Why do the democrats want open borders?

How? They love to bitch and complain yet they refuse to fucking leave

Im not a democrat but Im in the middle.

I feel like we should have a more secure border to stop new people, but I also feel like the ones that are already here, have jobs, families, law abiding citizens and just simply want to work, live and die, they should all be pardoned.

TL;DR Deport criminals, secure the border, pardon ones that are here that work and just wanna live the american dream

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So they don’t have to go to Barnes and Nobles

It increases their voter base, since the vast majority of immigrants are brown, and brown people vote almost exclusively Democrat for more gimmidats.

To make more money on people that would work for cents?

>We are
I know, but some Democrats faint at the sight of serious conflict and don't like to point this out and attack the Dems who DO point it out instead. Load of bullshit.
>The only reason no one wants those jobs is the shitty pay, that is kept shitty by illegals.
We literally try to raise the pay constantly. It's just always blocked by corporate America
>And these people vote for literal socialism that strips more and more rights away.
Oh no, free healthcare, food and housing. So much oppression.

Will you take this shit to /pol/ where it belongs, you're so fucking boring with this shit. In my day, trolling meant something.

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>they should all be pardoned
No they should fucking not. We already tried that and here we are again with the same exact problem. Except now we have millions of democrat voters. If we pardon these people they'll all vote for their slave masters and millions of new ones will replace them.

>We literally try to raise the pay constantly. It's just always blocked by corporate America
Bullshit, when was the last serious attempt to raise the minimum wage at the federal level? And who exactly is "blocking" this?

because they make minorities think that they're the party of the people. yet somehow they're still poor when democrats are in office?

> If we pardon these people they'll all vote for their slave masters and millions of new ones will replace them.
Fine by me. Send them in.

Are you upset this isn't another trap thread? That's why you're mad isn't it

Of course it's fine for you. More of your pets to clean your toilet and make your tacos. Problem is not everyone is a anti-american kike like you.

We tried that while the borders were still open. Which meant people got pardoned WHILE people still poured in.

Not the same as what I feel. I respect your opinion though. There are kids here who have went to school and have graduated college and now have kids. All they know is America and probably have never even been to Mexico. Im ok with people like that staying here

Because they think it makes them intellectual and superior to all the other normal fags

Corporate lobbyists. They've infected Democrats just as much as Republicans. Also the whole "Fiscal Responsibility" bullshit has spread to some Democrats who are trying to stay "in the middle."
How is it anti-american to want more immigrants in the immigrant nation? Go back to the know-nothing party.

Repost cuz your a faggot

Right, but see the problem here is that these same "Americans" hate this country, half of them don't even speak fucking english, and they want socialism and guns banned. Plus the slave masters in the DNC are refusing to get on board with the wall or basically any sort of boarder enforcement. Instead they want more of their slaves to pour into this country so we can repeat this process 20 years and 20 million new voters later. You see what the issue is now?

So all the paste eating red hat wearers can finally hit a respectable body count. These highscores are weak af. if you're going to be domestic terrorists at least hit triple digits you limp dick pussies.

Oh and my favorite part, everywhere they fucking live is the SAME shit hole dump they claim they are "fleeing". Yet they come here and re-create it.

Democrats do not want open borders. That is a myth. They have traditionally supported border security, and that has not changed. It's just propaganda from the right designed to confuse and enrage imbecilic conservative voters, and it works like a charm. They will literally believe anything they are told by their chosen media. There is no Dem candidate running on a platform of "let's just open the borders and let anyone in that wants in".

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>my team good your team bad

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Hey kid, did you get lost on your way to the minecraft thread? Do you fucking mind, we're trying to have a fucking discussion in here

>These same "Americans" hate this country

Aside from the blanket generalization, I can assure you a lot of Mexicans don't "hate" this country. They hate the racism and hate that spews towards them. Same as black, blacks don't "hate" this country but many of them feel hated and marginalized. That's not the same as hating the country. The overall vibe of this country us vs them, my ideals vs yours, my religion vs your religion or lack of one and so on, is and this isn't simply a left or right thing, it's all philosophy. Despite this, most good people are kind of stuck in the middle of it all. Bad people vs good people should always be the narrative but for some reason, the people that have failed to evolve cannot get beyond a persons color. Its actually laughable that we have been this way for centuries.

>They have traditionally supported border security, and that has not changed
Oh really? And when was this? I must've missed it, with the free driver licenses and sanctuary cities. Yeah real strong "border security" there huh?

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to import voters, with absolutely no thought to how they might totally lose control of the cultures they're importing when they're no longer afraid of whatever big bad the democrats generate to control them

already falling apart with the mexicans, can't believe you faggots expected dyed in the wool catholics to become real liberals, fucking lol

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they are not democratic anymore, they are socialist, they hate democracy and the american republic as patriarchal and want to replace it with a godless communist gulag machine

>Aside from the blanket generalization, I can assure you a lot of Mexicans don't "hate" this country
Oh yes they do. And it's not just them, a lot of puerto ricans and hispanics in general feel the same way. And maybe people wouldn't "hate" them so much if they weren't such arrogant shit people who want to turn this country into the same fucking dump they just came from. Did you ever consider that? They should stop demanding their relatives be let into the country without any questions, stop having hoards of kids they can't support financially, stop creating gangs when they move here, and learn some fucking english and MAYBE, just maybe people won't hate them so much?

>They bring the trash in and give them our money in return for votes and cheap labor.
Why does this myth persist?
REPUBLICANS are the ones opposed to minimum wage, AND Mexicans in particular are social conservatives, opposed to both gay marriage and abortion.
If illegals could vote, they'd overwhelmingly vote Republican.
Conservatards don't get this because they assume that they hate brown people so much that brown people won't vote for their evil overlords.
Silly conservitards.

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>godless communist gulag machine
great bait mate

>AND Mexicans in particular are social conservatives
LOL, and here we go with this fucking lie. But yeah sure they're "conservative", they just HAPPEN to vote for democrat bullshit everywhere they fucking go. Funny how that works out isn't it

They don't hate the country, they hate assholes like you trying to save your white 'Murica.

>we're trying to have a fucking discussion in here
No you're fucking not. I was one of the first retards to engage the diarrhea of stormfront /pol/ divide & conquer bullshit. I just stopped giving you the time of day, are you upset?

You know you’re winning when these idiots can only describe the billionaire president as a “reality tv host.” The TDS is unfathomable by those of us who can use reason.

What does open borders mean?

Have you ever traveled into Europe from another country, then traveled between European countries? That is what I'd like.

There's no hate - they're just unwanted and a means to an end. Both liberals and right wingers use foreigners but in a different way.

>The only reason no one wants those jobs is the shitty pay, that is kept shitty by illegals.
THIS

>And these people vote for literal socialism that strips more and more rights away.
Which people? And also: that's not what "literal" means. Were you trying to disambiguate so we didn't think you meant figurative socialism or perhaps metaphorical socialism?

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I see you ran out of arguments. Good, now move along kiddo.

The democrats used to be about workers rights, now they've gone full "eat the rich, smash capitalism."

Yuropoor here. The Schengen room is great and makes travel comfy as shit, eat my white turds amerimutts

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proof?

Kid, I get it you're lost. Just try to relax. Maybe you should check the catalog again for your minecraft thread?

Yeah man, i flew into Switzerland for a sporting event. The line to get processed took awhile (full 737 from the United States), but after that, I have been able to drive in and out of France with no problems. The generous passport stay for 90 days is nice too - no need to hassle with a visa for vacation travel.

Okay great, feel free to fucking move to Europe if that's what you want. Meanwhile we will have actual borders in the US.

Elizabeth Warren wants a wealth tax. Bernie Sanders is going to implement FTTs, which worked out so great for Sweden...

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tired of this meme when i'm whiter than you anyway, their whole crybaby problem is we won't fuck the niggers and the crying just never stops

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How about you ignorant pro-immigrant muppets make yourselves useful and take care of the legal citizens in this country with no homes or food before you bring more welfare cases in illegally that you make us employed taxpayers take care of.

>maybe he didn't catch my sick minecraft joke let me try again

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a wealth tax?!?!?! that's literally what Garl Marks wrote in "Maoism and how to destroy white men with BBC porn"

>LOL, and here we go with this fucking lie.
They're NOT mostly very conservative Catholics?

>they just HAPPEN to vote for democrat
First off, ILLEGALS CAN'T/DON'T VOTE, no matter what the human cheeto wants you to believe about the election.
Secondly: [CITATION NEEDED], You're just work off the assumption that illegals aren't conservative because (see above) you hate brown people so much that they surely wouldn't join you in betraying America by voting for our nation's enemy's picks for office.
That's some ipsie dixit bullshit right there.

Can you read? What does open borders mean? I've never heard about democrats want "open borders" so i want to know what it is.

Well considering I'm a fucking adult and dont waste my time with children's games, no I did not get the fucking joke. You wanna explain it for me kid?

They certainly dont vote Republican in CA or Texas. You have been lied to and are easily manipulated to just believe whatever youre told by MSM when its so easy to just go and check this all out for yourself.

>WAH WAH YOU ARE RACIST WAH WAH
>WHA WHA LET THEM IN THEY VOTE GOP WAH WAH
>WAH LET MY RELATIVES INTO THE COUNTRY WAH

Juan, not a SINGLE person is stupid enough to believe that you or your kin are conservatives. No one. Not even the fucking democrats that run for office are stupid enough to say this. Everywhere your kin move and live is solid blue. California turned into a solid blue state after millions of your family members were given citizenship. Can you show me ONE, just one area of the country your family lives that is republican? Obviously not. But sure, I'm suppose to believe hispanics will move here and vote for republicans, even though there is ZERO fucking evidence of that, and plenty that they want socialism and gun bans. Fuck outta here.

Illegal immigrants - law abiding citizens.
Pick one.

>socialism and gun bans
socialists want guns
Neo-libs like Reagan want to ban them

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He's a dumbass spic himself most likely. I don't know where the fuck he is getting that spics vote for GOP. They sure as fuck don't do that in Florida, Texas or California. Maybe in the bullshit planet he made up in his mind they vote that way. They dont on this one though.

The only reason it pays shitty is you can hire illegals to do the job for cheap and they can't complain about it. See what I did there?

>What does open borders mean?
In Europe it means "as long as we're all from properly civilized countries, let's not worry about borders."

In America, it means "Canada is America's hat, let's not get fussy about the paperwork."
If it weren't for the political energy the forces of darkness get from vilifying brown people, I'd like to think most Americans (even the conservatards) would be all for opening the southern border as much as the northern border.
Oh sure, half of Mexico would all come across the border looking to score super-low-paying jobs working for white people that vote exclusively Republican (ranchers, construction execs, the "investment class").
But if we stated throwing the real "race traitors" in jail, there wouldn't be any work for illegals north of the border, and we wouldn't have any real problem with illegal immigration.

...but keep blaming the party that fights for America and not just itself...

Yup. Reagan tried it with the promise that Congress will patch up the holes in the system. Still waiting on Congress....

To destabilise the country to a degree where patriotism because a laughing matter and the globalists can swoop in an overthrow your rights, your government, your democracy and your sovereignty.
Remember these words for they may come true very very soon if Trump don't get re-elected.
I'm a Swed that fled to England to get away from there clutches.
I can see that the world is slowly turning for the better but it all comes down to the next 10years. If the wrong leaders in the wrong nation's are elected we are all doomed

Corporate lobbyists , blah , blah, blah.
Min wage is best left to the states as cost of living differs greatly throughout this nation . You may not care but the mom and pop shop in Kansas will go out if business if it has to pay it's workers a California living wage.

How do you not get the joke? You were the one making it. What kind of fucking retarded ass delusional manchild do you have to be to think that THIS SHIT right now. Shitposting on Yea Forums is some adult fucking shit. Get this man a mirror. He needs to take a long hard look at that shit he calls his life.

Exactly, and if we "pardon" these people this time guess what? The democrats will spike the ball, throw a fucking parade and jump up and down screaming "HAHAH DRUMPF CAVED IN TO US WE HAVE MILLIONS OF NEW VOTERS AHAHHAHHA, TEXAS AND FLORIDA IS SOLID BLUE NOW". Yeah I don't fucking think so.

Race traitors? So you are a racist? How about you chill bro.

more likely that she will go out of business because Walmart drives them out of business because they can provide lower prices

>Juan,
My name is Rupert Humperdink the Third.
Seriously, I'm whiter than Wonderbread, but I'm not the hot-sauce-dripping asshole you are.
I'm not so dirt-fucking-poor I buy into the whole "if brown people get one more penny of welfare money, white babies will starve in their cribs" line of bullshit.
Good luck with whatever tragic flaws gave you this particular political viewpoint", asshat.

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Interesting, it's almost like brown people are violent savages or something. I'm sure that has nothing to do with it though.

They want open borders because "refugees" and illegal I migrants overwhelmingly vote Democrat.

So why wouldn't they stack the deck in their favor?

>Seriously, I'm whiter than Wonderbread
So you're a kike then? Jewish people aren't white by the way, but nice try.

You are right. They where for strict borders and deporting illegals when Obama be president. Now orange man says same thing. Orange man bad, open borders good. What scares me the most is how the dnc 180 changed its stance and every registered Democrat turned in unison. Are we that far gone where are beliefs are told to us by political parties? We are too stupid for domocracy.

How inbred do you have to be? What part of lower Alabama are you from? etc. etc. That you'd count Nixon as a liberal????

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>Refugees
>Vote

YOU ARE FAKE NEWS

Also I love how you didn't address anything I said and just went on some random rant about literally nothing. You might want to ask your slave masters for some re-training there bud.

Why does your mom suck nigger dick?

NEO-liberal you absolute brainlet
the ideology every capitalist "democracy" on the planet supports, including both american parties

Illegals do vote, but even if they didn't their kids will. And they will vote democrat because their slave masters tell them too.

Ok then, let's begin.
>Oh yes they do. And it's not just them, a lot of puerto ricans and hispanics in general feel the same way.
How many Puerto Ricans and hispanics have you actually met? This is a stupid fucking generalization. If they do hate or complain about this country, it's for the same reasons any other person complain about it. Do you think a white person should be kicked out for saying they hate something about the country?
>And maybe people wouldn't "hate" them so much if they weren't such arrogant shit people who want to turn this country into the same fucking dump they just came from.
What? You think the people coming from these dumps caused it? They're trying to escape shitty situations they cannot control that have ruined their countries. The only reason they live in shitholes in America is because people like you support a system that automatically grants the dumps of America are their only homes.
> They should stop demanding their relatives be let into the country without any questions
You either have never had a family or you're an edgelord who takes their family for granted. Families look out for one another and they're the best support network for people, financially and emotionally. Having families stay together in our country strengthens us.
>stop having hoards of kids they can't support financially
We need more people in our society. Most modern nations struggle to have a healthy birthrate to support themselves. If anything this is further evidence that our government should be doing more to support growing families.
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>stop creating gangs when they move here
Gangs form because society and government won't help people. Local governments tend to ignore any kind of community building, especially when a traditionally white community finds an influx of immigrants. Rather than embrace them they will try their best to ignore them and sometimes event cut services like community centers and education to name a couple. This is how gangs become popular. Also it doesn't help that a lot of middle class whites have the same mentality as you, even if they keep in secret.
>learn some fucking english and MAYBE, just maybe people won't hate them so much
While I'm all for embracing other languages and cultures, immigrants should be able to learn English better, except there aren't good programs to teach it to them. All the best ones I know of in my city are run by volunteers who happen to be well off enough to give their time. If their lack of english really is a a major reason people like you "hate" immigrants, why not support more programs.

It really seems like you haven't given this any thought. All you care is a bunch of brown people are coming into America and they're different but you need to make up easy reasons other than that to want them out. All of your reasons could be solved but you're unwilling to do what it takes to allow them to become full Americans, you just want an easy route where you can sweep them under the rug and not have to worry about it and continue to live your nice white life. Go fuck a tree in your red hat you sad little boy while the rest of us adults actually try to address these problems and bring more voters into the fold. We're actually going to win this fight and when we do, we'll have even more Democrats to vote Republicans like you out of existence.

>He's a dumbass spic himself most likely.
Nope just a fallen Catholic.
Don't forget, in 2000, because of gay marriage being on the table, the spic vote gave Bush Florida (by less than 300 votes) and with it the election.

If I were wrong, Gore would have been president in the 2000's.
Think about it: no 9-11, no Patriot Act, a cleaner, brighter America, no black avenger to save the day in 2008.
No wonder America's enemies back you party.

Blacks in this country are raised being told that the white man us holding you down. They are taught that if you try, whitey will make you fail. They are told it's all whiteys fault and society owes you. I really don't blame them for not trying. Why don't we start telling these kids that they can achieve whatever they want thru hard work. No one owes you anything. You are the master of your own life and success.

Okay Ivan. We believe you, illegals vote.

>Illegals do vote
lies, try again

Why not?

Did you even read my post, or are you a bot?

The first thing they loose control of will be the Democratic party itself

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>And they will vote democrat because their slave masters tell them too.
Most illegals are hired by republicans.

nice impact meme, boomer

I think we should too.

Ideally we would have open borders and no welfare.

So that's what I want but because I'm not a retard I think citizenship matters.

neck yourself ancap

No. In the 70s and 80s Hispanic Americans voted republican. Illegal immigrants today favor Democrats (socialist parties) by 90%. Another reason dnc changed its stance on illegals.

>They're trying to escape shitty situations they cannot control that have ruined their countries. The only reason they live in shitholes in America is because people like you support a system that automatically grants the dumps of America are their only homes.
And there it is, the "it's never their fault their countries suck ass, even those they come to THIS one and re-create it again". No it's never because they're stupid fucking people who are shit. Let me guess, you're gonna say some bullshit about the "drug trade" and the US controlling their governments right? Even though there are tons of hispanic gangs in the US right fucking now. And to answer your question, I have met a lot of puerto ricans and yes they hate this country. They have far more loyalty to that fucking dump of an island than they do USA. They love flagging their toilet paper flag everywhere they go and making sure people know they are retarded puerto ricans. How many have YOU met? Likely few or more likely, none. Hence your blatant liberal cry baby bullshit.

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Oh yeah? Then why is every sanctuary city and state run by democrats? How does that work, friend?

KYS kike.

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Remember, entering this country illegally is a misdemeanor (unless you are seeking assylum).

Does anyone really want to give BIG GOVERNEMNT the authority to deport people who cannot immediately prove their citizenship? Imagine the Jews deporting hard working American people for not having a driver's license on them.

>Does anyone really want to give BIG GOVERNEMNT the authority to deport people who cannot immediately prove their citizenship?

YES, why the fuck wouldn't you want that?

Stop with that bullshit hate brown people shit. This country let's millions legally immigrate here every year and they are more then welcome. The problem is the illegals who come here illegally and thumb their noses at whatever of our laws they don't want to obey. Should we just say everyone in gets to be a citizen? What are you going to do when a billion Chinese start flooding in and become citizens ? Will you call for controls then?

>And there it is, the "it's never their fault their countries suck ass, even those they come to THIS one and re-create it again". No it's never because they're stupid fucking people who are shit. Let me guess, you're gonna say some bullshit about the "drug trade" and the US controlling their governments right?
This doesn't address anything, you're just making more excuses for them to not come here. We have the jobs, lets them them do them.
>Even though there are tons of hispanic gangs in the US right fucking now.
Every immigrant community that has been demonized by people like you start gangs because they're forced into shitty situations where that's the best option for them. By acting like this toward them you're just continuing the cycle.
>They have far more loyalty to that fucking dump of an island than they do USA. They love flagging their toilet paper flag everywhere they go and making sure people know they are retarded puerto ricans. How many have YOU met? Likely few or more likely, none. Hence your blatant liberal cry baby bullshit.
I don't even know how to respond to this and it doesn't even address what I said so I'll say it again. When Puerto Ricans talk about hating this country it's because they're treated like second class citizens. This is perpetuated by people like you. You think they're going to just sit by while from their perspective they're underappreciated and looked down upon by millions of white Americans?

It's the only argument he can make, like all liberals. It's the "if you disagree with me or my agenda you are a racist" move. Problem though is that it doesn't work anymore. People are finally seeing through the bullshit.

The only border that deserves to be opened.

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What a stupid response and a lame misdirection. Answer how we can have a federal min wage when cost of living varies greatly from state to state.

And how should I act towards them? People who are literal criminals and do nothing but destroy everywhere they live and move into, with kindness? Get the fuck out of here with this fucking bullshit already. I bet you're one of those morons who say shit like we should pardon every nigger in prison with weed convictions, even if they were committing other crimes when they had weed on them, which a lot of them do but your slave masters conveniently leave out.

did i ever say i wanted that? i just countered your dumb point about it destroying small businesses

Gang infested city gets ignored by government, look up what party the politicians are. Can't blame Republicans for that. Your stupid theory's are not true anyway.

Then why are your slave masters demanding a federal minimum of $15 an hour? Which would drive this country into an immediate depression if it were to happen. Which is what the democrats want obviously.

Gore gets elected so no 9-11. I'm not even going to read anything else you type.

trump's trade wars are doing that already so you needn't worry

Why, because you said it? At least you guys dropped the fat white part from your soundbite. That must not have scored high with the fat white demographic in your polls.

He can't but he will anyway. He's one of those people who do nothing but make excuses for why hispanics and blacks are violent subhuman monkeys who are incapable of doing anything useful. It's NEVER their fault, it's white people's fault, or the USA's fault, even though this country has existed not even 300 fucking years, and asians have been through tons of wars themselves yet aren't anywhere near as shitty as hispanics. But it's not their, no, it's always something or someone else who is to blame.

Oh my, your extreme ridiculous measure has made me see the light. Open the boarders boys!!!!!

Ah yes, the "we are heading into a depression so you better vote democrat in 2020" card. Isn't the stock market up 300+ points today. Why isn't your team talking about that? No it's only news when it goes DOWN, right? It's only means something if the market loses points, but if it gains points nothing to see there huh?

He's going to call me Hitler next.

Ok , here's your participation award. Now keep quite while grownups talk. There's some crayons in the corner.

>quite
if anything you are the child

>hehe he made a typo
You sure you're not the kid? I thought school was back in session

>When Puerto Ricans talk about hating this country it's because they're treated like second class citizens
They are treated that way because they act like it. But thanks for confirming you've never actually met one before.

You should capitalise the first word in your sentence. You should put a comma after the word anything. You need to put a period after your sentence.

Between open and closed borders, we can find a happy middle ground.

We should cut them free

We have that. We allow millions to immigrate each year legally. We do not have closed borders.

Lol I wish. I would love to see the chimp out though. Those fucking spics love to parade around and beat their chests over how "proud" they are to be puerto rican, but they refuse to stop taking gibs from the US. Then these same people would throw a bitch fit over the US cutting ties with them, likely because they would all die of starvation within the week.

Plus they would have to actually earn US citizenship instead of getting it because their whore mother spread her dirty legs

Why do you always post that image with a loaded question fallacy?

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You didn't answer the question though. The question already knows your penis is small. Why is it?

because it gets retards arguing for hours

Democrats killed a bill for tuition assistance for children of veterans killed in battle, then approved subsidizing the education and health care of illegal immigrants. All you need to know come election day.

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The Selection of the Election is often made by Deception.
>More people, more votes, more chance to fuck with the system.

What exactly is loaded about this question? You either want open borders or you don't, period. You either believe in borders at all or you don't believe in borders.

And put forward, sponsored and co sponsored hundreds of bills that would lead to increased border security. Definitive proof they don't want open borders.

See above. The question is loaded with a false premise. For example:
>why is your dick so fucking small?
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trump supporters never argue in good faith. Honestly you should just mock them. The vast majority of normal americans already think they are a bunch of mass shooter virgins.

>votes
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And how many of those bills included amnesty for every illegal? Funny how your team loves to leave this part out when the jew media says Trump won't sign those bills.

Votes. They don't actually care about these people but if they help these people make it to America its a free vote.
You can't turn a Republican into a Democrat but you can turn a non voter into whatever you want them to vote.
>Welcome to America spic! Don't forget to vote for me! The guy who is the reason you're here!

>jew media
trump is a zionist

do you have any evidence at all of this mass voter fraud you seem to think happens every election?

Is he now? Then why does your team hate him so much? Oh right I forgot, your slave masters love Islam now.

Aw. You’re so cute when you’re angry.

lmao look at the cognitive dissonance firing off in this retards brain

HAHAH DOOD FOR REALZ FOOKIN PWNED HIS ASS XD

Can you fuck off now kid? This thread is for adults

Because the idea that people should have different rights based on the arbitrary location of their birth is fundamentally absurd.

FML/10!!!!!!!!!

>how many of those bills included amnesty for every illegal?
0

So, why do you open every thread with a loaded question with a demonstrably incorrect premise?

thats all trump supporters have, dude. Literally never seen a single one actually argue in good faith.

Zero my ass. I guess you're right though. The better question would be "Why are the democrats importing a slave class and love illegals more than American citizens". Is that better for you?

if (opposition == media)
{print "Fake News";
print "Kikes"};
if (opposition == Palestinians)
{print "Mudslimes};
What a shitty program, made by a shitty programmer

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>Zero my ass
Please by all means find a bill which includes amnesty for every illegal.

what a retarded question.

You didn't answer my question. Instead you posted another loaded question.

Why are loaded question fallacies the only way you know how to argue?

Because they are loosing votes from legal US citizens.

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because he is not interested in arguments
he is interested in circlejerking with other Maganigs about how Dems are literally Satan

proof?

Again, what is loaded about it? Because it makes your heroes look bad? That's why you're crying right?

Shh, you're interrupting me pissing him off. I think I can get him to ALL CAPS soon.

false premise
"When did you stop beating your wife?"

Once again, demonstrate your premise if you wish to include it in a question. Otherwise it's a loaded question fallacy. You are making an assertion with type question, so before your question can be taken as an honest one you must first prove your assertion.

So the democrats don't want open borders? They sure as fuck act like they do

Need to fap to this bitch, but can't ever find much besides her tits in a tight shirt, need some ass and nips. .

Except they have created and continue to create legislation improving border security, which would be mutually exclusive from open borders.

not wanting a retarded vanity project that trump promised mexico would pay for doesn't mean you want to dissolve the border. Jesus christ, how retarded are you incels? does not having sex lower your iq?

Mexican stealing all of the attention, oppression and shitty jobs away from the niggers. The niggers getting all of their drugs from the Mexicans. It is quite the conundrum.

Okay, lets start with free health care for illegals and protection from ICE via sanctuary cities. But let me guess, you're either going to dance around both of those things or just run away like a little bitch right? Or ask me for proof and THEN run away like a little bitch.

Hundreds of bills to secure our border? Neither side has done that. You see, what is going on here is they have divided us into two teams . They don't have to do anything except blame the other team. That's all they do on everything. It distracts us from all the money they give out like candy to their supporters, friends, and family. Huge debt. Points finger at the other team. Illegal immigration can be solved by passing strict laws and enforcing them . It really is that easy.

Right, but in the states and cities where they are in office they do the exact OPPOSITE of border security. Interesting how that works.

We are still short on labor though. That won't work.

Iowa and Kansas are two deep-red states, both with loudmouth anti-immigration assholes in Steve King and Kooky Kris Kobach, but yet their own states do not require E-Verify background checks for hiring. Why is the totally red state legislature of Iowa complicit in providing this grey/black market for labor by requiring employers to use the national database before hiring? Until some of these red states start taking care of business right at home, they could kindly STFU about immigration and border security that they feign concern for.

Niggers don't work anyway so they don't care if Mexicans take those jobs

>Am big boi
>yoi kid
>am bog boi

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>DUR IF YOU DON'T VOTE FOR MY TEAM YOU'RE AN INCEL DUR

That's not how that works, kid

No one has the right to break the law.

Someone post her tits please uwu

nice digits
true but Mexicans still stealing all of the attention and oppression from the niggers

Please show us one that would fix the border.

trump supporters have never had sex and you know it

Show us. And not just, " they allocated money in the budget". Show a proposed law that would make it better.

New, loyal voters. By the millions.
They are beyond a nice "to have."
They are now crucial to get Democrats elected at the national level as fewer and fewer white working class folks trust them anymore. We're even seeing erosion among blacks. Party leadership sees all this. They know they either have to change direction (to maintain traditional voting coalitions) or import millions of uneducated people who won't ask questions.

show proof of illegals voting en mass

he can't, so he won't

He's not going to do that. For the democrats, "border security" means giving anmesty to every illegal, disbanding ICE, no wall, giving them all government jobs and free health care(that is paid for by US citizens). Then we fast forward to 20 years in the future with millions of new illegals with the democrats saying "give them all amnesty we PROMISE next time we'll fix it".

It's also to pad the census. They don't want the citizen question on there and want them all counted as citizens. If they are clustered in sanctuary cities that are all Democratic districts it could translate to more Democratic representatives.

ice is where cops who have too many domestic battery charges to stay on the force go. it absolutely should be disbanded and replaced with something that has actual accountability and oversight.

Who said anything about illegals? There was nothing in OP's post saying illegal. But since you brought it up, let's talk about it. One, though the numbers now may not be huge, SOME illegals have voted. Two, states like California and Maryland, and cities like NYC, are already letting illegals vote in local elections or have plans for that in the works. It's only a matter of time before they are voting for president in these same states. But here's where the numbers blow up and get serious. The kids they have here ARE CITIZENS. **THEY** get to vote when they're 18. Why the fuck would they vote Republican and vote against all the entitlements they get?

Think, dude. Think.

lol you see what I mean? let me guess, you want ICE replaced with something that turns a blind eye to illegals staying where ever and doing whatever they want to do right? big evil ICE deporting literal criminals and people who broke immigration laws. did they deport one of your hispanic relatives? is that why you hate them so much?

so you're basically mad that U.S. citizens are voting democrat?

Wow look at that. You ran away like a little bitch, just like I knew you would.

Except white people. They literally get away with murder, rape, theft, etc. every day. Badge not always required

Not him but yeah, I'm upset that literal monkey trash are voting for the same politics that turned their own countries into shit hole dumps. Then they come here and recreate it again. It's fucking ridiculous.

Interesting, and yet your slaves refuse to stay in their containment zone countries and move here. Why is that, if whites are so bad like you say? Why do your slaves keep leaving their containment zones?

you're absolutely retarded lmao. I'm seriously beginning to wonder if never having sex turns you into an ignorant racist or if you never have sex because you're an ignorant racist.

>DUR RACIST
>HUR SEX
>DHUR DUR DUR

Didn't I already tell your retarded ass to get the fuck outta here?

Bullshit. You just going to make up fake facts to fit your fantasy?

Aww did somebody upset the frightened baby

Fact: Immigrants contribute more in tax revenue than they take in government benefits

Fact: Undocumented immigrants pay an estimated $11.6 billion a year in taxes

What is your proof? Other then you tying "fact:"?

Interesting how your first "fact" claims immigrants but only your second specifically mentions illegals. You can fuck off with this kikebook "undocumented" bullshit too. Only people calling them that are liberal bleeding heart faggots. And where is the evidence of this?

pbs.org/newshour/amp/economy/making-sense/4-myths-about-how-immigrants-affect-the-u-s-economy

There is more in there try educating yourself a bit

>pbs
Kike news is not a source retard

I'm sorry I only accept sources that support my established beliefs.

Not even going to waste anymore of my time with you babies. What do i need to do get fox news to read it to you or trump to tweet it out or get someone with a nazi or confederate flag or with a kkk hood to explain it to you for you to understand the truth. You are either a racist, a troll, just plain ignorant or all of the above. Stop following the blind, educate yourself

Oh, I didnt realize the 20 minutes had already passed since the last time this troll bait was posted.

Get a load of this faggot lmao

To import voters, you retarded nigger.

Damn bro, triggered much? Anyway, I don't believe for a second that illegals aren't a drain on the economy. If they contribute oh so much, then why is your team so upset over immigrants not getting citizenship if they collect welfare? Why do we HAVE to give them free health care and driver licenses? Why can't they pay for it, if they're all working and have jobs?

genetics. Not like we can choose our dick size

That article is about immigrants, not illegal immigrants . the one section where they talk about Illegal immigrants they even switch back to immigrants to make their point. It also only talks about gov aide. It doesn't factor in cost of public schools, school lunch programs, even school breakfast and dinner programs and a hosts of others. You guys like to point out that Legal immigrants pay more taxes then the aid they get is all true since Legal Immigrants are not eligible for the kind of aid they want to use when doing this kind of math. no one is complaining about legal immigrants anyway. We are talking about Illegal immigrants who come here illegally, work here illegally, commit identity theft so they can illegally work here.

>Why can't they pay for it,
because then it wouldn't be so appealing for them to come here and that would cost the democrats votes in our elections

But you see, democrats think legal and illegal immigrants are the same fucking thing, when they are not. That's the problem. They think all hispanics are illegals or their parents are illegals. They refuse to acknowledge there is a difference.

Here's a question for lefties and righties: Why do democrats pretend to care about black people? What have they done to help black people?

ps who else having trouble posting, taking forever, "bad connection"

they dont though, no running candidate is advocating for open borders, they're advocating letting people in who are seeking asylum in through reasonable avenues.

They pretend because they want their votes. It happens every fucking election cycle, where we have to hear these ridiculous proposals that cater to niggers when EVERYONE knows deep down they will never happen. And yes I'm having issues posting.

Why are borders?

Define "reasonable", because what we have right now are people abusing the law and claiming it AFTER they get caught trying to seek across the border. So basically they're trying to sneak in undetected first, and then they apply after they get caught.

what's wrong with her face? genuinely asking

>Why do the democrats want open borders?
because it triggers the right

1. votes
2. "equality
3. to piss off conservatives
4. They're stupid and have given up on bowing down to blacks for votes so now they're trying this

Why don’t you leave your Mom’s basement?

Incorrect, illegal immigrants commit crimes at a lower rate than natural born American citizens

cato.org/blog/illegal-immigrants-crime-assessing-evidence

>Incorrect, illegal immigrants commit crimes at a lower rate than natural born American citizens
well there are slightly "fewer" illegal immigrants here than there are natural born...dumbass

Why are they committing crimes at all? They're not even suppose to fucking be here. This is such a pathetic argument too. "Oh well they DO commit crime but that not much haha". Yeah let me go to another country illegally and commit whatever crimes i please. That is fucking ridiculous. I don't believe that bullshit anyway.

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>he honestly thinks they haven't accounted for proportion

Go home, kid.

My dude, 100% of illegals committed a crime by coming here illegally.

>honestly believes they didn't take that into account

Exactly, and they are also committing crimes by working here without a visa. Two things the democrats ignore though because that doesn't fit their illegals aren't criminals agenda. Of course when you point this out they backtrack and try to say b-b-b-but misdemeanors! Like that's suppose to be a fucking excuse.

>Why do the democrats want open borders?

why is op a faggot?

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>So basically they're trying to sneak in undetected first, and then they apply after they get caught.
>100% of illegals committed a crime by coming here illegally.
>They're not even suppose to fucking be here.

To apply for asylum in the U.S., you must be physically present in the U.S., they are not abusing the law.

uscis.gov/humanitarian/refugees-asylum/asylum/affirmative-asylum-process

>They're not even suppose to fucking be here

Remind me how you ended up in this country

God fucking dammit mook post my comments you fucking useless chink!

tf are you doing here m8

No democrat wants open borders.

And they have US embassies in their countries, which is considered US Soil. They don't have to cross the border illegally to apply. But again, these are inconvenient facts that the democrats always leave out.

The link I provided came from Cato institute, a libertarian think tank founded by Charles G. Koch and funded by the Koch brothers. Even they found your boogieman is more innocent than you believed.

sourcewatch.org/index.php/Cato_Institute

Well 100% committed a crime.

Adiós motherfucker

I feel like AOC could be an animated fish in a place movie

fpbp

democrats need to open the borders of the banks so i can has a better opportunity

Every one in the USA is an illegal immigrant. Bet you cant prove me wrong

What part of physically present is not clear? Literally step one is "arrive in the US", they MUST arrive in the US to claim asylum.

uscis.gov/humanitarian/refugees-asylum/asylum/affirmative-asylum-process

My parents followed the immigration process. So why aren't your pets that you love so much doing that? Too fucking stupid to do it I'm guessing?

Just no enforcement. Same thing.

Why are republicans so easily triggered?

Votes. End of thread.

Do your parents know you are retarded?

Because people are waking up to their terrible ideas so they have to import more poor people to make them dependent on the dems, ensuring their reelection.

AOC needs to open her borders so I can board her.

Leftcucks will do whatever their Jewish university professors want them to. Solution? Stop idolizing the opinions of Jewish professors.

Are you a native american. If not you are an illegal immigrant

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i don't have any specific name for the phenomena, but the more irritating these fucks are, i'll find it. it was a few philosophy courses ago in "philosophy of happiness" where i learned that people in poor nations are generally happier than people in wealthy nations. what ends up happening with people in wealthy nations is pretty fucked up because they covet wealth, thinking they have the opportunity to get it--one of the things this nation convinces people--and then even though they're already way better off than people in poor nations, they end up sad that they can't have a mansion and a luxury car. finally, a sociopathic martyr syndrome kicks in--which is exhibited a lot in stupid fucking celebrities that want to send 100,000 water bottles to homeless people in summer, etc which really doesn't save the world but it makes them look and feel better about themselves--and average people want to give away the opportunity to get a piece of our nation.

they are:

1. immature
2. selfish (despite feeling like saints and martyrs)
3. unfair to the entire world because letting 50 million losers have our nation just because they were able to walk in here still leaves people in poverty in 95% of it

fuck them. the best you'll achieve if you try to explain this to them is that they'll call you an asshole or cry.

Jesus, wasn't the npc meme originally a conservative meme? Like why cant you guys actually create anything? It just makes us look so fucking bad.

Ever notice how much trump sticks his butt out?

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They don't. Stop using over exaggeration as a scare tactic.

Russian troll post.

Leftcucks will do whatever their Jewish university professors want them to. It's been like this since the1950s. Solution? Stop idolizing the opinions of Jewish professors.

Native Americans would once roam the land cutting off the scalps of women and children for chuckles, don't give me this bullshit. Violence begets violence.. some tribes just had to learn the hard way.

They don't. Stop using over exaggeration as a scare tactic you Russian troll.

this guy gets it. double dubs speaking the truth

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So you're saying we should let in illegal immigrants so they can exterminate us, as our ancestors exterminated Indians?

Or are you saying that all peoples have the right to commit crimes?

It's called good fucking posture. Why not attack his failed public policy or something? You fucking dingleberrys are going to lose us the coming election because you quantize the dumbest fucking parts of the political spectrum..

the human race did not originate in north america. the only place "native homo sapiens" can claim would be africa.

>Russian troll
Are you stupid fucks still on this? When it's already been proven that it's YOUR side that pays people to post bullshit online

Top kek.
Ofcourse illegals would support somebody who wants them out of the country. How retarded are you?

They don’t. Try harder next time.

Trump level comprehension of the situation right here. Bravo.

I have the same native blood that Elizabeth Warren has so you GTFO of my country paleface.

both sides pay, you kidding me? The DNC was outed early for using Maryland based troll farms. The GOP (or its fairweather supporters and meme makers for the lulz) conjured Russia. We just wanted to stick it to the tumbler fucks, instead we got fuck clown world.

Jews masturbate to the idea of white displacement so it's expected for their shabbos goyim to follow suit.

Try reading a history book not based on the 1800s British adventure novels you fuckin tard. Specifically your idea of who was scalping, why, and who was paying per scalp. Dumbass.

Trump doesn't seem to mind, he hires illegals.

Jews masturbate to porn.
You masturbate to your 1860s race war fantasy.
You’re projecting.

Why do poor people care about politics? The same decisions will be made no matter who is in office.

And let me guess, the history books you personally approve were written by kikes, correct? Go ahead and name ONE book you would recommend. Bet money a kike wrote it.

Actually, businesses prefer hiring illegals--it gives them the ability to pay lower than minimum wage and threaten to call ICE if the workers complain.

This is a win/win for businesses.

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Suck my dick, Olive Oatman was lucky for not getting her ears burned off like the others. Not all tribes were violent, and not all tribes were peaceful. You paint a narrative of an innocent native being rapped by whites to guilt people into following your idealistic politics. You are the worst kind of purveyor of history, the revisionists. Are early Europeans innocent? fuck no, but neither were the Natives. It's why we basically fought a decades long gorilla war with them. Just like we fight ISIS today, so we can keep the hegemony of a peaceful inner society, where people don't need to fear being rapped beaten and scalped by a bunch xenophobic luddites.

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So their families can get in without paperwork.

always at Clinton fundraisers

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I hate cuckolds for the rich like you more than I hate any other type of person.

You fucking morons don’t get that the very wealthy are hiding all their assets, subsidizing their workforce with tax dollars at the same time, running Ponzi schemes, running predatory lending operations, allowing international investments to make real estate more about money than public utility driving rent sky high, and then there’s all the fucking Epstein’s, Weinstein’s, war profiteering like Cheney and Rumsfeld companies getting literal billion dollar no-bid contracts during Bush, same shit happening now with Kushner and Israel, it goes on and on. This is without even delving into the CIAs decades of destroying foreign countries for “US Economic Interests” which in practice means forced privitization of oil by means of violent revolution and assassination.

And faggots like you will say “taxation is theft, the wealthy earned it”. Fuck you, the wealthy are criminal scumbag pieces of shit and Amazon would run just fine if Jeff Bezos made 10,000 times less money and maybe then wage labor wouldn’t be the absolute shitshow it is now if these egomaniac mega-yacht buying salespeople were cut down to more reasonable size.

But ANY time somebody suggests making things better, idiots like you cry Communism because you’ve been brainwashed by a system that would put you hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt for cancer treatment without any hesitation.

God mom is fucking smart. Why could we not have her and instead got a warhawk.

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So why didn't Obama fix it in his first two years of total control?

Remember when he said he would bang his daughter?

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Because Obama caved in to Wall Street and gave them nearly a trillion dollar bailout with zero accountability after they gambled with the economy and made intentionally predatory loans to repossess homes.

Because when Flint’s water supply, which had a clean source, was privatized and replaced with filthy tainted garbage, he covered for the Republican politician responsible and pulled a public stunt of wetting his lips on a glass of tap to tell people to stop worrying about their very preventable poisoning.

He was never the radical Republicans made him out to be. He was a Che Guevara t-shirt- the establishment selling the image of rebellion to tell the angry masses to shut up. He was a narcissist tool who dealt with healthcare by giving corporate America more money, droned with abandon, persecuted more whistleblowers than anyone before him. The Iran deal is one of the only truly “against the establishment” things he ever did other than being “black while president”.

He was never what he was sold to be.

That dude looks like a faggot.

Bs. Their vote would only be based on immigration and you know it .

They probably had a threesome right after this photo was taken