He's not even a good psychologist

>clean your room, bucko

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>brainlets can't even determine his beliefs

that's because his beliefs are fucking retarded

No, he is pretty good. You all just don't want to face the fact you chose who you become and that comes with facing yourself and admitting where you went wrong and why you didnt have the will to do better. Most his stories just support how to keep up that mentality towards yourself.

>jungian gibberish to make his shit seem smarter than it is
>no understanding and complete misrepresentation of both PoMo and marxism
>martyr complex, complete misrepresentation of bill c-16
>made an absolute ass of himself in the zizek debate
>lobster analogy is shit and inaccurate
i could go on

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>> He's not even a good psychologist
Yeah, but you can tell by his exhausted-looking eyes that he's a good and thorough masturbator.

Everyone who wears a suit everywhere he goes is a selfimportant faggot

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it's 600IQ rick and morty fans like you that make him seem even more retarded than he already is
stop huffing his intellectual farts and stop pretending you're smarter than everyone else, you're not

nope, but he can manipulate young boys that are looking for something to blame for all their problems, we use to call that religion.

he's also too much of a brainlet to understand the very apparent motivations for the holocaust
it's not jungian drivel and not the "mark of cain" or whatever esoteric shit he pulls out his ass
youtube.com/watch?v=jMqQBLZwRIE

>anon1: I never see a specific criticism, always vague because brainlets can't even determine his beliefs.
>anon2: that's because his beliefs are fucking retarded

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He’s not bad, his actually psychological work is pretty impressive and as a behaviorist is actually among the highest of his field.

When looking at his “political message” you have to take it with a grain of salt as he trying to reach out and change behavior, why he never draws any conclusions that might keep individuals from listening (as to whether god exists, what is actually at fault in the economy etc). I honestly don’t think he cares much at all for politics but changing human behavior of young men for the betterment of themselves. Which he’s a great success at.

Postmodern Neomarxism: the dumbest term since Dragon of chaos

no, he cares about making money off these washed up young men and always being vague about his reactionaries ideals gives him plausible deniability

You know Marx was a hack, right?

yeah walking into large populated places and opening fire is a drastic improvement on their behaviour.

great counterargument, mate

you probably watch ted talks too and think they are cutting edge

I don’t think wanting to make money and helping young men are mutually exclusive. There’s no way he’d know that his lecture series on you tube would lead to fame or success.

Honestly I don’t think he even care about politics all that much other than baseline rights like free speech, etc.

Not sure what your referring to user, I know he’s changed the behavior of alcoholics, likely school shooters or suicide lonely individuals.

Whom does he tell them to blame?

i don't mean the lectures, i mean all that happened after he blew up through the free speech controversy
he made himself into a martyr through misrepresenting c-16, then went on to reactionary propaganda like pragerU, made a self help book that is basic as it gets and now he just repeats what his incel fans want to hear for patreon bucks
there is a reason why he never reached fame before he got into politics

how so

You have to have some way of describing the all these commie front groups who usually deny being communists.

youtu.be/XfsJxkobPXk

Where does the grandma sticking her pubic hair in his mouth dream fall?

first off, the communist university narrative is a conspiracy theory at best
also, pomo-neomarxism is inherently contradictory and just shows how little he understands what both marxism and pomo are about

Totally. We’re all so much smarter than him.

stop huffing his farts incel

Thats why he's teaching. Nobody succeeding in their career takes up teaching.

there are the rare professors that actually did something, like Feynman, but yes, most are just too shit to actually work in their field

If he wasn’t trying to help then why do the lectures in the first place, happened before he got famous. I’ll admit he’s certainly engaging in activities to make money but I can’t blame him for that.

Let’s be honest that bill coverage was a debacle, his point was merely “I think that some of the things that I say in my lectures now might be illegal,” “I think that they might even be sufficient for me to be brought before the Ontario Human Rights Commission under their amended hate speech laws.”

Which was devolved into a shit show.

and fucks it up

His actual academic papers have tens of thousands of citations and he lectured at fucking Harvard.
>b-but he said something I didn't like in a Youtube video once so he must be wrong about EVERYTHING
OK retard

Ontario??

This faggot that you incels worship is a fucking nook???

Y to the ikes

thats not what religion is. What he does is being a father figure for broken families. He gives a sense of belonging and direction. Not everythings a religion, unlike what fucking peterson would have u believe. I guess jokes on u

sure the lectures may be a good gesture, but that's all in the past and what he's doing now is just lazy propaganda and patreon bux
the c16 thing was shite from the start since he misrepresented "not being able to fire trannies for being trannies" as 1984 LITERALLY MAO ZEDONG ZOMG WE'RE ALL DOOMED

>Gibberish is only that to those who lack understanding.
>Use of acronym betrays the postmodernist.
>Person actually in the arena, drawing a line, eloquently defending what he believes in , all the while being dead-on correct. accusing him of a martyr-complex is a bit arrogant don;t you think ?
> I'll watch the Zizek debate and get back to you on that.
> Lobster analogy is brilliant and hightly accurate. It is a clear and present example on how hierarchies are ingrained in life as we know it and that your perceived place in it is regulated biochemically by serotonin.
But sure, please don't stop repeating cheap, intellectually dishonest opinions that are not your own.

yeah he's your weird right leaning step dad who sells you a self help book and tells you to clean your room
that's a pretty pathetic role to fill honestly and says a lot about the kind of individual that would fall for his bullshittery

>He's not even a good psychologist
Right. Only the whacked leftist professors are the smart ones!

Projection

Better than your weird left leaning step dad who likes blacked and is queer.

maybe its a pathetic role, but that role needs to be filled for, like, 50% of kids

some retard i work with talks about him *all the fucking time*. he told me about a peterson theory about lobster behavior and related it to masculine behavior. it was total pseudoscience garbage. the guy sounds like a joke from what i can tell.

So you don’t think that colleges are generally indoctrinating young people towards leftist principles?

How is the lobster analogy shit? It's simply stating hierarchys are found in nature and arnt some social construct. He's against any censor of speech how did he misrepresent the bill? Guys fine.

Anyone with a brain knows colleges are leftist breeding grounds.

They don't like people like Peterson because he exposes that and encourages you to think for yourself instead of relying on leftist group thinking.

>dubs of truth checked

Because your worldview should never change as you mature?

spoken like a real nu Yea Forums.

He did not misrepresent the bill, people just say that because they don't want to admit most laws passed are bullshit

Just because I defended him I'm pretentious? Season 1 Rick and Morty was awesome. You some kind of hipster?

keep on crying pathetic libtard

I can agree with you on both points to a degree.

I don’t think the interviews or the live audience talks are all that helpful and lead to a feedback loop of spouting off lacking political points to get more followers. Books is just a basic self help book, but let’s be honest getting someone who needs to read one to read it is a net benefit.

Yeah I’m not going to say much on the bill debacle, it was a shitshow

aww your feelings got hurt. time for your juice box.

>Manipulates
Telling people to grow up and listen to their conscience so they can get out of their literal version of hell is malicious apparently

him making fun of you makes you think his feelings are hurt?

bit of a stretch, don't ya think?

The professor of psychology is a bad psychologist? Why?

I don’t think they are “indoctrinating”, clearly there are more left leaning people in academia and they expose students to left leaning ideas. While I’m sure there are some quack professors that will grade beliefs rather than the merit of the work, I’ve never had one like that in my entire undergrad and grad career (granted law school is pretty apolitical).

its funny how the creator of this thinks its brilliant
but it just showed the whole point went right over your head

He butchered it. Funny he has a saying you have no right to someone elses idea until you fully comprehend it. It's the spergs who want to appear smart that misrepresent him the most, aside from msm of course.

>>Gibberish is only that to those who lack understanding.
stop huffing your own chaotic female farts
>>Use of acronym betrays the postmodernist.
adhom, what an enlightened rational you are.
>c16
not a single person has yet been convicted under c16 this way because it never said what he claimed
it was a law to add trannies to protected classes like gays and blacks, so they can't be discriminated on that basis concerning work etc, not mao zedong's 1984 thought police takeover
>zizek
he opens the debate by "critiquing" marx on the basis of "so i read this activist pamphlet for 19th century peasants so i know all about marxism". he literally admits he never read his substantive works like Kapital
>lobsters
comparing human social structures in any way to animals with barely a brain is lacking, we are inimaginably complex even compared to other primates, so using lobster hierachies as a legitimization for human ones is awful, we might as well use 1 cell eucaryotes as a basis for why hierarchy is totally bunk then

Need context man, not gona just must my blind narrative on something. Link?

I take it you've never read anything by Smith or Marx then?

He encourages you to think like him. It's only people who already agree with him and aren't self-critical who don't notice that.

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"you're all too stupid to even understand his enlightened message"
compare it to the r&m copypasta:
"To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head."

what are they being indoctrinated into?

>He encourages you to think like him

No he doesn't, have you even listened to him talk with people who disagree with him but can have honest conversation like with Russel Brand?

he's just an e-celeb for rightwing boomers and failedsons

Not true at all. You've obviously never listened to him.

bold statement.

I disagree with him often, and I'm reasonably self critical. I can't say I get the impression he wants everybody to think like him. Unless what you mean by that is he has opinions (like everybody) and thinks they are mostly correct (just like everybody else) and shares those opinions vocally (most people do)

>Hurr durr chaos is female, order is male
people take this man seriously.

the cult of intersectionality

be a bit more specific
what do you think that means

Literally he said in that same post... Leftist principals.

he got popular by misrepresenting the c16 bill at the height of the tranny discourse and people keep fueling his name now because they agreed with his initial political stance

The man cant even recognize his own religious biases, hes just a psychologist with a degree, hes certainly no philosopher or enlightened thinker

No it's a feedback loop. The students are the universities are cash crops.

I won’t argue with that characterization, certainly a fair bit of it

I’m a psychologist who doesn’t even agree with a lot of what he says, but he is incredibly intelligent. You don’t know what you’re talking about

There is currently a ideology that demands all of humanity to be "equal" and also divides people groups based on ethnicity then treats their relative success or failure as a zero sum game. In other words, Lots of people think that in order for person A to be happy, person B needs to suffer. It's not rational and is mostly based in revenge and spite, so it works more like a cult than an actual train of thought. I live in a college town, and the college is VERY much a patron to this idea. I think most colleges are. I can;t really speak for all of them, but still, that SEEMS to be the case at least.

>amazingly articulate
articulate adjective
ar·tic·u·late | \ är-ˈti-kyə-lət \
Definition of articulate
1a : expressing oneself readily, clearly, and effectively
an articulate teacher
also : expressed in such a manner
an articulate argument
b : divided into syllables or words meaningfully arranged

Peterson is the opposite of articulate. He is Obtuse. He deliberately wraps everything he says in layers of nonsense and contradiction.

This is one of the best pieces I have read about him. It is long but a very accurate assessment.

currentaffairs.org/2018/03/the-intellectual-we-deserve

It's' just a slightly more complex way of saying

"If you think Jordan Peterson is smart, it's because you are stupid"

It's not a real argument, just an playground insult

So any time an idiot tries to explain something beyond his understanding and fails because he's an idiot you blame the guy who came up with the theory? So anyone, no matter how smart and on point, is automatically a "joke" when he gets a large fanbase that's automatically gonna have some retards among it that misrepresent him?

I love peterson but i got to admit he's a bit tricky to follow. If someone wants Articulate, G.K. Chesterton is unrivaled

most people are so stupid/arrogant that they literally incapable of learning something meaningful

Look at all these nonarguments.

A bold and cynical statement. Also one that's complete bullshit. Most people are smarter than you give them credit for.

Lobsters are a common ancestor, he only stated the lobster displays beneficial changes in health based on it's amount of serotonin due to its position in it's lobster hierarchy. Much like humans.
The bill seeks to alter speech, the first of a protected class. It's not difficult.

>Most people are smarter than you give them credit for

no they're really not or else the world wouldn't be this way

Not the guy you were replying to

i believe what you were trying to say is that although certain groups are more privileged than others they try to bring them down to make the playing field more equal for the less privileged groups (ie one must suffer for another to be happy)? Just because an ideology is popular does not mean college is a breeding ground for it, to counteract your anecdotal evidence my college does nothing like this, actually in tbe STEM field i believe whites are a minority and have an easier time getting in than indians/asians (higher standards)

Im also curious conceptually whats wrong with equaling the playing field, i mean we're talking equal opportunity here, ie able to participate on campus and join classes on the same competitive level, not equal result ie everyone gets a degree

Here's one right here:

>Generalising based on pasta

>Lobsters are a common ancestor
This makes no sense? Did you mean we share common ancestor with lobsters? Can you name an animal that we don't share a common ancestor with? I mean, mammals emerged about 300 million years ago. When did this common ancestor we shared with lobsters exist? 500 million? 1 billion years ago?

He uses religious texts as a heuristics truths. Please it's the misrepresentation of his beliefs from cucks like you that makes him even more famous

Hes a psychologist not a biologist. Also not the guy you were replying to

C16 included trannies as a protected class along with the rest when it came to discrimination in the public sector ie workplace. So, youre aware you cant discriminate based on age, gender, sex, race, religion, and orientation, yes? Now transexual is added to the list, thats all it is. You cant not hire transexuals because theyre tranny, it must be a work related reason. Its not preventing anyone from saying trannies should die, try it out

ok
My "anecdotal" evidence is not countered because most people are saying it. The only reason it's being discussed is because people were referencing it in this very thread.

And no, that's not what I was trying to say. Other groups are not "more privileged than other", they are advantaged because their ancestors did things a certain way and earned their positions. Keeping what you earn is a right, not a privilege.

Your friend fucked up the theory. Winning is dopaminergic. Win you win at things your confidence builds. If you lose at things your confindence wanes. We see this is lobsters and the same system is found in humans. People need to learn to win and that they can win.

When you win* voice to text fucked up.

He's extremely well read, uses logic, uses common sense. He ponders things for considerable time before he weighs in.
You think emotionally and spend maybe 5 mins "thinking" before considering yourself an expert.

no i dont think i am making him more famous, i know youre trying to get a flame going under these people so you keep getting these nice you's

he cannot reconcile his religious beliefs with his societal "truths", he just kinda avoids it because its a clear bias. Its present in every talk with him

>Most people are smarter than you give them credit for
imagine how fucking retarded the average human is, then realise half of them are even dumber

>Articulate, G.K. Chesterton is unrivaled
Could that be because selection over time has parsed the most sapient of his views for consumption? I mean I'm sure he had his off days, but the internet wasn't around to document his every word back then.

oh gotcha. what did you earn that you arent able to keep for the benefit of society? Idk what position means

I heard him say really disturbing things about Christchurch and fucking the animal crossing dog last week. This man needs to be caught and taken in.

he's not well read, he constantly misrepresents PoMo, marxism and other movements and books. he's far from logical, as can be seen in the gibberish about feminine chaos and slaying dragons he likes to cloak his neoreactionary views with. common sense is the opposite of an argument and should not be respected by anyone. i agree he is very thoughtful with most of his replies, as to make them vague in order to give him plausible deniability. he also made a complete ass of himself in the zizek peterson debate

>b : divided into syllables or words meaningfully arranged
I watched his lectures on behavior before he went viral. I believe he's invested a great amount of time into dissecting idiologies, and breaks them down layer by layer. Either way facing your demons and taking responsibility and why it's important helped.

it's funny how the EVERY SINGLE PERSON that obsesses over him are all fox news devotees. tells you that his appeal is about about right wing ideology and nothing about his theories being correct or what he says is true.

Clean your room; Gas the Jew

No, I mean actually find any of his books and read the whole thing. I can't describe it, because his articulation far surpasses mine. He holds many views I don't agree with (he's catholic for starters) but I consider him the smartest and most capable writer in the past 300 years at least. That I know of anyway. He isn't a Churchill type guy (some funny quotes but overall an ass).
I don't believe humans ARE dumb. We scratch lines into processed trees to communicate. We set our food on fire because we know it makes it safer for consumption. By default, Humans are amazing. You're just angry at them for not doing what you want, but they are still smart.

>he's not well read
What are you basing that assertion on?

I was under the impression the bill mandates pronouns and not adhering was discrimination. Trannies should die. Wow that feels good.

excuse me, but ackchyually doctor peterson is an enlightened academic who himself said he is neither left or right, just asking questions (selectively to only one side)

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as i said, his constant misrepresentation of PoMo, marxism and, for example, the reasons and justifications for the holocaust. this is either ignorance or malice, whichever sounds worse to you

I'm going to stop to right there son. "for the benefit of society" is not even how I think of things. Society is just individuals interacting with each other, so I think in terms of individuals.

By position I mean they have land, with crops and wells and such on it, allowing for food and drink and prosperity. It can also mean social status but I don't much like the idea of inherited social status. I prefer position in regards to nature and resources.

>I don't believe humans ARE dumb. We scratch lines into processed trees to communicate. We set our food on fire because we know it makes it safer for consumption. By default, Humans are amazing. You're just angry at them for not doing what you want, but they are still smart.
i don't think that is what he meant... sure if you draw your baseline with a chimp then everyone here is a genius

that may be true but obviously right wing brainlets take his words and use them to further their bizarre ideology. stupid people impressed over big words.

>No, I mean actually find any of his books and read the whole thing. I can't describe it, because his articulation far surpasses mine.
I spoke out of ignorance but I think I understand. I'm only vaguely familiar with his work but I do know he's greatly admired, no doubt for good reason.

I've not heard him say if he takes religious texts literal. He takes truths from the texts and relates them to psychological theories mostly

I can smell the unclean vaginas in this thread. Chingos of women lmao. Go make me a sandwich.

it literally doesn't even contain the word pronoun. it is just to treat trannies the same as gays and blacks, meaning no discrimination in the workplace or state

your grammar is hurting me. I'm not the user you were speaking to, but please, take a few more seconds to polish your sentences. It makes your arguments more convincing too (even if it adds no content to the meat of it).

From m maps of meanin. If you read his books there’s no way you could forget this. He also talks about how hot his cousin is throughout the book
m.imgur.com/r/samharris/T1vUSN3

no not at all. Feel free to read the bill yourself, its not too long and theres no reason to depend on someone elses explanation of it that way

kek, what a tool you are

Sorry, I didn't think you'd get hung up on semantics.

i'm not a native english speaker, so i'm sorry if my sentences are shit. the information i'm trying to convey should come through though

But the fact that he can even speak at any depth on those matters, for good or ill, suggest that he's anything but poorly read. To assert so is blatantly dishonest

There are no good psychologists. Psychology is a load of bull shit.

We must compare ourselves to nature because nature is what we are a part of.

If not compared to other things in nature, what ARE we stupid in comparison to? Specific groups of high end humans? Well of course most people are stupid in comparison, that's the point of that categorization.

His labour theory of value is false.

Reading the greentext and my words sound a little saltier than I meant them. I apologize, I meant to sound excited, not aggressive.

>the information i'm trying to convey should come through though
It does, very well. (I'm the guy you were responding to.)

I need more of the big words in my life.

well then i think you need to make your sentences make more sense if i keep misunderstanding the way you think

so youre giving up your status (?) and food to other people? Why

there is a reason we don't calculate IQ scores with all mammals you fucking retard

Wedont have a full understanding of nature.

Ok, fair enough

In that case your English is quite good, but punctuation is important. For example, I is capitalized, and so is I'm. i and i'm look weird.

it's a good point though. since humans are related to pretty much anything, we could grasp at any number of far-off liveforms to make normative statements about how humans should build their society. why lobsters and not eusocial insects or single cell eukaryotes? it is very easy to find some similarity to a social structure you promote in the animal kingdom, that doesn't mean there is any point to doing it

George Carlin based

fair enough, what i'm trying to say is he is not in any way using whatever he read in an honest manner, since conflating Marxism with Postmodernism is ridiculously stupid/dishonest/whatever

the democracy is where it gets really funny, and depressing

Then you havent seen this short clip he posted on his own channel (may not be his but its a channel with tons of his clips)
youtu.be/RIB05YeMiW8

>gender expression
Fucking retarded. This is hot garbage, and anyone in support of such an unintelligent idea should be put to the cross.

why are your feels hurt by this word?

It is not semantics. You started your argument with the common ancestor nonsense. We are about as far removed from lobsters as we can be.
I don't think you know what "getting hung up on semantics" means by the way. You are just using a phrase you have heard others use but in an inappropriate context.

My sentences are well constructed and I must read yours several times before I can decipher them. If you want to argue articulation then we can, but nobody will convince the other that it isn't the other that's retarded.

No, I'm NOT giving my resources/position to other people. I mean, maybe to my clan when I die, but not to strangers or the government. That's my point. My family has many generations of very hard working and intelligent people, and so I am in a favorable position. Someone looking to take that from me and give it to someone else who has NOT earned it and whose ancestors have NOT earned it is a bastard of a person. This is what the intersectional types are a fan of.

Watched a few, stopped after I noticed the lefty themes

Holy shit. Is that one of those jap medical devices in the back that masturbates a penis to collect semen samples? Those cost around $5000.

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cry harder

consider that many groups did not have the time to accumulate social and material capital as much as you had. black people for instance are only legally equal for about half a century, that is really not a lot of time.

Retarded is low IQ. MOST humans are average IQ. So MOST people are not retarded.
So? We don't have a full understanding of gravity or aerodynamics but we still have airplanes and rockets, do we not? Again, if nature is not your frame of reference, what is humanity retarded in comparison to?

>ted is leftist propaganda
isn't everything to you people?

>MOST humans are average IQ.
because IQ has been defined by humans lmao

TED stuff is very obviously furthering a leftist agenda

for example?

If the out of africa thing is true, blacks had more time than any other race to "accumulate social and material capital" yet they hadn't invented the wheel by the time white men came to drag them forward

well for starters the fact that it's promoted as "cutting edge" when fucking nothing humans think or do is cutting edge

>Retarded is low IQ. MOST humans are average IQ. So MOST people are not retarded.
most humans are stupid, by the same definition. stop masturbating yourself with semantics

facts and reality have a liberal bias, so that upsets him.

there are very specific and material reasons why africa was never the frontier of human progress. for example the harsh temperatures, dryness or the lack of domesticatable animals

and that is leftist somehow?

The shitty trans for kids youtuber got her own ted talk, like for real? they put any left wing garbage on there.

i disagree that you own what your family has earned but its common for people to claim recognition for things they havent done themselves

anyways intersectionality wants to promote everyone into a favorable position ie able to advance their career, make and support a family, and retire, all this time you still havent given me a concrete example of how you had suffered because of this "toxic" ideology bred on campus grounds...do you not want people to have the same good things as you?

Compared to the idea of something better. You want to talk about nature, but you forget that it is natural for people to reach for the stars.
TEDx is leftist propaganda. TED is tight.
Not an argument, you chimp.

Your arguments weak, any behavior scientist understands the correlations between species. He further demonstrated our nervous systems are similar enough that antidepressant work on lobsters. You missed the point and clung to my poorly worded bit on lobsters being a common ancestor.

Get out of the basement, faggot.

what?
It takes a few years to amass enough to be set. Everything beyond that is extra. If black people today worked as hard as black people in 1950, they'd be doing very well for themselves. They too far into the "Whites owe us stuff" mentality and so they consume and consume and earn nothing. The ones who work for themselves deserve the success they get.

As for the unfortunate ones who are just children and whose parents do nothing but consume, these children will find themselves alone as adults. It will be harder for them to have resources because they have to earn it ALL themselves. It's difficult, but whatever they earn they should be able to keep. If they do, they'll be well off soon enough. 70 years is plenty of time for blacks to have progressed. The reason they still live in ghettos is because they don't want to leave them.

yeah it is because leftist ideology is all about "new new new" and doing away with all wholesome/cohesive tradition in favor of an arbitrary, continually recreated zeitgeist

>Not an argument, you chimp.
your only point is semantics. IQ is specifically made so most humans are the average, so of course if you define retarded in relation to IQ most humans are not going to be retarded. the fact you don't get this only reinforced my point about human stupidity

Radical left wing indoctrinated drones get SEETHING when they see, hear, or think about Jordan Peterson. He calls you out on every last one of your fallacies and unmasks you to the world and more importantly to yourselves. Faced with that impotent and contradictory reflection of yourself you immediately face a fight or flight response which sees you expend all your energy trying to take down the man who you see as your biggest threat.

Think about it, if he was as bad/wrong/etc. as you claim him to be then you wouldn't get so up in arms about him and make him your latest cause de jour. Frankly, I think you could stand to learn a little bit about psychology and yourself.

so anything that calls itself cutting edge/ high tech etc is leftist? are witcher 3 graphics leftist?

Such a privileged point of view. Honestly, have you interacted with anyone in the ghetto? Its anonymous we dont have to lie

>are witcher 3 graphics leftist?

technically yes

good to know that Das Kapital is right wing extremism then. i mean it is pretty old

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If it's bias one way or the other I move on. I have a few left values and right values, but Ted is subtlety pushing an agenda.

an enlightetend centrist i see

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>How to talk to transgender people

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>Constantly hear worlds like "leftist, "far right", "liberal" ect...
>Still no idea what people mean by any of these words
>Refuse to learn
>Live happy knowing I'm not wasting my time arguing about that stupid shit

Honestly, just stop. Why does it fucking matter.

Political shit couldn't be more of a brain numbing and meaningless thing to get into.

Yes, to distinguish some humans from other humans. There is no "lmao" for you, just answer my question.
What are the majority of humans retarded in comparison to?
No, because stupid is relative, and most people are according to that neither stupid nor smart. They are simply average. I'm not masturbating, I'm asking you a question that you find yourself unable to answer and it's frustrating you.
No, I do NOT want people to have the same good things as me. I want people to have what they earn. If I am lazy, I want to have bad things for myself. I deserve that. I hold other people to the same standard.
Intersectionality does NOT want to promote everybody in a favorable position. You;ve given yourself away. Again, as I said before, they treat it like a zero sum game. As long as black success is treated as an opponent of white success, call me Calvin Candie.
So humans are stupid compared to what we COULD be?
I have my issues with that statement, but it still has a point. Now at least we seem to be getting somewhere

No matter what my views are there's a meme for it edgemaster.

Again you say being a common ancestor. This is gibberish. You don't know what semantics means. You are definitely Peterson's target audience.

yah I fix houses in "low income areas" for charity organisations. At least I used to. I'm sick of it and I'm moving to the middle of nowhere for build my own house and be a hermit in a week. just quit my job a few weeks ago.

It matters so you can grasp concepts that could be imposed on you by people and media.

I wasnt who you were replying to, but most humans being average is natural. Thats how averages work. You're likely one of those who are below average if you dont even understand how averages work. Fucking chimp.

that's just a guy sharing his personal experience about being trans
where exactly is the propaganda beyond "trans people are people"

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you arguing with the wrong person
The guy you started arguing with responds in groups.

seriously this people are fucking retarded

>old = justified
>lobster societies are comparable to the smartes mammal on earth

I'd like to point out that, under Prohibited Grounds for Discrimination, these ignorant chimps which the bill protects should be arrested for their slander against straight white men.

We divulged from lobsters about 300 million years ago. A common ancestor. What are you so hung up on? Fucking triggered about the semantic bit I see. The entire fucking point about goddamn lobsters is to show hierarchies exist in nature.

>asking for basic human decency is actually leftism
tells you quite a bit about rightwingers, huh

then start a law suit so we can laugh at you

I can understand that. But it still means little to me. Like, the news and media doesn't effect me. I don't watch it. If I do, I don't get worked up about it.

That and I don't listen to retards. Peoples opinions are simply opinions. You can often tell within the first couple minutes of hearing someones opinions on certain topics whether they are worth talking to or not. If someone says some stupid ass shit, then they are most likely only going to hurt my brain further if I try to reason with them.

>TLDR: I don't let retards have an effect on me.

Cope

Thats not his room faggot

what if retards have guns

that he needs to go back 300 million years in order to cheerypick an animal species that uses the specific kind of hierarchy he seeks to justify should tell you quite a bit. why not eusocial insects that live off of altruism?

>seething peterfag

you did not counter his point, you just insulted him

i don't need to argue with people that get triggered over jokes, i laugh at them
>still seething

Put the word divulged into a search engine. You meant diverged but you are too dumb to know the difference.
We did not diverge from them 300 million years ago. Peterson says 350 million years ago. He is wrong too. It was at least 700 million years ago.
You don't know what semantics mean. you repeat gibberish statements even after being corrected on them. You don't know what divulge means.
You are Peterson's target audience. The dumb guy's smart guy.

>TED is tight.
its mental masturbation... there is very little to gain from it, if anything at all

JBP should stick to psychology.

He makes an ass out of himself every time he talks about about anything other than clinical psychology.

that's a fair point. Just pointing it out.

similar to peterson, then

lol nobody responded because nobody has an answer

It's one example of countless relating us to animals. My apologies to say lobsters are a common ancestor, I'll be more literal when in the company of spergs.

People who think they aren't determined by their environment are usually the most suggestible ones.

Dumb shit will happen.

like every academic outside his field, he really needs his credentials in order for anyone to even listen to him. similar to math professors ranting about the crusades, his out-of-field remarks are laughable

>I'm asking you a question that you find yourself unable to answer and it's frustrating you.
what was the question then? i'm frustrated with you being 'average' and not understanding what other user was saying... majority of people are not smart, and you can fucking see it

my point is asking why specifically lobsters? there are plenty of animals (far closer related ones, too) that would suggest the exact opposite kind of social behavior would be "natural", so why is he using lobsters in particular?

i have disproven all freudian and jungian topics with my dissertation on self-deciet

true that

>No, I do NOT want people to have the same good things as m
what did you earn yourself then, and not an ancestor of yours?

I can use Google too. You're so intelligent. I mixed divulge and diverge up big fucking deal. You're literally arguing semantics. Not the point. Chill the fuck out you sensitive twat.

there is another point there and you are conveniently ignoring it

I can agree on that.

i fucking hate people that do that, and there is not much that i hate. but hanging up on semantics and ignoring the main argument intentionally should qualify for gas

You see, Bonobos, which diverged from us only 2 million years ago, actually fuck each other's brains out as a greeting. Of course, the leftist ideologues would deny that because they want to deny nature, but it would be justified and natural for us to use blowjobs as a greeting.

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that was my point when i brought up ted talks.

lol'd

your point?

Im not sure, he probably did cherry pick, but he only needs to demonstrate it occuring outside a social construct once right?

we can't justify human social norms using animals because they are not fucking humans, numbskull

a solid conclusion. I genuinely have no issue with this answer
lol, "what was the question". Ok, here goes again.
If most humans are retarded, and humans are smarter than other animals, then what is our reference for intelligent?
That which I have worked for. Best example is the land I own. It's my land because nobody else wanted it and sold it. I purchased it using resources I acquired by working in construction. I earned this land and so I should keep it and value it. This land gives me opportunity for a garden of food and a house of warmth. I worked hard in construction so I could get this house. Anybody else willing to work hard like I did should have a similar option of buying good things for themselves. I intend to work in the future and buy and make more good things for myself and someday (I hope) for my children and wife.

He’s not even a good welder

stories, just that.

who said we can? anyone that said that is either a troll or retarded. that would mean cannibalism is ok.

be careful dude, that conversation is chock full of gibberish. I don't know what's even being discussed anymore

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>If most humans are retarded, and humans are smarter than other animals, then what is our reference for intelligent?
intelligent means using (i wont say capable for a reason) critical thinking and rational though, something that majority of populous abandoned due to ignorance and convenience. that's what people mean when they say that masses are stupid. you fucking idiot

>implying "good psychologist" is a thing

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he needs to demonstrate if human hierarchies are socially constructed or biologically dictated. humans are wildly different from lobsters, over 700 million years of divergent evolution kinds of different. again, altruism is biologically dictated in bees and other eusocials, and we diverged from those an arbitrary time in the past, too. since we diverged from many animals with very conflicting social structures, we might wanna rethink using one specific animal as justification for human social structures

>that would mean cannibalism is ok

user, I.....

Peterson justifies human dominance hierarchies based on animal behavior

tbh what pisses me off the most is that people distinguish human behavior as different from animal or 'natural' that pisses me of a whole lot.

>Fifty page essay on the Zionist/Lizardmen conspiracy
That's 49 more pages then even the most conscientious left-wing SJW has ever achieved. That's another part of the reason that Peterson gets you all SEETHING, he knows you should clean your room

So what you meant all along is that most humans do not utilize critical thinking? ok
Critical thinking is the objective analysis and evaluation of an issue in order to form a judgment. that's a copy of the definition. So you say most people do not do this?

gr8 b8 m8

hierarchies are important but not because they happen in nature... do you have source for this? he must be trolling since he is not a complete retard

it's not a matter of dominance, he stresses this repeatedly. Maybe if you watched anything of his, you'd know that...

The less aware you are to toxic idiologies the more likely you'll be manipulated. Having good common sense is a start. I don't like to play identity politics either because nothing is black and white. But you need to understand the narratives of the left, used mostly to distract and disorient, and the right, which can be used for nationalist propaganda.

That's cool, how will you support yourself?
What lead to this decision?
Do you have a gf or pets?
Genuinely intersted in what lead to this.

and here we go again with semantics... just because some one wiped their ass this morning doesn't mean they utilize critical thinking... and even that some fail to do. stop being a retard

Ah yes, you would have to be from bongistan. The most cuckolded of all the western nations. A country pulverised over centuries of monarchy rule and then liberated feminists who have been emasculating your country so much that you all either get indoctrinated or slurp on real mens cocks to fill the empty whole inside you where masculinity is supposed to fit.

>rants about britain because someone said m8

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there is a way of having altruistic society. but it take a higher level of intelligence, which majority of population lacks, something that i'm trying to pass through to one of the posters here.

Makes sense, too many variables. But the fact lobsters get upset if they're poorfags is notable.

bees don't, that's also notable.

You’re reaching conclusions he never makes, he never states a single hierarchy that is “good” or should be defended or enforced. He’s not even against getting rid of certain hierarchies, and he’s all for getting rid of tyrannical hierarchies.

The entire lobster analogy was a rebuttal to post-mods (clearly not all but there are many) that all hierarchies are social construction, which is clearly not the case since the most basic animal has hierarchies.

I intend to grow my own food and harvest rainwater, and not be attached to any utilities. Of course, I still need SOME money if I intend to have internet out there and pay land taxes (bullshit taxes). Since I'll need some money, I'll still do construction from time to time. Maybe I'll go and get more certifications. I've always wanted to be a licensed stone mason.
This decision is a result of many things. To list only a few, I like privacy, I like open desert, I like the lax building regulations that come with rural areas, and i like the cheap price of desert land.
I have no GF or pets, and am not currently interested. I love Irish chicks though, maybe I'll visit the Emerald Isle someday. I hear they admire cowboy/western stuff.

No, I am not arguing semantics. This is the second time that you have shown that you do not know what the word semantics means,
I am arguing that you are not very intelligent. I am showing that you are dumb, I am showing that by using the word divulge and semantics you are trying to appear intelligent but by misusing them you expose your idiocy.
My point is that intelligent people will see through the smoke and mirrors that Peterson uses and only dumb people can be impressed by him.
Peterson is the dumb guy's favourite smart guy. He is a charlatan.

Bees have a even more ridged hierarchy. And routinely “punish” lazy or drunk bees.

>But the fact lobsters get upset if they're poorfags is notable
great argument for people concerned about money

>that all hierarchies are social construction
no PoMo claims that. they claim human hierarchies, specifically the ones after we became sendentary are, which is pretty hard to refute

semantics is the meaning of words. Literally every debate is semantics. This whole debate is over something someone said, so OF COURSE I'm talking about semantics. THAT'S THE PREMISE. It's probably run it's course though. I've just realized I wasted a bunch of time arguing on Yea Forums, so I should probably do something else.

Found Sam Harris everyone

that idea, as much as it sounds appealing is literally de-evolution

I agree on the having an awareness to things so you don't get manipulated.

I disagree on understanding the narratives of people who are 'left' or 'right' though. As far as I am concerned, it effects my life just as much as knowing peoples preferred food. It really just doesn't matter. The Governments are gonna do what ever the fuck they want. They ass fuck people like me on a daily basis and there is nothing I can do about it, no matter what my opinion is, how well I understand shit, or how much I complain about something.

Is that true?

Right, but antidepressants on bees makes them suicidal.

Fuck this guy again

and it's built on altruism, not dominating another
they also diverged from humans after the lobster, funnily enough

no, the point of an argument is to discuss the subject not dissect a single word or two and make sure its the correct/applicable word to use in said argument. i like how you didn't even retort to my argument here, basically proving my point.

>agree
>partially agree since he does have a basic grasp of both
>false since he did specify during the hearing the mechanisms that could be used to exploit the bill and how it was based on bullshit
>except zizek agreed with him on several points
>not an analogy, but a a way of explaining continuity in the animal kingdom and the emerging hierarchies from a psychological perspective

You are retarded.

and using them on jellyfish won't do fuckall
what's your point

thy make humans suicidal too.. your point?

Yes, I'm dumb and you're smart. You reached this conclusion because I'm pro Peterson and mixed my words in a post. And because you refused to acknowledge my point and argue minor details instead. Or semantics.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
wrong.
I'll be continuing pursuing interests in cryptography, ecological studies/charity work, and firearms manufacture in a homemade workshop. I'll just do most of it alone and go into town occasionally when I've done something notable.
De evolution is not a real concept.

That’s Frankly untrue, I have personally spoken to PoMos that believe that primitive nomadic societies were social construction. Adam from
College humor is probably the most notable of this group. Granted most PoMos probably don’t have this view.

And no one claims that all hierarchies are because of nature, or that they are even justified if nature has a role in it.

So you think bills act in a vacuum? What about the human rights tribunal? What about the guidelines that were published by the justice department that were conveniently taken down before the hearing (but still retrieved, fortunately)? Are you stupid?

No, this debate is LITERALLY what someone said. The sentence said IS THE SUBJECT. You fucking mong. I'm done.

bullet shrimp too
ocean life is crazy

Killings another one of your species is built on altruism? I have that right?

lol, Yes you are right. You really need to learn what arguing about semantics means. You are too dumb to realise how dumb you are.

>except zizek agreed with him on several points
he claimed to have "red up on marxism" by reading a 19th century activist pamphlet for peasants, not Kapital or any other substantive
work. that's pretty shameful
>false since he did specify during the hearing the mechanisms that could be used to exploit the bill and how it was based on bullshit
all the bill did was give trannies the same protections gays, blacks etc already have when it comes to hiring and government actions. that's it. no pronoun police, no Maoism.

"Justified" in this context is not a thing. Shit either is or it is not. Any moral pretention is useful fiction, often with the pretense of imposition (and half self-serving and half stability seeking).

The lobster point is not about what you think it is. It is about the degree of psychological (and the underlying mechanisms) continuity in the animal kingdom, retard.

Browse pol friend. At least understand why you're getting ass fucked like everyone else.
I'll give you a hint it has to do Israel.

sure, if eliminating one has a higher benefit to the many. altruism is not just being nice to everybody lmao

the answer to everything is not jews, you pathetic retard
/pol/ is just sad sacks of shite looking for excuses why their lives are shit

Yeah, nah. I'm good.

Trust me, I am well aware of the problems in this world. I just know that there is fuck all I can do about it. I don't let it get to me.

Thanks though.

>not a real concept.
no concept is 'real' ..... HAHAHAHA - you fucking idiot. you truly believe your independent 'research' will contribute even slightly to society? if you think you are that smart you must be retarded and might be better off to cast you into exile to minimize resources spent on your sorry ass.

with charity work i agree, continue that as its more contributing to society than majority of jewbs.

I was the user who asked you the question, Good for you user. That sounds like an admirable life/goal and I hope you enjoy yourself out there.

The internet, and money of course, are the two things I would need to be able to live remotely. If I could spin those up at a whim I would live somewhere really remote too.

If you are going to be that remote then wont jobs be hard to find? Or you will have to travel crazy distances to get to them?

Maybe get a doggo to spend some time with out on your ranch. They can be great companions while you are building stuff or shooting or homesteading. Better than people.

how stupid are you? re read what i wrote... if you focusing on language and not what is trying to accomplish you are hindering yourself greatly...

I knew the nazis were altruistic after all

he specifically chooses lobster dominance hierarchies to make his point that hierarchy is inevitable. the altruist societies of eusocial insects are also biologically mandated, and bees for instante diverged from humans ca. 100 million years after the lobster. obviously we aren't all infertile and serve a queen as a hive mind, so referencing long-diverged animals as reasons for human hierarchy is lacking

How ironic, a smart person wouldn't generalize based on such little evidence, or wouldn't boost their ego doing it. You're being literal and think that makes you superior somehow, but in reality youre a wage slave with a ged.

Not an argument

you don't have to be a nazi to realise that some individuals harm the collective, and then remove them. (humans lock them up, altruist animals or barbaric humans kill) bees do pretty much nothing out of egoist interest but only for the hive --> altruism

>seething

Shill harder good goy

>>seething

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what about hierarchy is bad? its necessary and not sure why wold anyone even question it

Also, I did not reach this conclusion because "I'm pro Peterson and mixed my words in a post".
You used a phrase twice that is complete gibberish, the "are a common ancestor" thing, showing that you were talking on a subject you have no knowledge of. Three times now you accused me of arguing about semantics when I have not engaged in that once. You say divulge when you meant to say diverge but didn't know the difference.
These are not the sorts of things intelligent people do. Your level of understanding and intelligence are on display for all to see. The thing is, you are smart enough to realise how dumb you appear.

Your anger at him is misdirected, it stems from an anger or frustration at yourself and lack of your own life goals or acomplishments.

If you learnt enough about spirituality you would know that you don't need to obtain a sense of identity from the things that you do or achieve. That most of those 'achievements' are Social achievements anyway and only really have any value to you because other people say or percieve them to have value. It doesn't really give You value.

Even if there are things that you truly value, they are impermanent anyway, just as you are, so to obtain your identity or self worth from such things becomes a silly notion. If you could reach this understanding you wouldn't need to attack others on Yea Forums for having interests or hobbies outside of what your neuroticism defines as 'useful' and berates you constantly for not living up to.

>humans lock them up
no we don't. some we reward and idolize

there are good and bad hierarchies, nobody is arguing all hierarchy is bad except the most fringiest of anarchists
questioning hierarchy is important to find out which ones are good or bad

Reach some PosMo and feminist literature friend, there’s a world out there for you to discover.

Seething

yeah, porkies sadly still get their way. i'm not saying human society is altruistic, just that removing in whatever way harmful elements to the collective is not contradictory to altruism

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I'm not trying to contribute to "society", I'm trying to contribute to my community.
Yes, the nearest city with enough jobs is a 2 hour drive. Weather is lovely here though, so I intend to camp out of my Jeep often to save time/fuel. It's not a standard way of living, but I don't want standard. Doing anything out of the norm introduces unexpected issues but it's worth it I think.
I don't think I'll get a dog, but maybe I will eventually. If I get my little homestead set up and maintenance is minimal/nonexistent and I can hold onto it for very cheap, I can use it as a home base and go live elsewhere or rent a place in a city and whenever I get fed up with all that, I can go back out to my little haven.

>a smart person wouldn't generalize based on such little evidence
>but in reality youre a wage slave with a ged
did you just generalise based on no evidence?

b-but e-celebs told me they r all evil!!! i won't engage with those ideas, i'm too rational for that

Just the answer to the wars between 1915 until today, the economic crisis's since the great depression, about about a dozen false flags. But keep shilling intentional or not.

how is that relevant to my point about him living 'off grid' as de-evolution? are you saying is spiritual evolution? that doesn't require what he wants to do.

i agree with what you saying, i just don't know why you aiming this at me?

oof, fucking destroyed him.

i mean, rich people acting in their own interest seems far more likely than a nebulous invisible conspiracy, but i'd love to hear any evidence on the jewish cabal
hardmode: no misrepresenting franfurt school or "these people are actually jews" image macros

>applying psychology to politics is bound to fail.

>proceeds to apply psychology to politics

ishygddt

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well fuck me, whats is the argument here then?

that we can't justify human hierarchies based on fucking marine arthropods from the carboniferous era

so why you rejecting your 'de-evolution'?

>Reach some PosMo and feminist literature friend, there’s a world out there for you to discover.
Actually watch a Peterson interview where he critiques the so called 'intellectual' post modernists. You won't, because he tears them a new one, calmly, academically, intelligently, and not a single so called 'post modernist' will debate him on this topic. He has thrown down the gauntlet to anyone, litterally anyone, who wants to pick it up. None do.

Then you come here and tell people to join your cult ideology. Sorry, just because that worked on you because of some MSM television program or uni social justice club got its claws into you, that won't work here. Back to le leddit with you.

no, rich elites in gated communities are EXACTLY what this guy hates. His little peabrain can't understand that though, so he just uses "The Jews" as a placeholder for ALLLLLLL the elitists or fascists or silicon valley nutjobs that make bad decisions that hurt people.

how? its not even remotely related to what i was saying

I don't know what you just said to me.

Yes you stated your concern with giberish and semantics several times now sperg. Why are you so adamant of appearing smart user?

Today's phrase is "cognitive dissonance"

who did he ever epically destroy? i only know off the time he misrepresented derrida in an almost comedic fashion and didn't even attempt to understand foucault, is there anything else?
also even if the did, why not engage with the source material regardless, there might still be some interesting ideas in there regardless?

Depends if I'm wrong. My evidence is my own.

well no we can't but why we need to justify them?

but my ex-wife's divorce lawyer was a fucking kike so of course there is a conspiracy !!1!

because things that are unjustifiable are not worth pursuing?

i just said that your 'exile' is basically de-evolution... you trying to live the lifestyle of your ancestors

Fucking boomer or a kike or both

why do we need to justify anything?

you're awfully mad, did a jew once steal your lunch money in middle school

I don't like racism, but Israel shouldn't be our ally. I also don't agree with North Korean antics, but I don't think we should gas Koreans. Is that more palatable for you sensitive faggots?

No one, because as I said there is litterally no one in that horde of vocal leftists who will debate him on any of those topics. Not one.

Look, he is a fallible guy, and a fair critique of him is that he has become emboldened by no one ever challenging him so sometimes he forgets himself and makes far too broad generalisations about post modernism et al. etc. But there are examples where he has gone into specific details and explained his thesis on all the damage they have done and it's pretty understandable while no one has ever taken him up on his offer to debate him, they wouldn't have a leg to stand on.

>there might still be some interesting ideas in there regardless?
I put your own suggestion back to you. Watch peterson.

No he stole my country and made my peers braindead cucks.

you don't need to be antisemitic to disapprove of zionism you absolute brainlet, you're making sensible criticism of israeli politics impossible with exactly that attitude. still no evidence for any conspiracy

Is china more evolved than the US? than Ireland? it's an awful but advanced place to live. I'd rather be like my ancestors living with Brehon law in ancient Ireland than a hi tech drone serving big brother.
20 year old Irish/American Nationalist. I want practical enemies to go after. Ones that are real and ones that actually cause the problems I have to deal with. I've no time for mysterious boogeymen.

You were demeaning him as not contributing anything to society.

If anything, living outside of cities in a more rural environment with less people is actually what humans have evolved to handle. This mass population is not natural for us. You can see it in the record high depression and suicide rates.

>he stole my country
you own a country? that's epic, where is your palace?

Bias.

>Why are you so adamant of appearing smart user?
You just keep digging the hole deeper. Stick to simple language until you have read a few books. Do you even realise how poor that sentence is?
"Appearing smart" is not a concern of mine. I am smart. Just a fact.
Everything you have written demonstrates that you are not but you appear to want to be hence the inappropriate use of terms you don't understand. This is my point. Peterson appeals to people who want to thought of as smart but aren't.

He probably an arab who fails to realize the ottoman empire only had Israel for a few hundred years and only acquired it by racial conquest before losing the england in the early 1900's, after which england gave it to jews so they'd finally have a homeland for their weird culture and stop crashing on the couches of other nations

so there is nothing about hierarchy that it 'justifiable' that we need to reach to marine biology? what about order that grants pretty much everything we have as modern society? are there people that actually believe advanced societies can exists without some sort of hierarchy?

Then give me those examples, please. Peterson has never engaged with any postmodern criticism of culture etc in an honest manner, always with misrepresentation or conflation with marxism (which is pretty ironic considering what PoMo is all about).
>Watch peterson.
i did, and what i found is an old man misreading philosophy and biology and whining about disney movies. he's a charlatan out for patreon bux and book sales, nothing more. wanna guess why he never became famous as a psychologist and only after going into politics?

>Is china more evolved than the US? than Ireland? it's an awful but advanced place to live. I'd rather be like my ancestors living with Brehon law in ancient Ireland than a hi tech drone serving big brother.
then stop freaking out about it, i never said its 'wrong', fucken eh

>understand Focault

It is undilluted bullshit. And this is an apolitical statement. This fact has been recognized by Noam Chomsky (lefty), Peterson, scientists and philosophers alike.

See philpapers.org/archive/SHATVO-2

He references it for continuity of certain psychological mechanisms regarding status tracking. Also the altruist/selfish axis does not indicate shit about hierarchies being present or not.

I'm unironically highlighting that point. Brainlet. You should know criticizing Israel is antisemetic to the average American nowadays.

>This mass population is not natural for us.
sure its not, evolution doesn't happen in 'natural' environments... its adaptation you mong

You are still ignoring several points. Come back when you watch the entire hearing, which I did. I also read all the documents referenced by Brown´s legal analysis. Stop being intentionally obtuse.

i'm not saying there are no reasons for having hierarchy, i'm saying lobsters are an awful justification. and to reiterate, everything needs a justification

I'm not freaking out, I barely care. Stop projecting.
literally what?

btw i simply said that he will be de-evolving to which he responded with some 'contribution' arguments and i found majority of hem being weak.... but he detoured the fucking subject prob cuz he felt hurt, as de-evolution has a negative vibe to it.

Wait till your brain developes fully, it's gonna be hard to determine enemies until then, may take an understanding of history too.

yes, there are definitely intelligent criticisms of foucault, i'm saying peterson is not one of them because he relies on so much misrepresentation and marxism scaremongering whenever he engages with PoMo

But he does not use it as a justification for human hierarchy, but rather to show continuity in the animal kingdom regarding status tracking mechanisms. It is not a normative statement by itself.

yes you were freaking out when i said de-evolution... and what- evolution. do you have a mental disorder, cuz you making me feel bad now

Dude no evidence? Why do we even support Israel if not for the inside connections from every corporation including our banking system. Like wtf

It is less misrepresentation and more scaremongering. Misrepresenting Focault is pretty much what his shit is desgined to lead to, as shown in the paper I shared...literally with a formal logic approach.

>everything needs a justification
some things are obviously justifiable. i though hierarchy is one... do we need to justify sewage systems next/