Is this the fist punk band?
Is this the fist punk band?
Logan Fisher
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Gavin Perez
*first
Dylan Cruz
The shaggs is the first punk band
Carter White
I’d say the doors were, no one screamed on tracks and did crazy shit on stage before Morrison did, I remember iggy went to a doors show when he was young and totally blew his mind.. He was heavily influenced by the doors
Aaron Butler
Technically yes, although the MC5 might count as well.
Caleb Cruz
Iggy is a mad man but no not the first
Camden Adams
Gavin Taylor
Blink 182 was the first punk band
Ryder Hall
>He was heavily influenced by the doors
Of course he was, but I'm curious about that. Iggy-Iggy-Lou.
Hudson Mitchell
nope, these guys are:
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>b-b-but they're niggers!
get over it
Nathaniel Baker
yes.
the sonics, MC5, VU, other shit. Including the Doors, which influenced iggy pop. But yes.
Also this:
Elijah Sanchez
>fist punk band
>fist
lulz
Henry Sanchez
Doors were way too technically adept and complex to be punk; punk is simplicity.
Alexander Rivera
Get better music taste, faggot
Asher Brown
no u
William Cooper
Ramones
Christian Clark
lol no
Leo Thomas
Sex pistols
Jeremiah Sullivan
Kek.
Nathan Stewart
you guys are idiots
Isaac Rodriguez
Good band, but they aren't the fist punk band.
Jaxon Reed
yez
David Lopez
Camden Brooks
Isaiah Rogers
Niggas never heard of the germs
Caleb Cook
Cameron Perry
tps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80BN9xWkRsQ
Aaron Carter
the beach boys were the first
Camden Myers
Mason Garcia
the Cuck Boys?
Kayden Powell
Nicholas Stewart
Xavier Clark
Easton Martinez
That documentary was dumb and sorry but niggers can’t be punk. Just no
Jacob Butler
Grayson Cook
Jacob Myers
Robert Diaz
Camden Parker
Always honor GG
Robert Gonzalez
Owen Torres
\heil/
Joshua Myers
Elijah Diaz
Michael Howard
James King
No.
Count Five
William Price
Dominic Powell
Daniel Evans
Robert Butler
Elijah Roberts
proof?
Wyatt Davis
Asher Scott
They came from Michigan and cited The Stooges as an influence.
Fuck off back to your Blacked porn, cuck.
Landon Rodriguez
Elijah Cox
James Russell
William Barnes
Colton Gutierrez
Isaac Ramirez
Isaiah Long
Landon Cooper
Wyatt Ross
Hunter Moore
Parker Ortiz
Owen Gutierrez
Nathaniel Fisher
Joshua Wright
Benjamin Butler
Nolan Wood
John Torres
los saicos was the first punk band, coming out of Peru, from 1961-1963
Ian Bennett
Thomas Sullivan
Aiden Gomez
lie!
they played polka music
Kevin Rivera
Punk rock is gay. We get it, down with the system, ppl suck. Got anything deeper?
Leo Hill
According to their own documentary, Los Saicos, from Lima, Peru was the first, but they are pre-dated by a band known as
The Who
Wyatt Martin
Aiden Johnson
Landon Cooper
Alexander Rodriguez
Jacob Campbell
Hudson Cooper
Connor Gomez
Jacob Williams
Asher Turner
Jackson Davis
Christian Lewis
Asher Myers
Grayson Robinson
LOL...this is the whitest shit ever written on the internet.
Hudson Robinson
Wyatt Fisher
Jayden Sanchez
Lucas Gray
Elijah Williams
Ian Roberts
woah.. powerful
William Allen
Hasil Adkins
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Christopher Collins
Logan Cook
Jackson Price
Adrian Scott
Liam Cooper
>punk bands cannot have influences
>cuckcuckcuckcuckcuck
gtfo newfag
Adrian Anderson
Alexander Torres
>niggers can’t be punk
go tell a punk nigger that, report back here.
Bentley Perez
Landon Wood
Nathaniel Martinez
>punk bands cannot have influences
That is in the top ten stupidest things I've ever heard
Brandon Anderson
Carter Powell
no
Ayden Evans
top k3ks
nofx was the 1st
Lincoln Rodriguez
Absolute brainlet. Learn to read, retard.
Grayson Wright
Brayden Reed
What's this?
Lincoln Perry
Logan Morales
OP crying when she found out the Stooges didn't invent punk.
Jacob Hall
Dominic Taylor
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Isaiah Robinson
Who shoot all these? Like penthouse or something
Brody Peterson
No. The sonics from Tacoma WA
Liam Adams
Pretty easy to argue that Malcolm McLaren essentially invented the idea of punk by commercializing what he saw managing the New York Dolls in early to mid 70s NYC, inventing the Sex Pistols and essentially setting off a major wave of punk bands in the UK that defined people's concept of the genre.
Most of the bands in the US who people consider early punk bands were just garage bands carrying on a tradition from the 60s with the exception of maybe the Ramones, who sort of got to the direction punk was ultimately headed arguably first.
Leo Scott
Jonathan Brown
Connor Roberts
The Sonics were a garage rock band.
Angel Morales
Grayson Ward
Kevin Butler
>don't know what greentext is
I'm talking to summerfags
Mason Harris
Benjamin Wilson
I'm going to educate myself, I have no idea who Terry even is
Levi Gomez
Christopher Long
Uncle is love
he is G0D
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Adam Long
Owen Long
Lucas Clark
In that they were talentless and relied on outrage for press?
Adam Brooks
>No. The sonics from Tacoma WA
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Dominic Clark
ur gai terriphag
Ryan Ramirez
it's prolly Terry himself desperately trying to stay relevant
Jose Brown
how so?
James Cruz
Terry's too busy trying to relaunch his brand by making everyone forget he started it.
Carson Adams
samenog
Carter Peterson
What a degenerate. And this guy thinks he's any better than homos or transgenders in the pride parades.
Hudson Williams
Charles Carter
how is stepping on your uncut nonkike tip/4skin, "degenerate"????
Brandon Ortiz
Terry is a Jewish American degenerate pornographer and pedophile.
Jordan Evans
>mental illness is entertainment
Hand out some guitars and a microphone at the psych ward and you can see the same thing.
Isaac Robinson
>pedophile
how so...proof?
Charles Rivera
A couple of Daniel Johnston's albums are pretty good.
Angel Harris
>Jewish
100% pure Aryan blood pumping through them cock veins!!!!
Carson Carter
He's just trying to shock people and be offensive. It's not intelligent.
Exact same as the trannies waving their dicks around in the parades. Trying to make Christians angry and gross them out. Exact same.
Parker Sanders
The KKK took them niggers out to die
When the black meat's burnin' I hope he's gonna die
Die when you die when you die you're gonna die
You got cancer so go fuckin' die
If you got AIDS spread it around and take some lives
Die when you die when you die you're gonna die
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Robert Carter
How many chromosomes were you born with retard? Please tell me how they sound like polka. Please.
Jack Rodriguez
The Cramps @ Napa State Mental Hospital 1978
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Hudson Flores
The MC-5 invented punk.
The Sonics and the Kinks were close though.
Leo Walker
Nobody invented punk retard, if you wanna see the people who had early punk elements look at Los Saicos, Link wray, and Elvis. These are all way before MC5 came around. You can probably say they were the first American punk band, but then you gotta consider the stooges and the New York dolls.
Brody Walker
>Richardson was born in New York City, the son of Norma Kessler, an actress, and Bob Richardson, a fashion photographer who struggled with schizophrenia and drug abuse.[6] Richardson's father was Irish Catholic and his mother is Jewish.
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A filthy kike.
Landon Howard
Good shit user
Noah Phillips
these dudes were the true 1st punx:
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Matthew Allen
Were The Velvet Underground not before the stooges?
Grayson Sanchez
>The MC-5 invented punk.
>The Sonics and the Kinks were close though.
fuck that...these fags invented punk!
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Blake Russell
fake jew news!
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David Thomas
>He's just trying to shock people and be offensive. It's not intelligent.
-A Conversation Between Two Worlds-
by Gavin Mclnnes and Olivier Zahm
No art book would be complete without an analysis of the work by an erudite art critic. Since Terry Richardson is unique in his ability to take high art to jaded teenagers while simultaneously forcing the fashion and art elite to appreciate the dirtiest shit you’ve ever seen, we selected critics to represent both sides of the Richardson enigma.
In this corner we have the irreverent and retarded Gavin Mclnnes of New York’s Vice Magazine. His cultural opponent is the sophisticated Parisian editor of Purple Magazine, Olivier Zahm. Can a conversation between these two learned academics help us understand the genius that is Terry Richardson? Read and decide.
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Gavin: One of my favorite things about Terry’s photos is the imperfections. I like seeing a zit on a girl’s ass. I think everyone does. It reminds me of that Thomas Jefferson quote, “There is not a truth existing which I fear, or would want unknown to the whole world.”
Olivier: Because Terry is shooting in an instinctive, immediate, almost physical way, he catches the smallest detail as a force, as a proof that you cannot control life. His pictures demonstrate how life and desire and sex are stronger than the typical visual construction the fashion industry insists on. The fact that he is working for this very industry adds another crucial layer. The imperfections in his photographs help take down the standard of glamour and high fashion. But more than imperfections, to me, one of my favorite things in his photos is the perfection of the frame: he is cutting the reality in a sharp, definitive, brilliant line, extracting the moment and movement of life from its vital flux. This is brilliant and unique. No other photographer is sharper in this sense.
Nathaniel Jenkins
Gavin: I never thought of the framing thing. The way he’ll zoom in on a pair of tits so close you can see there’s kind of some hairs on them. I was interviewed about him for one of these corny liberal modern sex shows and they were implying that Terry was a feminist because he was making “ugly” beautiful. l had to clarify that most of these women are still total fucking knockouts.
This isn’t some lesbian anarchist collective. They’re still the same supermodels that are on every other page of Vogue, only here, they’re making coffee with rubber boots on, or putting a tit on a watermelon. ln a way thats more subversive because you never see people like this portrayed so honestly. So yeah, you get Dennis Hopper with no blemishes removed, and then, on top of that, he has this weird close up that drives home how unusual the shot is even more. lt’s a double whammy…
Olivier: Let’s be honest. Terry’s pictures are definitely not feminist. They are as politically “incorrect” as pictures get. He is not glamorizing women’s power, beauty or strength. He is more portraying female beauty from a male perspective. Instead of trying to celebrate femininity they are focusing on the use of masculinity (his own subjective view of women) within fashion iconography.
Gavin: Most of the critics that hate him (I’m picturing sexless, lonely, thirty-something women with sandals) say hes just fucking girls, but with a camera in his hand.
Asher Rivera
Olivier: I have heard women say Terry’s work is just an expression of the typical male obsession for sex and a celebration of the camera as an extension of his phallus, but this is a very reductive definition of his work.
First, his pictures are a form of visual humor. Second, he is always sharing real emotion with his model. They are not objects or sexual props. The photos aren’t even about that. They are an experiment, an examination of the interaction between a photographer and his models in this age of media, fashion, self-obsession and narcissistic paranoia. He keeps pushing these dialectic structures (man/woman, photographer/model,
phallic/non-phallic) as far as he can until the difference between “art” and “fashion” becomes totally blurred.
You don’t know what is real and what is constructed. When the critics make it a competition and become obsessed with choosing the winner (the photographer or the model) they make it so ideological it becomes uninteresting. Terry’s experimentation is about subverting this dual structure and documenting an intimate relationship with the model. Where can he take it? Where can he take it today? What are the limits of the game? What will the viewers call fashion and what will they call art? Will they reject the images entirely and censor him? That is the experiment.
Gavin: It’s also reductive to assume it’s all about shock value. I remember when the Sex Pistols were on Bill Grundy (host of Thames Today, a London television show of the 1970s) and he accused them of swearing just to shock people. They pointed out that this is the way they talk every day. There’s no premeditation about it. They were just being honest.
Daniel Reyes
>how so?
so gai
Lincoln Thomas
Olivier: That is a crucial element of this whole thing. His pictures are totally honest. They don’t hide anything. They don’t pretend to be what they are not. In this sense they are a political statement too. It’s not pornographic because it reveals how the rest of photography today is pornographic. By having these images in a commercial context they act as a Trojan horse that transcends the original format. They sneak the viewer a moment of truth.
Gavin: When I look at art I don’t give a shit about the artist’s lifestyle but Terry is an exception to that. The whole dichotomy of lowbrow and high art comes from the ups and downs of his fucked up past.
Half his life is wealthy snobberdom. Hes the son of a fashion photographer and was born in New York but moved to Paris at an early age. It was all celebrities and travel and art until his parents’ marriage exploded after his father had an affair with a 17-year-old Anjelica Huston.
The other half of his life was about being dirt poor and playing in esoteric punk bands, getting addicted to drugs with no family around to care. It’s a weird combination of homeless orphan and uptown rich kid that you rarely see in an artist. Is he where he is today because of luck or was it his destiny?
Olivier: It’s a hard question to answer. Sometimes the images are light and have no purpose other than to amuse. Sometimes they are profound and portray love as a fissure of pain and murder. He is at once a careless street kid and a misanthropic Lacanien. They float in the limbo of rapport and are essentially a documentation of the gap between person and portrait. ls it hatred or an irrepressible jouissance? I don’t know.
Nolan Foster
>it's prolly Terry himself desperately trying to stay relevant
ain't even tryna deniyana
Liam Jackson
u mad terry? u mad
Jace Phillips
Olivier: Pornography is the way sex is commercialized by a repressive machine in an isolated ghetto of pictures (on the net, in magazines, films, etc.). Pornography is an industry of repression, a collective enterprise of profit. It’s a visual industry which kidnaps sex as a product for frustrated men.
Terry is actually working against pornography because he is reintroducing desire, seduction and playful sexuality, in real life, in real time, in the studio. He is photographing sex as a real interaction between him and his model. He is not playing the scenario of sexual pornographic control and alienation. He is part of the game. We can see one arm of Terry with his watch, one hand, sometimes his body, sometimes his penis, etc. He refuses the stereotypical function of the porn picture. By placing himself in the picture he is suppressing the illusion of domination and joining the frame. It should be noted however that Terry is not trying to demystify sexuality. He’s just lightening up the whole subject and creating a more equal rapport between photographer and model. A photographer going in front of the camera is not enough, just like the factory owner from the Pasolini film ‘Theorem’ deciding to join the workers is not enough. What is required is a sacrifice like in every film of Pasolini. A sacrifice of the artist who knows that he must sacrifice himself to the system, the fashion system, the pornographic system. The artist must face it with no fear.
Pornography is not only fake, stupid and dangerous, it does not exist. It’s a pure construction, an illusion. Terry’s pictures are the opposite of that. They are deconstructing this faux veneer. That is why it’s so infuriating to hear the press call his work “porn chic” or “porn glamour”.
Gavin: Yeah.
Gavin Ortiz
oops:
Gavin: I just like laughing at poo and fantasizing about fucking the hot girls. It’s the only kind of porn I can enjoy these days.
Olivier: But Terry’s pictures are never pornographic.
Gavin: Oh.
Hudson Ward
no jello for moi
Blake Hernandez
where the fuck do you think we a-
Nevermind, I forgot that this place is infested with teen spics and mutts in recent times.
Ryan Parker
'Terry always did his own thing,' says Stephen Male, recalling those early days. 'I remember when the contact sheets came in for the Levi's shoot we did, every single one would feature a photograph of the model with her top off. I remember thinking, "How did he do that?" I mean, it wasn't really what was required for the shoot. Then it became Terry's thing. It seems almost quaint and old-fashioned now that we'd find it questionable. But that's fashion for you. Once somebody pushes the envelope, it doesn't take long for taboo images to become acceptable. Plus, fashion needs people like Terry; it needs to feel it has an edge all the time.' Terry, unsurprisingly, concurs. 'Hell, somebody's gotta come up once in a while and say bollocks to all that mainstream, glamour stuff.'
"Soon, the shoots got wilder, and often Terry's assistants, Seth and Keiji, had to be on hand to take the actual pictures. 'I always say I make pictures rather than take pictures,' explains Terry."
“The goal is to get the best image possible, and if that means that somebody standing off to the side gets a more candid shot than me, then I’m all for it,” Richardson laughs. “Which doesn’t always make my clients happy if I’m working on a job, but the way I see it, it really doesn’t matter who is actually pressing the shutter, because they’re my images. It’s a picture that I’ve created. I don’t work off lights and angles; I work off emotions. A mood that I create.”
Cooper Johnson
Like what? What do you personally consider to be good music?
Jonathan Jones
Leo Butler
Not even the first punk band in Michigan
Wyatt Robinson
>Good shit user
The Cramps has so many crazy bootlegs!
even this 1993 gig they were still strong as hell:
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Robert Martin
Austin Davis
I just searched the thread for Richard Hell, saw no results, and concluded that you're all gay. Sex Pistols were explicitly a Richard Hell ripoff.
How punk was Richard Hell? His junkie stripper girlfriend left him and he got so pissed off that he went at his wardrobe with scissors and a knife. Problem, because he still needed to go out, and heroin is expensive, so he just fastened his clothes back together with safety pins and whatever he could find so he could still go out, thus starting a trend.
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Jose Carter
>. Trying to make Christians angry and gross them out.
christcucks are the worst....can you believe that sandnigger Roosh V is now a bible-fag.....he will never undo his past!
Pagan viking 4 life!
Owen Hernandez
Zachary Reed
Nathan Butler
Shit, I forgot Love Comes in Spurts.
Nicholas Morris
Charles Robinson
Eli Ross
Actually the first punk band is the Ramones as everyone prior to them is considered garage bands, garage rock, rock or protopunk.
But if you want to get really technical the first is Link Wray & His Ray Men
Zachary Smith
Hunter Clark
Jacob Morgan
Ayden Ward
Christian Moore
Jaxson Cook
Jeremiah Rogers
New York Dolls were the first punk band to not be considered garage or protopunk.
Christian Powell
Nolan Bennett
Isaac Morris
Benjamin Reyes
one of the dumbest things ive read in a while what about bad brains you fucking moron
Justin Garcia
Christian Bell
Jayden Russell
Blake Young
Aiden Lewis
Christopher Wood
i agree that the doors arent punk, but what about bands like black flag and minutemen? undeniably punk but very complex
Kayden Martinez
Xavier Fisher
Jason Clark
Joseph Thomas
Nope
Zachary Hall
Andrew Clark
Brayden Edwards
Colton Roberts
Julian Williams
Isaac Reed
Justin Ross
Zachary Lee
Carter Gutierrez
Adrian Jenkins
Camden Barnes
Cameron Rogers
If you enjoy early punk and garage rock, you must check out Little Steven’s Underground Garage radio show.......it’s really awesome.....stuff from the beginning all the way to now.
Ryder Davis
Jack Gomez
Justin Hall
William Peterson
LOL...the Kinks...come on man.
Charles Jones
Chase Evans
Andrew Long
A lot of people classify the Dolls as glam.
Luis Watson
They probably invented glam, but at the time it was just punk.....it was an alternative with a brash rock song
Kayden Lewis
Boyd Rice + Whitehouse + Throbbing Gristle are the only true punks!
Jack Collins
LOL...no.
The Brits invented glam and McLaren exported it to America when he managed the Dolls. Then he saw how American garage rock had evolved in NYC and brought it back to the UK to start punk.
James Long
Andrew Moore
SNOT WAS THE VERY VERY FIRST PUNK BAND EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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David Wilson
>Is this the fist punk band?
no it was Elvis ...or Sum41
Bentley Mitchell
Rancid and Green Day were the 1st USA punks
Caleb Bennett
Iggy pulled some hot pussy back in his day!
William Ramirez
that 1 fag was crap on joe rogain
Wyatt Gomez
oh jesus fucking christ it's this fucked off nigger again. you're worse than the softly slidding creamy dreamy spam
Jack Rogers
neck or flip like Etika you faggot Andy spammer
Jace Lopez
eat mah period
Christian Cooper
slide my logs down your mum's cheeks
Anthony Collins
celin deon
Josiah Lopez
nope it was frank sinatra
Lincoln Phillips
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Charles Ward
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Nolan Smith
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Ayden Howard
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William Sanders
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Jayden Gonzalez
This is a white site, Tyrone. Get your nigger ass the fuck out of here.