Why does the left continue to say white males are causing all the mass shooting and that guns need to be banned...

Half your post is irrelevant tangents having nothing to do with gun control or gun rights.

You're just flatly wrong when you say no one has advocated for gun bans. Ultimately it doesn't even matter because even if you wouldn't ban guns entirely, that doesn't stop someone else from taking that baton and attempting to finish that relay race afterward.

Gun control doesn't work. If it did, then how did the Darwin shooting happen?
Genie's out of this bottle. There are people who understand that fact and then there are people operating on wishful thinking.

Same could be said about your opinion sir. See how easy that was?

It does have everything to do with it, because I told you who controls the US and the minds of Americans, to the point they have created Paranoid Sheep.

Nobody did ever want to ban guns, only small time little groups who were affected by losing a child in schools due to guns or the very small groups elsewhere. The majority never ask for gun bans, they want tougher control which makes more sense allowing reasonable people to still have guns.

But as said Americans are paranoid because they think tougher control = bans which is not true, unless they feel they would lose their license maybe for what they did when younger and have police records.

Again paranoia.

So it doesn't mean gun bans, even though that is exactly what happened in the UK and everywhere else that passes more and more gun laws. Interesting, truly ground breaking shit. Amazing, you really should get an award. We can call it "The Retard of the Year Award".

most people who commit mass shootings have a clean record user. most criminals who kill people through gang and drug violence obtain them illegally.

your laws do nothing but hurt good lawful gun owners and you should be ashamed of that opinion

>your laws do nothing but hurt good lawful gun owners

That's the whole point. The democrats WANT everyone to be defenseless against their pets. Notice how they continue to push for "criminal justice reform", which is turning out more and more to mean less prison time for niggers and spics while they commit all the felonies and gun law violations they please, including less than 5 years for literal murder in some cases.

Also to point out your Darwin analogy, Australia doesnt have daily mass shootings it has only happened lately because of far right movements in Australia are on the rise and made someone go ahead and shoot people.

Also different Australian states have different gun laws, but there was tight controls in the Northern Territories where Darwin is, but for a very long time no mass shootings happened.

It works, it isn't 100% preventable, but it does work.

Look at the US every day you get mass shootings 3+ victims of course. And that is without a tight control.

But in true paranoia style Americans will blame the blacks instead. It is pathetic.

I think people are stupid that watches the news. The news want people to fight each other than people going against the elite

Nah that wasn’t an opinion, that was a question!

Bud, just give it up already. You lost and look like a fucking moron. Why are you still even here?

I already answered why a gun ban on specific firearms was done in the UK. Did you not read it. Because of 1 school shooting. And since then no other School Shootings have happened.

My laws? A tougher control doesn't hurt lawful owners, never will do, again you are of the mindset thinking it is a ban when it isn't. Paranoia as I said.

"oh no... mah guns they will take them away, why why why... oh wait it's just making it harder for numbskulls to get the guns... phewwwww.... no no they will ban guns... sob"

>A tougher control doesn't hurt lawful owners, never will do
Yes it does, every time. Because niggers and spics are literal monkeys and break all the laws they fucking want, and people like you don't say a fucking word about it.

How the fuck did I lose? If anything both of us lost for such faggots as to get into an argument on a site on which no one gives a fuck to anyone’s opinion

No it really doesn't. Just because you can make an inference doesn't mean the inference is valid.

>Nobody did ever want to ban guns, only small time little groups who were affected by losing a child in schools due to guns or the very small groups elsewhere.
>The majority never ask for gun bans
>"Nobody ever wanted to ban guns except people who did."
Bruh, I know your scottish, but learn to english.

>they want tougher control which makes more sense allowing reasonable people to still have guns.
When you keep it nebulous like that? Oh sure, it seems like it makes a lot of sense. It's specious, but when you get down to the actual nuances of the debate? Every. Single. Time. The gun control side is caught out.
Restricting guns keeps guns out of the hands of bad people as much as the war on drugs keeps drugs out of the hands of bad people -- it doesn't.
Ban on AR-15s? Well, fuck man, shootings have been done without those rifles. They've been done with handguns. What stops a would-be shooter from just using handguns then? Doubly so considering handguns are more often used in illegal activity.
You have Australia which is the poster child for "effective gun control" and the just fucking had the Darwin shooting this year! A few months ago! That shotgun used in the shooting there? Illegal.

Yes, you are right. You won man, great job. Totally got it and you are a winner, congrats. Can you fuck off now?

Oh don't worry user, today it's "assault" guns. Next it'll be semi-autos and pump action guns. Down the line until ALL guns are banned. But Tyrone and Juan will still have their guns.

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Wrong, they don't. Every time? When was the last time a tougher control was used in the US in regards to gun control?

Well?

So you are basing your opinion on nothing, but something you read from some pro-gun rights site or blog, and have believed everything they have said.

If tougher control is introduced, lawful people have nothing to fear because it isn't targetting them. It is targetting people like extremists from lal walks of life, gang members, drug dealers, paedophiles, anit-political figures and so on.

Nothing to do with the majority of people who have guns correctly.

Paranoia, you are full of it, you keep on thinking the worse thing for something that isn't that.

Prove me wrong.

You know I'm not even reading your plebbit posts right? Maybe you should head on back over there. Your stupidity is where it belongs.

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Whats the problem I don't speak American English? The watered down proper English?

Also it isn't specious, you only want to believe the worse case scenario which isn't going to happen if there is a gun control law in effect.

Like I said to the other guy, that comes down to paranoia, and it is rife in the US.

So you are ignoring the question and your false comment, you said it happens every time, when did it happen in the US?

Going to go back to the reddit attack because you have no leg to stand on?

>when did it happen in the US?
It happens every year in blue states. Of course being the brain dead dipshit foreigner you are, you probably don't even realize we HAVE states. Or understand the concept of state vs federal laws. You didn't know about this did you? But yeah, blue states have already banned "assault" weapons and use "red flag" laws to strip anyone they want of their guns without any due process. Because they have jew judges in jew courts all over the country to do as the slave masters demand.

You keep using generalities.
State-wise? California was implementing crackdowns after the recent shooting there.
National? Talks of implementing red flag laws.

>If tougher control is introduced, lawful people have nothing to fear because it isn't targetting them
That is ass-backwards. Since law-abiding people are the only ones who would care to follow those laws, they're the only ones effected. A criminal already inclined to commit crime? They don't give a fuck. What's another broken law at that point, really?
Worse, since these laws you're advocating for seems to be targeting ownership instead of criminal action, you don't actually sweep up more criminals in the sense that people who were committing crimes are now caught. You "sweep up more criminals" in the sense that there were once law-abiding citizens who are no longer law-abiding because the guns that they had owned legally is now no longer legally able to own said guns.

Look people...

Your country is controlled by Corporations, right now in the UK they are trying to do the same thing, with Boris Johnson in power they think it will be easy, and it has reignited the Independence vote again for Scotland.

In the US corporations pay less tax than every day working civilians. 1.9 trillion dollars per year from the GDP tax (or Corporation tax) is given back as a rebate, the amount they finally pay is one of the lowest in the world. And you lot let it happen every single election.

$1.9 trn could be used to improve cities and towns, improve employment by reinvesting into new jobs, better education so you are producing professionals who can take the jobs in the US without companies having to hire from overseas, the US health service houses 20% of foreign workers because the US doesn't produce enough to cover it.

Even a part of that 1.9 trn could be used to pay off the National Debt, which would strengthen the US economy make the dollar rise in value and create trade.

Don't you want that people?

Instead you are crying about potential tougher gun laws. Wow just wow. No wonder your country is about fucked.

Pic related.

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See what I mean?
I've been direct.
I've been pointed.

You've been reduced to accusing me of "paranoia" as a last refuge. Frankly, even if I were, how are you exempt from that accusation anyway considering?

Posted wrong pic here it is.

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Not a last refuge it is well known Americans are paranoid. They are scared about anything non-American, or what they see as American which varies.

My English is fine, you are just used to American English that is all. Consider the fact that the English I am using has been around longer than the USA.

Now watch this fucking moron keep saying how it's all "paranoia" despite all of this. Assuming he didn't run away like a gay faggot.

Says the guy who ignores facts by crying "plebbit"

Pro gun ownership isn't a corporate conspiracy.
If corporations are taking over our government then why would we want to give up our guns to said government being taken over by the corporations?

Your argument is half-baked.

user, the whole english thing was a joke.

Oh you're still here. Any reason you're not addressing anything that was just said to debunk what your team is trying to do?

>They are scared about anything non-American
You're right, if only we were more like Africa and South America. MAN, sure must be a lot of paranoia going on around here, what with the liberals and their slave masters actively trying to turn the USA into a fucking third world spic socialist, gun free zone where hate speech and wrong think can get you arrested. No no it's all paranoia according to you. Not like it hasn't happened literally dozens of times in the last 500 years.

Again you think a ban, tougher control is NOT a ban, which you insinuated by saying "why would we give up our guns".

Again, key word of tonight is paranoia.

This you fuckin faggots

>$1.9 trn could be used to improve cities and towns, improve employment by reinvesting into new jobs, better education so you are producing professionals who can take the jobs in the US without companies having to hire from overseas, the US health service houses 20% of foreign workers because the US doesn't produce enough to cover it.
You have no idea how tax incentives work, do you? I mean, you make that INCREDIBLY obvious with this bullshit post. Just like one of your heroes AOC that doesn't know how they work either and thinks Amazon was going to be given a fucking check or piles of cash, or whatever the fuck it is that retarded monkey thought it was, or she was playing stupid and hoping no one would notice.

I don't see what's the issue with 3+ victims a day in a country that large

Wow look at that. He ran away like a fucking gay bitch, just like I knew he would.

Why would AOC be a hero to me, I am not even American. Look at your projecting and being paranoid.

Tax Incentives for what? To stay in the US? Where else would corporations go to have the same low 1.5% tax rate which should be 10.5%?

Answer : No where, unless they want to go to Cuba etc.

You clearly have no idea how your country's taxation works.

So to you a 10.5% GDP tax that ends up being 1.5% after rebates is acceptable? And you think if you forced the 10.5% GDP, which you class as an incentive, that those corporations would go elsewhere?

Are you that delusional?

Think about it if they are getting an incentive, what does that mean? Oh I know the US economy is shit. But it isn't an incentive as you think it is, it is because corporations are in your government, and they are protecting each other.

Since the 80s corporations have been taxed less, forcing the government to borrow, which in turn has increased the national debt sky high.

Again, where would the corporations go if they were forced to pay the 10.5% they should?

I await your answer.

I never said a day, I said 3+ victims per mass shooting. There is multiple of those per day.

gunviolencearchive.org

>it is well known
now you're appealing to ad populum, an even more last resort argument strategy. Stupid motherfucker......

user... okay, let's play this game for a minute:
So let's just say the corporations are taking over. It is their nefarious scheme to get the US populace to shoot themselves to death with their guns, I guess.

Why would these corporations want a deranged populace armed that could challenge their bid for power? Dunno.
Why would these corporations want their consumers to possible off potential other consumers instead of just passively consume without the means to hurt themselves and anyone else? Also dunno.

I guess the thought of people shooting themselves is amusing I guess, and corporations are evil. Kind of makes a sense in the vein of saturday morning cartoons so whatevs.

Firstly, assuming all that is true: how is that scenario *not* worthy of paranoia? I don't get it. If that were all true, well fuck man, I should be paranoid.
I'm not, but hey, I should be.

Secondly, so we got these corporate overlords making us all paranoid. Your prescription to remedy this situation is for us to enact restrictions on our ability to own and operate guns.
So how does that work exactly? If the corporations are already that close to a take over... what am I supposed to do? Use their rigged corporate court system to vote them out of power? They'll just cheat.
At a certain point, you'd need an armed revolution to oust them, but with gun control restrictions (that actually worked)? Well then that means potential firepower for this revolution that would be required would be necessarily limited.

Dunno man. Seems counter-productive, again, assuming everything you said is true.

Nope, it is known because of previous years of experience on how Americans respond, talk and react.

That isn't last resort of anything, that is fact.

Paranoidboi

Well let's see, Amazon provides a service, they provide a lot of US jobs that pay better than the competition, and they are constantly expanding the business. Of course your team NEVER brings that up though. Instead it's all talk of mo money fo dem progams, because we're all suppose to pretend Tyrone is gang banging because he has "no where to hang out on the weekends", which is complete bullshit. And if Amazon were to pack up and move to China, your team would bitch about that too. Probably blame Trump for it.

Because it's easier to get hung up on exceptional events with many dead than it is on routine events with fewer dead.

gang violence =/= going into a walmart with an AR-15 and shooting people at random

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It happens everytime, when they have no right argument they just say "oh stop being so paranoid hehe we don't want your guns!" then they turn around and demand assault weapon bans and bullshit red flag laws where a jew judge in a jew court can take your guns anytime they please, because someone somewhere thinks you may or may not do something at some point in the future, which is totally ridiculous and a blatant violation of the constitution. Literal fascism in fact. Of course the jew media doesn't call out the slave masters on this, or how NONE of these laws do jack fucking shit to stop niggers and spics from getting them illegally.

It's not the left that wants to ban guns, it's liberals.

>It's not the left that wants to ban guns, it's liberals
Same shit

You're right it's worse, because FAR more people are killed every year by gangs

gang violence isn't new and isn't going to cause a public panic like random mass shootings, typically by young white males

So in other words it's only a problem if whites do it. Niggers and spics can do as they please and break any laws they want. Is that what you're saying here?

Why would corporations want guns to be easily acquired even by criminal elements, lets see.

Increase in life insurance consumers
Increase in medical services for injured people
Increase in gun sales
Increase in the false hope that people are safe at home with a gun

Corporations and share holders plague the senate and congress.

Ever wonder why your military budget is sky high? Why are you building so much stealth fighters that will never be used or piloted? Because it is a profit. They did the same thing with Obama, and they axed his choice of Jet for the military budget, all of the planes unused and unsold overseas were scrapped and sold back to companies like McDonnel Douglas for them to reuse again for the next gen fighters.

This has been happening in the US since the 80s since Reagan was in control, shit they even spent $1trn back then on Saddam Hussein's claim for power in Iraq and to fund the Iran-Iraq war.

But as I said the UK is slowly turning the same way, and us Scots are not wanting a piece of that shit. We have seen what it did to you lot for nearly 40 years.

Not the other fag but you realize gangsters killing gangsters isn’t equivalent to fucking psychopaths killing random people (i.e. you and me) going about their day.

if they were shooting up music concerts, walmarts and churches at the same rates whites were this wouldn't be about race, but the shooters causing public panic are mostly white

Except they kill other people who aren't gang members all the fucking time. Why don't your heroes ever bring that up when they talk about their faggy gun law proposals? Like a fucking "mandatory buy back" which doesn't even make fucking sense.

That's not what "the left" is saying. But it's a convenient pair of straw men for you to argue with. On Yea Forums for fuck's sake.

>if they were shooting up music concerts
Gangs shoot up concerts and clubs all the fucking time. But let me guess, you didn't know that because your team never told you right?

mass shootings causing public panic, that is the main difference

fucking retard. You have added nothing to this other than your incomprehensible shitfits, and I guarantee you aren’t going to add anything in the future- whether it be to society or to this thread. Please consider necking yourself, you human garbage

Amazon does indeed because of tax evasion, in the UK for example they were based on the Isle of Wight for many years to avoid taxation, because the Isle of Wight residents and businesses can reclaim VAT.

But when they changed it to only consumers, Amazon left the Isle of Wight to set up in a few UK cities. But have been paying less tax than they should, and that is because of ties to the government.

In the UK we have a House of Lords who are members of Parliament who can overrule or block any new laws or acts. And over the last 2 decades more and more corporate heads have been getting lord status.

Would like to see the figures of victims of gun crimes and which percentage is killed by gangs.

Thanks.

>Moving the goal posts

You literally just said concerts. So if a gang member shoots up a concert it doesn't cause panic? Everyone just stands there like fucking retards unless it's a white person doing the shooting?

>REEEEEEEE RETARD
>REEEEEEEE RACIST ONLY WHITES SHOULD FOLLOW LAWS
>MY PETS DONT NEED TO FOLLOW LAWS
>REEEEEEE

>Amazon does indeed because of tax evasion
Interesting how you seem to know this but the IRS does not. I'm assuming you have evidence of this?

Ma dude because you can also kill someone with a gun aquierd legally.

If I showed you would it change your mind? No of course not, you'll just say all of those people were gang members. Including little girls as young as 5 years old.

And what's your point, "ma dude"?

because the left thrive on identity politics,

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That has been my argument from my first post. One off shootings in clubs happen everyday, it may make the local news the next day but people expect those to happen. Omar Mateen shooting up the orlando night club and killing 50 people is going to cause public panic, or someone shooting at a concert from an above hotel window, killing 59 and injuring 851

My heroes? Yeah sorry, I don’t have heroes that have to tell me to wash my fucking foreskin like you do fuckwit. Why don’t you suck jordan Peterson’s dick more. And regards of how much of an insufferable retard you are I hope you realize gang members don’t need kill 50% innocents and 50% gangsters. It creates unnecessary bodies for which unnecessary measures need to be taken to dispose of such bodies.

>Point out where I gave out my opinion
Not him but but you're asking a question based on you being sick of a very large group's stance on a politically heated topic. You also end it with saying it's ridiculous, which emphasizes your opinion on the subject.
Ur dum
also Mass Shootings != everyday shootings

They aren't the only company that uses the loopholes to pay less corporate tax, I gave an example why above.

10.5% GDP tax rate, but 9% is rebated back. That is a massive tax evasion right there, because of some loophole that allows corporations to claim that 9%. And you can thank the government for that being set up in the 1980s.

They also have several board members and shareholders who "operate" from the Cayman Islands to avoid themselves paying income tax etc also.

They are all at it.

Another example even in the UK, is the Barclay's brothers who are in charge of Barclays bank. They tax avoid even for the bank, just like Chase and BoA.

It was even early this year when Trump gave the banks a $21 Billion relief from their Taxes for other banks who don't tax avoid, and in response they cut staff and loan applications that got refused rose. Because they had money to play with.

What good is a government that continually "saves" the same banks constantly?

Maybe because those same banks are giving out the loans for the US to pay for things and add it to the national debt so it incrues interest which keeps the banks happy?

Crazy world right?

Not the person you were originally responding to, I asked you for the figures because I am interested.

No need to be paranoid.

Now do it by actual figures and not per capita. Totally different scenario right?

the prison system isn't currently set up to help people stop being assholes and migrate back into society, it's set up to profit off of federal dollars. That's what needs reform. You're painfully misinformed.

>Because niggers and spics are literal monkeys and break all the laws they fucking want,
Because white people follow all the laws and are good bois, right, Epstien?

>Every. Single. Time
They make compromises and I thing ever really changes because the argument is fake and every time it comes up in actual politics, gun sales go up.
You're fucking retarded beyond reason.

>red flag laws
Preventing mass shootings is hurting lawful owners now?

Right, so the slaves can do as they please because it's "expected". Great, hold on while I go get my guns and hand them over to you. Give me a fucking break. Is it also "expected" that they drop out of fucking school and collect dem programs and act like dumbass chimps everywhere they go. With people like you saying "oh well, what are you gonna do?" as if they're all fucking babies. You would probably let a nigger rape your mom too while you just fucking stand there and watch.

Yes I am sick of it, you are absolutely right, because it's fucking ridiculous. Everyday we have to hear this fucking bullshit about banning guns and this and there, but we're all suppose to ignore the 500 pound monkey in the corner of the room. Why don't the slave masters call out their fucking pets for breaking all the fucking gun laws we already have? Instead it's all talk of giving up MORE rights because the democrats can't keep their slaves in line.

Again, where is the evidence? You don't have it, do you?

So then you did post your opinion? A 500 pound monkey couldn't operate a gun. Go home user, your drunk on /pol/aide.

And that has WHAT to do with letting people, who commit felony after fucking felony, OUT of prison in less than 2 years or giving out absolute jokes of a fucking sentence when one of them kills or seriously injured someone?

Because they are dumbass idiots who have too narrow of a mind to see anything than white men.

>Doesn't address a single thing I said
>Durrrrr /pol/

You seem like a smart person. Did you figure out what community college you'll be attending next year?

The evidence is the loophole that allows corporations to pay 9% less tax per year. Its documented. Its available to see.

I will make it easy for you GDP is $22 trn-ish, it is taxed at 10.5%. So that should be $2.31 trn going into Corporate tax. But this is not true as right now $240 bn is the corporate tax.

So where did the other 9% go? It went back as a loophole rebate. Which is only available to large corporations and not small businesses and local businesses.

Well?

He can't go to one he didn't make the football team or the basketball team.

So no evidence, got it. You can fuck off now.

yes gun violence has always happened, and since the 70s have actually been steadily declining. People don't want to fear going to walmart or a music concert, they don't want to hear about 50 people being mowed down by an unprovoked mass shooter, especially if it's happening at schools and their children could be victims

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And I understand all of that. But going for a gun grab doesn't solve this.

> white males are causing all the mass shooting and that guns need to be banned

> blacks and hispanics that get guns illegally and committ the vast majority of gun violence in the US

> there is massive amounts of gun violence in Africa and Latin America and the Middle East

Post some proof of this.

If someone said it, then post proof of that.

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You want proof there is massive gun violence in fucking Africa and the Middle East? You're joking right?

if it's so easy, then prove it. show some numbers

the guy gave you evidence it happens every year in our country, you are too ignorant to accept it, because it will hurt your fee fees.
let me change the questions why do large corporations get that 9% rebate and how?

The only grabbing would be criminal elements, so why would you be worried?

I would ignore him just like he ignores when people give him facts, and he whines "but no proof then" snarf snarf.

He is pathetic.

>Discussing something important on Yea Forums

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This guy gets it, but don't forget about the media constantly trying to drive a wedge between people creating an us vs. them mentality. That way we stay busy fighting among ourselves instead of fighting who is truly making our country a shithole for the average man. Trying my hardest to leave this country before it implodes, hopefully I can get out soon.

Per capita is the only way to compare populations of disparate sizes dipshit

Scotfag here, got anywhere in mind?

Maybe Singapore, they are quick to accept foreigners there and job prospects are good for them, plus as a bonus they speak mostly English.

I would normally say Scotland, but with the politics as they are, I wouldn't chance it right now.

Okay lets start with this list

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ongoing_armed_conflicts

>In b4 b--b-b-but it's America's fault!!!

Except I DID provide actual evidence, unlike you

agreed, but there's a reason people say this is a white male issue, because it is. I'm white, so obviously I don't hate white people, it's just a fact that young white men are typically doing this and we need to consider why it's white guys, then I think we can actually solve this

thanks

Per capita was first used by the government to show how things were "improving" during the 1930s depression. Because the per capita figures were basically not reality and a probability that per 10k people there was supposedly x amount coming out of the recession, which is false and useless.

Per capita is a method for people to use to make something look better or worse than it is.

Crime in the US is measured by actual criminal events, by using per capita you are assuming that every single US Citizen is a criminal including Whites, Blacks, Latinos, Asians etc.

Crime isn't measured by probabilities, you can't say one year "oh this year I think we will have 50% less crime" it's impossible.

I guarantee you, if black crime dropped significantly next year, and the per capita was used and shows whites worse than actual figures - they would deny the per capita. They will only use it when it suits their agenda. Simple as that.

But here is a little homework for you, get the crime figures globally, and do a per capita then. I guarantee you, you won't because it will show Whites as the worse.

But again, most of the gun violence in this country is done by non-whites. But we're all suppose to just ignore this for whatever reason. Or it's somehow racist to point out this inconvenient fact. Everyday in the local news there are stories about a gang member or a felon who wasn't suppose to have a gun(because keep in mind it's ALREADY illegal for those people to have guns), getting caught doing something illegal with that gun like selling drugs or robbing a liquor store. But apparently it's somehow OKAY because it's expected of them, like that's suppose to be some kind of fucking excuse for lawlessness. Then some jew judge gives these people a bullshit sentence and they're out there again and do the same shit in 2-3 years.

I actually did, it happens every year in the US. I asked a question which you failed to answer. Ergo you are hiding and getting salty about it.

It isn't though, it is more white than black than latino. Show us the actual figures for gun crimes by race please.

>I mean I'm sorry but this is getting ridiculous now.
Yeah, the amount of bullshit out of you frogheads is indeed getting ridiculous.

cnn.com/2018/04/23/health/gun-deaths-in-men-by-state-study/index.html

There you go, I even used your favorite network to prove my point. I know you're gonna run away like a little bitch now, but hopefully someone else finds it useful.

>scotfag
Stopped reading there, you dont have a clue.

Don't waste your time reading any of the plebbittor's posts in this thread

>But apparently it's somehow OKAY because it's expected of them

gun violence as a whole is being addressed everyday, and has steadily decreased in past few decades. mass shooting is a relatively new phenomenon and only recently has become commonplace, that's why it is a hot topic and needs to be addressed differently to prevent them altogether or at least back to same frequency it occurred, in say, the 90s

Scared to look up what I said? Or in your head you think only US people are the intelligent ones? Like I said that all comes down to paranoia, and being scared to think your country isn't #1 as you hope it is.

Prove me wrong on what I said, if you can.

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>Why does the left continue to say white males are causing all the mass shooting
Because they're the ones doing all the mass shootings? I know blaming the people actually responsible for problems isn't the right's strong suit, but come the fuck on mate.

>The UK removed the guns when Thomas Hamilton walked into a Dunblane school and killed kids and teachers with guns, then himself.
And now their citizens are being prosecuted for tweets, Facebook statuses, and dog tricks.

>gun violence as a whole is being addressed everyday
Oh is it now? Funny, because last time I checked the only thing I'm hearing from the democrats is how laws are racist and niggers and spics need to be given lighter sentence, even after they commit violent felonies and kill or injure innocent people. Doesn't seem like your heroes give 2 SHITS about gun violence, unless they can use it as an excuse to take guns away from non-criminals. Which is exactly what they're doing right now.

Well, there are specific issues to specific communities. Mass shootings are a reaction to specific emotional depravations among the white middle class. Violent street crime is (predominantly) a result of specific economic depravations and gang culture among black and hispanic communities. Mass kid stabbings are a result of specific economic and emotional depravations in mainland China.

Btw. China and Taiwan are exellent example of why racism is for smoothbrained faggots. China is basically hell on Earth, while Taiwan has developed into a civilized society on par with Western standards.

>mate

Oh great, ANOTHER dumbass foreigner shows up and will try to lecture everybody on how great it is his shithole country banned all the guns

Yes yes, we're the paranoid deluded sheep and you're the enlightened free thinker. You're so special, champ.

>China is basically hell on Earth, while Taiwan has developed into a civilized society on par with Western standards.
Right, that's because of racism. I'm sure it has NOTHING to do with one being a communist dictatorship and the other being the exact opposite of that. NOTHING AT ALL HEHEHEHEHE.

Actually he wasn't arrested because of his dog, which many mistakenly think, he was arrested for saying "gas the jews" on youtube which is public, and he attracts a lot of younger viewers.

That is what he was arrested for.

So you can't prove me wrong then, or are able to actually figure out how to do so?

But you actually think I am wrong, so you must have some evidence right?

Yeah, that's a lie. If people are demanding "lighter sentences" (for what crimes anyway?), what they're actually saying is
a) that blacks and hispanics should receive the same sentences for the same crimes as whites
or
b) that the US' focus on punishment and keeping private prison corporations happy is inhumane, disproportionate to the crimes and utterly failing on the prevention and rehabilitation aspects, which have demonstrably worked out better elsewhere.

But I don't suppose Frogheads and Russian trolls are capable of good faith arguments. Mass shooters are usually first time offenders anyway, so what you're saying makes even less sense.

Are even capable of basic reasoning? Apparently not, since you can't even fathom the argument I'm making. Hint: Its not that racism caused China to be a shithole.

"Gas the jews" was the trigger for doing the trick was it not? Nice piece of info to leave out.

In other words he was arrested for free speech. Oh boy, PLEASE by all means, take away the 2nd amendment! Man oh man I can't WAIT, then the democrats will take the 1st one away too. Oops, there goes that (((paranoia))) again.

What is a lie exactly? That niggers and spics are demanding lighter sentences for committing felonies, or that the kike judges are doing it? Because both of those are true.

There's simply no debate. You're falling into the same trap you loathe Americans for falling into. Now go wax intellectual about more things you fundamentally do not understand, but live assured of your own superiority, you walking proof of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

Was the argument that you're a fucking retard? Don't worry, you made that pretty obvious

Like I said he said it, which is promoting hate which is punishable by court in the UK. He was arrested for that not the dog. People thought it was the dog and talked about it and blamed that for his arrest.

There is a difference between a terrorist attack and homicide. Still, IdPol is garbage and gleefully pointing out "white men" issues is retarded and can do nothing but backfire.

If that is all you have to offer, you surely are destitute.

Well you are all paranoid since the 1st amendment gives people the right to democratically vote for who they want, but you lot come along and attack each other essentially going against it, because of paranoid notions that the other voters must be x,y and z.

Also he wasn't arrested for freedom of speech, which is a fallacy there isn't a 100% freedom of speech in any country. He was arrested for hate speech, for promoting hate against another group of people.

>You're falling into the same trap you loathe Americans for falling into.

Demanding evidence?

So that is a no then, you are just all talk and can't prove me wrong. Ok glad we got that all cleared up.

Remind me again, did these "hate speech" laws come BEFORE or AFTER all the guns were taken away? And what's stopping anyone from expanding what defines "hate speech"? And we should give up all of the guns here, WHY again? So we can be like you faggots over there?

You seem nice man, but you're missing the point. Who was harmed, I mean actually harmed, by the utterance of "gas the jews" in the context of a dog having been trained to respond to that phrase? Surely you understand the difference in tone between a video promoting hate to its audience and a goofy video of a man with his dog telling a joke, even if it is a cruel joke.

The hate speech law has existed since the 30s in the UK. There is subtle differences between Scottish and English versions but the same.

Paranoid my ass, again you pull this line when you have nothing of actual substance to say. But again, did free speech get taken away before or after the guns were banned? It's very, very simple. I know you're gonna try to dance around this though.

>HUR DUR WHY ARE YOU PARANOID
>DUR NO ONE WILL TAKE AWAY THE 1ST AMENDMENT
>EVEN THOUGH THEY DID IT HERE
>AFTER THEY TOOK AWAY GUNS
>DURRRRRRRRR PARANOID

It's almost like you fags have your heads so far up your own ass, you can't even see the blatant contradictions

I answered you already. Your attempt to try and make it look like we are the same is going to fail big time.

>Remind me again, did these "hate speech" laws come BEFORE or AFTER all the guns were taken away?

Okay, so you can't even fathom the historic reality of democratic reform and revolution outside the United States.

>And what's stopping anyone from expanding what defines "hate speech"?

Okay, you can't even fathom the juridical nuances of free speech and constitutional law. I guess you think that freedom of the press, freedom of science and the right to shitpost on the internet are the same thing.

Why does X party, do subversive things?

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Wow that is a lot of nonsense that I didn't really say or imply, that is paranoia in full effect also.

Do you like to assume things on a daily basis to suit your own ideology?

Please respond in an angry and childish way please.

Funny thing is, democracy and democratic movements in Europe gained traction during times of heavy censorship and state control of the press. But no, banning people from advocating genocide on the internet surely is the downfall of democracy.

>do you like to assume things on a daily basis to suit your own ideology?
Pot, meet kettle.

It's a very simple question, "mate". Did these laws exist when you had guns, yes or no? Why are you refusing to answer it?

More assumptions, interesting. You still said things I didn't say. Because you are scared and paranoid. How is that fantasy world in your head going? Ever wanted to experience the real world outside your house?

>Please respond in an angry and childish way please.
Shouldn't be a problem for the froghead. After all, its awfully exciting to scare yourself into this sort of paranoia, especially when your life is so empty that this is the only source of emotional self-actualization.

You dumb fuck, yes they did. The history of anti hate speech in the UK predates WW2, UK didnt move to ban firearms until after the Dunblane massacre which was in the mid 90s. He already answered that, did you just not read it?

You are speaking to someone else and I already said to you when it started, in an earlier post.

Why not scroll up and see it, unless you are doing your close your eyes it didn't happen routine.

But again I will say it because obviously working the net must be a bit hard for you.

The hate speech law was passed in the 1930s in the UK. The Dunblane shooting which was the start of removing specific guns (not hunting rifles and shotguns which need a licence) was in 1996.

So before.

But then again it wouldn't have mattered if I said before or after as you would come up with some shit excuse as to why each one is bad. Because of your paranoid nature.

Private citizens in Europe didn't have guns, idiot. Still, most countries went from Absolutism to democracy or constitutional monarchy within 100 years. Your whole premise is retarded.

>UK didnt move to ban firearms until after the Dunblane massacre which was in the mid 90s.
Oi, didn't know that. Thanks for clearing that up for me.

Well I did mention it already in this thread countless posts up. When someone tried to think liberals got guns banned in the UK, until I said why.

>constitutional monarchy

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Don't pretend to be dumber than you are.

Can you explain why the fuck that even is? Is that suppose to be code for "you will vote for who we TELL you to vote for, and if anyone else we don't approve of runs they will be imprisoned". That's what that means in Europe isn't it?

Yeah, totally not paranoid.

Unlike the US areas of voting are not subject to change to bend the voting, we do vote democratically in all European countries, except Russia there is some shady shit going on there, and maybe Ukraine now.

cause the get the nigger and spic vote

>we do vote democratically
Sure you do, so long as you vote the way you're suppose to work all the leaders in Europe are happy and smiling. Soon as you do otherwise they stop smiling. Look at Brexit for example.