Please help me to not be racist. The more I research race and crime...

Please help me to not be racist. The more I research race and crime, the more I come to the conclusion that blacks are just inherently more violent than whites. Since they do 7 times more murders, 2 time more hate crimes, they've done 10 times more mass shootings than whites in 2019, they abuse children 3 times more, it goes on and on. I've thought about the argument: "Poverty is the main contributing factor to crime, not race. about 25% of the black population is poor and 10% of the white population is poor, so that is why they commit more crimes." but when you think about it, there are over 2 times as many poor whites, and once you're arrested, you go to jail and can not commit another crime for a long long time. So why is it every year, the crime rates do not change? People have told me, it's because of racism that caused their culture to deteriorate and they get segregated into ghettos, so it's white peoples fault they murder. Well, the irish people were enslaved and had racism committed against them, yet they didn't happily glorify the amount of toxic, violent culture that blacks have. That leads me to believe that whites are inherently less violent than blacks. Can you guys help me with what I'm missing?

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Ask yourself why you think having these thoughts is evil
Realize that 99.9% of humans born were more 'racist' than you are.

stupid fucker do you really think white people haven't gotten involved in africa? Why do many african countries speak french then dipshit. Of course if you come in and take all the resources from an area while routinely destabilizing their governments there will be poverty. Read a book besides the turner diaries you stupid fucker

I forgot to mention that my statistics are from the FBI website and about the USA. So I'm not talking about africans. But if you look at the murder rate of blacks, it's almost identical to the murder rates of majority black countries in sub saharan africa.

taking statistics without cultural and socioeconomic context to confirm what you wanna believe is stupid as fuck. murder rates of those in extreme poverty is consistent across racial lines. Maybe you should be asking yourself why there are so many poor people and who benefits from making you think it's about race and not about class.

you are wrong, murder rates of those in extreme poverty are NOT consistent across racial lines. There are over 2 times more whites in poverty than blacks in poverty, yet blacks commit 7 times more murders. And I the reason there are so many poor people is because our government keeps giving us a fish instead of teaching us to fish. Welfare is basically a way to enslave voters into having no choice but to keep voting in these socialist plantation owners. They have grown up learning no skills and rely on the taxpayer for their daily lobster and t bone steak.

proportionally, there are wayyyyyy more black people in poverty than white so that definitely doesn't make the point you think you're making lmao. lmao you are dumb as FUCK thank god white people are increasingly infertile so less human thumbs like you will be running around shooting up schools

Shut the fuck nigger lover

instead of insulting me, help me understand. There is a higher percent of the black population in poverty, that I agree with. But if you're talking about raw numbers, there is twice as many whites in poverty. Wouldn't that mean that there should be at least 2 times more white murders than blacks? Since there is 2 times more poor whites. Once you go to prison, you wont commit another crime for many many years, yet the rates of crimes stay the same.

plus I do not condone violence or threaten violence in any way. I just hold the position that maybe segregation isn't such a bad thing if it turns out that blacks are just genetically predisposed to being more violent than whites.

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Everyone ITT needs to read this:

"I am a public defender in a large southern metropolitan area. Fewer than ten percent of the people in the area I serve are black but over 90 percent of my clients are black. The remaining ten percent are mainly Hispanics but there are a few whites.

I have no explanation for why this is, but crime has racial patterns. Hispanics usually commit two kinds of crime: sexual assault on children and driving under the influence. Blacks commit many violent crimes but very few sex crimes. The handful of whites I see commit all kinds of crimes. In my many years as a public defender I have represented only three Asians, and one was half black.

As a young lawyer, I believed the official story that blacks are law abiding, intelligent, family-oriented people, but are so poor they must turn to crime to survive. Actual black behavior was a shock to me."
amren.com/features/2014/05/confessions-of-a-public-defender/

>Fuck off with that mile of obvious statements.
Just keep it civil, I'm perfectly fine with educated black people, just for the fact that they are educated and civilized because they don't act like niggers and you can clearly tell it's something that makes them feel shame.

Ironically one of the nicest guys I've ever met is a mormon which is a black dude.

It's not that US blacks are inherently violent, it's just the culture they've adopted from shitty southern people then moved to where that culture is no longer viable but keep it anyways because it's all that they can identify with which leads them to move near each other which leads to a vamping up of said culture into what it is today.

I mean that's still a poorly placed bike lane. It should be centrally placed, to avoid pedestrian and vehicular conflict.

the biggest wars in history were started by whites, between whites. but hey, i guess murder's worse than genocide lol

He wasnt talking proportionately. He was looking at overall numbers. He took the correct view. You are an idiot that spouts excuses for negro behavior

It has to be hard to break that cycle. Niggers have a culture that if you are inteligent, smart/nerd and concerned about the future, you are acting up "white". So your fellow niggers despise you and the other people will always be on their toes because they'll think of you as another dumb violent nigger.

I mean, I dont really think Im racist because in the end I treat people as they treat me, regardless if they are niggers, faggots or sjw fruit landwhales. However it is hard for me to make a transition from niggers to black people until they proove it, if that has sense.

You are ignorant by definition of the term if you are not racist

God Yea Forums creates such weak faggots.

Everytime I see a conservabro it's the same thing "man, there's a kid who ate lunch by himself every day and couldn't get some quality pussy if their life depended on it"

Moral of the story, learn to critically think. Don't be a waste of oxygen that everybody hates and I have to keep alive with my tax dollars

I use to hold the same sentiment until I started working with black people. Talk to them away from other blacks and they're just people.

You aren't racist.

I thought I was racist too, until you realize you've been programmed by the MSM and school system to think you are racist.

You are noticing obvious patterns.
They want to deny those patterns to fit their ideology of "equality" and "diversity"

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nope

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It's not just blacks. Poor white people from southern culture do the same thing which was brought over to the US from British and Irish herders. You'll find the same stereotypes in most herding culture around the world including the Middle East where that type of mindset is pivotal and a necessity.

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sure, bud.

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Blacks are the most racist people out there if you really get to know them. But its weird that they will fuck over other blacks behind their back any time they get a chance.

Black people commit more crime. Violent and nonviolent. It's not just unfair drug crimes like the MSM says it is

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You said nope then proved my point. Not being racist is ignorant to facts

You should probably do more research into African societies. The African American pattern of behaviour has emerged from very particular historical circumstances. It would be interesting to see statistics on crime from the more affluent African countries to compare.

It's probably the case that African American society developed totally disconnected from any meaningful tradition or culture, and was also separated from the American society as a whole. Those circumstances probably led to a lack of healthy social and moral norms in African American society.

I've seen the same stats for rural white people m8, you're not proving anything. Just that you feel so insecure in yourself that you need to save those pictures to show you aren't as aped as black people.

It's not ignorant to be aware of facts and obvious patterns about Black people

Noone is saying "All black people..."
But the obvious trend is that in general among the black population, blacks commit more crime and have lower IQs.

Having a lower IQ would explain everything. The violence, the poverty and black culture

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>bro u r wrong
>lol u r just insecure incel lol
That's going to convince people...

Don't talk yourself out of it. Niggers gonna nig.

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>Having a lower IQ would explain everything.

It explains it because you want it to. And you haven't bothered to look at other factors, socioeconomic, historical etc.

I'm not trying to convince anyone, just pointing out the obvious.

>It would be interesting to see statistics on crime from the more affluent African countries to compare.

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What is the bell curve.

The low IQ would explain the socioeconomic factors. It would explain the historical factors.
That's what I meant when I said "it would explain everything."

Why is it that Asian kids from the same poverty ghettos end up being wealthy in 2-3 generations?

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eh, violence perpetuates violence. there are tons of areas where whites are poor and are violent as fuck. it just so happens in major cities there are typically mostly minorities. the reality is if raised in a good way and in a good environment, blacks turn out just fine and can go on to do good things.

this should be all the evidence you need to realize that environment plays a major role in who you are.

i would also like to point out to you that when you surround yourself with things of that nature (narratives that blacks are more violence, statistics about it, etc) you are really just inundating yourself with information without taking all context into consideration.

even if blacks commit more crimes than whites, so what? it still remains that blacks can be raised to not be violent at all, so the only logical thing to conclude is not that blacks are more inherently violent - this is not a helpful conclusion.

the proper conclusion is that there is something about the culture (idolization of sex, drugs, gangs, money) that perpetuates this cycle, along with poverty and bad parental figures.

So you don't have the stats to prove your point then?
Ok great.
You confirmed that you are retarded

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Not representative

>even if blacks commit more crimes than whites, so what? it still remains that blacks can be raised to not be violent at all, so the only logical thing to conclude is not that blacks are more inherently violent - this is not a helpful conclusion.
>the proper conclusion is that there is something about the culture (idolization of sex, drugs, gangs, money) that perpetuates this cycle, along with poverty and bad parental figures.

That's retarded.
Because it just ignores certain facts for your ideology of "equality"

"Hey 1 black guy I know isn't violent, so that means blacks aren't more likely to commit crimes!"
That's retarded.
Noone is saying it is all Black people. But Black people as a group do way more crime and bullshit on average than any other race.

Where does the culture come from?
It could be from IQ which is 80% biological. But you aren't allowed to think that because then you are a "ignorant racist nazi homophobe!" and aren't allowed to talk.

again, different circumstances. whites don't have the same culture as black. black culture is fucked. this doesn't mean they are more inherently violent. your statistics don't prove what you think they prove. this is what happens when you surround yourself with toxicity btw. it's why people who are depressed/have mental illness and come to Yea Forums tend to get wallow in it.

ironically, it's a similar reason why a lot of young black men end up violent. they are surrounded by violent toxicity where they don't back down, join gangs, care about "respect", and get into fights, among other things.

what are you talking about? blacks are more likely to commit crime....that IS NOT THE SAME THING as blacks being more inherently violent.

Why not?

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But where does this culture originate? Answer=blacks

You're jumping into the tail end of a conversation, if you bothered reading you'd see that I wasn't defending black people.

I administer IQ tests. I promise you that there are flaws in determining someone's IQ, especially when culture is taken into consideration.

How about this, what would it take for you to change your mind? You want people to not be racist but rather than acknowledge any point someone makes or state what it would take to change your mind, you just link to an infographic.

Do you not think tests are biased? Do you not think those pictures you're posting are biased? They were created by a person trying to push an agenda, much like the leftist media you likely speak out against.

>ironically, it's a similar reason why a lot of young black men end up violent. they are surrounded by violent toxicity where they don't back down, join gangs, care about "respect", and get into fights, among other things.

And where does Black culture come from?
Why is it most other races in the exact same socioeconomic circumstances of Blacks, come out ahead eventually?

Why do you reject so strongly that people who evolved in a different part of the Earth over hundreds of thousands of years, maybe evolved a little differently in regards to IQ?

Despite all the welfare the group receives, they still can't get out of their predicaments

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And this proves that blacks are somehow more inherently violent? Because in a certain situation and certain stimuli they react a certain way? What is your point exactly?

There are parts of the US that are rural whites who have similar issues - drugs, poverty, etc.

You're missing the point. How does anything you've said prove that blacks are INHERENTLY violent. Do you realize how difficult of a thing that is to prove?

lefturdism is a religion
give us the conditions you'd accept as proof that blacks are inferior
you cant because your shit is irrational

Lol I don't reject strongly, I just think you are blinded by the internet's racism and as a result aren't thinking objectively at situations. Just because whites are in similar situations doesn't make the 2 situations the same.

Yeah welfare has its downsides you know. For example, if you make a certain amount, you can't get it. Not that there are many job opportunities in low income areas to begin with. If you're in that situation, are uneducated, and all you know is the gang world/have shit all else and life has no meaning you do stupid shit. Whites do this all the time. How does this prove blacks are more inherently violent again?

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I think you have a lot more problems than just racism. You are angry. You refuse to even try to look at the point of view of other people. This is your problem. Until you work on this, you likely will not change.

>I promise you that there are flaws in determining someone's IQ
Name 3.
Change my mind.
You just say shit like "no, I know better than you because reasons...and you are ignorant."

You aren't even critically thinking right now, or making any arguments against mine.

The crux of the issue seems to be 2 things:
1. Is it "racist" to notice obvious patterns between black people and white people
I say no.
2. Are the differences between Black people and white people Cultural or Biological?
I'm saying it's both at the very least. But everyone is denying the biological aspect and can't name 1 reason why.

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a history of oppression and socioeconomic stagnancy due to anti-black policy has stunted their socioeconomic growth

and as wealth disparity has increased, so has the inavailability of work to people without college education which is something the lower class cannot afford to begin with. It's a cyclical problem; you need money to get opportunities to raise your socioeconomic status and get money, but the way to get that money demands socioeconomic status. So blacks being predominantly trapped in the lower classes due to a history of oppression and classism causes them to be the primary victims of that wealth disparity

to understand why they commit so many more crimes, understand that crime has always been predominant among the lower classes and oppressed groups. wealthy people have less to gain by being criminals than poor people.

it's not behavior ingrained in their race, it's a statistical result of being the lowest class due to the circumstances your race was brought to the states under.

>murder rates of those in extreme poverty is consistent across racial lines.
nope
poor whites are less violent and less dumb than rich niggers

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>Not that there are many job opportunities in low income areas to begin with. If you're in that situation, are uneducated, and all you know is the gang world/have shit all else and life has no meaning you do stupid shit. Whites do this all the time. How does this prove blacks are more inherently violent again?

Why do the neighborhoods not have many job opportunities?
Why aren't Blacks good at school?
Why are their so many gangs in Black neighborhoods? I say the result is a lower IQ on average.
Yes, it is caused by the culture there. What caused the culture?
Why do other races always do better than Blacks?

I wrote something a while back about why Black people are overrepresented in the NFL and NBA and I think it will answer your questions and acknowledge the culture society factors as well.
Let me find it.

>Whites do this all the time. How does this prove blacks are more inherently violent again?
I just posted 10 infographics on how this is not true.

You have to be baiting at this point.

Let me explain something to you about this "Black People are better at sports/Black People are taller/stronger/faster/more athletic" meme.

Black Men are over represented in sports because of their culture.
Black Men are not more physical, stronger, or even taller on average.
Tallest country in the world? Denmark.

Imagine you are a Black Kid in the inner city.
You likely only have a mom at home. You are poor. Your city is full of crime. You have a low IQ and aren't good at school. Your dad is in jail or just left for a pack of cigarettes and never came back.
Your mom is working 2 jobs and can't watch you very much so you don't do your homework, you can't learn a musical instrument because your school doesn't have it, you go around either doing hood rat shit or playing ball.

You have no options.
You aren't good at school.
You don't have the resources to learn something else (musical instrument, drama class, art class, film, computer programming, STEM classes)
You don't have any job opportunities because your neighborhood is shit.

Black "Culture" is one of crime and degeneracy, and the only way for a Black Kid to find success in such a terrible culture is in only 1 area: Sports.

Black Kids don't have their time split among different things.
They aren't studying for SATs, or studying Music, or Art, or anything. They aren't even hanging out with their mom or dad because they are never at home.

This culture fosters out more professional sports athletes because it can't produce anything else.

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your vaginal argument is pathetic
we know your point of view: we used to be lefturds like you
then we broke away from kike programming

It is much harder to prove they are not inherinately violent. If you have any background in anything besides fake race equality, you would have run across the idea that the simplest solution is the most likely. Ie. Blacks commit more violent crimes would lead you to believe blacks are more violent

You forgot rap music

And gangs

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Poverty breeds poverty. Shitty culture breeds shitty culture. They are more likely but so would other races be in their position.

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So.. your theory consists of shitty nigger parents creating great athletes, yes? What about all of the white helicopter parents paying any amount of money on any type of private athletic coach. Irelevant huh Freud?

That wasn't my point at all, retard.
Imagine a city of 1 million blacks and 900,000 of those blacks are all working extremely hard at being a good athlete because that's the only way to get out of the hood for them.
Now imagine a city of 1 million whites.
Maybe 25,000 would work hard at becoming an athlete.
The rest would work on school work, get a job, open their own business, pursue music as a hobby, hang out with BOTH of their parents, read, play video games, study in their STEM classes, focus on studying for the ACT/SAT, and a whole multitude of other things.

Whites have their time split among many good things.
Blacks only focus on only 2 things and become hyper specialized: Athletics and Rapping

And the Blacks who fail at becoming NFL players or a rap artist?
Get into gangs which is 95% of the ones who try

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Here is a theory that makes a little more sense. The American negro was hibridized with white blood and only the strongest were bred in slave times. The runts didnt survive the boat ride here. They were bred like dogs to be strong

That would make sense except for the fact that Black people are on average the fattest and most unhealthy people in America.
And that Black men on average are not taller than White men. They are actually slightly shorter.

I've known many white guys who are 6'1+ who didn't even join the football team or basketball team because they wanted to be in drama club or some shit

Im a 6' white man who played all the sports. So did the negroes. They are different.
Look Ive been to Mexico a bunch of times and I am taller than most, but obviously not all of them. That is a fact and there are obviously exceptions.
Dont hang out with drama geeks btw

>Look Ive been to Mexico a bunch of times and I am taller than most, but obviously not all of them.
Obviously.
It's like people don't understand bell curves and distributions...

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Dipshits will spout anything to avoid the fact that negroes are a problem in every society they are a part of. The more blacks, the worse it is. Fucking facts

According the the king chimp (obama) himself, if you're born without a father in the home, you're 5 times more likely to been poor, 9 times more likely to drop out of school, and 20 times more likely to go to prison, and 75% of black kids are born without their father.

as much as i hate niggers, the reason why the land in that pic is fucked is due to oil companies like shell exploiting the shit out of the land, dirtying all the water sources and dipping

Lol, if "least diverse" is the worst thing about that state, sign me up.

It was that way long before shell arrived on the scene, friend.

Have you ever considered the implications of the social environment in the individual development of oneself? The conclusions you're making are fallacious since you are not considering all the things that affect human development in society and as an individual.

Well we can lie if you need us to op. But the facts are facts. Sorry its not racist. Black men dont raise their kids. Black women have more abortions. More likely to be on government assistance.

Now if we can build the wall. Stop all this diversity bullshit. Stop mass fag shit they pushing we would be good.

inb4 'I ain't considering nothing, I just hate niggers and you can't stop me'.

I agree blacks are dumber overall, but your pic just shows that you're a retard. Of course russians will be known for their achivements if there's an aristocrat class that is wealthy enough to pursue "non-hunter-scavenger" tasks.

You probably have low quality genes.

holy god imagine being this dumb and absolute idiot

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>evolved a little differently in regards to IQ

it's not IQ. it's something that's openly accepted by anthropologists and psychologists and philosophers that whatever humanoids were successful and could continue would be ingrained with those "skills" that "worked". for blacks, it wasn't very civilized and it would take THOUSANDS of years still for them to ever be able to function properly in society. for them, for tens of thousands of years, dominance was the most successful way to survive. they had to go "HAM" immediately to solve problems. white people were far more civilized for tens of thousands of years in societies where people worked problems out. it's very simple and psychologists/psychiatrists that focus on neuroscience completely understand it.

let's just say that there can't be a psychiatrist that doesn't think blacks are lower animals.

Bad people have bad children and create bad environments.

>murder rates are consistent across racial lines in poverty
absolutely false

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JUST CAUSE YOU'RE FUCKING POOR DOESN'T MEAN YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND THAT KILLING SOMEONE IS ILLEGAL

>they don't know any better

IGNORANCE IS NEVER A DEFENSE IN THE FACE OF THE LAW.

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The blacks had their own wall street down south, up until whitey rampaged it up.

Not all white people, but you have white southerners to blame for destroying the last chance for blacks to be prosperous group.

Everyone is equally a piece of shit.

/thread

They didnt have to plan for the future in africa with no winter. They just had to scare off lions. They reproced at a larger rate and developed bigger genitals through evolution

Always some dipshit calling /thread. Yeah LBJ fucked it up with welfare, but they were never worth a shit

That's just because of better technology, though. Shaka Zulu would want to conquer and enslave and murder jsut as much as Napoleon or Hitler or Stalin, but he only had spears and animal hide shields lol