Soon the annual of a 9/11 is coming, so I was just wondering...

Soon the annual of a 9/11 is coming, so I was just wondering, have we reached a consensus on whether the jet fuel can melt the steel beams or not?

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Hot enough to make the metal bendy

It can but only in a controlled environment or with a powerful excellerant.

I was litterally just thinking of that

Some of the faggots on here are born after 9/11 and will no nothing about the beems and jet fuel because they still dont think for themselves.
>Dead meme
Dead as the towel heads who hijacked the planes

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I still think 9/11 was orchestrated but jet fuel doesn't need to melt it just need to get it hot enough to flex .
If you're talking about the main columns in basement I believe they were cut with thermite. 9/11 was orchestrated to propel the munitions industry and military industrial complex.

>Dead as the towel heads who hijacked the planes

Implying the people who hijacked the plane were in the plane at the moment of an impact.

>Hot enough to make the metal bendy

But the steel beams were melted. They were melted into a liquid state.

Yea Forums can't reach a consensus on fucking anything

We all pretty much agree that you’re a fucking faggot.

I'm glad I wasn't born this retarded

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Great post faggotron, you sure convinced me with those hot opinions.

I also agree with this statement.

Fuck when is it? I keep forgetting when it happened

first the jet fuel burns.

this makes the metal bendy.

bendy enough for the tower to collapse.

the force of the tower collapsing (friction) then heats certain parts of the metal beyond the melting point.

listen to this to have full understanding:
youtube.com/watch?v=czTksCF6X8Y

listen to this to have full understanding:

youtube.com/watch?v=hGlyFc79BUE

Yea jet fuel....

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Dams. So clean cut like It was sliced with a surgeon knife.

What to believe???

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>building hit with a fucking fully loaded 747 weakens and collapses
suspicion
>incredible stress on a single location shears all similar beams in the area similarly
suspicion
>some youtube faggot : "only imperial stormtroopers are so precise"
of course! it all makes sense now!

On 9/11, not only did the Jews take a day off, but so did physics. Because on 9/11, jet fuel burned hot enough to melt steel beams that held up a massive tall building, however it was not hot enough to burn and destroy a paper passport, that was perfectly preserved for the FBI to find, wow so lucky. And also WT7 decided to collapse without ever getting touched. But let's keep believing the trustworthy American government.

amazing how many people these days don't know what metal cut with a cutting torch looks like. I guess there are less people entering the metal working trades.

Yes they were. With plasma torches. During rescue and cleaning operations.

agreed,

also a column of jet fuel weighing 9 tons and travelling at 200 meters per second.

pv=nrt

There so much misinformation out there . I really don't put it past the American government to orchestrate 9/11 to invade Iraq for their oil. Dumb ass Americans will believe anything they see on the news. What came after 9/11 the Patriot act where he have our rights away. But on the other hand people can be paranoid and afraid so they create conspiracy theories.who fucking knows it sucks. I highly doubt some sand niggers in a cave brought down America's tallest buildings from a cave and they recovered their passports but couldn't recover anyone's body in flight 93 let alone any of the plane.

the buildings around the collapse would've had a lot of stress put on them. it's not like new york has earthquake codes like san fran or something. they're on a big lump of granite. god could throw half the moon into yosimite and they wouldn't get a shudder.

What the fuck is 9/11? Why is there a big smoking hole in that building?

Yes goy it does.

t. Larry “Lucky Larry” Silverstein

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They were cut during the cleanup you fucking idiot

It was all a setup to enact the Patriot act and invade Iraq and stimulate the arms industry. Is it that farfetched?? Let's all believe the Republican overlords.

if you want to assume our government put our close terroristic ally up to committing a false flag so we could attack unrelated countries, sure, why not.
these asstards have to believe the stupidest possible interpretation of events and make whatever reasonable core they started from seem ridiculous
maybe that'st the point. maybe it's a false belief paired purposely with a truth to throw off everyone.
have an army of retards believe something, and the credulous will denounce it out of hand.
or, and I'm just tossing this out there, you guys are fucking stupid for believing any of this and wasting your lives.
have fun with that.

Not him, but fuckwits like you will never be convinced because you’re either retarded conspiracy theorists with confirmation bias or just fucking stupid. So either way insults about your lack of intelligence plus pointing at you and and laughing are perfectly acceptable responses from normal people with functioning synapses

Civil engineer here. Steel has worse resistance to fire than wood. While wood burns it is still able to bear load for reasonable amount of time. Meanwhile, steel doesn't burn, but when exposed to heat of fire it dramatically loses its strenght almost immediately.
>tl;dr jet fuel can melt steelbeams

lol. douchebag. ;^)

it was policy to let the terrorists fly the planes off so they could get paid and everyone comes home safe. the pilots would have followed orders. one plane they did fight, and it cratered.
it doesn't take a genius or fit person to be a terrorist, look at all the fat retarded faggots shooting up festivals and schools and shit.
it just takes a self centered asshole that feels justified in taking out their frustrations on randoms.

That's why the use jet fuel to do demolition.
Because it melts and burns the floors one at a time from the top down in a controlled collapse.
And it also burns down buildings across the street after the news reports them having have already burned down

Uncivil engineer here. Your mother is a whore as well.

I concur.

Normie gtfo REEEEEEE

Nice try fbi

So the building would free all into itself like that ?? What about building 7 ? No one can ever explain that. Steel building have burned for more than 24 hours and have not collapsed like that pulverized into dust .especially building number 7 which wasn't even hit by a plane . Please explain im interested in your response .how does a building that wasn't hit by a plane e explode into dust. Keep believing what your told.Dont put it past the government .

Fuck you american cunt

Really Ivan? Is business so slow over in St Petersburg you have to try to spread this canard again? or are you on your lunchbreak from the latest IRA activity and feel like trolling some stupid Americans?

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All these phenomena have been explained, and all the conspiracy theories debunked. There is nothing left that is not understood about 911

Thermite was used in the coladas of the towers.when steel is burned with thermite it creates iron oxide which was found all over the site . They removed the evidence as quick as possible and sent on boats to china. Keep believing in 'Murica. You're all fucking retards.

Your government cannot be trusted.

Iron oxide is rust. It occurs whenever steel or iron oxidises

Bullshit . Youre just naive enough to believe their falsified evidence and explanations. You just say they've been debunowd but give no examples.youre a faggot lol .

Sshh

this one didn't. I imagine the big fucking hole in the side of each tower didn't help much, and once that point gave way from the intense heat, allowing the top of the building to fall down, the momentum carried it through.
it wasn't going to fall side ways, and the materials were torn asunder with the massive amount of inertia coming down on them.
there's literally video of the fall, and testimony of assholes that spent their lives around this shit on why it fell
there's not missing info, there's you listening to people that claim there is, because saying stupid shit confidently gets them youtube views, and you credulous fucks don't use ad block.

There's no point debating with these idiots. They can't be reasoned with. Facts mean nothing in trumpland.

Yes it is but not in those levels . You're saying it rusted the day it fell ?

It is common knowledge
I can't explain that as I know nothing about it. Only thing I'm saying is that skyscraper falling from fire of that scale sounds more than plausible to me, considering outer skin was also severly damaged and fire suppresion didn't work.

Even assuming any of this is credible, did the previous insurance lack terrorist verbiage? I doubt it after the bombings. Would you feel better if he'd gotten barrel rolled with the rest of them? Was he even the benefactor of the insurance, or was it some holding company the guys works under/over/for/whatever?

what's your evidence? the lack of evidence for your side, proving people are hiding your evidence? lol.

>oil

wikipooodia:
the U.S. imports 11% of it's total petroleum use. the largest contributors of that imported 11% breaks down to: Canada = 40%, Saudi Arabia = 11%, Venezuela = 9%, Mexico = 8%, and Colombia = 4%.

You don't need to melt a metallic structure to have it collapse.

That's why wooden structures are considered more fire-resistant than steel ones. Wood has known and predictable properties about burning and fires.

Also, Jews & neocons did 9/11. It was needed for that "War on Terror™" thing, and other good stuff (maintaining the Twin Towers became just costlier than destroying them).

I'm not buying it . I'm not buying sand niggers bypassed norad on the day they were doing drills. It's all bullshit and it's not worth debating because who the fuck would ever know the truth. Not dumb faggots who believe everything Fox news tells them .

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OK. You’re making claims. You provide evidence, because that’s the way it works.

To keep you occupied
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories

rationalwiki.org/wiki/9/11

express.co.uk/news/science/1016614/9-11-conspiracy-theory-inside-job-september-11

since911.com/sites/default/files/related_files/Tackling Conspiracy Theories.pdf

So lets see you debunk the debunkers

>bypassed norad
nobody expected them to purposely crash the planes
they'd have been watching to see where they went, but not expecting that.

Explain this please. I think it's good people question what they are told.

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In support of your point, initially it was thought to be a conventional hijack, where the planes would be landed and demands made, as per all previous aircraft hijackings

Yea well when London got bombed they were also doing terrorist drills that day. How coincidental.

Explain what?

Citation?

if you use water to put out a fire hot steel can rapidly rust from the water caused oxidation.

kek, captcha thinks a mail box is a parking meter.

The f16s in the air were completely across the country doing a drill for a terrorist attack .. it's all bullshit . They got people to buy it to give us a reason to invade Iraq . Sand niggers on a satellite phone couldn't pull this off .lol

Baseless assertion.

Citation? Baseless assertion otherwise

You can trust me, my source is B.

Signed faggot, king of the nerds

... do you think the guy on the satphone was giving a play by play?
it's literally "hey assholes, do the thing on the 11th.
then the assholes do the thing on the 11th.
this isn't some grand scheme.
they wrecked some fucking planes, they didn't coordinate on a distributed proof of plane building functor transformations in imaginary number geometries.

It wasn't only jet fuel that was burning. There was plenty of flammable material contained within the tallest fucking office buildings in the world.

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POWER: At half past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise for a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing up right now.

HOST: To get this quite straight, you were running an exercise to see how you would cope with this and it happened while you were running the exercise?

POWER: Precisely, and it was about half past nine this morning, we planned this for a company and for obvious reasons I don’t want to reveal their name but they’re listening and they’ll know it. And we had a room full of crisis managers for the first time they’d met and so within five minutes we made a pretty rapid decision that this is the real one and so we went through the correct drills of activating crisis management procedures to jump from slow time to quick time thinking and so on.

(BBC Radio Interview, 7 July 2005)

They never melted

Lots of misinformation. Out there and interpretations

does pretending I'm jewish make you feel better about being wrong?

Thank you for your message. Given the volume of emails about events on 7 July and a commonly expressed misguided belief that our exercise revealed prescient behaviour, or was somehow a conspiracy (noting that several websites interpreted our work that day in an inaccurate / naive / ignorant / hostile manner) it has been decided to issue a single email response as follows:

I mean did you forget about the countless plane hijackings in the 60s and 70s? Now instead of flying the plane to Africa like always, you just fly the planes into buildings instead

Of couse, becasue one of the attackers id's flew out of his pocket when the plane crashed on inpact went through the flames safely floated to the ground to where it could be picked up. How was his id there in the first place?

It is confirmed that a short number of ‘walk through’ scenarios planed [sic] well in advance had commenced that morning for a private company in London (as part of a wider project that remains confidential) and that two scenarios related directly to terrorist bombs at the same time as the ones that actually detonated with such tragic results. One scenario in particular, was very similar to real time events.

Provide a link

9th of November man, clues in the name

here's y'all's test.

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No goy I never said that.
wTC7 fell because the garages were connected

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goy? where have I heard this word before? who are you?

Alex Jones here .
Believe what you want fellow Yea Forumstards. That's your rights as Americans. If you want to be a fucking retard and believe mudslimes did this go ahead .

Because the space Jews obviously did it

This is a Jewish lie.

Melting stoves are a huge problem yet to be solved

this guy doesn't metals.

This, and traps are gay

Typically, mild steel has a melting point of 1350C-1530C (2462F-2786F) depending on the grade of the steel as dictated by the amount of carbon it contains.

Typically, mild steel begins to soften around 425°C (797F) and loses about half of its strength at 650°C (1202F).

"Jet fuel" (kerosene/naphtha) burns in the neighborhood of 1500F depending on the grade.

>conspiracy

surprised someone hasen't tried to tie all this together with the flat earth & fake moon landing shit.

Too many retards who shoot down theorists have done no research themselves.
Look into building seven, by far the most suspicious aspect of the whole ordeal for me
I have a few friends who gave me mad shit for thinking something was suspicious, and then they watched on Youtube "anatomy of a great deception" and their whole opinions changed
Look into it before shooting it down, and ignore the dumb ass host of the video who makes it way too much about himself
I reckon the greatest trick of the whole situation is convincing the general population that those who questioned it were nutters

Three buildings, two hits...fat chance, before the jet fuel can melt steel beams they had to fly through three foot steel girders. Then there was the whole collapsing in nine seconds which actually violates the laws of physics, specifically the law of falling bodies.

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>the metal bendy
Is that architectural nomenclature? Bendy?

"The annual of 9/11" Yeah your not a Russian Troll, Not at all.

fucking nerd

>9/11 was orchestrated to propel the munitions industry and military industrial complex.
It was a way to remake America into a surveillance state which is illegal as fuck under the constitution, but they did it and it's fucked. The PATRIOT ACT gutted the bill of rights, but that was the point, that and perhaps the greatest armed robbery in the history of the world...

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aye!

Satanic Bukkake...

{citation needed}

Literally look up the photo and you'll see those images came from after 9/11, not the fucking day of. It's on of the most popular groundzero cleanup effort photos. Fuck , you're retarded

The jets weren't being powered by jet fuel, those planes were modified F-5Z's from Area 51's deep black program. The government aren't in control of the development and therefore they can't deny it accurately. The portal to the Z-ring powered future has been opened and it's only a matter of time until reverse infinite gravity becomes public knowledge.

I saw a documentary on this.

Jet fuel wasn't the only thing burning. 1500f can make steel bend by hand. But I digress. Those pocket lighters can burn at 2400f using butane. But I digress.

If the jet fuel is misted through a gasifier as it normally is, it will burn at well over 4300f. Maybe the misting nozzles kept spraying the fuel into the air as it burned.

Steel melts at 2500f, 4300f is not an issue at the altitude those engines are cooled at because it's wicked away almost immediately.

But hey what the fuck do I know I'm only an OSHA certified safety inspection officer.

F-5Z's aren't from 51.

Even the fuel of a commercial air liner when misted with oxygen, gets the fuel burning at 4300f.

Yeah they're from the new area 52 ;)

>Steel's expansion temperatures are much lower than 1500f

what happens when steel expands and has no relief to expand into?

Get it over with. You got screwed by men in caves.

They loaded the plane with another fuel, it's designed to melt steel beams.

On its own but it's misted into a rich o2 which will make it burn at 4300f that will melt some steel pretty quickly.

It can’t. The planes were just holograms.

Did you miss the gasifier part or just ignore actual facts? Were you dropped on your head as an infant?

I don't care, like I said there are tow equations I want solved and until they are I am a skeptic

>Starting from rest, the distance traversed by a freely falling body is proportional to the square of the time of fall. If a falling body traverses distance h in time t, it can be mathematically written as, h ∞ t2


ESPECIALLY because those buildings fell through the path of MOST resistance, and it's not possible to do that in nine seconds unless energy was added to the event which we have been assured didn't happen. Resulting in a violation of the laws of physics. Go ahead solve the equation.

Explanation: Under gravitational attraction if a body, initially at rest, is allowed to fall freely then the body will traverse distance h in 1 sec., distance 22 x h in 2 sec., 32 x h in 3 sec. and so on. So if the body traverses distances h1, h2 and h respectively, in t1, t2, t3 secs., then,

h1/t12 = h2/t22 = h3/t32

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Yeah but operating temperatures of commercial jet engines in the sky are 3632f and are cooled by wick cooling. Well over making steel a liquid dumbass. Mist jet fuel into enriched oxygen and without cooling it's well within the realm that you'd see temps hitting 6000f+

>They loaded the plane with another fuel

'They' did. They learned from the holocaust, which didn't happen, but it did. But it was holograms. Then the Jew's after much hand rubbing decided to develop turbo high temp Jew fuel because they knew the need to burn derpy brown people faster. So they filled up some planes and then crashed them into the moon landing sound stage, then fired off missiles into the towers only to have the towers explode under a controlled demolition because they also forgot that Jew's from the future with the help of the lizard men would have brought the towers down instead. Only it was all holograms and really lets face it, the fucking Jews did it all.

Do you read or are you plain retarded?

>holograms

please state the nature of the 9/11 emergency.

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>Mist jet fuel into enriched oxygen and without cooling it's well within the realm that you'd see temps hitting 6000f+

'Mist'... You are all talking like someone was up there with a spray bottle misting fuel out. user, the steel heated up, split and the building started to fall to pieces. Yes I understand fuel would have melted the beams, but given the time scale and what we know happened, the steel split and fractured.

No. Oxygen is first enriched into the engine then jet fuel is misted then ignited and burns at 2000c you're literally retarded.

No one here knows how jet engines work. What a surprise.

This. But I also think the jews are hologramming their noses to be bigger than they actually are, just to make us feel like we have one over on them being ugly big nosed sparrows.

youtube.com/watch?v=5d5iIoCiI8g

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Do you not know how jet engines work? The mister is all done with pressure. All that's needed is the oxygen to be released, and the mister to have stayed in tact, and you'll reach the temperatures to melt steel.

- t. jet engine speciliaist

Oh yeah I mean all the other shit added on top of it. Steel is easy to melt. It's also in an enclosed space with 2000c of burning jet fuel and the building will come down.

>Do you not know how jet engines work?

Yes. user do you know what the function of the compressor stage is on a modern engine? What would happen when this stage goes into a building at speed? What happens to fuel supply when the engine stops functioning?

Where is the bottled oxygen supply on a plane and why would a engine need compressed oxygen?

My ex-gf said it can and 9/11 was an inside job. I had to let her go.

explainthatstuff.com/jetengine.html

>But I also think the jews are hologramming their noses to be bigger than they actually are

PROJECT BLUE BEAM MAN OPEN YOUR EYESSSSSS!!!!>">">"K}+U_EHO+F#

But no really they are making their noses look SMALLER through holograms because we all live on he surface of the Jew nose. The moon is erm another nose we are looking at. OPEN yOuR eYeS

The oxygen is stored as a liquid. It's enriched in the engine as the fuel is misted in. All that's needed is pressure to stay in tact for just a few seconds for the flame to melt the steel. Gotta remember, all this shit is made out of titanium. There's no compressor, just pressurized lines.

>jet fuel
The jet fuel can't be both the accelerant to destroy tons and tons of steel AND provide the huge fireballs when the planes hit the buildings PLUS we were told the damage to the lobby was done by a fireball powered by jet fuel that came shooting down the elevator shaft. That's a lot of motherfucking jet fuel.

>So now it's cryo stored liquid oxygen

So what you are saying is the space shuttle crashed into the towers?

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A second fan called a compressor squeezes the air (increases its pressure) by about eight times, and this dramatically increases its temperature.

There is a misconception in your question.

You're assuming that these two buildings actually existed.

>modern airliner jet engine
>The oxygen is stored as a liquid
>There's no compressor fan blade

this guy doesn't jet engine.

I find it amusing NIST quite openly said they can't explain the collapse, but you think you can sum it all up in a sentence or two...

Open your eyes, but don't open your nose otherwise they will dock inside of it. They live in each others noses at a micro-bacterial level. I have been there, I nose what I am talking about.

>jet fuel can melt the steel beams

It never had to melt them. It only had to soften them.

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>That's a lot of motherfucking jet fuel.

Fun fact about 747's. They can store up to 200k litres of fuel on board.

Mossad you bitchass nigga

That theory was debunked by a high school physics teacher because the pancake theory requires 110 seconds for the buildings to collapse but they collapsed in nine seconds.

Why not? They were full. They fully planned on a 23h flight. They were 4 hours into said flight. 1 wing explodes while the other just sits there melting steel in all the chaos.

I mean I know you're prone to loving a good lie likev the Earth being flat and I can kind of understand how people come to that conclusion but jet engines operate at 2000c, 3632f well over the temperature that liquifies steel.

I'll just leave this here.

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Make a tower out of paper straws. Now get some of them wet. Watch them collapse. Did you melt the paper? No, you just weakened them.

>but you think you can sum it all up in a sentence or two

And paranoid idiots on Yea Forums can? user we've upped the stakes here, the planes were flying around powered by liquid oxygen rocket engines. Apparently.

user we know what happened. It's very easily explained.

Not if you start counting 101 seconds earlier, that would correctly equal 110 seconds.

Sorry I thought you meant fuel compressors like in a rocket. I'm tired.

Are you drunk?

Even then, jet fuel is only the first part of how the engine works. They use oxygen to enrich it in the engine then use compression to make it run at 2000c which is well over the 900c jet fuel burns at. A second fan called a compressor squeezes the air (increases its pressure) by about eight times, and this dramatically increases its temperature.

>747's

767's hit the towers so probably even more fuel.

Nope

explainthatstuff.com/jetengine.html

The towers were taken down with controlled demolition.

23 hour flight hit 4 hours into the trip. They had a lot of fuel.

Let's say that's true. How did they melt the steel? Magic fairy dust?

I dunno, have we come to a consensus on how shape-charges and controlled detonation work yet?

Either way, the second those planes hit and entered the buildings that fuel went everywhere. The engines went into bits and were not around compressing or blowing around 'enriched oxygen' or misting fuel everywhere. Engines don't work like that. I swear to god, it's like conspiracies are a sport for simple people who don't go outside.

With microwaves.

Engineer here. Once during my uni days my fire safety professor, who was directly involved on all of the WTC investigations, told us that buildings collapsed due to poor structural design. Beams that made up the floor expanded cuz of the heat pushing out the support beam of the walls. Due to the hyper extended wall beams, the structure buckled causing the entire floor to collapsed. Therefore, the real reason for the fall of both towers was the thermal expansion of the beams which is reasonable if you look at how the towes were designed. My professor name is David Lange from UQ you can search for his research on WTC towers 1 and 2. Now, everything make sense cuz 7 WTC also collapsed and it wasn't hit by an airplane. We have to remember that these buildings were designed and built during times when people didn't take special care for fires. We can argue about the retarded response of the authorities who knew hours before the impacts that the planes were hijacked and had its course to NYC. The saw an opportunity to attack Iraq and Afghanistan and they took it. For them it was all about geopolitics and control.

I love how you fucking morons think steel is impervious to fire. As if it's fucking magic completely impervious to anything... Ice can break brass but get it warm enough and it turns to water.

Nope. Dirty Jew lies. NIST cannot explain anything, steel doesn't expand under 200c and we can't explain 9/11 without the addition of fantasy or liquid oxygen and space shuttles.

Stop being reasonable.

>With microwaves.
phsst, kids these days using microwaves when they could be using a dragon.

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Near the park where I live there's a monument to 9/11. The steel there is only a few inches wide. Nowhere near enough the size needed for structural integrity. They used thinner steel to keep the buildings lighter up top. On a windy day people looking up would see them and crack a joke about how they would fall over given one good gust of wind.

Ovnis too pal

Buildings do have structural failures and fall, but do you even realize the astronomical odds for a skyscraper to structurally fail and fall straight down in that manner? Metal becomes bendy and then unpredictable. That's why demolition experts charge so much money to drop buildings because it takes precision and still they sometimes go wrong. But everyone thinks 5 towel heads with 2 planes bring 3 buildings straight down with jet fuel. Sure ok. Thats the reason for Bush's expression at that public event cause they pulled the trigger earlier than they were suppose to, and the look is one of frustration.

I was there here's my cell phone footage

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Someone post me a picture of the engine locations on the planes that crashed. I have a feeling the location of the engines wont match up with the blueprints of the main support beams, thus nullifying the chance the misters were close enough to superheated the steal beams. Heat when dispersed loses its heat.

They didn't just go straight down, it covered 40 blocks in rubble.

And yet it happened.

this, not to mention a cadre of hawks with revolving door political careers shared between several presidential administrations and military contractors were arrogant and stupid enough to believe that they could maintain american empire by occupying and controlling the middle east. and they needed a false flag to do it.

makes me so fucking angry

Yeah, they were design in early 60s. They knew shit about fires.

They found parts like 3 miles from the site. Wheels, stone, someone's shoe with a foot inside.

I see this 10/10 post as been ignored by mehbushdid 9/11 tards...

So all that time, nothing rusted? What happens when you mix aluminum and rust?

The jet fuel didn't need to melt the beams when the force of a big ass plane literally fucking rammed a building you idiots

And yes I'm aware the engineer of the building claimed they should have been able to withstand the collisions without collapsing

Yeah fucking right. Dude was just trying to shift as much blame off himself as possible.

Hey now, facts is something that makes people upset here on Yea Forums. Remember the trannies took over so it's all feels now.

Improbable and Impossible

23 hour flight. 4 hours in. 260 liters of fuel. Full of passengers. Slams into a building. If they didn't fall I would have called it an inside job to get an insurance payout.

Yeah called physics that much material comes down it spreads as it form a ruble pile. Think of a jenga tower the building did not fall sideways or even a great chunk fall of to the side, a structure weakens it falls towards the weakened side like a tree being cut down. It doesnt wait for it's infrastructure to become evenly comprised and fall down upon itself. Came straight down if you were alive when it happened you would remember the footage.

>And yes I'm aware the engineer of the building claimed they should have been able to withstand the collisions without collapsing

the engineer was probably right back when the towers were designed because planes were a lot smaller at the time vs the big ass 767's that hit the towers years later.

And yet it happened.

This is not Jenga, it's a hollow tower at almost a mile tall.

user we've being over this. Stop being reasonable. I see you didn't mention the Jews or call the other guy a cuck. That isn't how we roll here.

All that time, things rust.

>it's a hollow tower at almost a mile tall.
>almost

they were almost 1370 ft tall, so more like only a 1/4 mile.

Stop correcting my beliefs

it's been fun....well no not fun, but it has been Yea Forums. this thread has earned a test....

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The question is loaded, because flex or melt it would have tipped over, not neatly collapsed into its own footprint at freefall speed. Both towers and building 7 were obviously controlled demolition, but the TV relentlessly says mah turrursts and God damn if the moronic masses don't actually accept it as gospel.

911 is a case study in the true nature of power.

This thread is full of professional lie protectors make no mistake. Either direct employees or useful idiots obsessed with "debunking" the truth.

Why do retards insist it fell at freefall speed when you can clearly see debris falling faster than the tower itself?

you don't know when these photos were taken. maybe they were taken the next morning when the rescue operations were under way.

kek, include the flat earth & fake moon landing conspiracy's and you have a tin-foil-hat trifecta.

You're misremembering.

Like clockwork.

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forgot to include the the fluoride and chem-trails bullshit too.

Interesting you choose a gif that doesn't actually show the collapse

Ever think this whole, "Never Forget" schtick will die off? With the newer generations? People seem to be forgetting about it more and more each year it feels like.

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What a fascinating tactic.

You really are like "I reject reality and substitute my own."

It's amazing how good the PR wizards are at getting people to emotionally bond with a lie, as if it's a fucking puppy that will die if you start asking questions.

Watch a clip of the entire collapse
Debris is clearly falling faster than the tower collapse proving it's not freefall speed

No one can reach something that’s nonexistent

its ridiculous, of course the steel beams would fail. it doesnt need to reach melting point to fail, it just needs to be close to it

The tower were designed to withstand an impact of a 707.
If jet fuel was what caused the building to collapse, why did building 7 collapse? That building was 500 feet away from the towers in the opposite side. It never got hit or had jet fuel inside the building or out. It did the exact same free fall as the towers themselves. Almost looks like a controlled demolition. How convenient?

Not many people covered that building because it would give away the secret. That building holds the key evidence of the entire operation.

maybe doctor cause 9/11?

>The tower were designed to withstand an impact of a 707

but a 707 is a lot smaller/lighter than a 767.

You think Building 7 is the key? Righty ho then
popularmechanics.com/technology/design/a3524/4278874/

If it was an inside job, why would we do this to ourselves? That's what I dont get.

The official version is bullshit

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Are we STILL pretending there were no demolition charges in the buildings that brought them down in that controlled fashion?

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Does size matter? How fast was it going?

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well yea, bigger & heavier plane has more stored energy/inertia to transfer to the building during impact. plus newer more efficient plane most likely can fly a decent amount faster than the older plane can.

Talk about those towers all you want.
I want to know why the BBC reported building 7 falling BEFORE it fell.
And how an aluminium plane punched through 3 reinforced rings of the Pentagon.
Theres a reason the Pentagon is shaped like it is.
And there is absolutely 100%, no possibility that an aluminum plane did that much damage to the fortress.
An aluminium plane would have crumpled in on itself.
Not bust through 3 blast proof, concentric, concrete rings and leave burn marks on an inner ring.
If you really believe a plane did that, you are a goddamn moron, no questions asked.

For the 7000th time: the beams didn't melt. You don't need to melt steel to loose structural integrity.

engineeringtoolbox.com/metal-temperature-strength-d_1353.html

but a plane isn't 100% aluminum. and all the metal pretty much turns into shrapnel at impact.

example: you wouldn't think an aluminum connecting rod in a race engine would do much damage when it breaks vs a steel connecting rod. but both can do a surprising amount of internal damage at RPM/speed.

Boeing 767 max weight is up to 395,000 lb
That going over 500 mph will do some damage

Lol nope.

Five people can't keep a secret to themselves but the hundreds of people involved in this supposed conspiracy never leaked a word, even those on their deathbeds. Ridiculous.

"The curse of man, and cause of nearly all of his woes, is his stupendous capacity for believing the incredible. The most common of all follies is to believe passionately in the palpably not true. It's the chief occupation of humankind." -- H. L. Mencken

Well remember, jet fuel wasn't the only thing on those planes. They would've also carried tanks full of the mind-control agents airliners use to make chemtrails. Who knows what temperature THAT stuff burns at!

even though Titanium is fairly light it becomes a goddamn nasty bit of shrapnel during impact.

More baseless assertions with no evidence to support them. You must be getting tired and lazy, Ivan

No they were taken out by George Bush because he was mad about niggers.

The Planes Also Had Aids....was it the gays?

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>I want to know why the BBC reported building 7 falling BEFORE it fell.
Because they picked up an incorrect Reuters report that it had and repeated it. They have publicly admitted as much
bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2008/07/controversy_conspiracies_iii.html

And as far as the Pentagon goes, Snopes has collated a number of conspiracies and associated debunking
snopes.com/fact-check/911-pentagon-attack/

inb4 someone calls your links "jew science/propaganda"

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And there were even eye witnesses that saw the plane hit the Pentagon
theguardian.com/world/2001/sep/12/expertopinions.charlieporteronmensfashion

I know. I sometimes wonder why I bother; they are either trolls trolling idiots for the lulz, paid members of Russia’s IRA in St Petersburg or fucking credulous idiots

Jet fuel does not melt steel beams, however, it weakens it considerably. Not to forget to mention, aircraft aluminum, which contains magnesium, which does burn hot enough.

>whether the jet fuel can melt the steel beams or not?
who said they could? or did?

Not to a building that's designed to withstand missile attacks.
Also. Why didn't the SAM sites shoot the plane down?

People like you said the same thing about the NSA spying on us before the Snowden leaks.

and even after the snowden leaks,the nsa is still spying on us.and it probably got even worse with trump

Countless?

>hurr durr,the constitution

nobody cares about the constitution anymore.trump and obama have wiped their ass with it

kek.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_aircraft_hijackings

Wow someone bought and actually ate the russian sandwich. Didn't think you were real

They're still at Savushkina 55, St. Petersburg