I'm considering joining a sugar daddy dating site. I have 70k salary, 20k savings, I'm around 5/10, 30 years old...

I'm considering joining a sugar daddy dating site. I have 70k salary, 20k savings, I'm around 5/10, 30 years old, decent weight, and not autistic, just lazy. I've done prostitutes before but the quality is usually shit.

Anybody tried it before? Recommend? Advice? Gonna dump some porn to bump for a few minutes

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Curious about this too.
Similar situation, 41 y/o about 100k annually, dating someone but would like to fip my toes into the sugar daddy thing but iffy about the sites.

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What the hell is the bee pic for, lol?

You're not rich enough for a sugar baby unless you get a dirt poor ghetto bitch.

Yeah I use them almost exclusively to date anymore. Not interested in girls my own age. Probably fucked 50 different girls this way. Ama.

Lmao. Can't tell if ur 12 or retarded

One question. Why do u lie on the internet?

>batman porn
>looks better than any batman movie
WTF HOLLYWOOD IS SHIT

how do you establish a pay schedule and for what? also whats a good site

Just post an ad in the appropriate fetish dating apps

Always thought about it myself, on longer business trips of more than a week something usually happens organically, but on shorter ones I've always been tempted to just proposition a low-grade but hot instathot. There are literally thousands of girls as fine as Alexis Ren who just aren't as good at promoting or landing traditional modeling gigs. I'm sure if I offered Belle Delphine 5k for a long weekend somewhere, earlier in her career, she would've taken it. A lot of the sugar daddy sites wont let you use an alias or falsify certain parts of your profile, which is obligatory for me because I'd hate for some clever girl to get the idea she could blackmail me by threatening to tell my firm what I'm up to. I'm not sure they'd care anyway, but I'm the paranoid type.

I just wonder who's more jaded, middling Instagram "celebrities" or girls who actively use sugar daddy sites. The other option is just posting the same proposal on /soc/ I guess...

70k ain’t enough man. They will run you dry in a heartbeat. You’re better off just sticking with prostitutes at this point.
More chances with 100k.

Isn’t seeking arrangement the standard sugar daddy site?

Sugar Daddy/Baby is a fetish.
> guy gets off on spending lots of his money in an attractive girl
> rarely leads to sex
> girl likes financial play
These aren’t prostitution sites (for the most part) and the girls are there for the money. It’s almost like people who get off on blackmail.

Seeking is by far the best site. And you just have a conversation with them about what they are looking for, what you're looking to spend, how you prefer to do things, etc. You're really in the driver's seat.

If you didn't like prostitutes then you aren't going to find much better quality on SD sites.

Find a good quality escort site if you are so well off... if you are paying less than $300/hr you are getting crack whore tier women.

That's what I've often thought too, the only tricky part is if you actively try to establish that you'll need to fuck themif they want to get paid, you'd get jebaited by any profiles that are just LE plants.

My thought with propositioning Instagram hoes was a certain amount up front and a "discretionary bonus" at the end of the same amount, the same thing we get baited by at work.

Is it possible to just offer a large sum for a one time thing, or does it have to be recurring? I don't really want to long term sugar daddy thing, just a 9/10 girl I can't find from prostitutes.

This.
It's a cuck fetish for ridiculously wealthy old men, usually Jew bankers, Jew judges, etc, that don't even have a working penis
>pic related
>great movie btw

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I'd say about two thirds of girls are fine with a 1 time thing. A lot of times they'll say something like "no p2p" or "not looking for short term" to let you know they aren't interested. It's all about how you approach them. They don't want to think of themselves as prostitutes so you have to stroke their pretty little heads and make sure you tread carefully.

SeekingArrangements seemed alright.
I tried to join, but I'm not tall enough probably.

if sex isnt implied, can one assume a high end sugar baby often charges less for a date than a high end prostitute? with the understanding that there could be a quid pro quo if the circumstances arise later

Real life SB here, AMA

Sites are ok but scammy. Dont proposition on anything like instagram, no self respecting SB will respond for discretionary purposes.
Best places to look are Twitter, Reddit, and Craigslist

pic related?

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Dude, there are bars where girls pretend to keep you company and are interested in you (think like a gf experience) only for the cost of the drinks.

Do you take it up the ass?

Alright, I'll bite. What subreddits, what craigslist category, and what twitter tags?

Location?.. I guess the rest is in its place

It’s just a picture of some bees. Enjoy it.

Timestamp and tits or gtfo you fat faggot bastard

im aware.. and not interested in being a sd, jsut curious how it works

I just wanna pay $500 for a 10/10, where can I find a 10/10 for money?

Got emails? I can hook you guys up personally if you want.
I'm a depressed loner who can't find a man and too broke to afford college. I'm not high maintenance, bitchy, or emotional, just want someone to make me feel loved even if it isn't real.

for black men only xoxo

You post this on /doc and you’re going to end up with a girl with extreme psychosis or a drug addict or both

>self respecting sb
Honey, you abandoned self respect the moment you decided to fuck gross old men for money.

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If you can afford it and get enjoyment out of it, I say go for it. I've done it a bit with girls I've met on FB and it is definitely a thrill.

>Ash too, Ash
What did he mean by this?

if im in the mood

r/sexsells and r/sugarbaby

canada

I pick who I meet, and often times we don't even have sex. its about the relationship

if you want sex, hire a prostitute, they're cheaper

standby user

Are you able to afford the perks in life with the revenue from those SDs

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Ah Canadian goose... Not interested.. Afterall not everything that flies is edible

Can you take a proper, hard, spanking with a belt?

No? Okay back to the drawing board

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Ontario?

You need to get the Tinder, Snapchat/ Instagram. If you live near a college you have a gold mind. Ever since doing that, I've spent a max of $200 for a "date" which included dinner and fucking all night. Some don't even make me pay, they just like going to nice dinners and my big cock.

Belt, paddle, switch, hand, yeah.
I'd do about anything shy of killing myself to be honest
Maybe even that if it got you off enough, I dunno

What part of the world are you in?

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I knew a guy who tried it and said it wasn't worth it. The girls are looking for money with no reciprocation. He got laid a few times but said he could have gotten a high end escort for cheaper with a better experience

>standby user

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You don't make nearly enough money. Especially visiting parts where the cost of living is extremely high, that 70k looks even lower. Get the hookers or find a gf. I'm a little over 30, married now with a kid, but tried it in the past when I was only making around 87k, hookers were the way to go.

Midwest US, but nothing besides money is keeping me from leaving.

>big cock
>theyhadusinthefirsthalf.mp3

Height, weight, and location please.

You sound pretty great so far.

Age? Midwest is pretty big, what state?

> often times we don't even have sex. its about the relationship
Jesus Christ, The balls on this degenerate whore. I'm ashamed that you live in my country and wish that you mark yourself in a way that everyone would know how wretched you are.

Just so you know, everyone thinks you're a prostitute because you literally are one. Your mental gymnastics will never hide this fact.

Do it, if you're not boring you will get freebies from gorgeous women. Eugene here, I don't pay even an average of two hundred per week for more sex than I even want.

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Heh..remotely interested.. Need to hear more about your philosophy.. How can we contact you? Drop kik, sc?

This.
Consider suicide bitch.

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I'm not a 10/10 by far, but I do my best to make who I'm with feel loved
Kansas
>inb4 wizard of oz references

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You can't get pussy on 70k?! You're not real life, you're pretending to know something you obviously know nothing about.

Disagree. I live near a Big 10 college town and there are loads of SB's that'll take 200 for a single meeting. Sometimes buy them dinner first.

impatient

mhm

canadian girls are great, its them american women youve gotta watch out for

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10/10 isn't important. Being submissive, well groomed, and not fat is.

>mad that no one wants to have sex with him

I'm serious, I even had to stop creampieng one of the free ones. This nice little Mexican chick with a big ass. She just started talking about wanting kids too much, and yelling at me to come inside..... I still like fucking her though. There's this other hick girl, who I guess had only fucked >6" dicks. When I pulled out that 8" she basically became my cock slave.

Kek

Wow, lovely

One convenient locations. In Africa.

dont do it

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Are you willing to leave a kik? Or should I drop mine?

youre just mad youll never get close to a woman without paying her or mouthbreathing on the back of her neck in a grocery store lineup

Same here, I live near two big universities and fuck for cheap.

Spread your ass cheeks

Why no tattoos? If I was going to pay good money for something you would have to be covered in tattoos

You only have 20k in savings and only make 70k at 30 years old? Fucking lol

[email protected]

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Well I guess forget about me then, since I'm not up to standards
Getting kik now, what's your user so I can add you when I make it

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I don't do it anymore, I only did to pay my living expenses through college

Yeah, I was wondering the same.
I am 30 yo as well and make 40k raw, but 120k in saving

>mouthbreathing on the back of her neck in a grocery store lineup

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That isn't the problem, I could always just pay you and act like you're at all interesting to me and totally not a degenerate prostitute because you only sleep with some of the men that pay you.

Funny that the default insult of a whore is always either 'have sex' or 'no one wants to fuck you'. You can't think outside the world that revolves around your festering STD ridden snatch.

You just haven’t been given a sick offer in a while. I guarantee if I offered you 10k you would do some wacky shit. And I’m talking 10k American, not Canadian funbux

u are a uselles system tool bullshit

Redhw0
Still sceptical a bit that it will work, however started liking the flow of thought

Go on a kink website like Fetlife. There are plenty of young girls in their late teens and early 20's who are really into kinky daddy shit and would jump at the opportunity to be a live-in sex slave if you paid their bills so they could move out of their parents house.

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>White knighting a whore the sleeps with men for sex
>White knighting a whore the sleeps with men for sex when you're not even in the same location as her and will never meet
>Using the exact same 'have sex' insult as the whore with an 70 IQ and pretending it's at all insulting or relevant.
LMAO. HAVE SEX, NERD. There's nothing wrong with young women selling themselves to old fat men for money and you're a virgin if you think otherwise.

Please elaborate

>I don't do it anymore, I only did to pay my living expenses through college
They're called student loans, retard, and it's obvious you're still in the game when you're posting yourself here and attention whoring for business.

He called you a useless system tool, so I think he means you are literally disk_defragment.exe

Cute tits. I had s side piece in Windsor a few years ago. She was a lot of fun

Im 35 and make around 60k, USD - NOK is terrible atm.
However I actually have 200 k in debt but a farm appraised at 450 k.

My point is, its not possible to have savings if you are trying to get established in the housing market. Housing in norway are terribly expensive. I still consider myself well of, debt is paid of in 10 years and I have income both on the farm and my job.


while in 10 years you are sitting in a basement with your neckbeard and 200 k in savings and housing cost have trippled.

Instathots without a doubt you can score nudes etc from for money. The tricky part is getting the ones that aren’t complete white trash and I mean that in they don’t actually live in a fucking trailer park. Then again it’s just a numbers game so if you go around offering 5k to every instathot you find you’ll have to get lucky at least once. Best way to approach it is just to say you want to fuck them, and ask if they want a gift of X amount of money or to be spoiled with X amount. They’ll get the hint. Then just send 10% before meeting up so they know it’s real, 50% after you meet up and are just walking around, rest of the 40% after you’ve had enough nuts.
These are girls are expecting upwards of 2k a month for being your sugar baby. At the end of the year that will significantly change whatever kind of lifestyle you have

What do you grow on the Norwegian farm?

For 2k a month, they would have to be smoking hot, and be a live in sex slave 5 days a week. It would be an actual full time job for them.

>Paying 5k to have sex
The fucking state of these neckbeards with sexual addictions.

Like jfc I'm no babe but I'd do it for $10

Nothing, i rent out the land and it has quite a bit forest so every 10 year or so I can take out around 40 k in timber.

Still here?

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Yes, still lurking

Good one user!

After taxes and replanting.

And that basicly means I dont do work on the farm, and to avoid taxes I reinvest in the roads or buy equipment. A couple years ago i took out around 1200 m3, so did some work on the barn and bought a new atv, I guess the value apraisal went up but hasnt checked since it doesnt really matter as I intend to live here.

Want to talk, user? I've got kik now. Figured it was about time, most people on here seem to use it

>women you.ve gotta watch out for
all of you harpies and the faggots that enable this fucking degen (whore/sugardady)bull shit. No balls or cunts, the lot of ya.

Gonna call bullshit. That reverse is hella looked down on and this needs to be as well.

Age/location? Are you fat?

You sound young. SB's are awesome when you're married and over 40. I'm nice looking and in shape though, so it's probably much harder for obese autists.

Read the thread. She already said she was fat and in Kansas.

I'm not a smoking hot instagram model.
I'm just a depressed, unimpressive female. Sorry for the letdown.

You sound like some boomer faggot that is paying for sex yet doesn't want to think it's just prostitution because they only fuck you half of the time and you pay ten times the amount you should have.
>I'm nice looking and in shape though
Of course you had to preface that with 'I'm not a loser though111!'. You are, if you weren't you wouldn't be buying whores and then defending it on a Norwegian cat flipping enthusiasts site.

I'm gen x young buck and I can get all the 20 year old pussy I want because you kids are gigantic pussies and women are attracted to real men.

I have no issue with paying for pussy. It's way more convenient and easy than having a side piece.

Not sure what you're so angry about.

>r/sexsells and r/sugarbaby
That looks almost entirely for online stuff. Doubt I'll find someone within 200 miles of me on there.

You don't need to be smoking hot, just not fat. Also don't be so negative, I'm sure you can find a guy.
Try /adv/ for the depression and also maybe finding a bf. I've seen anons chatting in the "ask the opposite gender" threads there before.

>Tinder, Snapchat/ Instagram
Do I need to pay to get matches on Tinder, or is there a certain profile I can make to attract sugar babies? Also, how do I find Snapchat/Instagram thots?

For a second, I thought she was wearing an eyepatch

Yeah I know. I'm usually in the "ask femanon" threads lurking or answering questions.
As for appearance, there's a reason why I'm here. I don't have a boyfriend or anyone interested in me because of my appearance. Hence why I'm sad, alone, depressed, and here.
The "there's someone out the for everyone" thing is a lie and I'm tired of being lonely.

Faggot.

>gen x young buck
Your old now fucker, I'm 25
>paying for pussy
>way more convenient
>easy
>side piece
Just pimp you twat, tell birds that your a free man (if you are) and be real This is the social BS that makes this world so fucking insufferable and spills into broken economics and bad politics.

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If you could get all the 20 year old pussy you wanted, you wouldn't have to pay for it, pussy. If you don't see a problem with fucking a festering hole hundreds of other men are also fucking, Syphilis has probably infected your brain and started eating it away.

Imagine being someone your age and being egoistical enough to actual defend your whore mongering on an anonymous site and then lie through your teeth that you're 'totally not a loser' despite it being painfully clear to everyone else. LMAOing at your life.

>The "there's someone out the for everyone" thing is a lie and I'm tired of being lonely.
And you just blindly belived that shit. Think for yourself bitch. You'll either die or rise.

We ALL deserve love

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Get tinder, you huge retard. Even 2/10s get messages by dozens of men. Such is life on easy mode.

Does anyone have that image where they made Eggman a woman and used him to catfish guys? It's like that.

FUCK NO.
EARN THAT SHIT.

>picrelated

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You don't pay for pussy, you pay them to leave you alone when you're done using them. Fucking loser.

Too depressed to care otherwise I guess. I'm not young and gullible to believe in love anymore, so it's whatever.
Had it, got a couple messages, one meet up, then nothing after that. A lot of people where I live want attractive or yeehaw girls, and I'm neither.

Paying for sex is peak freedom though, you fucking commie.

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...shit; you're right tho
Bad pic related

Nope, browse tinder for thots that have there Snapchat/Instagram usernames. Then add them in what ever platform they are on (snapwhores tend to be more responsive), once they have added you make small talk. If they bite ask them on a date, they will probably say no, but then you say, "what if I gave you $x?" (Start low, especially only for a date). My success rate with this is probably in the 80 percentile. If they ask what you're expecting, just say let's go to (what ever date). On the date, hit them with the, "if we go back to my place (or hers), and we have a little fun I'd give you $x more". Haven't met one who have resisted yet, some I don't even offer extra money and end up fucking them at a low rate of $40 + (dinner, lunch, drinks, mini golf, ect.). Good luck.

>complains quality of prostitutes is usually shit
>wants to be a sugar daddy
>both of these involve girls who will put in minimum effort expecting money
are you literally retarded?

Nice body femanon. Keep it up.

/Thread

Have you tried losing weight?

>U PAY DEM TO LEVE AFTERWARD KID
That's what you tell yourself to justify paying some whore to sleep with you, it's a common coping mechanism. In reality, they wouldn't fuck you unless you paid for them and they definitely would have no interest in someone so desperate that he has to pay hundreds of dollars just to wet his wrinkly age spotted dick.
>Fucking loser.
Oh the irony, the projection.
Go down the list. Tinder, Okcupid, Plenty of fish, whatever bullshit that has come out recently, and Christian meet up groups. I'm assuming you're under 30 and even young women with facial disfigurement usually have no problems finding a partner. Hell, there are normal seeming men who date women with down syndrome.

>thread

it is worh it. spend between 100-200 myself, and get to fuck 18-21yr olds. Have gone through over 100 now with most being out of my laegue. Prior to that I was dating people within my age range 35-40 and spent more than $200 on dinner and a nice night with getting nothing out of it. Cost/Reward, go and pay a sugarbaby that guarantees being able to fuck a hot girl in their prime for less than a date with a used up 30yr old.

>Too depressed to care otherwise I guess. I'm not young and gullible to believe in love anymore, so it's whatever.
I'm becoming an electrician soon; I've seen rock bottom, depression, no love, no friends. You get a choice who you want to be, but most give it up to others. Find your principles. I fucking hate you, not because of what you are, because you choose to shun yourself to becoming want you wanted...like mosts

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Appearance for women is based mostly on fitness. You might never be a 10/10 but if you get then most men will consider you attractive enough.
Read the /fit/ sticky, eat right, lift weights

So what do you do now?

Moar?

Yes, to no avail. I've got scoliosis, which causes excruciating pain after prolonged movement, and it makes me hopeless.
Did that. Got every account on every dating site that seemed legit/normal. Even tried fetlife. Joined groups, messages people, but I can't afford the "premium" these dating sites offer to see who actually likes you, so I had no idea who or what I was missing. I know there are women uglier and far heavier than me who get laid and that makes me upset, but I guess I get it. It's life.
Oh well. Added to the list of people who hate me for inane reasons. Have fun, the list is long.
Thanks for trying to help I guess, but it'd not that simple. Healthy food, gym memberships, this shit isn't free. I wouldn't even know where to begin. These aren't excuses, just reasons more to hate myself for not making the right decisions to get me to s more successful point in life.
Too broke, too stupid, too depressed, too ugly, too useless.
If anyone feels up to the task to fix a broken human, be my guest.

>I've got scoliosis, which causes excruciating pain after prolonged movement, and it makes me hopeless.
I take it chewing and swallowing isn't affected by your scoliosis?

>Healthy food, gym memberships, this shit isn't free
Eating less is not only free, but saves you money
>I wouldn't even know where to begin
go to /fit/, read the sticky. Spoiler: #1 is eat less

>Did that. Got every account on every dating site that seemed legit/normal.
Seems like an abnormality. I think you should try it again, I doubt it's your area seeing as fly over states aren't known for their hoards of attractive women.
>Yes, to no avail
Not him, but I'm going to let you in on a secret. You could literally never leave your bed and still lose weight if you wanted to. It's almost entirely dependent on total energy intake and not exercises which 'burns' surprisingly few calories.

If you're serious about it, get a free calorie tracking app, and get a $10 food scale. Go to this website, figure out how many calories you should eat a day to lose weight, count literally everything you eat, and I assure you if you do all this, you'll lose weight. Another option would be fasting as you have months worth of energy just hanging off your body or you could limit yourself to only one meal a day which has shown to be almost as effective as counting calories for most people.

sailrabbit.com/bmr/

I don't eat a lot, and I don't overeat when I do. I don't eat out or get fast food or particularly unhealthy foods, I hardly ever eat actually because I never leave my bedroom. So ha ha. Very funny.
I already practically starve myself due to depression, I tried going bulimic because I kept giving up hope in changing my appearance.
I don't think you really get it.

Oh and 'healthy food' doesn't matter if you're trying to lose weight. You should try to eat healthy but the whole thing is just a matter of energy intake.

Thanks, some actually useful advice.

Well I don't stuff my face with fucking cake and cheeseburgers like this faggot thinks.
I eat like 2 small things a day if that. Sometimes because I don't leave my room, I don't eat at all.

You are so beautiful

Leave your room. Even just going for a walk will help with depression. But you should never just sit in your room all day. Get out.
And don't just starve yourself. Go to /fit/ and get some real advice for how to get in shape, that will also help with depression

A lot of guys I know from the hooker scene are into this sugar daddy shit, but to me it sounds like a pain in the ass.

Yeah you get to fuck hot college age girls and there aren't nearly as many rules...but in return you have to talk to them on a near daily basis, deal with their bullshit problems, it's basically all the hassle of having a real girlfriend without the emotional attachment and it costs more.

If that does it for you, by all means go for it. For me though, i'm sticking to my druggie whores off listcrawler.

lol
>my body metabolizes dark energy causing me to be fat no matter how little I eat!
Keep a food diary, and write down everything you eat. Every. Thing. Weigh that shit. Yes, that green tea frappe counts. Doesn't matter if you walked for 15 minutes, that bowl of ice cream counts. Just a handful of chips? Measure that shit first and see how big your 'handful' is.
I'll bet dollars to donuts that you're grossly underestimating how much you eat.
>I don't think you really get it.
I get that you're using the muh genetics argument to justify why you can't be within 100 yards of a birthday cake without unhinging your jaw in order to swallow it whole

there is nothing wrong with cheeseburgers faggot.

Hilarious. I almost laughed.

nice condescending attitude asshole.
be nice is that so hard. shes already depressed dont antagonise

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>she feels sorry for herself so just tell her what she wants to hear
No
Nobody makes it from being coddled

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>Yes, to no avail. I've got scoliosis, which causes excruciating pain after prolonged movement, and it makes me hopeless.
Losing weight is 95% eating less. Exercise completely optional
>Oh well. Added to the list of people who hate me for inane reasons. Have fun, the list is long.
He was trying to be helpful. You just proved his point by being destitute

We're skeptical that you're not getting any attention on dating sites. Feel free to post a pic of yourself. More likely, is you're not seeing anybody up to your standard, which is fair because it's not worth doing it just for the sake of doing it
>Too broke, too stupid, too depressed, too ugly, too useless.
That's the default human condition. You've got to build yourself into something more
>If anyone feels up to the task to fix a broken human, be my guest.
No thanks. You're problem isn't your body or circumstance, it's your mentality. Depression is hard to overcome, but you probably already know the steps to take, hard as it might be to follow through. Good luck

Everything adds up and you're not afforded the same amount of calories in order to maintain weight as someone basically working out all day long doing their job. I don't know if you've ever watched Secret Eaters, I'm not even recommending it, but it basically shows that most people cannot be trusted to accurately record what they eat and their calorie consumption. Most overweight people believe they eat very little. Likewise, skipping meals does very little for most people when they then overeat on the other meals they have.

Just to make it easier for you when using that calculator, what you're looking to figure out is Total Daily Energy Expenditure (TDEE). This is the amount that will have you maintaining your weight, give or take a few hundred calories. If you want to lose a pound per week on average, eat about 500 calories less than this amount. 1000 calories less than this amount for two pounds. After a month if you're still not losing weight, reduce calories even more. In no reality would you be able to eat 1000 calories less than someone else your size and still not lose weight. Your body is already designed to be as efficient as possible with energy intake.

fuck off fatty. Nobody cares about you.

Tell me something I don't know.

See what happens to people who try to be nice about telling her that her life is her fault?

>quoth the fupacabra

I'm aware it's my fault, I'm not blaming "muh genetics" or secretly stuffing my face with ice cream and fried chicken
I said just forget it.

It's cool, depressed people are always angry

sauce ?

>I said just forget it.
And yet you're still posting
Go post on /adv/ if you want people to feel sorry for you. Those thirsty sycophants will tell you whatever you want to hear.

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I was on seekingarrangement for years, and LOVED it. I got to nail hotter / younger chicks than I could pull myself, and I made some really good friends from there as well. With that said, you have to keep in mind the "percentages" are the same: Whether you're in a bar, church, or Sugar Daddy site, 80% of the bitches are too insane to bother with, 10% have golden-pussy syndrome and think they're a Disney princess, 5% are lying scam artist cunts, and MAYBE 5% are worth getting to know to see if something develops.

SA was cool, because after getting through the percentages, you could actually find a local girl who just needed some extra cash and was willing to fuck for it. The monthly rate is kinda high (about $80 US) but it rarely took me that long to find what I was looking for.

Coincidentally, my girlfriend is on SA because we had some unexpected financial issues. She's met some real weirdos, but has finally found a couple guys like you: married and wanting some harmless fun, or just a lonely dude who wants some "companionship". She's pulls in a couple thousand per month between that and camming.

Never wanted pity, cunt.
And I thought I was the one who had pent uo frustration, look at you

I read everything you said, I'm just not enabling you by believing your bullshit. In ten years when you're even more overweight, in pain, and unloved, I would like you to remember that we actually took time out of our days to give you honest advice that would work for you and you spit in our faces.

>Never wanted pity
Could've fooled me, butter huffer

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Are you actually fat? Are you sure you don't just have body image issues? It would be common given your depression you might think you're less attractive than you are.
You also might be "skinnyfat" where the problem is lack of muscle rather than having too much fat. This is common in girls since most never lift weights

I've been on SA for a couple of years as well. It is expensive, $89 a month, and can be frustrating, but as a guy in his 50's I sure as hell ain't going to be matching will college coeds on Tinder anytime soon. I've "met with" I believe 22-23 ladies with a queue of about four or five right now just waiting for me to close the deal basically. Of those there were only two that I woudn't repeat, but the rest were fantastic. Some insane sex, good lord. One girl who was barely (I checked to make sure) 18 was particularly fun. I was only her second male partner, the first only having come a week and a half earlier. She begged me to fuck her ass to finish the first time we met because she wanted to know what it was like. user was happy to oblige!

My biggest concern is how do you only have 20k in savings at 30?
I'm 21 and have 40k in investments in addition to a 401k

He never said 70k isn't enough to get pussy, moron. He said 70k isn't enough to be a sugar daddy. If you don't know what the difference is between the two, then I'm sure you've got some geometry homework that's due tomorrow, kiddo.

Not everyone has Daddy's money, faggot.

>You also might be "skinnyfat"
If she was skinnyfat, she wouldn't be having all those problems with dating profiles.
Now than likely, she's pic related

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>woman
Kek

Sugar daddies may or may not get to have sex with their sugar babies. So my question to you is: are you looking for classy prostitute or are you looking to spoil a pretty girl? If you want somebody to spoil, then it'll be an ongoing monthly cost and 70k isn't enough for you and her to live off long-term, unless you want to retire broke. If you just want a classy prostitute, then you're looking at the wrong site.

>>I'm considering joining a sugar daddy dating site.
>>I have 70k salary,

Not on 70K

You'll need that money to make up for your insufferable personality. No one cares what you have or what that faggot OP has in his bank account. Go get your pat on the back from the gay men you fuck.

^ That's me

Damn, it's up to $89 now? Still worth it, in my opinion, though. Where are you located? Do you do an 'allowance' or 'per visit' deal with your targets? What do you generally pay? (My gf is 22, she does PPM at ~$300 depending on distance, whether it's at the guy's house or a hotel, etc.)