parts are omited. do you research before posting shit like that.

untrue. have any proof of this beyond what tommy robinkike says?
>WHAT IS WRONG WITH DOGMA?
ITS LITERALLY NOT AN ARGUMENT. YOURE JUST SAYING THINGS THAT ARE USUALLY NEVER QUESTIONED IN POL. That doesnt make it an argument. Im still waiting for your argument as to why those who adhere to the Quran are subhuman. You cant just say something and expect everyone to take it as holy truth
knew a kike would do this sooner or later. Usually its the bacon and shit one but all the same I suppose. You dont even need to be muslim to see how degenerate and jewish this is

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i agree, but that's the broader definition of idolatry, the kind of explanation your christian preacher gives you when you ask why all the warnings about idols in the old testament are still relevant: "we've still got idols, only it's not sculptures of moloch, it's fame and money etc"

i meant actual idol worship. like in hinduism or ancient greece or viking scandinavia. why is that "bad for the well being of society"?

>ITS LITERALLY NOT AN ARGUMENT

It was a question retard

Are you saying all dogma is /pol/ lingo?

>Im still waiting for your argument as to why those who adhere to the Quran are subhuman
If you believe in this fairy tale shit you are not on the level other humans

>You cant just say something and expect everyone to take it as holy truth
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

AND if you're serious

Let me laugh even harder

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Im so offended as a muslim WHYYY WHYY would you do this. Nooo I cant take this..

No. Try again

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google it, Mustafa

>If you believe in this fairy tale shit you are not on the level other humans
holy fuck amazing argument mate. absolutely brilliant.

great argument Goldstein

ITT Islamishits prove how retarded they are

Stooooppp im so triggered. Someone stop this user hes on fire

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not an argument
say it with me

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You have little argument at all


Calling everyone a Jew isn't much argument

You have no argument sucka

Im not the one here saying muslims are subhuman. seethe harder kikes. No arguments whatsoever.

>no faggots allowed
Sorry OP guess you have to die according to Islam

This

that goes for most of this thread and those niggers with no arguments

>Im not the one here saying muslims are subhuman.
You kind of are though

Well OP didn't have an argument to begin with

I sincerely hope you don't come to this board for intellectual arguments. You'll only leave feeling empty. Everyone here is retarded or so caught up in pretending to be that they actually became retarded.

So far the islam chad is winning. Kikes with no arguments btfo

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I mean, I agree with the wives thing but I’d rather not smell like shit and pray to a nigger 7 times a day.

Isn’t Saudi Arabia on fire right now? lmao

You really think we won't recognize that this is the same fag?

>Buying people has been agreed to be abominable by every first world society for hundreds of years.
Wanna know how much the government values a civilian life that was taken during a time of war? $5k lol.

arguing about the validity of Isalm is as meaningful as arguing in which order
did Snow White suck off the dwaves

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islam is literally a catholic larp and a prank

Do you have a real argument why Islam isn't bullshit?

enlighten us about the link between islam and catholicism plz, dis gon be gd

I thought that the Jews did it, and that Mo' Mo' was in fact a deranged rabbi

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Mr. Goldstein, if you please

Not that poster, but much of it is quite obvious to clearly see if you don't have your head up your ass

catholic heretics would often flee europe for the middle east where the vatican didn't hold much control. those heretics would join up and form their own denominations. islam started as a mix of christian heresy, jewish talmudism and arab paganism.
don't know abou that, but he was in contact with some jews who also influenced early islam.

Who of the Muslims is living according to the prophet and Allah?
Only a little number.
The rich break the law and live against the will of Allah
Show the purity of the religion

no it isn't. islam developed in a geographical context where contemporary occidental christianity could have practically zero influence on it. and catholicism as we understand it today didn't even exist then. the orthodox-catholic splt occured in the 11th century, hundreds of years after islam emerged. and even today, the forms of christianity that survived islamic hegemony in the middle east are often far from catholic, many of them aren't even chalcedonian. so what are you talking about?

>catholic heretics would often flee europe for the middle east
name one example

>where the vatican didn't hold much control
the vatican didn't even hold much control in italy in the 7th-9th centuries

>no it isn't. islam developed in a geographical context where contemporary occidental christianity could have practically zero influence on it.
Contemporary occidental Christianity is derived from the same middle Eastern dogmas and religions as Islam.

>the orthodox-catholic splt occured in the 11th century, hundreds of years after islam emerged.
Also many hundreds of years after the catholics emerged in the middle-east

>name one example
Novatianists and Gnostics were banned from holding meetings by the church and the state.
>the vatican didn't even hold much control in italy in the 7th-9th centuries
The heretics were mostly persecuted by the state as early as the official adoption of Christianity by Constantine I; who wanted to maintain a single, coherent belief system under a single dominant Roman Catholic Church, Europe was a dangerous place for those who did not subscribe to orthodox Christianity and many therefore fled to the Middle East.

ah i see. you're confusing the words catholic and christian. no one with an education would talk about "the catholics" emerging in the middle east, because in 99% of all cases they'd be referring to the roman catholic church, which emerged, you guessed it, in rome

I had a muzzie living downstairs from me. He was a neet pothead.

Atleast he wasn't a cumbrain racist like you
/thread

you're talking about christianity and it's state sanctioned, nicene forms, not "the roman catholic church". get your definitions in order.

nobody but muslims denies the influence of christianity on the development and doctrines of islam

islamic countries with a space program,
,palomar size telescopes
astronomy dept in their colleges & universities
music,,,women in classical orchestras,,,symphonies produced
egypt and jordan,,alone among the ay rabbe nations,in metropolises,are modern in the western sense,,israel,,they are bffs,

You saying it as if that's a bad thing? Do you even logic?

>Europe was a dangerous place for those who did not subscribe to orthodox Christianity and many therefore fled to the Middle East
btw again, name one example. a name, a person. one example of a historical figure, among "many" allegedly, that fled europe to be an unorthodox christian in the middle east.
i think i know what you're trying to get at, but you're mixing it with a lot of nonsense and all i can say is, read a book. or just a wikipedia article on late antique / early medieval christianity in the eastern mediterranean or something

>ah i see. you're confusing the words catholic and christian.
No
Judaism is also part of it as well.

>no one with an education would talk about "the catholics" emerging in the middle east
Yet they did

>because in 99% of all cases they'd be referring to the roman catholic church
But I'm not just doing that

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Islam is shit. I know cause I live in Europe. Few months ago I witnessed a sheep being beheaded in broad daylight in the middle of the street where my kids play outside. Half of all muslims are inbred. I'm telling you they are annoying and retarded.

How do you know he wasn't?
Muslims can be super racist
Just look at the posts in this thread

muslim isnt a race.. try again

I shave my beard because I am not a fucking muppet.

You forgot
>marrying and fucking your direct family members
Whats more manly than that?
>marrying and fucking 12 year olds

Yep
You know it's a shit religion when they have so much dogma they won't let you do something like shaving

>Religion of incels that can't deal with women having free will
>can't enjoy having a honey roasted ham
>can't enjoying a couple brewskies with the bros

You should accept the glory of Kube into your life.

Ave Cubis Necis!

Embrace the divine firepower of preparedness and be ready when the great happening comes So that you may go Innawoods and survive.

Saluto Nex Alea!

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What fucking stupidity.
Maybe you should go back to masturbation Op.

i'll try the unheard of on Yea Forums and give you a sympathetic reading of your confused point. you're using the word catholic to refer to the church that developed under the aegis of the christian roman emperors, the one that eventually became the state religion in its chalcedonian form, which made it difficult for other strands of christians (monophysites, nestorians) to flourish in proximity to constantinople. they instead flourished in places like egypt and other parts of the middle east where the emperors and patriarchs couldn't intervene easily. these versions a) influenced islam doctrinally, and b) posed the problem of a disunited christendom, ready to be taken over by islam.

still, none of this has to do with the vatican, which is where the pope, the head of what we now commonly call the catholic church, lives, and unorthodox "european" refugees to the middle east are still a phantom of your imagination.

>Envy of the world
That's gonna be a no

Isn't it amazing how lucky you are to be born in a region of the world or family that has the one correct religion?

>women are terrible decisions makers

men are to.just ask donald "shut the goverment down because i cant get my wall i promised mexico to pay for"trump

also,there's a reason why you only find islam in 3rd world countrys.because its an uncivilized religion for uncivilized people

See
Nah he was to chill to be racist. He went to the mosque every week and did his daily prayers, but other than that he spent all his time getting stoned (pun intended), playing vidya, and eating.

Are you saying Islam was influenced by the early non-catholic forms of Christianity?

>still, none of this has to do with the vatican, which is where the pope, the head of what we now commonly call the catholic church
No, and of course I DIDN'T say anything of that sort

>and unorthodox "european" refugees to the middle east are still a phantom of your imagination.
I never imagined any such thing
These "Pantoms of my imagination" must be phantoms of your imagination

I suppose nothing I said was understood
All too usual now that Yea Forums is so fanatical

>women are terrible decision makers
when you raise them from birth with the assumption that they are less competent than men, you're not likely to get anything other than that. Women are less competent than men in your culture because you're making them that way.

broadstroke that shit

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England is a 3rd world country. Confirmed.

>Are you saying Islam was influenced by the early non-catholic forms of Christianity?
yes!

>These "Pantoms of my imagination" must be phantoms of your imagination
wasn't this you then:

>catholic heretics would often flee europe for the middle east where the vatican didn't hold much control

?

so, a highly authoritarian religion is good because it serves you personal biases?
cool, bruh.

saddam did nothing wrong and neither did pic related nor bashir. that being said, islam is trash.

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>Alchohol is the reason mankind advanced in agriculture and stopped being nomadic, which lead to other advancements. Try again.
>Pork is delicious, sandniggers just didnt have a way to keep it from spoiling in the desert 10000 years ago. Try again.
>true, so is worshipping an imaginary sky daddy that says you cant masturbate or have sex. Try again.

I dont feel like going on, but in summary all religions are stupid and hypocritical, morality can exist without it, and islam is the most retarded and hypocritical of them all.

Neck yourself.

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Envy of the sand nigger world maybe.

>wasn't this you then:
No, I even specifically stated that I was a different poster than the one who originally compared Islam and Catholics

howbouda:
...single dominant Roman Catholic Church, Europe was a dangerous place for those who did not subscribe to orthodox Christianity and many therefore fled to the Middle East

Are you asking if that was me?

They are clearly saying the same thing as the previous post that wasn't mine, and it's clearly in response to a question on that post, so take a wild guess

the burden of proof is on you nigger.
Islam is based and Id love to see an argument to the contrary. If not that, then simply allow arabs to do as they please in their own lands and stop supporting pissrael in their expansion toward a greater pissrael
true. but your Islam is trash garbage at the end is just personal preference from what I gather. Im not here trying to push my religion onto others and I respect orthodox Christians for their attempts to return to the past without usury and decadency, but Islam is a very good religion in my view.

>all changed now thanks to the west MTV mind control
>no alcohol/drugs
many arab do it:
youtube.com/watch?v=iyKx4iBuqhQ
>no pork
yes but only because it's a customs and traditions not for islam
>no idoltry
the have atheist now
youtube.com/watch?v=8PngV3wtq3k
>thieves punished severely
one or two years and that it no cut off hands
youtube.com/watch?v=qqicyFWjQuI
>can have multiple wives and can buy women to be your wife
yes but if the wife said in the marriage contract that you cannot marry other thin her by the law you can't
>can't shave your beard
not any more they even do western haircuts mostly english
>no rights for women
old news user
now the can drive cars and travel anywhere when they want
and if you hit her you are going to pay a fin of SR50000 that 13,330.00 United States Dollar
pic related
Rahaf said she used to have sex more in saudi arabia thin canada

>thay all Hypocrites and many are Closeted

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>the burden of proof is on you
Nope
You're the one claiming Islam is based

Burden of proof is on you

Have Fun blowing up, it must be a blast.

>islam gave women human rights before anybody else did.
You forgot to include the word [Arguably]. Also, historians may like to have a word with you but that's assuming you give credit to historians at all, in the first place.
>gave human rights.
Islam has no authority over the passing of human rights because it is a non religious right. It can exist outside of the boundaries of religion.
>gave human rights
To what extent? Because 100% human rights would mean that the women in islamic societies in olden times would be more capable than or just as capable, as women in the most egalitarian societies in the world today.
If less than 100%, then can we consider Islam a perfect solution?
Can 100% human rights be ever achieved?

>but your Islam is trash garbage at the end is just personal preference from what I gather.
Yeah, that was kinda harsh but this is Yea Forums so what can you do? I actually when to a mosque last week and talked to the Imam for over 2 hours but in the end decided that Islam just wasn't for me.
>Im not here trying to push my religion onto others and I respect orthodox Christians for their attempts to return to the past without usury and decadency,
Funny you mention Orthodox, I'm trying to set up a time to meet with the Father from my local Orthodox church now for some of the reasons you mention.
>but Islam is a very good religion in my view.
I guess here in the modern world we can pick the religion we feel best fits our needs whereas in the past it was just something you were born into. Have a nice day user.

Sounds ok on paper, but all their views/laws are clearly based on deep-seated insecurities. Possibly the biggest cucks in recorded history.

You're the claimant. Prove your claim you brain dead fish. May the burden of proof burn your back.

maybe if you drink alcohol you would feel more relaxed and won't bomb shit.

The entire Arabian peninsula should be turned into a smoldering sheet of glass. Fuck the pubic-headed sand-niggers, fuck your pedophile "prophet" (piss be upon him).

Im speaking mainly to the niggers who keep saying Islam is evil or subhuman are those that adhere to the religion.

>many arab do it
proceeds to show (((Saudi Arabia))). Funnily enough, Saudi Arabia is the only country I know of that has banned alcohol so those niggers will likely go to jail. This is the equivalent to whites and the subclass of whites who are so fucking degenerate (feminist, anarchists, gays, jews, etc) and devoid of all morality. These kinds of people are resented in the Middle East and are seen as westernized subhumans.

>yes but only because it's a customs and traditions not for islam
false. Its because its written in Islamic text. The pretext for banning such uses of alcohol and pork are derived from the Quran. If you have proof of otherwise, Id love to see it.

2:173;
>He has only forbidden to you dead animals, blood, the flesh of swine, and that which has been dedicated to other than Allah . But whoever is forced [by necessity], neither desiring [it] nor transgressing [its limit], there is no sin upon him. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.

>one or two years and that it no cut off hands
What? There are many cases of capital punishment following mass robberies
bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28851512
bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-21767667

>yes but if the wife said in the marriage contract that you cannot marry other thin her by the law you can't
What bullshit is this? As I remember, with the introduction of Islam, the number of wives allowed was reduced to four wives. And no, the wife has little say or power over the man when it comes to marriage. If the man initiates the marriage and seeks divorce, he must pay her a sum, that is all. In a court of law, it takes two women to testify to match that of one man.

>not any more they even do western haircuts mostly english
youre referring to Iranikikes and westernized shias. Arabs have normal haircuts, fashion is rarely important

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>old news user
>now the can drive cars and travel anywhere when they want
and if you hit her you are going to pay a fin of SR50000 that 13,330.00 United States Dollar
The new SA king is a fucking faggot. His new "progressive reform" has not been met with open arms in SA. My dad lives there and although he said there are more women on the streets, its still very taboo. After the passing of that law, a woman was shot in her car after being seen driving. These westernized laws of "progressive" intent are only a bad thing for the middle east.

ktvu.com/news/woman-shot-killed-driving-hwy-4-in-concord-described-as-lovable-person-

>pic related
>Rahaf said she used to have sex more in saudi arabia thin canada
haha bringing up a shitty story about a nigger that ran away from her family because she was so devoid of morality and was lured by sexual degeneracy of Canada. Not sure where you got the "used to have sex more in saudi arabia thin canada" considering she was going to be arranged a marriage and sex outside of marriage is illegal. Also, the UN and Canada only got involved to push their jewish subversion into the Oriental lands.

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Im speaking mainly to the nigger that said Muslims are subhuman. Read the entire thread retard, or dont reply at all

Wow thanks for the reply, I perfectly respect what you say and understand where youre coming from. Good luck with your rendezvous with your dad wholesome user

>the magic word is WASTAH
if you have it non them can get you sometimes even for murder
>so those niggers will likely go to jail
that guy with the BMW will never go to jail
>false. Its because its written in Islamic text.
yes i know that but the are not eating pork only becuse it's make you a cuckold and that is a big shame on you and your tribe in the arab world
>What? There are many cases of capital punishment following mass robberies
only if you are poor saudi with no and don't belongs to tribe that can have you back
*do you know that they call the thief a wolf as it's a good thing by his tribe
>What bullshit is this?
not bullshit the imams"mofty" in their country said that i don't have the link from twitter
youre referring to Iranikikes
nop i see them all the times they are arab

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>Islam has no authority over the passing of human rights because it is a non religious right. It can exist outside of the boundaries of religion.

If you think that it's even possible to do this by humans you are completely incorrect,
>if a man gives you a right, man can take away that right.
>To what extent? Because 100% human rights would mean that the women in islamic societies in olden times would be more capable than or just as capable, as women in the most egalitarian societies in the world today

>implying that modern human rights are correct.

>Funnily enough, Saudi Arabia is the only country I know of that has banned alcohol
user is ignorant, how surprising.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_alcohol_prohibition
>Afghanistan
>Bahrain
>Bangladesh
>Bhutan
>Brunei Darussalam
>Djibouti
>India
>Iran
>Kuwait
>Libya
>Maldives
>Mauritania
>Pakistan
>Qatar
>Saudi Arabia
>Somalia
>Sudan
>United Arab Emirates
>Yemen

based

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>Saudi Arabia is the only country I know of that has banned alcohol
only on paper ..just don't get caught
youtube.com/watch?v=OofCHhy3-io
and if you are a celebrity you will get off easy

>Im speaking mainly to the niggers
So what?

You made a claim yourself

Can't demand burden of proof on others if you have none yourself

scatophilia disgusts me.

>Read the entire thread retard, or dont reply at all
Check out this asshole trying to tell someone to shut up because they're exposing his bullshit

>if you think this is possible by humans you are incorrect
Goes to show, you didn't read what i said. Dumbass.
>if a man gives you right, man can take away right.
Does not disprove me. Infact it solidifies my train of thought that in religion, which is a man made contruct, the extent to human rights is limited compared to when thinking human rights exists on it's own without needing a religion to exist beforehand.
>implying modern humans are correct
Implying humans in the medieval Arab days (post AD 700) were more egalitarian than now (post AD 2000). I laugh at your pitiful nostalgic hallucination. Humans now, although not having perfect rights in many cases, (especially in muslim countries) have now far higher rights than ever in the history of Mankind. eg Saudi Arabian women. Fuck your orthodox Wahabi ideologies. May rational thinking eviscerate your medieval Arab mentality.

>keep saying Islam is evil or subhuman are those that adhere to the religion.
Every post you make is evidence of this

Okay let me try again.
*Ahem*...
>CHINGGIS KHAN
>THE GOLDEN HORDE &
>SUBUTAI

Don't wet your pants now you retarded Arab degenerate.

It's not bad, it's just old. You have to think about it in a modern context. Hinduism is just another religion.

Too bad they can't decide between flavors of Islam, have no ability to follow a cohesive strategy and have no clue as to how terrorism is to be used effectively. They had a decade of perfect opportunity and they blew it. Proving themselves to be the ignorant goat-fuckers people believe them to be.

>women having rights is bad for society because women are terrible decision makers, especially when it comes to men's lives
At risk of sounding like a tumblr faggot correcting the record, if you're going to go to these extreme may aswell do it with all the peasants. Because honestly there's a lot, and I mean A LOT, of men living in our society that are chronically retarded. Why should they have rights? They make stupid decisions that hamper our progress as civilization and foster attitudes that are harmful to us as a whole. They aren't able to control themselves and listen only to their basic primitive needs disregarding everything else.

It's stupid to point out women and say they shouldn't be allowed because they don't have decision making skills when this applies to 80% of the overall population of the country.