Should we ban guns Yea Forums?

Should we ban guns Yea Forums?

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No. Next question.

>393 million firearms in circulation
>80 million people own them
This won't change if you banned them tomorrow
>buyback (confiscation)
You think that will result in *fewer* homicides with a firearm? Come and take it, chump

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Yes. Rednecks will seethe, but the army will run them down
AR-15s can't stop tanks, APCs, and cruise missiles. Next question.

>11

Habloyim.

Yes. I want already rich & powerful politicians to have more power and less oversight. Its genius

How do you like that BCM QRF rail? Want to buy one of their complete 12.5" uppers with that rail.

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>AR-15s can't stop tanks, APCs, and cruise missiles. Next question.
>What is the Taliban
>What is the Vietnam War

Yeah, Afghanistan's in a really great condition, isn't it?
Also
>spoiled fat americans who've never known war in their own country can even APPROACH the tenacity and skill level of people who've been living in a war torn society for generations
Kek, good one, faggot. I'd love to see it.

armed forces, police and even the FBI took an oath to defend the constitution. no matter who is in power they will not get the majority of these people to go against the second amendment.
OATH KEEPERS ARE REAL...

Correct! I'm gonna tell Luigi to geeet fukked.

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Fantastic condition, safest, wealthiest country in the world.

great gun, or should i say Pistol ;), just buy a suppressor and your good to go, the 12.5" gets more out of the 5.56 than the 10.5"

>the army
The armed forces of the United States are two million strong with all reserve and non-infantry components exhausted, that's 1/40th the number of firearm owners
>tanks, APCs, and cruise missiles
Bases and armories are vulnerable to being overrun because they are scattered across the United States
>Next question
And even if they weren't, the insurrection need only occupy Silicon Valley, Los Angeles, Capitol Hill, Wall street, and everywhere else that would be too costly to level

Doesn't matter, it proves what you said is bullshit. Now leave.

>the army will run them down
Who do you think is in the army moran?

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Yes, what kind of incel has this many guns? He must be some stupid, inbred, white trash hick that expects the government to give him food stamps and then cry about muh immigrants. Like the majority of whites are on welfare they shouldn't be using that money to buy guns to kill minorities.

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No but we should shouldn't allow certain individuals from having guns though. If we banned niggers from owning guns we could cut gun violence in half

Terrorist didn't need guns or bombs on 9/11. But they killed the highest number of people with just tiny knives.

>The armed forces of the United States are two million strong with all reserve and non-infantry components exhausted, that's 1/40th the number of firearm owners
A large fraction of armed forces ARE gun owners

Let's shoot dirty black niggers.

Niggeroooo!

thats not very many guns, where i grew up it was common to have a lot more than that in everyones house.

It's not going to be an entire country, just a bunch of retarded faggots. The majority will comply. There was no revolution when the patriot act passed, gun owning republicans supported their hick president. No revolution when obama empowered the NSA to spy on its own citizens, and they hated obama. No revolution when black people get shot down by state enforcers in droves, or when brown people get put in cages by the thousands.
There won't be a revolution when we come for your guns, and the resistance that exists will be ill-organized and swiftly dealt with.
>NOOOO MY MONTANA MILITIA GROUP OF FAT DUDES PLAYING SOLDIER IN THE WOODS IS EVERY BIT AS ORGANIZED AND TALENTED AS THE IRA, TALIBAN, AND VIET CONG AAAAAHH WE CAN TOTALLY DEFEAT THE WORLD'S LARGEST MILITARY (WHICH WE VOTE TO ENLARGE EVERY FOUR YEARS) IN ITS OWN BACKYARD

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That guy also isn't considering that there are millions of former vets in the US population and that tanks and helicopters can be stolen and driven by those same people. But it's just another BS excuse to take guns away from everybody. Oh the US military is too powerful so why bother having guns. Give me a break.

Fuck u white boy, Imma cum ur race outta existence

It doesn't, you can't handwave the US military.

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ban knives too

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>BCM QRF rail
The 12-o'-clock rail is taller than the 6-o'-clock, which bugs the shit out of me, I had to stick rail panels on it to alleviate my autism

Yes it does, because if what you said were true both of those wars would've ended in less than a week. Yet they didn't. Now go away, you lost.

Fockyoo chocolate man I will send you back to space.

No. We should ban faggots though.

why don't you just go jerk it one more time instead

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Never

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No! We need to ban murder simulator video games! We all know that is the real cause of the violence, keep your filthy libtard hands off of my guns!

Well duh, the taller 12:00 rail is designed to align with the upper receiver rail. Since there's no need to mirror on the bottom, most quadrrails have smaller bottom rails to make an overall smaller diameter handguard. Doesn't bother me at all, in fact I prefer it.

>YOU LOST WAAAAHH GET OUT OF HERE WAAAHHHHH
So start up the fucking revolution, then, faggot, and stop posting bullshit on a tuvan throat singing forum.

Fugq crackass whitey bitch I planted my seed in ur mom

Try to take the guns so we can start it, fag. Your team is the one who wants to destroy this country so badly.

MURDER
DEATH
KILL

Granted, the rail gets toasty and wearing gloves really sucks

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I just want to say to all the ATF agents monitoring this thread, you guys are the greatest federal law enforcement agency for triggering faggots like this and taking away their big-boy toys so they can no longer compensate for their tiny dicks. A truly based organization.

if you flaming faggots really wanted to save lives you'd ban tobacco, which kills FIFTY times more people every year.
nope, you just want control, so fuck off.

Shut up ass licking faggot. Fuck the law.

>ice good atf bad

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There is nothing wrong with my dick! Iook at it!

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Lol how cute, you think the ATF is on your team. The people they monitor the most are faggots like you and other leftist extremists. Your team is the real threat to the well-being of this country.

Army guy here. If the platoon daddy said we were gonna do some goon shit, we would. The generals can suck us soft. Probably 7/10 guys would desert if they were forced to fights US citizens. You guys think we're just mindless drones but we're really not.

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Humm, don't need to take out army, just gungrabbers and their family, the enforcement view will change real quick.
Remember, if it kicks off, don't stay home, go hunting. Having to do swat raids on every home, car, person on foot, good luck.

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They ain't taking shit away, boot licker

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I prefer some Mexicans over rotten pigs. You don't know me, fatboy.

Imagine if all guns everywhere just disappeared. The big guns on destroyers, all the bombs, all the missiles. Everyone's handgun and rifle, every bullet, everything.

What would happen next? Nobody would have a military, all fighting would cease immediately.

So what happens to the world if that ever happened?

This. A rifle behind every blade of grass.

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Arms race 2.0 nibba, the peace would only last as long as it takes to develop arms and fill in the global vacuums of power

Actually police are generally torn on the issue seeing as how they tend to be the ones getting shot at.

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No

>Fuck off boot
Also can atest to this that people are retarded but would not mindlesly follow orders.

i would have to disagree, most cops i know are gun guys and have several AR's in there personal collections. I doubt they would want to turn over there personal weapons.

Are you actually proposing that the military fire cruise missiles against a holdout in an apartment building?!?!?

Wow!!!! Way to get the Jewish slumlords to change parties quick lolol.

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>police
They are not inclined to confront someone who is equally as armed unless the entire department is there with them as back up
>they tend to be the ones getting shot at
They are going to preserve their own lives and chalk up their lack of confiscation efforts to an issue of funding and staff, nobody is about to suggest raising taxes to fund their own disarmament

If every gun disappointed, countries would immediately begin mass-producing them. Niggers in Africa would use spears and rocks to kill each other in the meantime. You are fucking delusional if you think people would stop fighting because they don't have guns anymore.

>I doubt they would want to turn over there personal weapons.
Of course they're not going to turn in their guns. Look at any bullshit gun control law that has been passed recently, they always except the fucking police. Like this ridiculous 10 round limit, but the police are except from it. It's a fucking joke.

It's not a joke, it's not a game. It's them trying to control us with force. Luckily they are still outgunned at this point.

Its sorta funny Police one of the ones that carry a gun most often. Fire more bullets during and issue and normally never hit there target. but no one ever ask them where all the other bullets went.

im sorry you live in a socialist/ communist state like California or Colorado. just buy your standard capacity 30 round mags out of state and bring them back with you so you will have them when SHTF

Exactly! They're wasting their time, we need to focus on violent video games if we want to end mass shootings! These games are teaching our children how to murder with no consequences. They are training simulators and need to be banned!

you havent been to Idaho or Montana much have you? everyone is carrying there all the time and they have low crime rates and seeing a gun isnt a big deal unless your in one of the liberal cities.

another odd thing is every one says they need there guns for hunting that is really not what 2nd admin. says. Its say we have the write to bare army to protect ourselves from our own government. was written that way because of history the brits ounce controlled us.

Depends on the officers involved. Most of the time it's the PD's policy making the call and not the officers.

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No, just ban people

your right, look up the book "On Killing" by Lt. Col. Dave Grossman. he talks a lot about how violence in related to TV and Video games.

Close enough, I live in Jersey and yes it is a literal socialist state. It's fucking ridiculous you have zero fucking rights here.

I know and they will use the police to do it. Anyone who thinks the police are on their side when it comes to gun control is living a fucking fantasy. This is how it works. The democrats can pass whatever bullshit laws they want, so long as the cops are except from it. If you think the police are going to stand up for you, the average citizen you are fucking dreaming.

I have a what if question. If they do and they wont ban a bunch of guns except police officers. Does that mean if that police officer quites there job for better on during that short time they are no longer a police so they need to give it all up.

>Colorado
Standard and high capacity magazines are still perfectly legal to sell as long as they are disassembled and packaged as replacement parts, heh
>California
Didn't you hear the news? Magazines flooded into California during the week that the ban was blocked by a federal judge. All you have to do is claim they were purchased on one of those seven days!

Ban the liberal party would solve a lot problems

The police don't care about civilians. We are their meal ticket. That's why they are the police and the others are civilians.

would be easier just not to be resident of california

Ban drugs as well then we'll have no drugs.

the gun control debate is so simple. Ban bullets but keep guns legal. that way everyone can show off their guns, but they can't shoot them

usally you will find that most police where the criminals and thugs in school they just found legal way to commit crimes

What I don't understand is why nobody takes these bullshit gun control laws to the fucking SC. It just proves that the republicans in those states are full of shit themselves.

found the jew

Actually recent polls show 90% of police think gun control would have a negative effect on firearm related crimes. 85% of police think mass shootings would be minimized or stopped if more citizens carried firearms. Just over 80% of police said they are against buyback and confiscation laws. And 60% of police said they would actively resist taking guns from law abiding citizens if a confiscation law was passed in their state. That doesn't look like cops are "torn" over the issue at all. Nice try Beto.

I would be ok with that I also have muzzle loaders all you need is lead and mold instant bullet

Ban niggers and the gun issue will sort it self out

Yeah, but to be fair the Californians are moving here and fucking up the state. They cant drive for shit.

You need to be an adult for this website kid

Yeah, no guns should be allowed on Yea Forums.

I think you should come back here when you're a few years older, little guy :]

Quit calling illiberal people that

Reminder that Law Enforcement is under no obligation to protect anyone
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia

>relocating to a completely different state in this economic climate
>easier
ummm...

dont mess with that enter city problems us in the country side consider that population control

no faggot they're gonna stay whether you like them or not lmao ppl are like "no no no gunz r baaad they kill ppl and killing ppl is wroooong nooo i don't like guuuns" like stfu if you don't like it then move somewhere else.

Yeah they feel that way about THEIR guns. They don't give two fucks if they're taken away from everyone else.

What about our latino friends?

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>thinking there are different politically parties.
there are elitists and everyone else.

No just take drugs away from the people with a legal right to them, then there is no way illegal drug users will use or sell them. It's so obvious this is the only way.

Law Enforcement is the last one i would call sorta like fire department. most arsonests are fire fighters and most house burn down not get put out

>all fighting would cease immediately.

Yeah, no one ever killed anyone before the invention of firearms

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Yes, because there was no fighting and no wars before the invention of guns.
Are you fucking retarded?

Ban guns they will just find another way to do what they have in mind. and usally it will be worse

They only protect their owns interests and help out their little cop buddies. Sounds like the same shit the Jews did. No wonder they're hated by many.

Oh I know there's no difference, that's why I don't bother voting for state politics in NJ. That fat fuck Christie was governor for 8 years and it was the same fucking shit, nothing changed. Couldn't even be bothered to at least roll back some of the bullshit laws we have on guns. Now we have a literal socialist kike.

what about in the roman times no gun but alot arrows and spears did alot more killing back then that guns do today

Dumb ass Hispanics. Too ignorant to even put the falling teardrop tattoo in the correct location.

lol, look at this cuck. Look at him and laugh.

Libtards forget history so they are doomed to repeat it.

i sorta like my state i have lifetime gun permit and they cant take it back because of a law change

1911 – Turkey disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1915 – 1917 they murdered 1.5 million Armenians.

1929 – Russia disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1929 – 1953 they murdered 20 million Russians.

1935 – China disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1948 – 1952 they murdered 20 million Chinese.

1938 – Germany disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1939 – 1945 they murdered.. fill in your own number because i dont feel like arguing

1956 – Cambodia disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1975 – 1977 they murdered 1 million Educated people.

1964 – Guatamala disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1964 – 1981 they murdered 100,000 Mayan Indians.

1970 – Uganda disarmed it’s citizens, and between 1971 – 1979 they murdered 300,000 Christians.

I'm with you. The .gov don't even know where they all are. Confiscation would be futile.

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confiscation o boy CNN dont have enough reports and news time to cover all the problems that would cause

"Hell yes, we're going to take your white son's nuts, and end white privilege."

"Hell yes, we're going to take your white daughter's ass, and give it to shitskins, mandatory diversity"

If only you hadn't let them take your gun away user........

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But user, we're going to have a "mandatory buy back", how the fuck that is suppose to work though I have no idea. Shit makes no fucking sense.

i do like they buy back programs o makes good way to make money off of old gun thats not repairable and un safe lol

What's a moran?

lol

I just looked up MORAN on wiki: Moran-liberal that want to dictate how another person lives there life.

Gold, summed it up perfectly

That's the problem with buy backs, they're a joke and don't work. This idea youre going to make it "mandatory" for people to sell their guns makes no fucking sense. Especially when they're not even all accounted for. And what's the penalty if you don't sell your gun? These are all questions the kike media refuses to ask because Beto is on their team.

Give me your gun for pennies or I'll fucking murder you and your family

That's how it works

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Hey they had one in a city close one time i sold the old broke down 22 that couldnt get parts for and was junk for $200.00 good deal for me went out bought new 22

I could see it going down this way too. Sell your gun for $20 cracka, or yo ass is going to prison. It's fucking ridiculous.

newfag

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Strayans tried it
>1/6th compliance rate
Kiwis tried it
>700 out of 1.5 million surrendered
Haha, grabbers ain't shit

if they want to take mine they better bring couple trucks one fore the gun and the other incase they need to carry out other things

All the seething in this thread.
I own only Glock pistols they're insanely reliable never had fte,ftf,or light strikes their perfect.
The ergonomics are meh,the grip is nothing special.
It has the highest capacity for full sized pistols,parts are cheap and easy to replace.
And probably the biggest reason price point to performance.
A new glock gen 4 is $200
New Beretta 92fs$1100
New CZ-75$1500
New HKvp9sk$2000

Its robust and as reliable as more expensive pistols on the market.

But that's for one country. We're talking about hundreds of millions of guns. They aren't gonna give you anywhere near $200 dollars. You'll probably get like $5 per gun.

hey is its 20 i can by new box shells for the bigger one lol.

Can you guys hurry up and ban guns already these threads are tiresome and the rest of the world is dying to see amerifats in there mobility scooters with RPGs, taking on the might of the US military seriously there is no bad outcome from an American civil war its just gonna be so God Damn entertaining.

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ok sorry I need get off here anyway got couple guns to clean

but think of all the lives saved!

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you have to have some sorta of respect and also population control other wise all these idiots will someday get wild hair and want to move out of city into the country side.

You'll be glad we still have guns when we have to save your asses from sharia law in 30 years.

Now watch some kiwi dumbfuck come in here and say, but muh gun deaths

it appear australia might be having an ammunition shortage here lately

Yeah cos thats gonna happen amerifat civis coming to another country to free them from something that is never going to happen. Go eat taco bell and polish your toys ameritard

not related, but why are Glocks so popular? they're not noticeably cheaper than better guns, they're awfully ugly without having 60% of their stock parts replaced. they've got horrendous QC. is shilling for them really that powerful? do gun shop owners make so much off of them compared to other guns?

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All the seething in this thread.
I own only Glock pistols they're insanely reliable never had fte,ftf,or light strikes their perfect.
The ergonomics are meh,the grip is nothing special.
It has the highest capacity for full sized pistols,parts are cheap and easy to replace.
And probably the biggest reason price point to performance.
A new glock gen 4 is $150
New Beretta 92fs$2100
New CZ-75$2500
New HKvp9sk$3500

Its robust and as reliable as more expensive pistols on the market.

>that is never going to happen
It already is happening. Just like how the UK got fucked out of Brexit, and they can't do a fucking thing about it because surprise surprise nobody has guns. Now Scotland is going to leave the UK because they're tired of the bullshit.

That's just we are real hard cunts and don't need guns to kill motherfuckers. They were banned due to a mass shooting which hasn't happend since, unlike the daily reports of schools being shot up in America

Because they work if your not a limp wristed faggot.

Are you trying to troll, or are you actually a fuckwit?

Are these supposed prices jokes?

So much knowledge about my country and how Sharia law is taking over got any examples. You should use your gun on yourself, you know put them to good use

Live in my country we have 16 year old murders who choke people to d3ath and melt them in wheelie bins. The chart is of homicides not "Shootings" it was a adiquiet response to a retarded post.

Oh so you live in the UK? No wonder you're so fucking butt hurt. That country's decline is directly turned into the browning of the population. Every since guns were taken, you fags have less and less rights. Hence why you want us to give up guns so badly here.

I'm a fan of totalitarian dictators and genocide, so hell yes. There's literally no other reason to ban guns, but it checks every box that's important to me.

yeah,and the army will take the side of the gun owners.instead of the communist who gave them orders to "run them down"

>hurr durr glok bad
-limp wristed pussy

>it's okay to murder lots of people, as long as there are no mass shootings!
kek, the actual irrational state of the left

Nope, I live in a country where I personally own 4 firearms yet we don't have school shooting daily
Try again faggot

It's ok to have fully automatic weapons even if those weapons are used to mow down school children.

>the actual irrational state of the right

>its okay to pass gun control laws,as long as your a republican.go trump!

kek,the actual state of the right

Also you can still own guns in the UK you dumb fuck

hey retard,donald trump is as ant gun as you are

>My country
>UK
>Owns 4 guys

Sure you do achmed

The only one you got wrong is about Germany. Citizens were not disarmed but required to have a gun. The only ones disarmed in 1938 we're Jews and other non-citizens.

Sure he is thats why you can still buy guns without a background check.
Next

>Also you can still own guns in the UK you dumb fuck

>The United Kingdom. According to an English rifle and gun club legal center, any person possessing a firearm in the U.K. must posses a Shotgun Certificate or a Firearm Certificate. Machine guns, pepper spray, semi-automatic, and pump-action rifles, and any firearm that has a barrel less than 30 centimeters in length are prohibited.

WOW, LAND OF THE FREE FOLKS

Australia fuck tard
You can also own multiple guns in the UK fuck the amount of uneducated cunts in America is astounding

Thanks for proving my point.
Guns for hunting what more do you need.

SeeFucking lying 3rd worlders. That bans the vast majority of guns. But you think because you can still buy a fucking musket you have gun rights. Shut your stupid ass the fuck up.

>Guns for hunting what more do you need
>GUYS WE CAN STILL OWN MUSKETS
>AND HUNTING
>WE ARE FREE GUYS
>FRRREEEEEEEE

Trump is no defender of gun rights, but nice try.

I dunno, but we should ban niggers first.

Get your priorities straight.

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After looking at that trainwreck, I think we need to ban plastic surgery and spray tans

yes please

Ignore that fucking kike. He says the same thing in every fucking thread. But his team passes gun control at the state level he doesn't say shit about that.

Man it's so hard to argue with inbread hicks, seriously cannot wait for the gun restrictions to come in and watch all you big talking incels try to rise up and get wiped out its gonna be glorious

My man, ain't nobody taking shit. The second the liberals try it they will get their shit pushed in. If you think states are just going to sit back and let a bunch of kikes from NY and California take everybody's rights away you must be smoking that fucking crack.

Damn look at all them muskets avaliable at the store less that 15mins from my house...

Your inability to comprehend 3 lines of text is scary no wonder you need a room full of Full Autos. Like I said I can't wait for the ban so there IS the chance for an altercation (that means disputes, arguments, gun fights) where dumb fuck like you who want to rise up will get slaughtered by superior tactics and firepower.

Does anybody really believe background checks and mental health reform will stop mass shootings? If more guns meant that you're safer then the USA would be the safest country on Earth. Spoiler alert- its not

The purpose of the 2nd amendment is not to protect hunting. It's to protect the right of the people to remove the government if it becomes tyrannical.

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Lmao@cuntservatives

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Yeah I know, but you only seem to want to exercise that right if they take your guns. Your country is going to absolute shit but no action taken. You cite the second amendment its not why you collect guns and if it is then fucking act instead of posting on an image board... Oh i guess you guys are acting pretty often slaying those school kids, movie goers, concert goers is really sticking it to the government.

See

What point are you even making here, you motherfucking moron? Gun deaths aren't even in the top 10 leading causes of death in this country, and that's in spite of all the niggers we have killing each other.

Look up the Bundy ranch incident or the Oregon nature preserve incident. That is only two of the recent cases of gun owning citizens backing down the government.

how can you ban something that rhymes with fun

>Bundy ranch
Didn't all of those people end up getting arresteed?

Mass shootings are very rare. You know not.. drug overdose, obesity caused deaths, deaths due to car accidents.

So lets make it illegal to use drugs.. shit that doesnt work at all. Lets ban bad foods starting with alcohol. oh shit that didnt work either. Well we can ban cars. We will save 100X more lives by stopping the use of vehicles!!!!!

No, and nobody took his cattle either.

Thars true if there is something Americans love more than guns its stuffing their faces with burgers and twinkies and suffocating in their own fat on their lazyboys.

My points? I guess, that regulation isn't a bad thing, using the 2nd amendment is BS you will never rise up, the regulations in my country and many others are a good move you don't need fully automatic weapons.

I know it will fall on deaf ears tho your set in your ways, personally I love guns, I love hunting, I love target shooting. I just don't need a fully automatic weapons to do it.

Very rare only once ever 12 hours super rare.

Your inability to understand anything is amazing, you don't need a ban you need better gun laws that ban some weapons but still allow you to own others. This is what countries who don't have school shootings do and it works a treat.

Yeah you love guns, my fucking ass. It's obvious as fuck you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. The fact you're calling them "fully automatic" tells me everything I need to know, to how fucking ignorant you are.

I don't love guns. I know about the basic as I think its an important right. I strongly support every citizen who has had some training should own one. Clearly understand the responsibility. I honestly would push to teach it in schools. Understand how to purchase one and the laws around it. it is a huge rights in this country to protect.

I always find that most people who oppose guns are typically completely uneducated about them. I am talking in the use AND current laws about them.

Side note I am working on my conceal carry. Thinking of getting a Walther PPS. We shall see.

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No worries buddy, maybe update Wikipedia and known nomenclature then because full automatic is a subtype of firearm along with semi automatic.

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they are already banned here, and shit have not changed a little bit

people who wanna ban guns

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Name a country with a gun ban that is doing better then it had? I am talking OVER the global 1st world decrease in violent crimes that has been happening for the past 10-15 years or so?

I think London is still the best example. They cant ban anything fast enough there and crime is through the roof.

You also have places like Finland and Canada with huge guns per capita percentage and they are no violent.

To me this is a cultural issue. Its like school shootings. What is one major common factor in the top school shootings in the past 10 years.. Not guns, not the type of guns, not if he legally owned them, not video games, not music... ALL but 1 came from broken homes raised by a single mom. And no one will talk about that.

Those people are ignorant and think laws will stop criminals from buying them, even though they don't. Or they're leftist cunts who lived in uber safe towns so they "never needed a gun", and don't understand why someone else would. They think only cops should have guns, even though it's been ruled repeatedly in court they have no obligation to protect anyone but themselves. For now anyway, eventually they'll want the police disarmed too after they take everyone's guns.

I agree the culture around guns in my country is mostly negative, even when I explain they are used for hunting that ussually causes more discussions. I think the gun is a great tool, I just don't think certain subtypes of firearms should be avaliable to the public as there is really no need for them.

no guns are fun

Lets ban you

We should ban fat and or stupid people. Guns don't lower the survivability of our specie

Always a debate point for me on second amendment. Who do you trust more? The government to protect your home and property? Or yourself?

Most wont answer and deflect. Which I think is sad.

You're never gonna ban guns. What you mean is should we enhance gun regulations. Maybe but it's not gonna do much.

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I have zero faith in government's ability, or even desire, to protect anybody. Most leftists aren't going to defend themselves against their pets anyway, so that's likely why they don't answer that question.

What? Brass in the face? That sucks. But the vid I was responding to was literally a video about limpwristing that would be valid for any semiautomatic handgun.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limp_wristing

Firearm deaths were already falling in australia prior to the ban so this chart doesn't show the full picture.

>Law stops gun shop from selling weapon
>Weapons no longer manufactured for mass productions
>only people left are legally bough responsible gun owners
Criminals will still buy them, from whom?

the huge surplus of now illegal and expensive firearms that swell the blackmarket that has now been created

I don't have guns to protect myself because if someone broke into my house due to the regulations of my country the most they will have on them is a blunt or edged weapon (statistically proven) of which if I used my firearm on would be excessive force.

Most of the criminals with guns in my country aren't doing home invasions rhey are carrying a weapon to protect themselves from other criminals. And if they use the to carry out murder on other criminals well that's a risk you take.

This is mainly due to the inaccessibility of firearms to people with a criminal history and diagnosed mental illness the regulations around owning a handgun or any other firearm.

Because only the US produces guns in the entire planet. Fucking dumbass.

Hahahaha ok ok, classic denial no worries

Oh so you don't have laws on importing weapons?
You don't have a customs department dedicated to stopping this? I guess every low level criminal has access to these international gun smuggling rings.

Kys

Why of course. The police will protect us and hunting isn't necessary.

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Great logic there faggot. How do they get drugs and other shit they're not suppose to have? You wanna help break that down for us chief?

Guns are for tiny dicked faggots that can't solve their problems with their fists like men do. Fucking pansies.

Your right no one works to stop that at all.
Maybe you need better law enforcement?

Valid points but narrow in spectrum. My home invasion 20guage shotty in my bedroom has 1 non-lethal rounds, 2 birdshot, and 4 slugs in a case by it. Order of intensions may vary but if he has a gun. Ill load a slug and take him out. He is unarmed but far bigger then me, I will use a non lethal rounds. Not an issue for me.

I would talk about things like natural disaster, marshal law, or even government tyranny. All of which at some point you will want to protect yourself and your family. In another thread I was debating this the other day. hurricane dorian went through the Bahamas. They had to form a militia to stop the looting. In that case I would for sure defend my family from that. Again many GOOD reasons to own a firearm.

the BTF ejection pattern is the symptom of the problem that also exasperates the failures to feed or extract in a "limp wrist" scenario

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Oh look, another anti-gun person talking about dicks and nothing else.

We'll, if you didn't have such a small dick and liked to play army men with your little friends, there wouldn't be a problem.

also consider that 80% polymer Glocks In Name Only completed with certain tools don't have that problem. that is, when the QC is 100% in your hands, using 0 Glock brand parts results in guns that work as intended

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>How do communities watch for each other?
>What are bows and traps?
Condensed all you'd like, you're still a tremendous pussy faggot. Use your guns on yourself.

I prefer the drugs and guns

That's the only thing they can say, because they have no real argument. They love to think they're "tough" for not owniing a gun. Same type of dude that gets his ass beat in a bar or a road rage incident.

Yeah look I can't argue that if your invaded is armed you're better off being armed too, but that situation is only possible due to the extremely lacked laws regarding gun control. If a new regulation was put in place it wouldn't fix things over night or even in a few years but it's a step in the right direction and someday in the future you kids and there kids won't have the threat of armed invaders.

As for natural disasters etc its a valid point but in those times it really is the role of the police and other goverment parties Army reserves etc to step up and stop the problem. Not possible in smaller countries but in the US and other first worlds we have the capacity to do that.

Please, like you cowards wouldn't hesitate to pull your gun first. You couldn't bear to take a shot to the jaw, it might mess up your pretty little face and the guys at the truck stop wouldn't want you anymore.

this

Yet the overall homicide rate stayed fairly flat. So it had no effect.

Oh so you buy your guns illegally? So your part of the problem and a criminal good show.

Whoever bans guns is simply signing their own death warrant.

It's almost like they don't have dicks, or balls, or their metaphorical equivalents

Whatever you say kid. Keep thinking you're tough shit out there in the real world. Somebody will show you what happens to tough guys, and they won't need a gun to do it.

Lower gun deaths = no effect

Wow much logic

2 mass shootings since 1996 the new regulations did what they were supposed to do. It wasn't an attempt to curb gun violence it was a successful attempt to stop MASS SHOOTINGS, which it did, side not also lowered gun violence and has continued too since.

And you keep hiding behind your gun and staying in your safe space. This county is a nation of cowards and man children.

Why the fuck would I buy guns illegally when they are legal? I buy the drugs illegally fucknugget. And if you ban the guns, then I’ll start buying them illegally.

You just shifted how people died. It's almost like people murder people, not guns. Amirite?

He doesn't buy anything, legal or not, because he's a fucking child

I said you need better law enforcement to stop illegal imports you said nah I prefer guns and drugs. A logical conclusion from the posts would be that you purchase both illegal drugs and firearms from criminals.

Yes. As in I theater them than more immigration police. Jesus you fucking zoomers are dense....

I prefer them

The best compromise is extending the National Firearms Act to all guns, where all weapons after 2019 are to be registered, taxed and permitted. No exceptions.
It's a fair trade.

>It's a fair trade
lol no it fucking isn't

That would be placing an undue burden on the average citizen in terms of the 2a. Something like that would be shot down in court within a month.

Why not? Because you can't play Wild West Outlaw any more? Because you realize you suddenly live in a society with obligations?

You kids and your cherry picking.
The regulations weren't to stop people commiting homicide people have been doing that since life began... it was to curb gun violence, which is what it did. Again 2 mass shooting since 1996 I'd call that a success

Not really. How much are people paying for weapons anyway? Upwards of $1000s of dollars. Another $500 and a registration process is not "an undue burden," hell the whole thing could be done on payment plans to expedite need like for people hunting to survive. What's wrong with it?

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fucking 10/10, idiots won't listen to this

Great idea.
A ban or buy back won't work gotta focus on the future

The effects of rape are felt for a lifetime by the victim. So it’s a fuckload longer than 30 seconds.

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You two should meet up and blow each other between vaping

imagine believing this just because you read it on Yea Forums
explain how that's any different from antivax moms
>protip: you cant

$1000?? user you clearly aren't the demographic that should be deciding or suggesting gun law. Most entry level long guns are going to be $300-600 depending on the type and caliber. Forcing someone to pay a registration fee thats almost double the price of the firearm is insane. Few, if any dealers are going to allow customers to setup a long term layaway plan. All you'd be doing is driving business under.

Just ban guns from negroes between the ages of 14 to 40 yrs old and Half of ALL gun deaths would end. (But since the Nogs typically just kill other Nogs, maybe let them keep their stolen guns)

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Gun shops going under what a shame

How do you deal with all the non nig nogs shooting up schools, church's, movie theaters, concerts?

The National Firearms Act is unconstitutional and needs to be repealed.

>Upwards of $1000s of dollars
Lol, you're not a day over 12 are you?

$300-600
is still a lot of money
people buy trucks that are $20,000
this is a stupid argument.
You don't want guns to be tracked. Just say it.

statistics expert puts the resistance at about 7 million fighting gorilla style

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Shut the fuck up gun troll

>A new glock gen 4 is $200
No, it's not. They sell new for about $500 retail. An FFL might get you one for $450. Fuck outta here.

No it isn't, user. No SCOTUS has even bothered in the 80 years since the NFA was passed. Shut up.

I'll take that to be a no. Next time let the adults do the talking kiddo.

This. Anons are actually arguing that guns are cheap? People still buy them.

>No revolution when black people get shot down by state enforcers in droves, (for pulling guns on cops)
or when brown people get put in cages by the thousands (by Obama)
>There won't be a revolution when we come for your guns, and the resistance that exists will be ill-organized and swiftly dealt with.

ever visit the real world?

Jesus fucking christ fuck off trolling faggot gunfuck

>the nigger did it
>not Trump
>Trump is a hero
>Obama was a NIGGER
>NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER
lol

Lol this tweet is so redundant if you had a buy back it wouldn't affect real hunters their guns would still be legal unless the US made some sort of crazy policy. Every country who has instigated regulations and buybacks still has a hunting population who hunt with firearms.

That faggot is shooting reloads.

Any gun law past the second amendment is unconstitutional and therefore illegal. The second amendment does not say shall not be infringed except for...
That is why some politicians like Rand Paul is trying to get it repealed.

Requiring gun registration does not "infringe" on your right to bear arms.

Rand Paul is a dipshit who should get beat up again.

Why do you have a picture of a tiny ass dick on your computer user?

But the second amendment has nothing to do with hunting. It is specifically for control of the government and overthow of government if necessary.

he's actually shooting fresh 115gr fiochi

He's intentionally limpwristing it to make it fail. The gun operates perfectly several seconds before this clip when he holds the gun correctly.
Someone just selected this clip to troll Glock owners.

No it isn't. It's for the defense of this country. Which the Armed Forces supersedes. Militias are not required in this country.

Registration is the first step to confiscation. And the NFA does more than that because it bans whole groups of people from owning guns.

so do you think we should make drugs illegal so no one would overdose on heroin?

I don't necessarily disagree with that wiki article, but it's written out of thin air with no citations.

>Registration is the first step to confiscation
it's actually the best compromise. I'd take the deal. Because you're not going to win this by threatening violence. You're going to evolve socially along with the rest of us, and we'll all win that way.

What does the first part of the amendment say?

It sets the conditions for how the right shall not be infringed. Registration fits within those conditions.

incorrect, he experiences a 1/3 weak ejection rate when he "holds it correct." slide&frame fitment have been a HUGE problem for Glock QC ever since the beginning of Gen 3. the failure rate of glocks as they reach the 1000 round mark is a well known problem that's simply become under reported and not quite fixed in gen 4 and gen 5 as new owners have simply come to expect it and have to COPE hardcore.

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For USA
There are billions of firearms in circulation that even doing a registry would take decades. The current registration is mainly on paper and just recently got approved for microphish film. Not to mention that for years it has been grossly underfunded. So locating firearms for compliance is insane.
So what youd be asking for is a straight outlaw or a protected right.
Lets compare that to something that is not a given right; private automotive ownership.
Banning that would mean forced public transportation, less traffic , more scheduled travel routes, far less accidents, police could focus more on criminal activity, and since the vehicles have a registration the process could be phased and executed. Yes i realize it would take decades.
Yes I realize that the public would be furious. But youd lower the amount of deaths per year far more than firearms and youd lower emissions to help save the planet.

Youre not going to do that because the mass vote of people dont want that. Billion dollar manufacturing companies would tank and cease to exist. You would lose so many jobs.

Sensible gun control is possible. I havent seen any person present it that has seriously learned how guns operate of how ownership fully works. If you dont like assault weapons put them on another 10year no sale order. Give current owners the opportunity to
A)sell back to government
B)hand over to police
C) or keep pre order ownership

Yes , this will not stop sale and distribution illegally of firearms. Laws have never completely stopped illegal drugs. But, a law is in place , and if you are caught illegally selling you would face punitive outlined charges.

This all comes from sensible thinking. I highly doubt i will find anything to match from an anti gun advocate.

There is no compromise when come to the safety and freedom of my family. It's not a threat, it is a promise.

Requiring that you register your weapon and pay a permitting fee isn't threatening you or your family's safety, user. Where do you get these delusions from?

I have an idea, how about you take this "compromise" and shove it up your fucking ass? You people have zero interesting in compromising shit and just throw this bullshit around when it comes to what YOU want and other people's rights being taken away.

Until politicians stop refusing to look at the true data as to who is really committing gun crimes, I'm not voting for shit. The constitution was created by the white man FOR THE white man. Niggers were never intended to be able to possess firearms.

>14 to 40 yrs old
Curious what you think happens at 41. Niggers between 14 - 18 usually are killed in a gunfight with police because they don't understand how to use a pistol.

>Where do you get these delusions from?
Directly from your team, since they do exactly that everywhere they gain power

You assume the entire army will enforce a blatant violation of the constitution that they swore their lives to uphold. Sure there would be some blind order followers, but I'm betting there are far more that would refuse to fight their fellow citizens than you think. Do you know how many members of the armed forced privately own guns themselves? The answer is most of them.

$20k trucks earn wages.
$300 long guns put meat in freezers.
Taking $500 from either of those is not an option. I know you're trolling but just saying.

>your team,
oh it's this insufferable dipshit again

Yes, because now they know who owns what, you dumb Hitler fuck. Do some history, dumb ass

"Being necessary for the defense of a free state", which goes along with" in the course of affairs of free men to abolish the government"

And yet people buy those things
including guns
not really accepting your excuses
it's either this
or outright bans on weapons used in mass shootings.
I'd take the deal, user.

Yes, your team, does this trigger you? Because there is NO individual thought coming from your side at all

I'm being trolled, right? Why does it need citations? Limpwristing is a real-world verifiable thing that can happen to any semiautomatic autoloading firearm if used incorrectly. If you loosely grip a gun with one hand it is probably going to fail.

If it's not about taking guns then why is it necessary to have them registered in the first place? You realize this is a complete contradiction right?

Right. The 2nd Amendment was written before the Army was created by Congress. You are correct.
The 2nd does need to be repealed and re-written.

>your team,
user this is cringe
your insistence on using this term means I shouldn't take anything you say seriously

anything

Because guns are a problem in this country. We could take them, or we could start tracking where they're going and who is getting them.
I'm OK with this.

Even if it does you cucks are never going to exercise that right. Too much fucked up shit has happened that you have allowed and I sincerely doubt many would actually "revolt" if gun laws changes.

But I and rest of world look forward to it if you do it would basically be an eugenics in action wipe out the retards to make way for the future.

>it's either this
>or outright bans on weapons used in mass shootings.
And hence, the problem exactly right here. It's either full blown gun control or nothing at all. This is why we don't bother with you people anymore. You wanna give up all your right move to fucking China then. Otherwise you can suck my dick.