Hundreds of people die from assault rifles? Sorry, can't help you

>>no where in the constitution does it say you have the right to vape
The Constitution did not grant you rights. You have them. The Constitution limits the powers of government.
Civics 101.

Firearms will never catch up to the tobacco and its ilk, fuck off lib.

They don't give a shit. They think the sandniggers and chinks will be bros, not chop off their stoner heads.

Steam harder faggot.

I didn't know there vapeth amendment existed nor did I know it could be used to overthrow the government if it grew tyrannical

Trump today:
"That's how the First Lady involved. She's got a son -- together -- that's a beautiful young man, & she feels very very strongly about it."

Trump got cucked confirmed

Yes, I know its on Yea Forums. But a word please.

it's even sadder than that. Those people didn't even die of vaping. They died because they vaped some mysterious untested fluids they bought online cheaply.
In this specific case, the fluids where partly flavored with essential oils. And the lung tissue doesn't like to be cluttered with a oily film.

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this

>Manufacturing regulations = banning
Remember when the left used to care about these things?
>Muh Fords are catching fire, manufacturers must be held to standards
It's almost as if the left of yesterday, that actually cared about the things the left of today seems to think are their proprietary history, are actually the right of today, and the left of today are actually what the right of yesterday warned us about. It's hilarious how leftists somehow think that data about how much more affordable everything was in the past somehow supports their position, given that western societies have experienced nothing but a global translation to the left.
>But Trump is president
Trump is literally "today's right is yesterday's left" made manifest. Trump was literally a leftist in the late 90s - early 2000s, but leftist strategy is to paint the old leftists as "far right" so that even further leftists look "moderate" in comparison, and decades of this has got us where we are today. Muh "alt right", is literally just what happens when the right decide to set aside muh principles and start playing the same games Jews and leftists have been playing the entire time.

There is no "vape ban". There is potentially a ban on certain manufacturing practices that lead to unsafe products. There is nothing here that contradicts the pro-gun position. Gun manufacturers are already held to these kinds of standards and most gun rights advocates have no issue with it, as they would rather their guns didn't blow up in their faces.

Six for now, user. There's a shit ton of people still hospitalized. Imagine the butthurt if vaping actually kills more people than AR-15s this year.

>Hundreds of people die from assault rifles? Sorry, can't help you.

500,000 too 3 Million saved each year

>Six people die from vaping? Ban it.

not just six a hole much of heath issues
YOUR HYPOCRISY IS SHOWING

liberals
Vaping blame the user , not the vape

also liberals
shooting blame the gun not the shooter

Friendly reminder that flavored e-cigarette products were retarded to begin with and only used to appeal to the juvenile mind for the purpose of making money with the understanding that since you mongs have no fuckin self control there is a chance it may kill a few of you. Still statistically fewer than the number of you who die from texting and driving, incidentally. There’s a pattern there, I can assure you.

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that's a bad comparison because people don't go waving assault rifles around squeezing rounds off into the stray air that might kill you.

but they do however walk around blowing excessively large clouds of vapor for no reason that you have to pass through if you're behind them and it happens to me daily on the way to work (inner city).

When the vaping lobby in Washington gets as big as the NRA lobby, then it will be a protected right.

Pretty much this

Funny how they want to ban flavored e-cig flavors but not flavored cigars, blunt wraps or flavored alcohol. I wonder why?

I grew up in Miami. New years and the 4th and the super bowl and world cup...any excuse.

People fired their guns wildly into the air and a few people have been killed by bullets raining down.

Until then, fuck vaping faggots, long live the republic.

Seems pretty weird that someone would want to inhale a vaporized liquid with chemicals to make taste like blueberry muffins. What’s surprising is that this never struck anyone as even remotely hazardous when one considers the average teenager can buy this shit sight unseen from the internet because legitimate shops won’t sell to minors. It’s actually pretty funny when you think about just how stupid people are.

Hurr, I should be able to eat drink smoke inject anything I want in my body

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>"no where"

Why they makin muh vape illegul?

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Why do people make mixed drinks? Or flavored shots of alcohol? Why do flavored vodkas exist? Literally the same reason as flavored vape juice.

When was the last time you inhaled a shot of Malibu ya fuckin clown?

exactly, and the media and CDC play right into their fuckin hands. some assholes up north mix cartridges with vegetable/mineral oil instead of glycerin and everyone loses their fucking minds

Drinking a flavored mixed drink is just like vaping clouds of ice blue dragon fruit vape juice!

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Not banning the vape. Banning the flavors bro. Read your news. We will get aftermarket flavors anyway.

Just listen to yourself. You sound fuckin stupid

yup, you hit the nail on the head. it’s my right to kill myself however i wish, faggot

Maybe they should try to fix the fuckin vape problem instead of raging about it. Where's Hamilton when you need him?

They think the illnesses have been from black market thc vapes. Not flavored e-cigs, they argue flavors are to market youths, because the sweet and more palatable flavors...noa wgain why do flavores vodkas exist and why arent they banned?. Why doesnt everyone just drink plain straight vodka only?

>Hundreds of people die from
Car accidents
Plane crashes
Niggers
People die every day

Uh it's a ban on flavored vape fluid. It's a vape ban.

And those things aren't banned. Good job! You got the point!

Because you can vape allday erreday at 14 and no one would know or stop you. You can buy 2 weeks worth and put in your pocket. You can abuse it until your lungs collapse in months. At 14 it's not nearly as easy to get good flavors of vodka for cheap. 2 weeks of vodka is not easy to transport or store without people knowing. It's hella expensive and the volume of vodka you would have to do would be alot to abuse. You couldn't abuse vodka all day without people noticing. I understand the logic of the comparison, but logistically it would never workout if you exchanged flavored vodka for flavored vapes.

But how did that 14 get that vape or vape juice? They shouldnt be able to buy it in the first place. It should be not easier for them to get than cigarettes

vape show loophole
private sale
etc.

>vape show loop hole
Kek, what? I get what you mean but is this even real?

>private sales, etc
Same way people get booze or any other drugs illegally, so it's a non argument here

I'm not 14...but you can buy it online or from older kids. Vodka you cant buy online and need to know someone 21 of older and meet up with them. We bought two gallons of unflavored cheap vodka at 17 and it was a huge pain with consequences. Kids have access to vape juice in middle school through high school. They want to install vape detectors in the bathrooms because they cant wait to vape till after school.

You can have old people buy it for you isnt a legit reason to ban it. That excuse works for anything that has an age limit to buy. You can buy booze online and they could use their parents IDs without their permission to do it.

Because alcohol is regulated by the government and vape products are not. I mean, this isn’t fuckin rocket surgery or anything. So what’s so goddamn hard about this?

I'm never said the fda shouldnt regulate who buys it. I'm just saying banning flavors is dumb cause flavored alcohol is the same thing basically

Its different getting an envelope vs a box with class 3 flammable labels written on the sides.

Where there is a will there is a way. How the marketing of ecigs should change, who can buy them should change. But banning flavors because it targets minors is plain stupid.

Well, to be fair, those assault rifles were made for that purpose and they do it well.

Vapes shouldn't be killing, something has gone wrong with that product.

thats because the right to bear arms is protected by the constitution and your faggy mouth fedora is not you fucking moron

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SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.

What's so difficult to understand about that?

Flavored cigs were banned on the logic that flavored inhalants target underage individuals, so this would logically follow.

I can go to the store right now and buy flavored cigarillos

Now you are understanding the hypocrisy

Vaping isn't protected by the constitution. Shall not be infringed.

They did it with cloves. I'm not doubting people will find a way. I'm saying the vodka and vapes are not an apples to apples comparison. The thing is that its trendy and cool to vape as young as possible. It's way easier than cigarettes ever were. The flavors are for young adults but cotton candy? Cinnamon toast crunch? Fruit loops? Mountain dew? They are not exactly made with the refined palette in mind.

No, it’s actually not. Because it’s not regulated, the government can ban it for whatever reason they come up with.

We shouldn't ban either. Put a warning on, move on with your day. Living is dangerous and everyone is going to die.

What well-regulated militia are you a member of?

I'm a 2A advocate, and I agree with this.

You're not wrong.

The truth is, they’re banning ecigs because young people can’t be trusted to make good decisions. They can’t have you vaping. But it’s not like you dipshits are even trying to hide it. So because you have poor fuckin impulse control, you can’t fuckin have it anymore.

vaping is the most retarded pointless invention

You cant buy cloves anymore? And birthday cake vodka isnt a ridiculous vodka flavor and is specifically aimed for sophisticated vodka drinkers?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commerce_Clause

>The Congress shall have Power] To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
If it crosses state lines (or in any way affects trade across state lines, i.e. truckers use them in any state), Congress can control it.

I don't know why you started this with a hurr, unless you believe the government's responsibility is to monitor what its citizens put in their bodies, in which case we need to start banning food because its killing millions a year.

It’s like trump has to be your parents you’re so fuckin immature. And I don’t think I would feel very confident in myself if trump had to step in and do what’s best for me. I mean, that’d make me some kind of fuckin brainlet, wouldn’t it?

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Yeah tobacco lobbyists are great amirite?

That's why they're not allowed to vote, drive, or join the military too right?

Neither does a hillbilly with an AR15

Nah, I did that because this thread is full of juvenile brainlets. People are literally upset about the chance they might not be allowed to use flavored vapes and you’re saying we should ban food because it’s also bad for us? If you only knew how well you’re illustrating my point

A well regulated tobacco industry, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to vape, shall not be infringed.

>juul 75% of vape market - philip morris 35% owner
>vuse 10% of market - owned by british american tobacco

No, actually. The last I checked you can’t join the military until you’re 18. This whole thing came about from dipshit teenagers in middle and high school putting themselves in the hospital by vaping until they literally passed out. How does your statement refute this?

One hillbilly with an AR15 can't but there is a fuck ton more than one hillbilly with guns and THEY can.

Actually yes you should. It's called self sovereignty, which is supposed to be guaranteed by the Constitution. Ya know the whole "Life, Liberty, Pursuit of Happiness" bit that big daddy ignores every time

>Hundreds of people die from assault rifles?
there are zero assault rifles in the us
tell me where all the automatic weapons are

>18 year olds don't count as young people

>don't have the freedom to do what I want with my body
American freedom is a facade. Human rights don't exist. We should have the right to die by our own hands but instead we get retarded excuses like mental illness, afterlife, and other bullshit.

Instead of offering help for potential school shooters we argue that guns shouldn't exist. Instead of suicide offers for people who don't care about their life we ban them because hurr durr life is precious.

What do we get in 2019? Tobbaco smoking. Because it kills you way slower. Vaping kills too fast.
Humans are retarded I swear. The longer you prolong someone's pain and misery the more it's considered morally right and accepted.

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No they can't, because 90% of them lack leadership and discipline. Literally just idiots in sheds with bullets. If they ever got organized, and had leadership, different story entirely

Yeah it's sad. Maybe one day we'll actually grow up as a species

Vape companies don't contribute to the republican party

THIS
No seriously, it's this

The problem with this is when you dumbfucks get sick and the medical bills start rolling in then you start crying to the media and government and also the inevitable lawsuits that follow.

nice hyperbole pal

>implying being old enough to join the military makes one responsible

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Why do people hate mass murderers? They’re doing the world a favour!

That's exactly what I'm not implying kek

They're hated because they could be walking into the Senate to get the job done right but instead they're imbeciles that wanna take out their hate on random bystanders. That's why they're hated because they're fucking retarded

Okay

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Its happening right now in NY. Thats why our hard -line lib governor is banning them before Trump even has a chance to.

That's irrelevant. That line was not a qualifier for the existing right.
Furthermore, "well-regulated" did not mean "subject to government regulations", as you would know if you understood the context in which the founders wrote it.
And finally, whenever independent militias have been formed in the last few decades, it's collectivists whiners like you who decry them as istaphobes.
Go back to your hugbox. Grownups are talking.

Learn English grammar, ESL. The right belongs to the people for the purpose of militia, not to the militias.

>tfw european
Kekistani get what they deserve. Enjoy cancer vaping done right without oils and diacethyl is fine af

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>being so retarded

He is so cool. Now he gave 100000 $ against weed instead of relegalizing it and make the most profit ever. Fuck kp, free the people of china. Attac kp in hk.

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the US are literally a shit tier country with a disgusting retarded crook at the top, this kind of shit is proof they deserve their sad fate

Also this:

washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/administration-finalizes-repeal-of-2015-water-rule-trump-called-destructive-and-horrible/2019/09/11/fddfa49a-d4aa-11e9-9343-40db57cf6abd_story.html

enjoy your polluted water, retards

Was there ever a time when Yea Forums wasn't /pol/?

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*they're

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. The open secret: we do not speak of it.

>even though the right to bear arms is in the constitution yet republicans didnt care their president violated it

thankfully most of the people dieing from gun violence happen to live in democrat communities.we should be celebrating mass shootings instead of taking the guns away because you live in a fantasy world where everybody obeys the law

>fight against tyranny

so is this the left's new buzzword?

Better get yourself a musket then nigger.

So what stops the government banning vaping if you have the right? Because it looks like they are about to and deny you your rights

>well-regulated militia
"well-regulated" in from the 16th century through the 18th century was equivalent to saying "properly functioning"

"On every question of construction [of the constitution] let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning can be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one which was passed." - Thomas Jefferson

>well-regulated militia
>"well-regulated" in from the 16th century through the 18th century was equivalent to saying "properly functioning"
>"On every question of construction [of the constitution] let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying what meaning can be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, conform to the probable one which was passed." - Thomas Jefferson

"In colonial times the term ‘well regulated’ meant ‘well functioning’ ― for this was the meaning of those words at that time, as demonstrated by the following passage from the original 1789 charter of the University of North Carolina: ‘Whereas in all well regulated governments it is the indispensable duty of every Legislatures to consult the happiness of a rising generation…’ Moreover the Oxford English Dictionary defines ‘regulated’ among other things as ‘properly disciplined;’ and it defines ‘discipline’ among other things as ‘a trained condition.’"

>So what stops the government
The Four Boxes: Soap, ballot, jury, ammo.
We're somewhere to the left or right of jury, depending on the issue.

Adults are entitled to throwing their lives away but teen, repeat after me, TEEN smoking has gone up due to vaping right? Those ain't adults and although I personally don't think banning shit will instantly solve all of our problems it will at least slow them down, if that's what's being proposed it's pefectly reasonable, I just disagree.

Well I’m 37 and love my delicious strawberry mister salty low nicotine brand so there

>Those ain't adults
Which means it's the responsibility of their parents and guardians. The government has even LESS role to play by your argument.

Because they are difarrent

Well as Trump has packed the supr me court with his patsies it doesn’t look as though “juty” will work, so what’s going to happen about Trump’s proposed vaping ban?

brilliant observation
thanks for playing

Dr. Mike even made a video about it on normietube because as a doctor it concerned him; I think you're not putting yourself on parents' shoes. In any case as previously stated people have a constitutional right to bear arms, the part that's immoral has nothing to do with guns or deaths, it has to do with prohibiting consenting adults from a monetary transaction that's legitimate instead of adressing the problems with teens that make them vape in the first place.

I love how people die from other shit like alcohol and cigarettes every day but we're "urged to stop vaping immediately" because 6 people died of it

The government isn't some mysterious force, there are parents there or just people who see the situation and are legitimatelly concerned. By the logic you use CPS shouldn't exist.

Not much since the soybois who care are already in the streets in their black masks throwing concrete milkshakes at evil cishet white men.

they were white, so...

>packed the supr me court
You mean fulfilled his constitutional obligation to appoint justices in the event of death and retirement?

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>By the logic you use CPS shouldn't exist.
It shouldn't!

>american education

I see you've just awoken from a 50 year coma. We have these things called "planes" and "missiles" now. They're pretty cool

Well... oh lord.... fuck it, what would you do then if a parent was abusing their family? Not all parents are good or responsible or morally wise, how'd you handle that?

The Constitution does not GRANT rights.
Rights are not given by ink on paper.
The Constitution RECOGNIZES rights.
Rights are taken, and gunpoint, and paid in blood.
The rights you have now don't come from the Constitution. They come from a pile of dead redcoats who tried to say otherwise, and a pile of dead patriots who said over their dead body, and then didn't fucking die.
They are maintained by your willingness to keep adding to the pile, and when your willingness runs out, the government will have no reason to continue recognizing your rights.

Vaping does kill people you fuckwad. But i agree thats dumb to ban it lol. Ciggies are better.

Well said, though I think you're quoting someone

No it's not. Vape companies absolutely donate to the GOP. A bunch of them are even owned by big tobacco companies

¡ Z i n g !
Jajajajajajajajaaaaa!

You want a quote?
"If your enemy says this isn't the hill to die on, offer to let him step down first. Otherwise, all hills are the hill to die on."

They changed cloves to cigars and you can buy them like that. You are right, it's marked to young adults or to making weird mixed drinks...but birthday cake vodka tastes like shit and blue raspberry vape tastes like a slushie. I cant imagine a kid buying birthday cake vodka and it tasting better than regular vodka mixed with anything else unrealistic.

;-)

The point isn't that you can win pitched battles against a professional army with all its ordnance, as a rag-tag citizens' militia with small arms. The point is that you CAN FIGHT. You can bleed them. When they come patrolling through your neighborhood, you might be able to take a couple of the fuckers with you. Hell, you might even be able to run away and do it again; they couldn't engage in endless "manhunts" for everyone who resisted them. They'd never feel safe and there could be shooters behind any window.

Of course, they COULD call in the artillery and air-support and level your neighborhood, sure. What would this get them though? Well, it would piss a lot of people off when innocents died and play into the hands of rebels. It would make a lot of the soldiers in that professional military seriously consider whether they were doing the right thing or not. Finally, it would simply kill people, and NO ONE wants to rule a nation of corpses.

The aim of a tyrant is to control, not to kill. What they want is to be able to have militarized police & gestapo point guns at people and cow them into submission to whatever dictates they want to impose. If citizens are instead waiting behind their doors and ready to shoot first when the jackbooted thugs come around, they've already failed.

So, the point is to fight. If you resist, you're not being controlled, and you're also undermining attempts to control others who can't or won't fight. Yes, you might die, of course. However, that's why Patrick Henry said what he famously said, more or less.

"As long as people can resist, they can be free, and tyrants can never succeed." When you're talking about using swords, knives and clubs against modern military weapons though, it ACTUALLY becomes pointless, because you can't bleed them at all. They'll just shoot you with beanbags, rubber, water cannons, microwave guns and other submission devices.

That's why Americans having guns is so important.

>how'd you handle that?
You're aware that civilization existed for several thousand years, right? That the problems have plagued us for all that time and various solutions have been developed in every culture to handle it?
In the American culture, this role was assumed by extended family, the church, or charity.
You know what makes it worse? Welfare. And more specifically, a system which increases the size of the check based on the number of children. It incentivizes neglect and its expansion.
Unintended consequence. But that's government.

Ok yeah but I was just unsure if your first reply was quoting someone, still, that's cool

Fck kp. Cia niggers glow brightly.

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Are you so politically retarded that you think "fight against tyranny" is left wing? Do you think "America is a Christian nation" is a slogan for the nation of Islam, too?

Free yourdelf from the deep state niggers trump. Kill the guy working the brainwave machine. Dont be like the nigger obongo.

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>Six people die from vaping

false flag attack financed by big tobacco

>we have this thread every day
He called for the ban yesterday

Yeah. Transhumanism instead of fear. Ethernal life without dead through human mind uploading. Jesus was a male prostitite invented by the opus dei. Kill deep state liars and devils on sight.

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Ooh! Ooh! Let me jump in and mention that the majority of welfare recipients in the US are white, which is irrelevant to your point, but will subtly imply racism on your part when your point had absolutely nothing to do with race!

You glow brightly cia nihger. Kill yourself.

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But white trash loves the yellow titts. Nevertheless the fries oil gets only changed once a year due to the chemicals. Weed instead of 56%ers.

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Hey don't get me wrong I'll be the first to say the amount of welfare some people get is just wrong but that's not what I mean, let's adress that first point.
Just because society has survived and advanced through time doesn't mean everything of it is ultimately good, therefore saying "Society made it through a lot while having this thing (which is a bad thing and not what contributed to society lasting so long)" then that's just plain wrong. Then you said extended family, well they could be bad guardians too especially since a bad father usually comes from a bad upbringing right? The church, well I figure you're American and I know religion's a big thing there but it's not like that everywhere, even catholicism. And charity is just unreliable, do you at least agree with adoption? Kek

The majority of welfare recipients are indeed white.
Now do it per capita, nigger.

Stop gerymandering cia nigger and kys.

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Nice clapback, but I think they were joking

This.

Shhiiiiiiiiiiii Tyrone. Make it mandatory that you vape every time you're in Wal-Mart.
#ProblemsSolved

Stop blocking voter Id

No. Look at all the 56%ers in southern states. The purge USA only November 4th staring at Keyne Wests house could solve the problem of inferior white trash genetics. Kill white trash. Kill a langly falls negro glower. Kill tge glowers.

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Stop allowing voters who aren't net taxpayers.
> No taxation without representation!
Yeah but you ain't being. So you aren't.

Stop spying on working people cia nigger. Go be glowing somewhere else. Now finally delete yourself. Its easier that way. You know Ill win. Stop promoting your subhuman Agenda Jeff.

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that's because he makes $$$$ from tobacco companies.

ITT: nu-male beta cuck redditors don't know the difference between the freedom to protect yourself and getting cancer from the mouth fedora.

Anyone who wants to mass shoot will find the guns wehter they are legal or not, only an absolute retard would believe otherwise.

How does it feel to protect pedophiles and blood drinking reptiloids? Please delete yourself cia nigger. End your life deep state shit. Wannabe freemason.

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Yeah no joke. I really don't understand why retards on here like him, he's literally the biggest kike tool ever

Every civilized nation in Europe is retard with french murderrates that are 1% of your 3. World shithole. Kys. Canada fuck them all to dead. Grab your gun kys. I have a tranny and a girl for fuckening. You shouldnt be alloed to speak churchy.

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I dont have to use your fake ways. I talk to old people to change their mind. I am not a manipulative evil fuck like you deep state nigger. Kys. Legalize weed. Close the deep state niggers insitution like cia, academi and kill all their members. 1 btc for each glowing deep state skalp. Yihaaa.

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>640x825
nice large thumbnail, faggot

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you DO realize that o b a m a said he inherited a mess when he took office and also wants credit for the current economy, right?

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you should probably just kys if you’re literally worried about being harmed by second hand vape while walking outside

Just yesterday in fact.

The bigger question is, why isn't this being reported by any country other than the U.S.? No other countrynin the world is seeing alleged vape related illnesses... It's obviously staged.

U say that now faggot until someone is in your house dry fucking your girl. All while u hide in the corner like a bitch.. Defenseless and wet with your own piss..

Thats what you would do cia nigger. I spend my days watching what i can never have through the disease your kind gave me deep state shit. Kys. Just take the next train and throw yourself infront of it. Time is ticking in l shitfuck.

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>The bigger question is, why isn't this being reported by any country other than the U.S.? No other countrynin the world is seeing alleged vape related illnesses... It's obviously staged.
the bigger big question is, why are you so ignorant?
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_of_electronic_cigarettes

It's not staged, it's shitty black market product to maximize profit from dumb niggers who just got busted recently in Kenosha, WI.

Its not about the leading clown. Your kind is the mess in the world you are not superior, your way of thinking is inferior. Stop lying tell about your newest mk ultra programm cousing mental diseases in people+sexchange in whistleblowers. Kill academi cia deep state fucks. My hate grows with your comment. Your kind is responsible for the evil, masonic rotarian retard elitist shit kys. Kys. Kys. Or tell what obongo did to hunter s. Thomson and others, made them kill themself by mind altering substances. Kys. Kys kys. Tell what the mi567 does to people, what strinking terror really means. Gonna murder you all, in person with a hammer, after torture. Ill start in G. In that building you brought me the 3 days im not supposed to remember. Im gonna murder. Your kind. Your kind only. What lenin said about you was right.

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ok

>>govt crushes a business
>>capitalism

I dont think that word means what you think it means