Just a friendly reminder that public healthcare is not socialist

Also Bismarck North Dakota

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You what now?

how about no mutt

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>gets heart attack
>goes bankrupt

Yes it is, don't be an idiot.
Read more history.

No it is

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>doesn’t pay medical bills due to bankruptcy
>hospital has to raise rates to account

>social programs within a capitalist economy are actually socialism
>read more history

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America is already a socialist country and both parties are ok with that. So everyone needs to calm down

>America is already a socialist country
whatever you're smoking i want sum

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So farm subsidies aren’t socialist? Market interference isn’t socialist? Price controls aren’t socialist? The CFTC, FERC, FMC, UNICOR and other Federal Corporations aren’t socialist?

your trolling right?

>So farm subsidies aren’t socialist
no, not in the slightest
>Market interference isn’t socialist?
gubbmint doing stuff is not socialist, it's pretty standard neoliberalism
>Price controls aren’t socialist?
no
> CFTC, FERC, FMC, UNICOR and other Federal Corporations aren’t socialist?
no

it was close, but you cant just say flat out no to everything we know is the specific cause of annoyance.
you will get there one day, bait bro

You’re wrong. The government interfering in the market to control prices and control supply regardless of demand is socialist. Sorry. It’s just a fact. And government corporations are indeed socialist .

no, the government interfering with markets in order to perpetuate the markets is neoliberalism
any socialist would laugh at you if you say "hey guise how bout we finance roads with taxes vive la revolucion!!!"

Subsidies to farms-not socialist
Subsidies for healthcare-socialist

Government corporations that control commodities-not socialist

Government corporation that controls health insurance-socialist

Great logic

you have no idea what socialism is

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Interference in markets doesn’t mean creating roads. It means controlling prices on any commodity sold in this country from corn to pork to cotton etc.

Price controls and financing failing industries in order to protect the workers is socialism

I would actually say you don’t. See we both can do it

so roads couldn't be privatised, we need the government to forcibly steal money from people to make them? spoken like a true socialist

if you think THE capitalist country on planet earth is socialist, good riddance dude

Bring back the Kaiser.

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wilhelm the second was an idiot with an inferiority complex
made by Wilhelm I gang

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Do you pay for healthcare now? Guess what? You're already paying for it!

I

I'm sure that you do.

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>hitler was a socialist
go away crowder

kek

>national socialist
>not socialist
okay mutt

by the way, crowder is a zionist cocksucker so don't compare me to him

Which still means it has its roots in socaism.

>far right ethnonationalist
>not a socialist
fixed it brainlet

and surgeons have roots in cannibalism because both cut humans open

>far right
KEK

so hitler was not a rightwinger? what???

No, he was not a right winger and he was not a left winger.

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then what was he, a moose?

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>judenpedia
KEK
Here you, try and read it in one go. I know that it will be hard for you but try your best.

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by the way, fascim and national socialism are two separate ideologies that share some similarities.

>judenpedia
if you dismiss anything disagreeing with your crackpottery as jews there is no point in talking to you

Is this from PragerU?

National Socialism is Fascism + JQ

Wikipedia is plainly wrong. Simple as.
Wrong.

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>Fascism is a very sensible economic and social ideology
Never trust a fascist on what facism is, facists lie whenever it benefits them

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>Never trust a fascist on what facism is, facists lie whenever it benefits them
if you dismiss anything disagreeing with your crackpottery as lies there is no point in talking to you

>Actually, fascism is a just a simple question: what's best for our nation?
That is the most basic and reductionist question that every political ideology has asked. Try again, tiki torcher.

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Here's to 1870's healthcare

very smart of you, cleetus
either way, stating an opinion about the ideology in question so openly shows quite a fuckload of bias from the writer, which makes it not a very reliable article

>Fascism just asks if X is good for the nation
so all other political ideologies don't give a shit about an action being beneficial? or is actually everything facist?

>implying im an amerimutt
keep guessing faggots kek
So the writer of that article is biased, but the wikipedia and whatever you post is bias-free and fully reliable? typical golems, no point in arguing with retards.

Most political ideologies don't give a fuck about the nation and the people. Most political ideologies are all about filling up your own pockets. All liberal ideologies (communism, social democracy, conservatism, etc.) are all like that.

>So the writer of that article is biased, but the wikipedia and whatever you post is bias-free and fully reliable? typical golems, no point in arguing with retards
wikipedia does not openly state any bias as far as i'm aware, your article does
if wikipedia is in any way biased, please demonstrate so
hardmode: without saying jews

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>communism = liberalism = conservatism = social democracy
>fascism is just about doing the best for the nation
we're hitting levels of reductionism that shouldn't even be possible

Just a friendly reminder that it doesnt matter.
I--big govt-------------------------------small govt--I
Dems, reps, communists (socialists), socialists, fascists are all on the same end of the spectrum.

big govt vs small govt is the stupidest dichotomy you can use to arrange ideologies, i wonder why nobody except right wing ideologues uses it

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Made by AnSyn gang

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Wikipedia says fascism is "far-right" when it clearly is not, fascism is not conservative, it does not enforce the status quo like conservatism does and it rejects pure capitalism. Showing that the article is flawed and misinforming.

When "both parties" in the US have functionally identical agendas, putting them on opposite ends of any spectrum makes less sense than grouping them together.

I think constitutionally restrained federal government subservient to state legislatures was there first.. I'm not sure though.

>it does not enforce the status quo like conservatism does
exactly, it goes even further and chases after an idealized version of the past, for the nazis for example it was the teutonic tribes of ancient germany. for italian fascists it was the roman empire
if conservatism is tradionalist, fascism is that but even more
monarchists are also right wing, and they don't want capitalism, obviously. there are more elements to being on the right than just capitalism. Nationalism, traditionalism and militarism for instance, also religiosity

im not arguing that dems and reps are not virtually identical, i'm saying that big govt small govt is a dumb way of organizing ideologies alone, politics is FAR more complex than a 1 dimensional graph allows
if we do it your way, ancoms, primitivists and ancaps are on the same end despite being wildly different

So the conservatives of the modern era are constantly pushing the country to the "right?"
How has the US been sliding with perpetual gradualism towards the "left" for over 100 years then? It's almost like regardless of "which party" is "in power", we get more of the same. Almost. I'm sure it's all coincidence

>if conservatism is tradionalist
It's not. It's conservative, it supports gradual change. Traditionalism adheres to, you guessed it, tradition.
Fascism is a progressive ideology considering it supports radical reforms in favour of the advancement of human condition.

how does anything you're saying relate to my point about what right wing means and how fascists are on the right?

Authoritarianism of any flavor is on the "left" and is antithetical to individual liberty. Of course it's more complicated than one graph can portray, but putting dems and reps on different ends of any spectrum seems disingenuous. The partisan rhetoric is the only thing that separates them. Reinforcing any perceived difference beyond propaganda is just perpetuating a lie.

>Fascism is a progressive ideology considering it supports radical reforms
not anything radical is progressive, fascists are socially extremely regressive and want to go back to an idealized past: nuclear family, racial unity etc
>favour of the advancement of human condition
for the dictator and his party, the rest suffers an authoritarian nightmare

>Authoritarianism of any flavor is on the "left" and is antithetical to individual liberty
wrong, was pinochets military dictatorship left wing? was Kaiser Wilhelm II a left winger?
>Of course it's more complicated than one graph can portray, but putting dems and reps on different ends of any spectrum seems disingenuous. The partisan rhetoric is the only thing that separates them. Reinforcing any perceived difference beyond propaganda is just perpetuating a lie.
to quote myself: "im not arguing that dems and reps are not virtually identical"

>socially extremely regressive
How is promoting the nuclear family and racial unity "extremely regressive"? I'm pretty sure the nuclear family was the standard back then, still is today so I don't know how is that regressive in the slightest. Racial unity was never proposed before so how is that regressive?
>for the dictator and his party, the rest suffers an authoritarian nightmare
Oh right, free healthcare, free money for every new child, cheaper housing, guaranteed jobs, government funded holidays, high health and safety standards in the workplace. Bloody monsters, fiends the whole lot of them.