Why do the democrats want open borders?

It's not trolling

More workers who will work for under min. wage.
More people willing to live in government subsidized conditions.
More voters.
Less enemies.
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The elites in the left LOVE slave labor for their companies and they hide behind it by telling everyone "wE aRe cOmPasSioNaTe". The Republicans are the same. We are just lucky to have a nationalist movement, beginning with Trump.

>The Republicans are the same.
No we would prefer illegals fuck out

Not that user, but modern Republicans are shit.
The are basically Democrats from 25 years ago.
Everything keeps going left. It's just that the Democrats have also been moving left, so it appears as if the Republicans are still "reasonably" right.
But at this point both are more left than desirable.

To get all the latin lolis in.

Because not every mexican is a drug dealer you faggot

This. They are rapist. And I assume, some of them are good people.

It doesn't matter if they are known criminals or a scientist who can cure all cancers.
If you want in a country, enter legally at the point of entry, don't overstay visas, etc.
Just like every other country, besides maybe the shitholes of the EU.

And? Drug dealers and cartel members will still flood in with open borders. Borders help filter bad apples.

So why do the democrats want open borders? Because they are run by the Jews, and jews want to create a binary world in which there is the greater Israel, and the rest of the race-mixed world working for them as cattle.

I hope they do open the borders and let undocumented wetbacks come here.
If they are undocumented they don't exist.
You can't rape and kill people that don't exist.

And your point is? We still have laws and your amigos are breaking them by coming and staying illegally

Because Democrats, like any politician, want to be in power for as much as they can, and for the democrats the best bet for that isbringing in as many brown people in as possible, despite any detriments to the country

Open borders fixes the perceived problem. Historically, workers would come to the US, work and go back home. Once border security was heightened in the late 80s and early 90s, they could not risk going back and forth anymore, so now they just stay.

that is bullshit

>historically
Yeah, maybe back during the industrial/modern eras, the world has changed.
Developed nations no longer have a need for unskilled, uneducated, laborers.

Implying the fuckhead in the whitehouse wants any form of legal entry at all unless you're white with a PhD.

It can take 15 years or more to legally migrate.

If you don't think both corporations and government officials profit and benefit from the various trafficking across the US southern border, then you are delusional or willfully ignorant.

So you want people who are going to carry welfare and food stamps to come instead? That's why you're upset right?

They don't want open borders. Weak bait mate.

He's not trying to prevent them from getting assistance, he's trying to prevent them from coming at all.

They do want open borders, "mate". Obviously you wouldn't know that, being the 3rd worlder you are.

How? By expecting them to earn their own way and not be leeches? Which of course is what your team wants, everyone to be weak and depended on government assistance.

The right wing loves a power vacuum filled with plutocrats with strong law enforcement backing cracking down on their political rivals quashing their civil rights.

Your team wants an exploitable underclass with no representation as they shift labor capital from the poor to the rich. Government works for us, or at least it would with campaign finance reform where the rich plutocrats don't control all the decisions that get made.

The only reason why elites and MSM are pushing for a multicultural mixed society is to create a population of docile, dependent welfare slaves who won't challenge authority. It isn't even a racial thing, it's about pure power and domination.

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No, that would be YOUR team's endgame. What we, NORMAL PEOPLE want is for your monkey pets to follow the fucking laws and come here legally. Is that so much to ask? I understand spics are stupid and don't understand the concept of law and order, but come on now. Can you at least explain it to them?

Name one Democrat representative that wants open borders with a citation.

Any democrat who runs a sanctuary city is supporting open borders and lawlessness. And they are ALL democrat cities by the way.

Normal people are stupid and completely uninformed.

According to the U.S. Department of State's latest Visa Bulletin, (currently covering May 2018) siblings are now eligible for processing via family reunification if they filed immigration paperwork before Feb. 1, 1995.

"You read that right. Feb. 1, 1995. That means the projected wait time, for a brother or sister who applies today, would be more than 23 years"

A sanctuary city is one that doesn't enforce an unfunded mandate. Why should cities expend resources to do something they're not paid to do?

States rights used to be a conservative thing, but now you're all fucking retards who don't understand your own positions.

they think that illegals will vote democrat
even though all the evidence shows that most immigrants that can legally vote support the republican party
an the few that do not still oppose open borders

so that democrats can give out more free gibs for votes.

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>A sanctuary city is one that doesn't enforce an unfunded mandate
No, they are cities where your slaves be live openly and break whatever immigration laws they please. As they do that your team gives them benefits they don't fucking deserve, that even US citizens don't get. Then when those monkeys get arrested you people cry about it. Either way that proves my point your team wants open borders.

>even though all the evidence shows that most immigrants that can legally vote support the republican party
LOL no they fucking do not you lying fucking spic

immigration laws are enforced by the federal government, cities should not try to enforce immigration laws because then crime will not be reported to the local police by immigrants and ACTUAL crime will worsen.

No, no. I said name one with a citation, not blanket statements. One person that supports open borders with a citation that confirms it.

Sure, any bullshit excuse for your slaves to be here illegally and break any laws they want. If these people are so great, why doesn't your team want them in their own neighborhoods? Why do the slave masters set up containment zones for them?

I already told you kid. I get that you didn't get the memo, but this thread is for adults. I think there's a minecraft thread up for you.

You're bitching about sanctuary cities not enforcing immigration law then claim we don't want them in our neighborhoods? Are you suggesting they live in parallel dimensions we've established in our cities?

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>Donald Trump employs known illegal immigrants for decades
>It's the Democrats that are the problem!
why ur fag

Lol no. Everything has most definitely been moving right. The fact that someone who has basically the same policies as FDR is called a radical and a communist is proof. The fact that Americans think social democracy is far-left is proof.

>the evil rich businessmen are all red elephants!!11!!11!!!!!!1!!!

I love this bullshit spin. "Oh it's not fair to expect us to enforce lawds, lawdy why is uz axing us 2 d0 dat"? Yeah we get it, your team supports open borders and lawlessness. So long as your monkey pets stay in their containment zones you're happy. Soon as they leave and show up in your neighborhood you stop smiling. Then your team want to say it's the other side that is racist. As to your question, what we want is for your pets to stop breaking the law and come here legally. Can you at least ask? They're fucking retarded and won't understand, I know, but can you at least try?

Minorities are afraid of rich white dudes

Because they're Americans

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Who is American? The spics coming here illegally?

Trump is trying his best to stop them.

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Yes, so mature of you to resort to insults when you can't back up your arguments. Such and adult. Manbaby more specifically. Thanks for your concession.

Notice how the media has stopped reporting on the wall altogether

Delusional.

No he's right

History says otherwise.

What history you fucking child? You don't even know what you're talking about

This, sadly. I fucking hate them for selling us out for votes and don't get me wrong, Republicans were doing the same, thank Christ for Trump, mother fucker done changed the game. Crazy how he make our party the party of the people. After Bush, I never thought I would vote right, but now I'll never go back, I love my guns too much.

Race war.

Very, very true. Even with Trump as good as he is, Dan, I just want a pro-border Libertarian for just four years to clean shit up.

They support mexican murderers and rapists over US citizens

Laws are enforced by state violence. You will NEVER be in service of freedom by locking people up.

It's no wonder people violate the law when it takes 23 YEARS to do something legal.

23 years my ass. And you are literally saying lawdys are too hawd to follow, so your pets should be allowed to break them. If that's how you feel then why don't you faggots live next to illegals? Why do you have to set up containment zones for them?

I need to fuck that

Because they don't believe in states

containment zones? Inside an entire city? You're an idiot.

Yes, containment zones, in the form of santucary cities. You faggots are all smiles when your slaves break our laws and come here illegally. So long as they all stay when the slave masters tell them too. But when they leave and show up where you live, all of a sudden you stop smiling. You wanna tell us all why you fags are so racist and don't wanna live near spics? If they're all such great people and not criminals, what's the problem?

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Your claim makes NO fucking sense. Most cities are democrat and vote democrat and they're sanctuary cities which would obviously "attract illegals" to live right beside the residents... Who are democrat.

You're a fucking idiot.

It makes PERFECT sense if you would stop acting like a fucking retard for 2 minutes. Why is it necessary to set up a fucking sanctuary city in the first fucking place? And then you people say you don't want open borders, fuck outta here with this bullshit. You are literally saying, if you make it to the US physically, you can stay here indefinitely even if you overstay your visa or get told by a judge you need to get the fuck out. So yeah, you ask who is supporting open borders? Anyone who runs one of those containment zones of yours. But if these people move in next door to you or one of your slave masters, all the smiling and joking stops. So you wanna try again and explain what the problem is?

whats that matter? the latino demographic costs more federal dollars than it puts back in, far more actually all the while it commits disproportionate amounts of crime

give me a reason I should want more

only 10% of illegals come in over the boarder. Most fly in. The rest come in by boat.

Because they were told to by their owners.

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Most come by plane huh? Then why are hundreds of people being stopped AT the fucking border every day, you fucking dumbass spic

Imagine thinking that illegals actually vote because trump said so
so many kek's

Illegals are not allowed to vote in any state

this is why

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>>all the smiling and joking stops

I don't even know what you're talking about. Most Democrats don't mind living next to illegals and believe there should be an easier legal path forward to citizenship, or at least vastly expanded work permits for refugees and people who need it.

"Sanctuary cities" are simply cities who don't enforce unfunded mandates. No one is going to reimburse the local jail for holding illegals based only on their immigration status, so they shouldn't waste resources doing it when that illegal could be out working.

hundreds isn't very many.

You can actually learn things by reading pleb:
www.npr.org/2019/01/10/683662691/where-does-illegal-immigration-mostly-occur-heres-what-the-data-tell-us

Being black is a profound xperience.

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If they don't vote, like you say, then why are the democrats opposed to voter ID laws? While at the same time giving those illegals driver licenses, how do you explain that?

>Most Democrats don't mind living next to illegals
Really? You people sure did a lot of bitching when Trump was gonna send your slaves next door to you

Hundreds, which turned into thousands. I know, you're a dumb nigger who doesn't understand how math works, but at least try not being a fucking retard.

Hardly. They were amused at the rationale Trump was expressing which flew directly in the face of his previous opinions.

Amused my ass. You people were bitching and crying because you KNOW that spics are subhumans and make everywhere they move into worse. You only want them here so they can vote for your team and stay in their containment zones. I do look forward to when Trump wins 2020 though. I have a VERY good feeling your heroes are going to throw those spics they love so much under the fucking bus when they lose again.

Lol. There's absolutely no evidence dropping someone off somewhere would mean they would stay in the local area. The whole idea was laughably stupid.

Yeah they wouldn't stay because fags like you, who love to claim they're all great people, would pick up the fucking phone and call the police because a darky is in your neighborhood. Why don't you take them into your home such you love them so much?

wired.com/story/voter-id-law-algorithm/

That's still way less than came by plane.

Voter ID laws are fucking stupid and used to complicate minorities from voting. You already have a database of eligible voters... Just put their photo in the database and look at the damn thing when they show up to vote.

But no common sense is allowed when the GOP can use laws to target the opposition.

>muh illegal poor minorities who are too stupid to get a voter id

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>Voter ID laws are fucking stupid and used to complicate minorities from voting
Untrue. Are you saying minorities are too stupid to get a free government issued ID?

You dumb, virtue signaling cracker.
youtube.com/watch?v=yW2LpFkVfYk

>Voter ID laws are fucking stupid and used to complicate minorities from voting

This literally makes no fucking sense. And I love how you claim it's "fucking stupid", then turn around and throw out an idea that is literally retarded as fuck and makes no sense. Just admit you don't want Voter ID because you're afraid your team will lose even more elections without it. It's far more believable.

I'm saying it's an unnecessary complication for everyone who moves a lot, college students, minority women who change their names, it opens up a burden to the processes of all 50 states to corruption that can deny ID based on processing times, availability and costs.

Voting is a constitutional right, requiring ID isn't necessary when we already maintain election data regarding who's eligible.

So, you need to verify who you are. I can't think of a single country that doesn't verify voters.
Even where I am from you get a separate (and free) voter ID specifically for voting.
There is no excuse against it other than you want non-citizens to vote.
Either admit it or shut the fuck up, because you are the worst kind of American.
Ignorant, condescending, arrogant, white savior.
I know you are a dumb cracker who lumps all non-whites into the same "minorities" group. But you fail to realize you are the real racist.
Go back to sucking cocks.

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>> your team will lose

True that as well, you can't trust Republicans for shit no to require costly ID renewals with long waiting times. Have you been to a DMV?

I mean look at the districts these people have came up with to change the votes.

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>Voting is a constitutional right
I love how you leftists cunt LOVE to say this when it comes to shit you want. But when it comes to guns all of a sudden you wanna wipe your ass with the constitution.

>costly ID
LOL, yeah because niggers and spics have money for iPhones and Air Niggers, but not $10 for a fucking ID.

Tell you what though, if we all agree to give your pets IDs for free, will you finally support Voter ID laws? No of course not, you'll just make up a new bullshit excuse. Because your team knows if we make their slaves show ID they would lose every fucking election outside of chimpcago.

Sounds great, until you're one of those 17 million purged from rolls in the last 2 years.

The Brennan Center for Justice released a study Thursday showing that 17 million Americans were dropped from voter rolls between 2016 and 2018—almost four million more than the number purged between 2006 and 2008.

commondreams.org/news/2019/08/02/17-million-americans-purged-voter-rolls-between-2016-and-2018-analysis-finds

Good. They should have registered to vote before the deadline.
No special treatment for those too lazy to register and have an ID.

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Votes

Were they "dropped" because it turned out they were felons, illegals and other people who aren't suppose to be voting? That's why isn't it? Of course people like you WANT felons and illegals to vote, because they will vote for your team. I'm with that other guy, fags like you are the real racists in this country. The type who thinks every non-white thinks exactly the same and likes the same shit. Or how you think you're doing them a "favor" by deciding who and what they should be voting for.

Yeah, we know you want to enact a million different deadlines, rules, and regulations. That's the GOP modus operandi. You pass voter ID and then all your minions in every state get together to pass laws that will suppress the turnout.

surely you're not dumb enough to believe that illegal immigrants are allowed to cast votes in our elections
>surely

Because anyone should be able to live wherever they want to live. Everyone should be able to do whatever is necessary to live a prosperous life as long as it doesn't directly harm other people. Because I'd like to see worldwide meritocracy - which is far from anything that we have now.

The GOP has an endless list of stooges who will botch voter purges and resign...after it's too late of course. My state has recently proven this:

thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/445682-texas-secretary-of-state-resigns-after-botched-voter-purge

Dems don’t want open borders by and large. Reasonable borders. More CBP agents. More drones over the area. Electronic surveillance. Humane conditions for the detained illegals. Sufficiently staffed immigration courts so that shit can be addressed reasonably. Expulsion of criminals. Processing of refugee claimants according to our international obligations. Guest worker visas so that farmers can get the workers they need and pay tax on that shit (GWBs idea when he was governor).
Only lunatics want completely open borders and only lunatics want a walled off fortress America

I never said I support the "GOP." So take your identity politics and shove them up your ass.
You have yet to present any actual reason against it other than you think non-whites are too stupid to get free IDs.

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>You pass voter ID and then all your minions in every state get together to pass laws that will suppress the turnout.
Really? Can you name ANY law and which state where that has happened? I know you can't, but try anyway

>You have yet to present any actual reason against it other than you think non-whites are too stupid to get free IDs
That is exactly what he thinks. Same way every liberal and democrat views minorities. They all see them as retarded chimps who can't figure out anything for themselves.

The democrats don't want any of that bullshit. Give me a break.

You keep repeating stupid shit. Free IDs are not the norm. The rules surrounding getting those free IDs are also burdensome and a complete mischaracterization of getting ID.

If you have a social security number you should be able to vote, end of story. Put a photo in the database and make it all available to election staff.

You assume everyone in the world wants what you want. Sad truth is they do not. You also don't know your neighbors. What if your neighbors who move next door dont share your ideology. You gonna move? name a country who had open boarders that worked? And thats a trick question

Dumbass. It's for the population boost. The number of Electoral College votes is based on total Pop, not just the Pop of citizens.

I’m a democrat that’s exactly what I want. That’s what pelosi offered money for but our emperor chose to refuse it since wall money wasn’t there in amounts he wanted

Most illegals aren't Mexicans you fucking idiot.

Checked.
That's why I view him as an actual racist compared to nearly every "GOP" supporter I've ever met treating my like a human being and an adult. I live in a mostly white area and no one treats me bad, and no one treats me like a child.
But the bigger America cities are like walking into a Chuck E. Cheese clown house.
I like America, but people like him make it very unpleasant.

Who. Cares. You. Dumb. Fuck.
We are talking about adults here. You need an ID besides for voting anyways.
State your claim or shut up, white nigger.

Sure. Even cutting the budget will force decisions to be made about closing DMVs. Of course they will be strategically closed to affect the voter turnout. Might as well close the officers near where all the blacks live, huh?

"Alabama’s Law Enforcement Agency announced that it was closing down 31 “driver license offices” around the state due to an $11 million cut in the budget that funded those operations. "

Get an ID you jobless hippy or don't vote.

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Yeah, you bootlickers would have us showing ID to every authority figure you could cram up our ass. You wouldn't be able to walk down the street without having every citizen prove something to a cop.

Sure call my whatever buzzwords you want instead of defending your position.
I'm glad you fear the state and police. "People" like you are the exact reason we need them in the first place.

My neighbor doesn't need to share my ideology.

It's amazing the amount of people who care so much about borders but can't spell the fucking word.

You people are idiots.

So you fuckers stop saving thumbnails, dumbass

I rent to people like you, dumb idiots who own nothing and transfer all their wealth to others and constantly vote against their own interests.

Again, if we all agree to give your slaves free IDs, will you agree to Voter ID laws? Why are you not answering this question? Because you CANT answer that question, since it blows up your entire bullshit argument to shreds. There is literally no real reason, at all, to oppose Voter ID. Everyone knows the real reason the democrats don't want it, is because they want people who aren't suppose to be voting to vote, and they wouldn't be able to cheat anymore.

No she wanted anmesty for every illegal, that way they can turn Texas and Florida into deep blue states, like they did in California. Problem is ain't nobody falling for that bullshit this time. You motherfuckers don't want the wall because you WANT people to keep coming illegally. Then in 20 years you'll do this again and say "oh we'll fix it NEXT time, we promise!". Fuck outta here with this bullshit.

Notice how he didn't bother addressing it either. I know what you're talking about though. I use to go to CC where almost everyone there was non-white, and it's like you're in a fucking daycare for adults it's pathetic. Every class is watered down almost to the point you don't even need to fucking study, and niggers STILL fucking fail those classes. But if all of these people were white and asian they wouldn't do that shit. That's how liberals view and treat minorities, like they're all fucking babies.

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>Notice how he didn't bother addressing it either.
He's been doing it the whole thread. Likely thinks he's a clever contrarian troll, or actually retarded. No idea, but the end result is the same.

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If it isn’t obvious, it’s for votes.

>Yeah, you bootlickers would have us showing ID to every authority figure you could cram up our ass

Yeah, because your chimp ass pets keep breaking the motherfucking law. Then you asshole wanna complain they are 3x more likely to be arrested. Give me a motherfucking break. We all know niggers and spics don't carry ID because they have warrants for their arrest. Of course the slave masters will never admit this in public.

Having open borders and having countries at the same time doesn't really work. I agree. So let's do away with both.

>Voting for open borders, gun bans and more taxes is my own interest

Suck my dick

Oops fucked up that reply.

>Having open borders and having countries at the same time doesn't really work. I agree. So let's do away with both countries and borders.

I can post a billion links and reasons voter ID is abused. Unfortunately you'd still be an idiot and ignore all of it.

A judge in North Carolina on Friday tossed out the state's constitutional amendment requiring a voter ID, citing prevalent gerrymandering in the state's General Assembly.

thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/431241-judge-tosses-north-carolina-mandatory-voter-id-law-cites

Playing games and task switching don't care about spelling on B

So if a bunch of people move freely to the US you get what happened in sweden and all over Europe. People who speak similar languages will just group together. So no we have tons of communities throughout the US, all with different ideology, different language, different culture, different education etc. What happens if they picked your neighborhood? You would be forced out unless you can live somewhere where you dont speak the same language.

Its amazing that you think the world thinks the same as you. Hell a ton of people in the world still think women are lesser to a man. Can 10 million of those people come to the US?

Wow your team must be REALLY happy about this. Now they can cheat in North Carolina all they want and people like you won't say shit about it. Because niggers have money for blunts and iphones but not 10 fucking dollars for an ID.

I can honestly say growing up at school Mexicans are the most violent people I’ve ever meet. They don’t even fight fair they jump people and sell drugs. They don’t get jobs they join gangs and rob and kill. If you think bringing Mexicans into the United States look at Mexico it’s a fucking shit hole.

"What I have used for voter registration and identification for the last 52 years was not sufficient yesterday when I went to vote," Watts says.

npr.org/2013/10/30/241891800/texas-voter-id-law-creates-a-problem-for-some-women

>What happens if they picked your neighborhood?
His bitch ass would stop smiling and move out ASAP. People like him are only "tolerant" and "love diversity" but ONLY if it's outside his neighborhood. Soon as one of those people move in next door all the joking and laughing stops.

>Dems don’t want open borders by and large.
Yes, they do. They want to make it so anyone from anywhere can come here and vote...... That way, large portions of people can be brought in to sway votes. (already happening, btw)... Basically, legally conquering a nation.

>More CBP agents
With no power, no weapons, no nothing; they want boy scouts standing around ready to welcome illegal immigrants.

>More drones over the area
Of all the areas in the US, it probably already has the most .gov-run drones over it; what more do you want!? And really, what good is a drone going to do against a person crossing a border that doesn't even have an old, stretched out single-strand barbed wire running across it in places!? Tell me, what is a drone going to do in that situation? Record people? Great! Now what?

>blah blah blah etc. etc.
All of this is already going on on a daily basis. It's their standard operating procedure. Of course, you never hear about it until something goes wrong, because bad news sells and good news gets ignored entirely.

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The second paragraph is factually incorrect. Sort of sad since it could have been an interesting discussion.

Because niggers NEVER lie and make up bullshit right? Even though they get caught repeatedly and then fags like you just say oops, nothing to see here haha. Get the fuck outta my face with this shit.

Which part was incorrect, that Coach Peolsi wants amnesty for her pets, or that they wouldn't turn Texas and Florida into deep blue states? Because those two things are both facts.

When you try real hard but you don't succeed...

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You've already proven yourself to be a piece of shit. I'd take 10 immigrants if it meant you blew your head off tomorrow.

Right and once they are here starving on the street libtard are going to throw a fucking fit until they do.

>Of all the areas in the US, it probably already has the most .gov-run drones over it; what more do you want!? And really, what good is a drone going to do against a person crossing a border that doesn't even have an old, stretched out single-strand barbed wire running across it in places!? Tell me, what is a drone going to do in that situation? Record people? Great! Now what?
Imagine being this dense.
The drones will be monitored and patrols will be sent out to intercept the criminals.

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And you've proven your a nigger lover who thinks his pets are too fucking stupid to know how to get IDs. Either way you get leave this thread, your ass has gotten owned repeatedly by multiple people.

I'm a section 8 landlord. Thank you for your tax dollars.

So the drones will "monitor" these people, but not actually stop them? And this is NOT a waste of money, but the wall is? Do you people even realize how fucking stupid you sound when you make arguments like this?

That is honestly what I see a lot. Its sad lefties really don't know much about the world. Its why all these lefties who go to "shit hole" countries are killed or throw in jail. They really don't understand how damn good it is in the US. And we cant keep the US a great place if anyone can freely just come in and do what they want.

I am all for immigration, but we are a nation of laws and rules. If they follow it great come join us be my neighbor. Ill help you with your English, show you around town. You are illegal immigrant who breaks the law, ruins my neighborhood because they cant follow the rules.. then yes. Build the wall, enact strict policies on business hiring illegals.

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>Its why all these lefties who go to "shit hole" countries are killed or throw in jail
It's doubly funny when they go to these countries, in an effort to try to prove they're not shit holes and/or "great places to visit", and they end up getting robbed or killed or imprisoned, by the same people they claim they love so much. These people are fucking morons and huge hypocrites.

Funny enough (since you love identity politics) this was first brought up by the Bush administration, but the Dems laughed at it.
Now that the GOP wants the wall, Dems are suggesting the drones.

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It's more funny you've invented a fantasy in your head where all your political opponents somehow receive their "just desserts" you feel they deserve for disagreeing with your stupidity, all based on a couple misrepresented stories fed to you by breitbart.

If republicans hate Mexicans so much why do they hire them? Also if they hate drugs so much?why do they do so many? And if they are so poor why do they vote for rich people who talk shot about them? Republicans are fat dumb fucktards.

You give us too little credit...when it comes to anything White Man related we don't fuck around with documents. Fucking grandparents had their marriage license stored outside the house in case the local niggers broke in and stole THAT, because who know what they did to black people living together out of wed-lock back in hangin' days.

I'm pretty confident they don't. They just don't want to remove the already existing immigration process.

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Most people are in the middle. And US in general is just right of center. So no I am pretty clear on my lines.

Well it's as the saying goes, play stupid games you win stupid prizes. I heard a story on the radio yesterday about two liberal dumbfucks that got arrested in Iran for flying a fucking drone. It's exactly as that other guy said, these people are fucking idiots who travel to shitty countries and don't even bother looking up their fucking laws. Because they think non-whites have any fucking concept of personal rights or freedom.

>If republicans hate Mexicans so much why do they hire them?
They don't, that would be liberals doing that

>>Australian travel bloggers

Must be liberal!

Yeah okay, moron.

The US criminal code consists of over 55,000 pages and references foreign laws consisting of an incalculable number of codes. People get arrested here doing a ton of shit that's not illegal in other places.

You think a fucking conservative is going to travel to fucking Iran? You're kidding right? Obvious as fuck those retards are liberals. Trying to prove some bullshit point that Iran isn't a shitty place to live. They got exactly what the fuck they deserved.

You're retarded.

Where the fuck do you think illegals live you retard? And you think it's republicans that are giving them jobs?

>They just don't want to remove the already existing immigration process.
Exactly the problem.

Then they should campaign on fixing it. Instead they're just pushing open borders and free shit for illegals, which is bullshit and does nothing but piss everybody off.

I'm Russian, and I would arrive there, and vote for republicans, so they close boarders and no russians can ever get in US. Period.

Vote for my black queen

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They don't see it as a problem. It benefits them, and many elites. Both within government and business sectors.
Building a proper border would kill a lot of black market commerce. There is a reason they won't spend 20 billion on it, which is nothing by US budget standards.
It is the way it is by design, not an accident or something ignored. It was perfectly crafted.

Why do conservatives want closed borders?

>why do people want to defend and regulate entry into their sovereign nation?

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They just want the votes to stay in power and spend taxpayer money on bizarre social experiments or personal indulgences with no consequence. Most of them are liberals who don't have children of their own or adopt third world subhumans as fashion pets. So none of them know what it means to invest in family and heritage. Demographic replacement by foreign hordes is incomprehensible to them.

Literally boomers of the political world.

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I just oppose anything Trump wants because he's a shitty person and would have been locked up after Trump University fraud if he didn't bribe people.

We want people to come here legally, dumbass. That doesn't translate into a closed border no matter how much you democrat retards say it does.

>fought tooth and nail
>was still conquered
>loses any right to complain
....
>gets mad at Americans for defending themselves

>When are you leaving

Great question, you should ask all the niggers when the fuck they're going back to fucking Africa, especially since they are the ones who bitch and complain the most about this country and how racist it supposedly is

>We want people to come here legally
>refer to pic

>>gets mad at Americans for defending themselves

more like gets mad that they're being reverse invaded with zero resistance

who brought them over? Yeah, go back to Europe wh*teboi

Again, why don't you ask all the blacks that question, or the hispanics? You ONLY say this about whites. But if every white person left America tomorrow all the niggers and spics would be follow them where ever they go. You smelly subhuman monkeys never stay in your own shit countries.

>>brings niggers into country to do all his work for 3 centuries
>>niggers whoop his ass
>>liberal elite whoop his ass in civil war
>>liberals take down statues

They're not going anywhere, your shit is.

Because blacks are descendants of slaves you crackas brought over here

Spics in the South were there before wypipo

White people only have themselves to blame

Funny I used to think these were sensible. But hell, even the native americans should be against letting people into the country

>reverse invaded
Europeans have occupied the land for centuries.
You can try to invade it if you want, but occupiers have the right to defend themselves.

Who is forcing them to stay? They can leave anytime they fucking please. So again, when are you gonna ask them to leave?

Oh yes they are, because they would just move their monkey asses to Canada or any other country that whites live in, once they all fuck up this one like they do everywhere else they fucking live. Not enough of them work and have jobs to leech off the welfare and food stamps.

>WAH SPICS WERE HERE ALREADY

Yeah, no they fucking were not. The vast MAJORITY of them did not live in America and migrated here. See this is the problem with you fucking liberals. You all love to claim how much you love niggers and spics but you know jack fucking shit about their own culture and history. You all think it's only whites that moved here and all the niggers and spics were holding hands and singing love songs until white people showed the fuck up. Here's an idea, how about you put the fucking iphone down for 2 fucking minutes and read a fucking wiki page for once in your pathetic life, and MAYBE you'll learn something useful.

It shouldn't be illegal to be born somewhere else.

That's what it comes down to. If you're here but you're not a citizen, because you weren't born here, you're illegal. You have broken the law of "being born outside of America".

>You have broken the law of "being born outside of America"
But yet this logic ONLY applies to non-whites and the USA. Fags like you never say this bullshit in the reverse. If an American tries living in South America illegally, what benefits do they get? Does everyone have to learn English for them? No and again no, yet not a word from you or your team about that. No we have to be a country with zero laws but non-white countries can have any immigration laws they want.

Areyou gonna pay their plane tickets out of here? No right?

Here's a better idea, why don't you leave? Go to Israel, Japan Iceland or any other place without immigration or minorities.

>also them insinuations
Nigga you wh*te bois brought all this shit on yourselves. You came to some shithole over to the US because wasnt degenerate enough, then brought over niggers to do the shit work for you, then they got freed and you still bitch. You destabilize the South America and have all the spics at your door because all of South America is a shithole. Well, go back to Europe if the scary minorities scare you. Niggers aren't going anywhere, Chinks aren't going anywhere, spics are only gonna come in more numbers, so keep crying cracka.

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I never said this only applies to non-whites or the USA. You are putting words in my mouth.

>If an American tries living in South America illegally, what benefits do they get?

Protection from the FBI or law enforcement. No American illegally lives in South America if they aren't a criminal. There's literally no one bitching about S America being forced to learn English because US American to S American immigration isnt a thing retard.

>It shouldn't be illegal to be born somewhere else.
It is and should remain so. Even the shittiest of countries still have immigration laws. Ironically they are almost always more strict than America's.
The USA has some of the most lax immigration and residential laws of any nation.
>source: gone through it myself
I can tell you without a doubt that it was simple as fuck, and "hardest" part is waiting for replies.
In my country it is VERY difficult to get any type of permanent or even semi-long term visa.

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Nigger it's you and your spic friends that do all the fucking crying everyday, about all this bullshit about how racist and evil this country and white people are. Then why the fuck are you even here? Go live in fucking Africa with all the other monkey ass subhumans. Of course you motherfuckers don't do that because there ain't enough welfare for you to collect in Africa or South America. And SA is a shit hole because of the stupid ass spics that live there. Then they move here and recreate the exact same shithole they just fucking left, and they wonder why nobody fucking likes them. So yeah, if American is so racist and evil then get the fuck out. Why the fuck would I leave? I'm not the one bitching and demanding people's rights be taken away, because niggers are too fucking stupid to follow the fucking law. Go live in fucking Somalia if you wanna live in a lawless state.

You didn't have to say it. Everytime someone like you says this bullshit it's always implied. People like you are all smiles when illegals pour into the US. But if an American tries this bullshit in another country you stop smiling.

To push more unwary immigrants into a cycle of poverty and modern slavery, all the while fronting themselves as those who will help them out of it to gain political power. At least that's the aim of the party, not your everyday joe shmoe who decides to label themselves as democrats. Note that the republical *party* is also complicit in this for the same reasons, but that's not why your common man decides to call themselves that. It's a sad state of affairs.

I"m here because I was born here, I aint leaving.

>then why the fuck are you even here?
Why are you? All you're doing is complaining like a little bitch. Don't like illegal immigration here? Go somewhere else. That simple

>Why the fuck would I leave?

Because you're complaining like a little faggot. No one wants little faggots in America. Certainly I don't.

Not really. If I had it my way we wouldn't have open borders because we wouldn't have borders at all. We're all humans. Borders only serve to divide us.

I know it is but it's fucking dumb. No one gets to pick where they are born so we shouldn't be penalizing people for it. It's fucking stupid.

>No one gets to pick where they are born so we shouldn't be penalizing people for it.
It's not penalizing anyone. Being a citizen besides your native born country is a privilege, not a right. If a country wants to go fully isolationist, that is their choice. And no amount of globalist crying will stop that.
If you really need it spelled out for you, here you go:
youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE
Most countries only want immigrants that will help improve their economy, and thus society.
There is no benefit to letting millions of unskilled, uneducated Latin Americans into the US.

youtube.com/watch?v=T9Ezd2FqxAU
Even if the game wasn't flawless, this still sends chills up my spine.

Why do boarders want Democrats open?

wrong thread, ignore.

Why is being a citizen of a country other than the one you were born in not a right?

Because you have no claim to it. Yes you are a victim of circumstance. No flooding impoverish people to wealthy nations doesn't help them, and only hurts the target nation. Yes it is a bitter reality. Yes you must accept it. No it is nonnegotiable.
Better yet, for the sake of conversation. What if you wanted to move to my country? Why do you feel entitled to my homeland?

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Why did your ancestors feel entitled to colonize and impart your foreign policies on them? Reap what you sow

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So the CIA fucks up Latin America but spics are too fucking stupid to figure out how to stop them. But Japan and China fought massive scale wars, have been nuked TWICE, and been under foreign occupation, yet both of those countries manage to been major military and economic powers today. You mind explaining that one Juan?

Because they won. That's how conquering works.
Plus for the most part, my ancestors have been in the same area for over 2,000 years.
There are sections expanded upon that we conquered from our neighbors, but we took it and were able to hold it.
So yes, if you want to wage war and take land from whatever country then go for it. But the present occupiers are in the right to defend their claim and sovereign territory.
Also I'm not Amerimutt if you were thinking that. Just judging by the way you phrased it makes it seem like you are assblasted that the Europeans successfully conquered the Americas. I'm not American, but I do agree they are the rightful claim to it and recognize their nations. And I support them defending themselves for economic migrant invaders.

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Yes I do have a claim to it.

I have the ability to say anything I want. And it doesn't directly harm anyone for me to say whatever I want. Ergo, I have a natural right to free speech.

I have the ability to pack up my bags and move to fucking Honduras if I want. And if I find a piece of land that doesn't already have someone using it, then it harms no one for me to start living there. Ergo, I have a natural right to move to that piece of land in fucking Honduras.

And yes, I do feel entitled to a piece of your homeland. Are you using it? No? Then I have a natural right to take it.

Stop being a fucking cuck and stand up for individual rights.

It's a fucking retarded idea though. So you think a wall won't stop people, but fucking drones will? That makes no sense.

Because they feel guilty about being born in a wealthy country with options. They think they need to offer what we have to everyone else.

>I have the ability to pack up my bags and move to fucking Honduras if I want
Then do it you dick sucking faggot

My baby ;_;

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Not an argument.

I personally support the wall idea.
I was just showing him how retarded his identity politics were. I don't buy into that nonsense.

Because Japan was funded and is pretty much a puppet state of the US. They didn't just willy nilly prop their own shit up retard.

China has more than a billion people and they steal everything like niggers, fund projects in Africa to be their new colonial leaders, manipulate their economy to create artificial rises in their ecomony, like fucking up their housing market.

Also the drug wars are what are currently fucking up South America. We buy the drugs, send them guns and cash. It's not that hard Cletus.

Immigrants are currently going en masse to America and Europe today, pretty much exclusively from countries where they used to fuck with, that's my point. You can cry and bitch, but these immigrants arent killing and plundering to get here, they just do it.

Nudes?

I don't need an argument. What you are saying is absolutely moronic. Completely delusional and detached from reality. It's the same canned bullshit over and over. Hur Dur borders are racist, my ass.

In other words, those countries and it's people aren't retarded monkeys like spics. Got it.

>entitled narcissistic bullshit
>"individual rights"

You're gravely mistaking the two, son...

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>Immigrants are currently going en masse to America and Europe today, pretty much exclusively from countries where they used to fuck with, that's my point. You can cry and bitch, but these immigrants arent killing and plundering to get here, they just do it.
It doesn't matter if they are plundering or if they are Einstein or Hawking levels of intelligent.
It is up to the nation if they allow someone to enter or not.
It is a privilege to emigrate, not a right.

>Also the drug wars are what are currently fucking up South America. We buy the drugs, send them guns and cash.
Okay, so if we legalize all the drugs in the USA, will all the fucking spics finally stop coming here illegally? Or are you gonna make up another bullshit excuse for them? I have a strong feeling it's gonna be the latter.

Democrats don't want open borders. Libertarians do, because we believe in freedom, and follow the NAP.

If my argument is delusional, then point out the flaw. Here, I'll restate it for you:

>I have the ability to say anything I want. And it doesn't directly harm anyone for me to say whatever I want. Ergo, I have a natural right to free speech.

>I have the ability to pack up my bags and move to fucking Honduras if I want. And if I find a piece of land that doesn't already have someone using it, then it harms no one for me to start living there. Ergo, I have a natural right to move to that piece of land in fucking Honduras.

No, but you're the retarded monkey because you don't understand global politics, just wahh immigrantion bad!

Listen Cletus, the world is bigger than your trailer park and there are lots of things in play into why people immigrate to other countries, why certain countries surpassed other economies to become the second and third largest economies behind the US.

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Actually yeah, stopping the drug wars will be part of ending the mass immigration here.

Congrats Billy Ray, you get a gold star for the day!

Multiple people have already done just that. Again, people like you say this, but when an Americans tries this bullshit elsewhere all of a sudden there's a problem. It's complete hypocrisy. You smile and laugh as more and more uneducated fucks pour into the US, but if one of those people move in next door to you, suddenly you stop smiling. You only want them here if they stay in their containment zones and vote for democrat.

Funny that I've been using a huge increase in the name "Cletus" being thrown around.
It's almost suspiciously like you're a jidf shill or something. Weird.

Being such a cuck that you think standing up for your even your own most basic, fundamental rights is "entitled."

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the longest ive ever been at a dmv for was half an hour.
appointments are your friend.

Wow, bringing up Israel, your worldview is getting bigger by the second.

>Actually yeah
Yeah fucking right, as if you motherfuckers are gonna tell them "hey Juan you don't have to stop anymore!". I'm still waiting for Coach Peolsi to give that bullshit speech. All I'm hearing from your team is how we HAVE to take all them in, for reasons, and we need to "have a heart". Suck my fucking dick with this shit.

But apparently, waiting in line for a fucking ID is too much to ask for. He's probably one of those fags who think niggers don't know how to locate a fucking DMV or something.

No you dumb retard. The current drug wars in South America are funded by the drug buyers here. All the money funding the cartels isn't coming from Japan, it isn't coming from South Africa, or Australia, but the US.

No one is implying ending the drug wars will tell Juan to stop coming here. It's the first step to stabilizing South America at least. The ghettos will settle down, or at least the niggers will move on to selling other stuff besides drugs. Maybe they'll finally get a job or something.

You lose that gold star from earlier btw.

You're the one who's delusional. I'm working on a PhD in STEM at Yale. I'm an incredibly privileged guy. But I also spend about 40% of my time at my girlfriend's neighborhood in Washington Heights, Manhattan (she's a student at Columbia). Washington Heights is a poor neighborhood and is at least 80% Dominican. Is it problem? No. I'm not so sensitive that I can't handle people of another ethnic background simply living in the same neighborhood as me. The rent's cheaper there than elsewhere in the city. So they can take those apartments if they want to.

>I'm working on a PhD in STEM at Yale
Sure you are, what's the PhD? Dick sucking theory?

Democrats don't want open borders. Obama was worse than Trump & Bush when it comes to deportation and expansion of ICE. Don't believe me? Look at the statistics yourself.

Eh. I don't want to dox myself so I'll keep it sufficiently vague.

>Washington Heights

Jesus Christ, could you BE anymore fill of fucking shit?

city-data.com/city/Washington-Heights-New-York.html#b

Poor neighborhood my fucking ass. Nice try at the bullshit LARP though. Bet you were banking on the fact nobody would call you out on this bullshit, didn't you? I know exactly the type you are, you're one of those faggots who live in the nice part and then love to brag about how "diverse" it is, just like those fags from Jersey City. But if one of those dominican spics move in next door you would stop smiling real quick. You only tolerant them because they don't live next to you.

He cheated. He counted turning away people from the border as a deportation

We don’t ducking want open borders, we want to start “circular flow” again, which WILL flush illegal immigrants out of this country! Look it up if you don’t know what it means.

Also, this crazy assumption is not OK. We dems try to be nice, so ask us stuff. :)

Also in case anyone is wondering, here's how "diverse" washington heights is. Notice anything interesting?

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why does the national anthem say "land of the free" lol

Just read the Wikipedia page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Heights,_Manhattan#Community

"Today the majority of the neighborhood's population is of Dominican birth or descent (the area is sometimes referred to as "Quisqueya Heights"), and Spanish is frequently heard spoken on the streets."

The entire neighborhood is not necessarily poor because a lot of Columbia professors do live in the southern part of Washington heights. But her part of the neighborhood (in the lower 160s) is a vast majority Dominican and pretty poor, yeah.

Land of the free, not land of open fucking borders. There's a difference retard.

You can't be free if you have closed borders bro. Are people in prison free surrounded by barbed wire?

>"Today the majority of the neighborhood's population is of Dominican birth
>Even though HALF the people living there are white

Just stop posting. I proved you are a fucking liar and full of shit.

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People in prison broke laws, "bro", just like the people who cross illegally do. You clearly don't understand what land of the free even means.

"land of the free" except when we pick and choose lol its impossible to have a conversation with each other without everyone trying to come for each others necks

>country has laws
>claims to be free

Lol okay, you see what I mean when I say ALL of you 3rd worlders are fucking morons? This is why

Oh my god you're a fucking moron. That's not the statistics for the Washington Heights, Manhattan. That's the statistics for the TOWN OF Washington Heights, NY.

Totally different place.

Washington Heights, Manhattan is a neighborhood, not a town.

social security is going to run out of money unless something changes. There plan is to raise revenue by increasing the size of the population, which they imagine will expand the entire economy. Of course, their plan doesn't take into account that the current social safety net isn't breaking even or that expanding both services and the population given these services is incredibly likely to soak up all of the new revenue and then some.

For votes. They stay in office they receive both power and money. So they sell their country to 3rd worlders for personal gain. Pretty simple actually.

so that there will never be difference between another human being open your eyes people !!!

Because minority criminals are a majority with the dems.

You're right I didn't catch that. HOWEVER, here is the map of washington heights, manhattan. So my original assumption STILL turned out to be correct.

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Can someone layout for me all the reasons why open borders is bad. Educate me, so I have a clear understanding of both sides of the argument

Soft power that they can leverage into votes

city-data.com/neighborhood/Washington-Heights-New-York-NY.html

Here are the statistics for Washington Heights, Manhattan.

Median household income: $45,316. $13,000 less than the New York City average which is $58,856.

Not very rich, huh?

I don't want open borders.
I want no borders.

tell me this is bait. He must know that Americans are allowed to leave from and return to the US. Right? Right?

For an overpopulated section of manhattan, it's not exactly poverty-tier either. Besides, if liberals love all that sweet diversity so fucking much, why do most of them live in a small part of it? No smiling and joking there huh? They do the same thing in Jersey City. They claim they love spics and niggers, but if too many of them show up they stop smiling and start packing.

1: foreign labor undercuts native labor. It's outsourcing within the country
2: many foreign workers send their income out of the country
3: they consume resources, which are limited e.g. infrastructure, land, etc
4: illegal immigrants are more likely to commit crime than legal residents. Legal immigrants have to jump through a lot of hoops; it's no wonder they commit crimes less frequently than average citizens, but illegal immigrants are a different story.

As I said, the neighborhood is mostly Dominican. Whites are a small minority. Just look at the chart.

Percentage of people in the neighborhood who speak English "not well or not at all": 26.5%

It's not a matter of there being "too many" spics or niggers. Minorities are not inherently a problem. Despite the fact that the neighborhood is majority hispanic, it's still pretty safe.

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Because they want to fuck children. Age of consent is 10 in Mexico. Keep it red in 2020.

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Also: 25.8% of the population of the neighborhood is below the poverty line. That is actually "poverty-tier" I would say.

The people are free, the land is not. It's right there in your own sentence. No legal entry, no residence.

And what's the point of this?

That's because Dominicans, generally speaking, come here legally and don't act like retarded chimps. Of course it's fucking safe, because if they get arrested and commit crimes their visas will be taken and they will get deported. They aren't given special privileges like the fucking illegals. They are an exception, not the rule. You didn't answer my question though. If liberals love spics so much, why aren't they more spread out in WH? Why are the vast majority in the same fucking area?

>country=prison

Oh whoa, holy shit

Because that's where the rent is cheapest.

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The rent is the cheapest where all the white people live? Interesting, sounds like these "white people" are actually fucking kikes.

This. They don't love niggers or spics, the point is to appear that way, to prove they're better than other whites.

Because Latina children make good sex workers. Now quit asking

>Why do the democrats want open borders?

It's like how in the 60's boomers used to see how many people they could get into a phone booth.

The new game is called "zerg rush" and they're trying to see how many foreigners they can squeeze into the country before they can't get any more to fit.

No the rent is cheapest where the Dominicans live. And where my girlfriend lives. That's also why she lives there (lower 160s).

And the whites in the neighborhood might be kikes. I don't know. Doesn't make a difference to me. I'm not one, personally.

Also forgot to mention it doesn't hurt the fact these people get VETTED and go through a legal fucking process. We aren't importing literal criminals or scumbags that will collect welfare. Crazy, I know, almost like having an immigration system turns out to be a GOOD thing.

Exactly what I'm saying. I live in Jersey and I see it all the fucking time. These people are full of shit.

Guarantee you at least half of those people, if not more are jews. Most of the "whites" living in NYC aren't white, they're kikes larping as white.

Yeah, New York is pretty Jewish. No denying that.

Anyway. Where are you going with this?

Granted, I agree with you that people are more accountable when they immigrate legally. Maybe that's why Dominicans are "safer" than other Hispanics. But isn't that just all the more reason to let more people in legally? Rather than giving them an incentive to bypass the legal immigration system?

>Why do the democrats want open borders?
To scare snowflake Republicans.

We let in around 1 million immigrants into this country as it is. How many more do you want? We have motherfuckers on fucking welfare and homeless people here, and you want more? And you clearly missed my point. They are "safer" because we know who the fuck they are and we know they will earn their own way. They aren't coming here illegally and then demanding the US be turned into the fucking Dominican Republic like other spics do. If you wanna come here then do it legally. Otherwise you can suck my dick.

About half of all illegal immigrants fly here and overstay their visit. That's actually a pretty typical ratio globally.

>Less enemies.
FEWER!!!!