I have a genuine inquiry to those who live in the Portland Oregon area and have experience with the riots that seem to...

I have a genuine inquiry to those who live in the Portland Oregon area and have experience with the riots that seem to regularly take place in that area involving ANTIFA. I see more and more vides of rioters attacking people and property, over and over, with no action by police or other citizens, and this is alien to me.

I'm not from there. In Texas, nothing that's depicted on those videos would exist for longer than an hour, and would be quashed mercilessly. The reckless destruction of property, attacks on innocent bystanders, blocking major highways, etc, would all be met with a swift response by the police, and absent them, the people. There would be a gun behind every blade of grass, and someone in fear for their immediate safety, waiting for ANTIFA to do something stupid, so they can end their rioting that instant.

That's how it should be, and I'm at a loss as to why there is no response in Portland. Is there no self-defense in Portalnd? Because in Texas, if a father with his daugther was surrounded by an angry mob attacking them both, the law is clear that he, her, or anyone standing by would be acting in self defense, to literally mow down every single attacker there.

So, what's the deal in Portland? preferably from someone there, and not someone like me who is looking in from the outside with incredulity. Why does this stand there? What's wrong with the people there? This is alien to me, and inconceivable. Neither the people, nor the government agents or agencies of Portland, Multnomah County, Oregon state police seem to do anything.

So, tldr: what's the deal with all that?

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You ever been to Portland? That city is fucking gay, dude. I would know. I live in California.

So if a bunch of people traveled from other states to Texas with the express intent to cause violence, spread hate, and waste local resources, you'd just let them?

No, I really don't know anything about Portland except that they are very liberal left-leaning like many places in the West Coast, but I would expect even a bastion of degeneracy to maintain self-defense as a right.

That stuff never happens here because it could not. Those people would be throwing their lives away here. So why are they sustained there? Is the government of the City of Portalnd literally harboring terrorists? If Portalnd was in another country for example, talking all this anti-american sentiment, and attacking american citizens openly, the US would drop bombs on their city. In Portland it seems they are free to do as they wish, even open violence.

Again, I don't understand. Can someone explain this dichotomy? I get the memes right? But unless these people are less than human, how can the average citizen not respond with force? why hasn't any of the people getting shanked, concussed, knocked uncocnsicous, etc. defended themselves?

Portland’s mayor supports antifa. His son is an active member, so the mayor bails out his son and his friends.

No, at best they'd be arrested. Likely, if they conducted themselvse like Antifa in portland, and freely enacted violence here, there would probably be a lot of officers on paid administrative leave that week, and an end to antifa in Texas.

That's why I don't understand the lack of response in Portland.

I'm not sure where you get the impression that there are widespread attacks on innocent people, and that no one gets arrested.

IF this is true, then why doesn't the federal or state law enforcement intervene? That would essentially make it an organized crime.

so again, why is there no response?

There's videos every day of Antifa members attacking people violently, and countless news stories covering it.

Every day there's some new story and video of someone badly injured. Just today I saw a video of the antifa mob attacking a little girl and her dad. It simply wouldn't stand here.

The Portland PD communicates with the hate groups and is forced to protect them. But probably not anymore after the video leaked of the Proud Boys admitting their only goal is to incite and waste city resources.

ANTIFA is well recognized as a fascist hate group by literally everyone on the planet except for ANTIFA.

There's a bunch of LARPing assholes from both sides attacking each other and playing political street theater. Antifa is mostly just an alt-right boogeyman.

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Oregon fag here.
Probably has more to do with any sort of police activity being met with harsh criticism and actual enforcement violating rights.
Right to free speech. Violence is always going to be there, but as far as the citizenry goes, we don't tolerate it. Blah blah blah

boogeymen don't exist. People dressed in black masks attacking people they disagree with, openly on the street is very real. It doesn't matter what you call them, they call themselves antifa.

My question is why hasn't the government, whether city, county, state, or federal, quashed this terrorist activity?

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The same reason they can't quash Proud Boys out to earn their 4th Degree. You can't trample everyone's constitutional rights because of a few stupid asshole.

RIGHT
However, you CAN trample on the rights of everyone of the attackers. There might be a thousand people in the "protest" if there's 40 of them attacking people, then everyone of the attackers should be trampled on, right?

Yet, I see people getting attacked with deadly weapons, getting grotesque injuries from these people, and they just disappear into the crowd, protected by the "moderate" protestors.

None of that would stand in Texas, for example, or China, or anywhere with real rule of law. I don't give a shit about someone spouting bullshit ideology, but regardless of ideology if they attack and physically injure innocent people, they are a real problem that needs to be resolved, don't you think?

you get paid for this?

Half of the people in Antifa are actually agent provocatures bent on giving Trump resisters a bad name. Oldest play in the fucking book. Ask Segretti or Haldeman.

I live in Oregon, Portland is a cesspool filled with limp-wristed, feckless libtards and rampaging street trash. The mayor is a fag antifa sympathizer, and the cops are too cowardly to break away and do what needs to be done to stop this shit for fear of losing their pensions. There is essentially no one decent in that city to stand up to this shit, they've all fled years ago and live outside these leftist trash pits in Oregon.

That's fine and well within their rights, but I'm talking about ANTIFA that are macing people, throwing toxic substances at them, hitting them with saps, throwing them on the ground and in general being a danger to the people and to public order.

It shouldn't matter that their intent is, if ANTIFA are out there hurting innocent people like I've seen on countless videos, is it not a reasonable impression to believe they should be stopped?

And further, a bewildering query as to why they haven't been stopped yet. If a crowd of a hundred is protecting the two or three that are actual attackers, then everyone should be locked down for conspiracy to commit violence or aiding and abetting or any number of charges an imaginative and prepared DA could muster, but in Portland it's crickets chirping. Like Antifa's antics are supposed to be normal, when they are nothing short of unruly and riotous mobs.

If you are out there to make a stand about something and not just to watch the human fuckery, you are a fucking idiot no matter what you believe

Maybe someday you'll actually witness an actual protest firsthand and start to understand. There's a definite learning curve for the police. It took Seattle years to figure it out. Judging from the last event in Portland, their police are figuring it out. Citizens get sick of it all quick enough. It's dangerous for everyone: police, protesters, citizens just trying to go about their business. If the police take too hardline of a stance, it can quickly make the situation explode, or lead to years of costly litigation. It's a volatile situation that requires a calculated, measured response.

Funny how you decry fascist Antifa, while advocating for an even more fascist, totalitarian response to them.

How many layers deep do you want to take the irony of ANTIFA claiming to be anti-fascist, while being the most fascist group, themselves?

You're boring us with this bullshit. Get back to /pol/, we all know you're just a troll and you're doing this over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over. The fun's gone out of it.

It honestly doesn't matter what a rioters calls themselves, when it becomes an unruly mob destroying property, hurting innocent people, and causing public mayhem, they are the very definition of why totalitarian responses even exist.

I live in SW Portland, I think I can help.

>riots ... seem to regularly take place in that area involving ANTIFA.

They really don’t happen that often. Once every other month maybe? Or basically when the spazzes get sufficiently mad over tweets lol. Mostly right leaning groups know that antifa get their shit stirred hard l, so they specifically come here to rile shit up. Not saying antifa doesn’t act like total douche bags, but yeah.

>Why does this stand there?
Most people I know are against it, also law enforcement only arrests antifa (lol) so there are penalties, that just primarily makes local news.

>What's wrong with the people there?

Mostly just city central and NE/SE. SW on/near the boundary is sane, middle class suburbia.

Basically, go to downtown for “culture” food, movies, shops, but don’t fucking live there.

As far as I see it portland looks like this:

23rd area: stupid fucking rich, but homeless people since very pedestrian friendly.

Burnside West: lot of homeless and “cool cats” but also kind of touristy (voodoo doughnuts, Powell’s, local shit)

Pioneer square/ city center: homeless and annoying, only go there for Saturday market.

Chinaman Town: homeless but some cool funky places.

Burnside E: Hipster and “woke”

NW: Black But also getting gentrified

SE: sellwood and reed college, so woke rich kids.

SW: normies

I suppose it’s kind of like Austin, stay out of the city proper and only go in if there’s something specific you want to see.

you're being played and you're too stupid to see it. Seriously - why would a bunch of righties go to Portland to begin with? Did they think they were going to convert the city to Trump? No, they went there just to get you to do what you're doing: trolling and spreading hate. I lived in Texas, you're all hat and no cattle asswipe.

I never claimed they weren't or that I agree with their methods. It just isn't practical to have the cops break ranks to run into a crowd and injure people to try to apprehend people. When they are safely able to they don't hesitate to grab people. They also go to video afterwards and use it to apprehend violators. They've gotten smart and also started going after the fuckheads who incite this shit in the first place.

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Yeah, Texas isn't perfect either, we have places in Austin and Houston that are very much "on the other side of the tracks" if you will.

Thanks for this geographic breakdown. It's interesting to learn about, since I've never been there, just been seeing it on the news in relation to the ANTIFA videos lately.

Is that so? Well, it sounds to me like ya'll are just all fur coat and no knickers there

You seem to have a hardon for the word ANTIFA. I'm guessing you're one of those cucks that are just WAITING for someone to start something near you so you could sucker punch them. Move on, this is a dead story.

Well no, but that actually sounds awesome!

No problem

Also in regards to
>been seeing it on the news in relation to the ANTIFA videos lately.

Honestly, aside from Trumps election night and maybe the women’s march, these riots/protest/counter-protests are super small. Like a few blocks, and even then it’s usually the same seven dumbasses doing shit (always left though, hmmmm)

So really, 90% of the city is fine to walk around.

>>It's a volatile situation that requires a calculated, measured response.

I get it that we can't roll in with the national guard and start busting heads to quell peaceful protests, but Portland has some real rose-colored shades they're viewing ANTIFA with to imagine they are "peaceful protestors" If you ask them, some ANTIFA will tell you themselves, they see themselves as revolutionaries taking a militant stand against .

I live in Happy Valley and I can confirm this.

The people that they're disagreeing with have fascist ideology, said ideologies have caused millions of deaths throughout existence. How the fuck do you think it's right to respect those ideas and let it all go to shit like has happened before. Open your eyes and start thinking for yourself instead of repeating what you racists grandpa said at the last family reunion. The only way to confront Nazis and fascist is through violence. So fuck you, and fuck everyone who's an "I'm not on either side", because you're part of the problem. If they come for all the minorities, and you don't move a finger, the day they come for you, you won't have no one to protect you.

I'm saying ANTIFA because that's what I'm asking about. The people in black masks. Not to be confused with actual peaceful protestors. Maybe you would rather people not make the distinction, but it's there.

Andy Ngo is an Asian-American reporter who was attacked by Antifa in Portland. He’s not even far right.

Fucking based mysides.exe

You’re a complete brain dead retard and suppressing ideologies is for authoritarian boot licking cucks. Eat shit. faggot.
>you’re part of the problem
This fucking line alone makes me think I’m responding to bait. Fuck off.

It's like this guy said It's just a handful of shitheads in isolated events. The videos you see are carefully edited (and sometimes even staged) by both sides to get an emotional response. It's mostly propaganda bullshit. It's really easy for people who want to avoid these shitshows to do so. People getting hurt at these events are choosing to be there and take that risk.

So keeping your mouth shut and looking the other way isn't being part of the problem? I touched a nerve there, that's why you're so touchy about it. Piss off.

This has to be bait, or you're like a poor kid surrounded by bad apples poisoning your viewpoint. Your comment is brimming with fascist ideology.

"With us or against us" you say? Well, rest assured the world is against you, ANTIFA.

Now half of ANTIFA are actually Trump supporters?
You lib faggots get more comical by the day with your placing blame on everything that makes your party look like hypocritical dirtbags.

Again, that was an isolated event. He was also trying to infiltrate and talking shit on camera like no one could hear him. He chose to take that risk so he could get views and shekels.

Only in your reich-wing fever dreams, Klan-boi.

>How to respond to fascism? MORE FASCISM!!!

That's what you sound like, dude. The answer is NO. The answer is more freedom. Including the freedom to quash unlawful assemblies causing public mayhem. Think about that for a minute

Good, fuck niggers and fuck you too. Spics are okay sometimes. The fact that you’re not thinking the word nigger every time you encounter one means you have probably had very limited interactions with niggers, or are a nigger yourself. I wish trump had the authority to remove niggers, but he doesn’t. You’re posturing over your own fantasies. I sincerely wish that fascism existed in this country, but it doesn’t. Nationalist ideas do, but we’re the greatest country on earth, we should be proud. Unfortunately, no one will be rounding up niggers anytime soon. Keep crying over nothing tho lol can’t wait to see the tears when he runs and wins virtually unopposed in 2020

>They also go to video afterwards and use it to apprehend violators.
You mean the ones wearing masks so they cant be identified? You havent thought out your lies well enough to convince anyone snowflake.

Hey OP since your question got answered by me (lol you-ing myself)
can Portlanders just hijack this and talk about dank shit to do in Portland???

DO
Coffee
Skip Stumptown and go to there places
Heart
Sterling
Public Domain
Coffee House NW
Barista

Walk around
Mississippi
23rd
Sellwood
Farmers market
Pioneer place
Around Powell’s
(Not super familiar w/ East side so maybe ppl can help with that)

Stores
Guardian Games
Uwajimaya (Lol beaverton shout out)
Powell’s (Burnside location best imo)
Kiriko
Made here pdx
Oblation ( spelled Obilation maybe?)
And I know SE has a lot of local places

Also GET A FUKKIN LOPRINZIS GYM SHIRT BEFORE THAT FUCKING LANDMARK CLOSES FOR GOOD!

Anyway, yeah, don’t mind the nerds, this city is alright.

No dipshit, did you read the post?

No, it's not us or against us, is all against fascist. Why the fuck would you want things to be like in WWII? You're obviously a spoiled brat that has never left your parents basement because you're afraid of the real world, and you're just a fucking idiot believing what daddy tells you about what's going on in the world.

Oh fuck I forgot.

SKIP FUCKING VOODOO DOUGHNUTS.

It’s literally the same shit as Kroger’s (we call it Fred Meyer)

A lot of the “bespoke” food choices are not worth it other than to just say you had it, but voodoo is literal trash.

They get caught all the time through comparing video from earlier or later in the day, or through social network. Fuck, this website has even caught some of them, you silly brainlet faggot.

>The greatest country in the world.

That just proves how fucking naive and brainless you are, you lost

Found the Antifa fanboy. Do you have their posters all over your bedroom walls kid?

Tl:dr just shoot people that attack you, end of discussion

So you agree to respect Nazism and fascism?

Voodoo doughnuts is delicious though. Not sure why locals hate it so bad.

Also also

Upper playground
Floating world comics
Ground control

Also check out the thrift/antique stores. Always weird shit in those.

Also what’s that Comic store near laurel wood?

Also do fire on the mountain

Also, fuck, my wife is going out with the kid tomorrow and now I’m just gonna have a day on the town.

Also do the 24 pancake house off of Powell

ALSO tastebud pizza is the best (and fuck people who recommend Kens pizza kitchen or w/e, you’ll have like a 2 hour wait).

Don't you understand that when your masters demonize some groupe, wither "nazis" or "fascists" they're training you like a DOG to respond to their needs? Suddenly, all they have to do is point and identify someone as "nazi" or "fascist" and you're all for beating them to death, then, right? Just bring down the whole wrath of the Mob on them, right?

Dude, we all want peace and prosperity, and it's the obstalces to that that we try to dismantle. Be careful you're not just somoene elses dog, Rest assured, I'm looking at this with clear logic. Whereas you are getting triggered into emotional ubheaval.

Understand that you're being manipulated, and then brainwashed to think anyone who disagrees is actually the one gettting brainwashed.

There are no nazi's anymore. they're all gone and dead. Your masters just beat that drum so long you believe it without question, and suddenly, everyone that disagrees with you is a nazi fascist, right? Get help

He's right, though. American is the greatest country on the planet. Why do you think literally hundreds of thousands of people a year risk life and limb just to live here?

Ground Kontrol is cool. Their bathroom is amazing.

First, blessings upon this post.

But second, no, it isn’t good, you just have shittier doughnuts.

Honestly, doughnuts aren’t worth it to spend a lot of money on, but if you absolutely want to, pips or bluestar is better.

(Seriously, just buy a patch or something from voodoos website, say you went there, and get a better doughnut somewhere else.

So you agree with silencing groups of people based on what they think? That's fascism. I'm talking about responding to physical attacks with nuanced law enforcement response. You're talking about killing people who you disagree with. Don't be a fool.

It's fun to convince idiots on /pol/ that Voodoo is a front for pedophiles. The Pizzagate tards eat that shit up.

I tried Bluestar too. They were pretty good. Voodoo is overpriced though, I'll give you that.

user I’d like to thank you for making him look stupid so I didn’t have to.

ITT: Antifa are the REAL fascists!

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I don't care if people disagree with my views, I can't get around people(not agreeing), but not seeing it a wrong. What do you have to say about the extreme nationalist groups in America promoting hate against minorities? Why do you think they use Nazi flags? I see you're not dumb and you're objective, but peace and prosperity can't be achieve by just 'not supporting' nationalism and being 'open minded', if you want peace and prosperity you have to fight for peace and prosperity, not just wait for it to happen, because it's not going to happen. That's why you have to fight these groups. It's like saying, I don't mind crime because I've never been robbed. Most people don't mind these things because they've never been subjec to their actions. But once you get something stolen from your house, all of a sudden you're Mr.chief of police and the country is unsafe and you can't believe this happened to YOU, when it's been happening in front of your eyes, you just chose not to look.

>So fuck you, and fuck everyone who's an "I'm not on either side", because you're part of the problem.
Correction, it's the people on each end of the fringes that are the problem. If the US was rid of the 10% hardest leaning on both ends of the political spectrum, the entire country could go back to relative normality and move forward as a whole.

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Great argument

Yeah, but the people who are supposed to impose the law are from the same far right side, so the laws that are enforcing are the ones on their own benefit. I know you're not stupid, I know you can see this happening in the greatest country in the world.

Sure you would've, big boy.

The Portland Mayor has literally told the NYPD to do the bare minimum and not arrest ANTIFA members. Keep accusing the right of selective law enforcement. At least I can actually provide an example.

>but we’re the greatest country on earth
As an American myself, where the dafuq do people get this shit from!? It's all people parrot, we ARE NOT "The Greatest Country on Earth", we're actually pretty far up the slope of the bell curve on a lot of things that we shouldn't, like education and child mortality rates. We are however one the most arrogant and violent countries on Earth, which explains why no one challenge's us officially on that talking point.

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You're right with that, I was talking a more general level since the whole country was mentioned.

Keep shilling, white-power incel

I just realize it autocorrected to NYPD because im used to talking about those cunts lmao.

not to BE a pizzatard, but there is some validity to the conspiracy as of late

> 2019
> Still conflating black bloc tactics with antifascism
> Thinks field medics helping people with tear gas injuries are "just as fascist" as the cops with white power tattoos

The groups you reference are tiny, and have no respect. I assume you are from another country, and not native to the US to make these assertions. I can understand, as you are subject to the bias of the media you consume.

Let me clarify some things. In America there are many groups and organizations that are very unpopular. The groups that advocate for open violence against minorities are not the ones being defended by anyone, however the media often makes no distinction between real hate groups and "nationalist" groups. In the same way that in this country we have Gay Pride, Black Pride, and such, there must be room for White Pride as well, or you are advocating the literal definition of what you claim to oppose.

Having pride in yourself is not a crime. Also, having pride in your country and being a NATIONALIST is not a crime. If you are white and also a nationalist, then you are a White Nationalist, and again, have committed no crime, however the media makes no distinction between hate groups and white nationalists in order to advance their agenda, and to inflate the story as international news to get ratings.

What you have been told is also what they tell the kids here. Many in Antifa believe that they are fighting oppression and therefore they feel validated in using ANY force necessary. It's pure delusion and madness being orchestrated by either unwitting fools or someone with an agenda trying in incite violence.

>if you want peace and prosperity you have to fight for peace and prosperity

You are correct. However, in the US today, any claim at systemic racism is false, any claim that the president is racist is utterly false despite widespread belief that he is. These are stories pushed by their opponents to demonize them.

Is there? What have I missed?

Let me give you a perfect example. Recently, The president told 4 controversial congresswomen here (who are very unpopular with the people) that they should "Go back to where they came from" and fix the problems there before trying to act like they have real solutions for the country.

It is without question that he was telling them to fix the problems in their congressional districts before acting like they can fix the entire nation's problems. However, every international media outlet misconstrued his LITERAL words into a racist attack. That's pure fiction. Suddenlly there are news outlets saying the POTUS said they should "GO BACK TO THEIR COUNTRY" He never said that. Literally. This misinformation has poisoned the views of many people, and you must try to see through the fog of war to the reality that is information warfare. This is just one factual example of the bias misinformation and you can objectively reserach it on your own, his tweet was public he never said "country" he was referring to their struggling congressional districts they represent, but he was framed as a racist for that comment.

Think about it, and seek the truth.

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You clearly don't understand what he is asking. What they call themselves or what their intent is is irrelevant, it's the chaos and flagrant disregard for the law that must be stopped. What confusing is the fact that very little m, if nothing, is being done.

It wouldn't be a totalitarian response, it would a utilitarian response.

ohhhhh man... Epstein dragged a lot of motherfuckers down with him, I'll find the link and post in another comment, but the owner of cosmic ping-pong or whatever, (the pizza shop in pizzagate) posted photos of his toddler daughter on instagram with a mysterious hastag, #carisjames. Epstein's pedo island is officially named Little St. James and its in the Caribbean. (CAR)ibbean (IS)land (JAMES). Let me find the link and you can do ur own digging.

and the hastag was used on plenty of other very young photos of girls, some sort of confirmation to let people know either where they'd be or where they go them from.

Thank you for making this important distinction.

brainstain.us/2019/07/11/what-is-carisjames/ Here is a comprehensive article, obviously this is all fringe info because of its conspiracy nature, but there is a lot of convincing evidence. This isnt the one I read but its the first one I saw.

And yet I've seen many of them be arrested firsthand. But by all means, keep believing the ridiculous narrative you are spouting.

I'm not going to select the things on your response I agree with because there are many, especially everything about media portraying groups, and the pride for each group.
What I mean when I say that the people in charge are part of the far right is because of extreme measures that have been taken against minorities, and you cannot deny that, and however the media portraits it, it is still wrong. I'm not form America, I'm from a small country where we don't even have am army. But I've been long enough in the US to know how things are, I don't condone extremism, but coming from a minority, and a family of minorities that even in this country have been subject to discrimination, I don't think that there's a way to accept the fact that there are people who still try to impose fascist ideas, and people who support white supremacists groups. I will always fight against those groups. I know white pride exists, but the theme "white pride" has always been used on racist groups. When you're being rejected or made fun of because of your race, or where you come from, you'll get my point. The same way we cannot understand a women's fear when she walks alone at night.

Hilarious. I'll have to go back to LARPing on /pol/ as a concerned ex-employee with insider information.

If you disagree with antifa you are either a bootlicker or a fascist. Either way fuck you. Socialism will win.

Oh really?
> In Texas...
Stfu faggot. Only steers and queers come from Texas. Oh and even bigger faggots like u.

I'm a multi-ethnic American National with dual citizenship, but appear as a white Caucasian, so I have felt the antagonism from both sides, and still I maintain my position. Most people in Texas are multi-ethnic, mixed Hispanic and Caucasian.

My uncle entered the US illegally three times and was deported twice, and finally after many years got citizenship legally. I denounce his illegal entries personally. It's wrong.

It is not racist to secure the borders of one's country, but indeed the president and his cabinet have been labeled as racist by their opponents as a smear campaign. We denounce the illegal entry of thousands of undocumented immigrants. They make it hard for the legal immigrants going through the right channels. There is no systemic racism in this country. Minorities have huge advantages from scholarships that are minority only, to Affirmative action laws on the federal level. In reality, minorities have been given more benefits to comepsate for past perceived prejudices inflicted on them. Today the US encourages minority migrant inclusion. It's the illegal immigrants (potentially criminal or terrorist infiltration) that we have a problem against, not the color of their skin.

>Inb4 this becomes copypasta

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Yay! Looks like the Trump Internet Defense Force has arrived.

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>It is not racist to secure the borders of one's country
I agree, we also have problems with illegal immigrants, it happens in every country.
But the people, the "American people", took it lets say, personally even against legal immigrants because that's their interpretation of nationalism and patriotism, and more than interpretation it's what is being taught at homes, and what they hear from their elders since they were young.

>>Uses an example of Cuck Spartan and his 24 year old bitch daughter who the right claims is a child.

The guy is fucking crazy and doesn't even have a coherent political message. He just wants to cause shit in every public place he can.

This is not required to secure one's borders.

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Perhaps some, just like there are many people in the country who take a militant response against whites for the color of their skin, or Christians for their Fatih. The same can be said for every country also. It doesn't represent the country as a whole, necessarily.

The US is a big country. Even one of our states are often bigger than some whole countries. So there are many people with many beliefs. Just like in your country. Unfortunately, the US has a reputation having established itself as a global superpower, and therefore, I believe media outlets often exaggerate extremism here in order advance their own narrative and make a story that will generate views.

The problems at our border aren't normal. They are fabricated. Caravans from south America carrying thousands of migrants were orchestrated to arrive all at once. It would create a humanitarian crisis anywhere.

I get that you're trying to bypass a discussion by using what you see as emotionally charged imagery. This is a basic tactic that I have no respect for. Speak your case.

What do you think is required to secure one's borders when an orchestrated campaign with caravans carrying many thousands of people, including confirmed gang and organized crime elements?

Would you have us open the borders to anyone anytime? Surely, you are deluded.

The act of always attempting to choose the most reasonable interpretation for what this piece of shit says is ridiculous. News flash: They were already "where they came from" exercising their first amendment rights to criticize this piece of shit. Funny that he didn't tell anyone else that up until now.

Deluded he says, as immigration is at the lowest point of the last half century.

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They came from crime infested shithole congressional districts across the country, not from Washington DC, or do you not understand how the congress works in the US?

Again, it is well established that dozens of caravans were sent at once with the intention of flooding and overwhelming the border security, which the believed would simply collapse and alllow them in.

Would you have preferred that? Again, what's your proposed solution? How do you imagine dealing with tens of thousands of people banging on your door?

Yeah, I'm sure the GOP would love it if all the democrats went home and never came into work so they could finish their industrialist master's wishes to cut every program in the country.

In that same way I don't agree with secluding people from any group.
I bet you are tired of illegal immigration, I would too, but that doesn't makes immigrants less, they're going there for a reason, because countries South of the US are in bad condition, I bet if they could go somewhere else, they would. The so called American dream is nobody's dream, is a necessity for a lot of people from countries that have let them down.
There's a reason why the US has such a bad reputation, and I don't think it's because 'a few groups/people' it's because those few have enough power to have a big impact on other people.
I'm off to work, thank you for having an objective mature debate.

Cheers.

Found the antifa facist.

Trump has been cutting the first aid budgets for Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador since 2017.

$131 million in aid to Guatemala
$98 million to Honduras
$68 million to El Salvador
in 2016, according to Reuters.

$69 million for Guatemala
$66 million for Honduras
$46 million for El Salvador
in 2017

Now we're seeing a surge in immigration from these countries and you're all surprised?

Thanks. Just keep in mind what I said about the media. Consider that it may simply be a narrative you heard, and not a reality.

>few have enough power to have a big impact on other people
You are correct. The problem is that those few with the power, hide behind in and use puppets from all sides, so the truth is not so easy, and one must always question.

I wonder who helped those countries get in such a horrible state?

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I know bro . We should all out on masks and our brown shirts and autistically run around screaming, destroying property, writing propaganda graffiti and beating people up who don't agree with us.

That's a lot of money, yes, that would be better spent securing the borders of the US, than pissing it away in countries that aren't supporting America, wouldn't you agree?

Or are you of the impression that for whatever reason, America owes these countries something? No, it sounds like they owe the US quite a lot for all the help over the years.

not the same person, but

Everyone should be anti fascist, user.

Fascism loves to hide and multiply in the cracks of freedom provided by modern liberalism. For instance, at the Battle of Cable Street in 1936 the British Union of Fascists decided they wanted to march through the East End of London, and about 20,000 people from the local community turned up to block the march. They didn't want fascists in their community, they had already tried and failed ahead of time to get the government to stop the march, the government refused, and because the march was therefore technically legal, the police protected the fascists and attacked the antifascist protestors, who ended up having to fight not just fascists but their own police force as well, the very people who were ostensibly meant to be defending their community against threats.

We all know exactly what happened just a few years later when fascism was allowed to take hold, protected by freedom of speech - It became an existential threat to the system that previously protected it.

portland is no better then your liberal fag filled cesspool

>in texas

why do you give a shit about some left wing cesspool if you live in texas? man,trump has really flushed america down the toilet if even texas is going left now because of drumpf

also,you should look up proud boys when they were assaulting people in new york.also,all of the right wing militas when barack obama was president.since you seem to try to want to make beleive that the left are the only ones who attack people and property,etc

I bet he uses a scarf from his mom's closet to cover his face and pretend he's making a difference.

>the law is clear that he, her, or anyone standing by would be acting in self defense, to literally mow down every single attacker there.

how well did that work out for florida? op is obviously some southern redneck trump supporter

The caravans are manufactured by the destabilized region as tariffs and aid cuts cause issues in these places, user. Now instead of meager aid packages, we have to spend $775 a day for all of Trumps' pals to run internment camps on the US border. If you destabilize these areas and cause economic issues in your neighbors trying to "Make America Great Again," you will be dealing with the fallout walking over your border.

Niggers

'Righties' are anyone who doesn't support antifa. By default, antifa sees around 90% of the country as alt right.

> you will be dealing with the fallout walking over your border.

And I don't have a problem with this. It's you who seems to think securing our borders against these illegal aliens is somehow wrong.

$775 a day per immigrant, if it wasn't clear*

The answer is clearly open borders so we lose sovereignty over our nation and allow the cartels absolute freedom of operation.

So america has to pay people off to not fuck it up? like how the mafia ran shit? Maybe we should just go to war.

>>The false dichotomy of the right mixed with complete stupidity.

We never came close to having any of that under Obama, nor suggested that.

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I just happen to be from Costa Rica. So, yeah..

We have laws. We also have freedoms. You believe it is right to attract people that belong to a group that promotes racism. Where does that imaginary line end? What about religious groups that promote homophobia? What about groups like la Raza and black Panthers? What about sexism? In your definition Islam should be not only outlawed but Muslims beat in the streets as their religion calls for the death if all non Muslims, homosexuals, and treats women like slaves. Inb4 they don't believe that. It says it in the Koran.

Dipshit, what do you think the left is arguing for? Amnesty for all. Medicare/medicaid for all. That's basically open borders. The left does not want to enforce any border security because that's racist.

America benefits from stability and a non-corrupt law enforcement in these areas. You can't transfer the profits from the labor of their work if they're too busy attacking you and running drugs.

Then we should over throw their corrupt governments and ensure they are ran by capable leaders. Change will never come from throwing money at them. The corrupt leaders will keep it for themselves. All the left ever wants to do is create more laws, throw money at shit and grow government.

I don't care to diffuse all the propaganda you've ingested. We suggest you don't keep people in tents under bridges because you're too much of an idiot to make a deal on DACA or claim you don't have to provide soap and toothpaste to all the people you're locking up.

Freedom will ultimately never benefit from locking everyone up.

Instead of dancing around and hiding behind infographics, do you care to actually deliver a statement?

You denounce the response to the orchestrated caravans against our border, but you offer no solution, just a fuzzy anti-american sentiment that it's somehow the US's fault for not sending more money to shithole countries that are falling apart due to internal problems.

It sounds like you're saying the equivalent of:
>If you don't support our failing countries, by giving us literally hundreds of millions of dollars a year in free aid, then we'll send our criminals cartels, poor, sick, infirm, to your borders to cause chaos.

That's extortion. And no country should bow to those irrational demands, indeed countries have gone to war for less.

You are so ignorant of modern history in Latin America that it is painful.

>>Then we should over throw their corrupt governments

You are clearly genocidal. Why don't you go do that then?

The same reason why we don't: You don't want to spend any resources doing so, because that would take time, money, and action... Rationale thinking and cooperation.

Way beyond Trump and the GOP.

So you're saying everything in the world is the fault of america? That they aren't typically run by corrupt military dictatorships? Oh please educate me! Teach me why America owes them everything we have!

I go to Portland on business every couple months. Watched Antifa beat up retarded kids waiting for a bus. When I asked about it I was told if you defend the tard kids you would be the one arrested. The dont have stand your ground laws in Portland. In my state if purple haired freaks attack you on the streets or in your car you can shoot the fucks on site. Thats why you will never see Antifa in a southern state because we would kill them. Proud boys punked them down and made them look stupid in their own shit-hole city. They are pussy bullies plain and simple.

1. They arrive in caravans with many thousands of people per caravan totally tens of thousands of people within days of each other, overwhelming the border resources on purpose and then claiming it's our fault for trying our best to accommodate them and not just shutting the door on them. Crossing the border illegaly is illegal, these are scofflaws and literal criminals.

2.
>you don't have to provide soap and toothpaste to all the people you're locking up.
They are all provided with all toiletries and proper age and sex specific hygene products. The reason they didn't accept random aid from unvetted sources is that, just like in prisons, accomplices can smuggle weapons and drugs through the "care packages". You probably don't even understand that that's why the toothbrushes were turned back and not accepted. they already have those, and it's a security issue to allow anyone to just pass them tons of supplies

Oregonfag here, i dont live in portland and im glad i dont, its a massive shithole. but from what i understand portland's mayor is a MASSIVE CUCK FAGGOT CRYBABY LIBTARD
and he supports antifa being destructive anarchist terrorists because it's apparently their "right" to incite violence against right wing people. portland's mayor also thinks that all right wing people are NAZIS!!1!1!!!! so he is basically just as retarded as any antifa. honestly dont even know why this cuck is a fucking mayor, like how does that even happen.

pic related ted wheeler the gay ass stealer

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Amen. Don't like trump but wish the media would be honest. It gives his supporters more amunition then anything

lol nice IP Langley, VA

You do realize that the U.S. has a long history of intervention and destabilization of countries currently at the center if the immigration crisis? It's very much a problem that we helped create for decades.

I don't have to explain and interpret a solution to all the world's problems to you, user. This is the reason people need to be educated. Chaos and instability bring with them a much more costly financial burden than order and peace. If you don't fund order then chaos will eat your lunch and you'll have no funding when the situation continues to deteriorate.

There's a reason everyone gets up in arms when you stop doing things we've been doing since the end of WWII, because all of conventional wisdom has shown it's the best way to help the situation and create stability.

The profits of our companies is NOT something we should be using all of state power to increase.

Because Portland is a liberal as fuck city. There aren't many states that would tolerate that type of behavior, so they get away with shit where they can. It's hard to believe the same government that pulled off Kent State is now so flaccid.

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Antifa live there. The Proud Boys are the invading force.

I never seen one fucking libtard blame anyone but the US for all these shit-hole countries problems.
Mexico has one of the richest men on earth and over 30+ billionaires.
Venezuela is the most oil rich country on earth.
But hey it must be the white Americans fault

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California is pretty big user. I wouldn't judge every citizen here as a representative from San Francisco or LA. This the home of the wild west. Many people here are sickened by the values and position our representatives have taken. I am a 35 year old dude born and raised in San Diego and do not have children yet, but when I do I am either moving out of the city or to another state.

"Invading by proxy" - No

"establishing stable governments in their place?" - Yes

And you just choose to deny any role we have played in helping to create the current state of these countries.

Fuck off. These Proud boys and right wing fascists travel hundreds/thousands of miles to go to liberal areas and start shit.

My only hope is they get hurt worse. OP used this guy as an example: youtube.com/watch?v=FAzH_VrJ5rI

We have given out billions in aid. At what point is it your job to clean up your own mess. I guess when you were a kid someone else would clean your room for you and you would bitch at them for doing it

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You act like they're countries are like a little child. Like a baby, we're somehow supposed to take care of.

Their countries are full of grown as men, and powerful leaders in their own right.

Get real

Americans spend 7 billion dollars a year on potato chips.

Total aid without Trump cuts would have been $1.7 billion of U.S. assistance to Latin America and the Carribean.

Maybe you can put your shit in perspective and realize a little bit of aid to stabilize these regions is nothing in the scheme of things.

the primary purpose of foreign aid is to reduce immigration from those countries shit for brains.

its how you know the immigration problem is just being made worse by the racists in the trump white house so they can use it as a wedge issue to inflame morons like you.

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>child mortality rates
>niggers

fuck you you simpleton

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Dude you are so fucking dumb.
Venezuela has more oil than any middle east country. they should look at the Saudis as poor fags. Why do want the US to pay for the rest of the world?
Mexico has more natural resources than the US or Canada. Its not my fault they are dumb as fuck.
How does me giving them all my money change that?

ALL FUCKING NIGGERS MUST FUCKING HANG.

You sound like a Portland antifa fag.
They asked one of they antifas what the fuck they are fighting for and he said free money and drugs.
The poor oppressed left

Why do you throw a random irrelevant fact out like the amount of oil they have? That's one country, and if they were stable enough to drill for oil their output wouldn't be falling like a rock.

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Antifa is an ad-hoc anarchist organisation with no memberships or leadership. Anyone can put on a mask and say whatever they want. Who cares.

you sound like a kool aid drinking trump cock sucking fascist.

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He's right though, the problem with these countries is the people. Corrupt government and inadequate attention to maintaining and upgrading infrastructure. Why doesn't this happen? because of internal corruption. No amount of aid will help with that. It's a pipe dream. What you are describing is nothing short of the kind of extortion the mafia mobs used to use here in the US.

Essentially "Give us money and we won't hurt you" Do you think this actually helps anyone beyond the corrupt leaders of those countries impoverished by their own ineptness? If anything it only accelerates their decay by permitting and enforcing their rule.

If you're talking about "STABALIZING" a country, the US knows how to do that, and it takes boots on the ground. I'd say not paying them their extortion money is a good start.

>They asked one of they antifas what the fuck they are fighting for and he said free money and drugs.
Who is "they", and who is the person who answered this alleged question? Did they answer sincerely or was there heavy sarcasm that you're either willfully ignoring or too stupid to catch?

Assuming this happened at all, of course. It didn't, we all know this, but let's indulge ourselves and assume it did.

Please point me to the argument where the Trump administration has ever suggested we intelligently cut aid to these countries? If you only want to fund certain organizations with certain goals in the country that's a perfectly rational idea which could be fine.

All or nothing is the problem. Lumping everyone in an entire country into "these people this, or these people that" is wrong and will get us no where.

Except that unless the US is invading a country, the US doesn't decide who gets the aid. This has been evident countless times when we drop aid, and whatever warlord is in charge that day takes the lion's share of it for his family, and his gang, and his army, not the starving people they use for propaganda.

So you either need to decide if you want a hands off approach or an ALL IN approach, this half-ass "Just send them money" approach is total nonsense. I think leaving them to their own and protecting our borders is the correct solution. Too many people want it every way, and it doesn't work like that.

They output is their own doing dumb-ass. They are eating rats because they already ate the zoo animals.
Look at fucking South Africa. They were the richest country in Africa. They kicked out the evil whites. Now they cant keep the power on and cant grow any food.
I guess thats the white Americans fault also.
I'm still waiting for the left to call out one fucking person in the shit-hole countries for their own problems

It was some fucking dumb cunt they said was the spokesman. Its not my fault they are drug using cucks

Wasn't Obama the one who signed the current sanctions against Venezuela over human rights violations, or does he not count as "the left" since that would undermine the ridiculous argument you keep trying to push?

I'm not him, but I'll repeat what he said, which is true.

Their output is their own doing.

All I can envision is dressing up like I'm part of ANTIFA, and once I see them assult somebody, I assult them, bash them with my bat and take every single one of those soyboys on until I'm arrest by police.

If cops won't do it, vigilantes will make sure to crush these cucks and make them suffer dearly for being mentally retarded.

Portland resident here. Antifa pretty much have free reign here. PPB doesn’t really do anything. The mayor is supporting Antifa. The homeless are fucking everywhere. You can regularly meet Antifa people around town. They’re all batshit insane anarcho communists and mislead casual liberals. They’re a genuine black bloc terrorist group. They’ll attack anyone that isn’t apart of their agenda.

Imagine having to be at a BBQ and overhear their insane threats and communist shilling. That’s how it is here.

Whats the ridiculous argument im trying to push?
That these countries should use their own extreme wealth to help themselves?
I dont give a fuck whose President. Good for Obooma. You guys are the ones with TDS. You would think all these countries were great then Trump ruined them all

In other words they enjoy support from the community because the Proud boys and neo-fascists travel thousands of miles to fuck with the community, and when those groups aren't there they sit around having BBQs?

Sounds like heaven for non-white supremacist.

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No, it's more like the city is such a cesspool of indifference and cowardice that literal radical terrorist groups can operate with impunity because they're so "woke".

You sound like a real bootlicker, boy, you just prefer yours black.

To a large extent it is, but their allegations of repeated U.S. interference aren't even two decades old, and seem to coincide with us no longer being the chief beneficiary of their natural resources. Not to mention how badly our relationship with them seemed to repeatedly deteriorate under GOP chicken hawk rule.

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In other words, you don't really give a shit about their country, you're just in it to take a dig at your perceived political opposition. yea... real classy there, but I get it.

More of the Proud boys are from Washington than Antifa. Most of Antifa are suburban rich druggies from Cali.
They are not neighborhood defenders. They beat up old people while they tell antifa they voted for Obomma please stop beating us.

The same kind of false equivocation you spout constantly. Everyone who disagrees with your radical ideology is a nazi, right? I get it, you're deluded and live in a fantasy hugbox. good for you, twinkle toes. Join reality anytime.

Fuck off. If these racists pieces of shit would stop trying to build fascism in the streets, there would be no antifa. Where was the antifa agenda from 2000 to 2015 exactly? When did you hear a damn thing about them? Oh that's right, never.

You could just go on with the rest of your life and stop turning up to fascist rallies. And Antifascists probably aren't gonna buy you a pint and be your best friend but they'll move on. And the historical evidence supports this: when fascists in a particular city stop getting together and organizing antifascists go back to their lives as well.

Meant Oregon and Washington

The only fascism I see on the streets is antifa, you dolt.

No, because like any decent human being, I have the capacity for empathy when other humans are suffering. As far as I'm concerned, both major U.S. political parties are opposite sides of the same corrupt coin.

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>same old song and dance

Literally your stance is this:

>If you don't agree with me you are Literally Hitler
>Literally Hitler
>LITERALLY

That's all you got, and it just speaks volumes of how blind deaf and dumb you are to the truth.

So in other words, you're anti-american and just want to see it burn, right? Classic antifa bullshit.

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>fags, jews, niggers, cucks, feminists, masked from head to toes
>fascists

learn history dude, they are not even close to fascists.
They are commie bolshevik retards

>>VIOLENCE IS FASCISM

It's not. Do you need a dictionary?

Fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.

1. governmental system
2. dictator with complete power
3. forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism
4. regimenting all industry, commerce,
5. Emphasizing an aggressive nationalism
6. Racism

They don't meet a single point on the fascism checklist....

im someone else but
imagine denying the deep state though, wow you liberals are really delusional.... Its pretty much aknowledged at this point

Nope. I don't support Antifa tactics either. I know everything has to be black or white for you to keep things simple, but you are playing a fool's game and letting other people force feed you their narrative. I think there's a term for that. Oh yeah: useful idiot.

DOZENS OF WHITE MAGA TERRORISTS HAVE BEEN ARRESTED IN THE LAST MONTH. EVERY SINGLE DOMESTIC TERRORIST MURDER LAST YEAR WAS FROM WHITE MAGA TERRORISTS.

Moron Maga kool aid drinks think the anti-fascists are the ones to be worried about.

fuckin racist liars.

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ANTIFA = Anti First Amendment
Those bitches only operate in liberal cesspool cities, as you said in TX or here in SC, the castle doctrine is the law of the land and we don't play around... If you surround me and attack me and my own, you get shot. That simple

Ok, well, by your definition, nobody that antifa attacks is fascist either. You sit down and think about that, fool.

My free speech might offend some, that's how it goes / you don't get to decide... don't be a pussy bitch ass snowflake

Well, what's interesting is that by all accounts, you are the useful idiot. Who's useful idiot are you? I'm sure you would have me believe I'm Trump's, but someone has fed you that, and conditioned you, you poor deluded boy.

Do you need a dictionary?
You do know Nazi means National Socialism?
So Antifa and the left are Nazis.

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Yeah, they start with step 6 and generally try to work their way up.

If we could put step 0 on the list, it would be genocide.

Hiding behind free speech, which modern liberalism has provided you, is not a be all cover for building fascism in the streets.

See

Right back at you, fool. ANTIFA is the very definition of terrorism. They are literally a black bloc terrorist organization that hide behind masks. Don't play the fool, you know it's true.

Who is rounding them up into gas chambers? Nobody. They don't need to hide to peacefully protest, they hide their identity, because they are criminal scum, bent on mayhem, looting, roberry, and mischief because they feel entitled to it, and see everyone as their enemy.

Wake up, idiot.

>backpedalling
>changing goalposts

Fuck off, dude, you're wrong on every level.

>N-n-no! You are the useful idiot!
Guess that's me BTFO then.

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As far as I can tell, none of you have any coherent argument beyond the ideological fantasy that everyone who disagrees with you is literally Hitler himself.

Bullshit. The right wing motherfuckers spent all of 2001-2008 creating anti-terrorism laws, and liberals warned this was dangerous because they could quite easily be used against regular Americans. Now you're trying to do exactly just that because some Americans roughed up fascist fucks in the street.

If you want to see some terrorists, look in the mirror at the authoritarian bullshit you're trying to push.

Call me old fashioned, but when people march through the street carrying Nazi flags, and have Nazi tattoos, espousing Nazi ideals, I think it is fair to call them out for what they are. Funny how they hate being seen and called out for what they actually are.

Which goalpost is that? I'm generally confused on what your argument is?

I'm not saying impose some draconian law to impose an authoritarian government you fucking idiot. There are already laws against what ANTIFA does.

Let me add that your response is what I'm talking about. You have no sense. You see everyone who disagrees with you as instantly the most extreme possible ideology.

What you are doing is straw-manning. And it's the reason people are getting hurt. Your lies hurt people, but you don't care, because you think you're scoring "woke" points with your buddies or some shit, you total cunt.

Has never happened in the US.
Try again to make up fake Nazis.
I think the SPLC even said there are like 7 kkk dudes total.
Again Nazi means National Socialism, you are a Nazi

>I'll act a fool, that'll throw him off now

Give me a break dude, you list half a dozen attributes that fascists have and explain that ANTIFA is not because they are not those things. Then I point out that the same can be said about everyone ANTIFA has attacked, and you come back changing that goal post to meet your needs.

You can fuck off now that you're BTFO, fool

Are you delusional?

People have posted pics in this very thread of it happening here, you disingenuous liar.

Except that's exactly what Trump is saying. If you're at these organized rallies and get roughed up, I don't really give a shit. Stay the fuck home. Every political ideology is violent towards someone, shuts someone down, but the devil is in who and why.

In his 2004 book The Anatomy of Fascism, Paxton refines his five-stage model and puts forward the following definition for fascism:

"Fascism may be defined as a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victim-hood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion."

>Literally everyone who disagrees with me is Hitler Some radical dude? Clearly represents EVERYONE on the right

>B-B-But if ANTIFA attacks someone, it must mean they were Nazi's and if they do something wrong it must just be one bad apple and doesn't represent everyone

BTFO

Wew, lad.

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I'M MILLWALL

Pics of like 8 people.
George Soros has been caught funding people to dress up and play Nazis. He is the one funding Antifa. He does this so they can claim they are fighting someone. They have vids of Antifa dressing up like nazis then acting a fool. Dont fall for the fake boogie man.
Not one mass murderer has been a Proud Boy. Several have been Antifa fags

The top pic is Antifa beating up a dad and his daughter who had nothing to do with any of the protest. Show me a pic of proud boys doing anything like that

There are many such images, and many mass killers with extreme right wing ideologies. I suppose Soros funded all of those as false flags too? Stop being intellectually dishonest. I can't even think of a modern Antifa mass murderer, even though every time there is another mass killing /pol/fags instantly try to say the suspect is Antifa. Don't tell me you actually fall for that shit?

That's bullshit. The dude and daughter in the video is John [Based/ Cuck Spartan] and Bianca Turano. She's 24 and called 5 year old girls in the street a terrorist. They deserve what they get.


See the video linked there.

I suspect this is the real answer.

He's dressed head toe in protest gear saying he hates people and is swinging around a metal shield. You're a fucking idiot.

That girl is no more than 12. Idont know what vid your watching but seeing grown dudes chase a kid and saying thats ok (i dont care how the dads dressed Antifa is dressed up to dumbass) shows you are a big pussy like antifa. Funny how those brave antifas didnt do shit when the proud boys were out there

Dude the last couple were antifa john brown gun club types

If you want to deport someone then do it immediately don't allow corporations to milk taxpayers trying to house them indefinitely

Sure they were. They definitely weren't the usual shooped social network screen grabs always posted on /pol/ within minutes of any happening before the profiles get taken down so no one is able to prove otherwise.

Her name is Bianca. She is 24. She's the defending calling a 5 year old a terrorist:

youtube.com/watch?v=AoMe4g8nLuw

Here she is again discussing the movement

youtube.com/watch?v=cyYzmvgUwBk


You're an idiot lapping up propaganda.

Just start shooting those pieces of shit. Fuck antifa

Based user, shutting these lying faggots down.

Live in NE Portland. Can confirm this mostly. Also there is a STRONG hatred for police here which honestly as a transplant from the East Coast I do not understand. You have to literally be killing someone or overdosing for them to fuck with you compared to the dumb shit people in cities with more predatory cops can get in trouble for. I see many people get away with complete nonsense here. Also they have a very small police per capita when compared to similar sized cities so I think resources are extremely limited. Once you weed out all the bullshit and sheeple on the left and right here, its honestly a pretty dope city. Media just blows a lot of shit out of proportion IMO....

Protests happen downtown which most people never bother going unless for work. Large majority of people who live here are just going about their lives. You fags just try and exaggerate everything so your pathetic life’s can have some illusion of meaning

Cool my bad. Her dad seems to be a crazy that jumps on both sides probably bi-polar.
Still shows that antifa only jumps on people when they are outnumbered 100/1.
I still havent seen Antifa take on anyone but old people and retards.

Can you point on the doll to where Antifa touched you, user?

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