Why do the Democrats want open borders?

Why do the Democrats want open borders?

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>Why do the Democrats want open borders?
They don't. Nobody does. Nobody ever did. That's the warcry of pro-useless-expensive-wall idiots and anti-brown-people racists.

>They don't.
They do

this is super ignorant
there entire movements of people with the rallying cry of no boarders

lies

Ah yes, the "agree with me or you are a racist" agenda will SURELY work this time

Wrong. Sorry about your brainwashing. Don't worry. History won't remember you as being one of those idiots specifically.

You're an idiot because you dont get it.

DEMOCRATS, as in the people like you and me, are the ones that want open borders because its PC now and that's a good thing all of a sudden. Why is it a good thing? Because the DEMOCRAT elected officials told them it was. They dont actually want open borders, but they want votes, and pretending to care about something is how you do that. So they make up lies like this in order to gain the favor of the public. Republicans do this too. Its red vs blue, in a never ending battle of bullshit.

If you want to find out what your politicians dont actually care about, pay attention to the thing they're most passionate about.

just google "free movement" this is a real political movement

>i say it doesn't exist so its not real

evidince is not on your side

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>open the border
>get mexicans by the thousands
>put them on welfare because they poor as fuck
>design system encouraging people to be on welfare and remain dependent on the government
>now have hundreds of thousands of mexicans on welfare who know they need you to ensure their welfare isn't taken away
>acquire guaranteed votes and never lose another election

Open borders = Democrats completely take over the country = Total control of the people = Welfare State = Introduction to socialist system

Yeah... and all Republicans are white supremacists. See what I did there? I compared one of the Trump Trolls to all Republicans. The fringe are not the majority.

You're not even making sense here. I think you're retarded dude.

Found the foreigner getting fed fake news

Liberals will destroy their own country as longest they win elections

free votes

>when russia is such a broke fag country it feels the need to copy paste the same thread 24/7 on Yea Forums.
Thanks comrade for blowing up your nuclear scientists in your new russian-nigger missile. I'll be happy that it will make another season of Chernobyl.

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>They don't. Nobody does. Nobody ever did. That's the warcry of pro-useless-expensive-wall idiots and anti-brown-people racists.

its like you forgot already that you made a absolute statement

Sounds Russians cant understand

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Germantard here.

>put them on welfare because they poor as fuck
Arent they only egligible for wellfare after living legally in the US after five years?

Not knowing the US-system, I am just curious.

Imagine goyposting and not getting paid for it

So first it doesn't exist and now it's fringe. kys kike

Imagine niggerposting and only getting rubles for it lol.

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Russians dont get the bandwidth to download that lol

Pretty fucking sure that even if Tulsi or Bernie get elected that the mexicans will.be kept out until.they prove they can.sustain an economy similar to Canada's

No.. all the states give IDs and free welfare without proving being a citizen.. AKA portland..

It's a combination of arrogance and deflection. Look at the consequences of immigration:

* more competition for low wage jobs drives wages down

* more competition for affordable housing drives rents up

* immigrants bringing in and having more children leads to a healthier age distribution in the future and thus more working people when we are retired

* the cultural background of many immigrants leads to higher crime rates especially in poor neighborhoods

* the additional diversity in culture, values and religion also increases the likelihood of severe social tensions when large groups have settled (Sweden) because many immigrants don't give a shit about our idealistic fantasies of integration.

* the western world can't possibly take in all immigrants while Africa is producing 50 mio new poor people per year.

"Liberals" are convinced that they are smarter and know better, hence their desire to silence and censor people that dare to think reasonable. This makes them believe that they will always do better than the very bottom of society and thus the negative consequences won't affect them as much.

They need deflection to be able to stay in line with their peers because their peers would reject them for questioning the ideology. Thus they delude themselves into thinking that they advocate for something good and that they are helping poor immigrants. The statistics and evidence of the effects of immigration are crystal clear, but while they scream "science" when they can own someone on climate change, they cry "racist" when they get owned with science on immigration.

The only sustainable solution for immigration is to get the shithole countries out of poverty and war so that their people won't need to leave. But the global banking elite and the CIA warlords which are driven by corporate colonialists make sure that this will never happen. And they use everything money can buy to make sure that the majority of elected officials will not question their power.

>imagine posting a bullet point sack of shit on a volatile permanence board.

I mean, we all know the answer OP is looking for. It's the fucking Jews, bro. Trying to subvert American sovereignty or some Jewish shit

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>Why do a vanishingly small percentage of Democrats want open borders?
FTFY

The democratic party, as an entity, wants more political power, and manipulates immigrants into voting against their oen long-term interests in exchange for getting into the country.
We need stronger borders, but a less retarded immigration process. The ones willing to put effort into that kind of life change will prosper, and more of the lazy and gimmedats are filtered out.

Why do Republicans want closed borders? What are they afraid of? Mass shooters are generally white, Pro Trump supporters.

>You're not even making sense here. I think you're retarded dude.
Did his post seriously go over your head? It was pretty clear, dude.

>mass shooters are trump supporters
besides this being the literal opposite of actual reality, that's a pretty good larp

Dishonest fag is dishonest.

>completely ignores that it takes environmental stresses to make someone snap and shoot people, regardless of mental health
>ignores that half of even reported shooters are self-claimed democrats/liberals
>ignores most shootings happen in densely packed cities with strong democratic leaning.

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It's true, you're just misinformed.

The overwhelming majority, a full 2/3rds of ALL politically-motivated acts of violence in the United States are committed by the right. The right, specifically mass shooters, have killed literal hundreds of people just in the last 3 years.

>the Democrats want open borders

Citation needed

this is just trolling right?

Speaking strictly from an extant and evolutionary perspective, this is unironically true. Homogamy is a fucking plague with humans.

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Yes, it's just trolling, but the majority of Yea Forums actually believes this shit.

They're all either anti-immigration, anti-gay, anti-black.
This is why your retard government jumps straight to blaming video games, instead of the actual fact that these right wing policies are far more influential.

You're wrong and it's hilarous

gonna need that list of trump supporters who were mass shooters then
we'll wait

what's your point? That still means that 99.99..% of whatever ideology never commit any politically-motivated acts of violence.

Do you try to argue that something is wrong because a small number of supporters is violent? That would make leftist ideology wrong as well because they have violent morons as well.

The trouble you run into is by intermixing everyone you gradually homogenize the human gene pool making it more susceptible to pandemic disease.

I mean, El Paso was just a couple of weeks ago, but even besides that, every single politically-motivated death in 2018 was linked to right-wing ideologies, so I don't know what you think your point is.

That doesn't have any effect until the species is at like 80%H, and even then is negligible until it reaches something like 93%.

There's actually a pretty decent write-up about the timeline of global n%H in SciAm a couple of years ago about it.

Statement was mass shooters, not political violence.
Blacks are far more prevalent in mass shootings due to hang activity.
And while whites are more likely to be involved in political shootings the actual political alignment is split fairly evenly. Right wingers are just better at actual kill count.

lolwut? Isn't this the same arguments you hand-wave away against black people and jews? Shut the fuck up you traitor supporting faggot.

Faggot

Voters

Oh I understand that, just saying diversity being a smattering is good, but you still want to keep distinct groups distinct. Just because it isn't an issue NOW doesn't mean it's a good idea to get the ball rolling to that destination.

I think a wall is a waste of money when we could employ more guards for a fraction of the cost.

Every country has customs and requires passports for a reason. Follow the law or rot in a cell.

Also I lean more democratic, but im not a blind puppet

So that's gang activity. You're being disingenuous now. You and I both know you don't give two shits about black people, so let's not tokenize them.

Regardless, here's a few;

Aurora, Colorado, the Sikh temple in Wis., the Manufacturer in Minneapolis, the Connecticut Elementary School, the list is longer than your garbage inclusion of inter-motivated violence vs. mass shootings.

Yea Forums should be closed

They don’t. Op is ignorant. Do more research. After about 10 minutes you’ll realize you’re wrong.

I mean, you're looking at a population >%H of like 20,000,000 out of 7 billion or so for that to be an issue for the whole of humanity.

We'll never, every achieve that, even if every single person from every country started fucking and procreating right now for the next 140 years.

Security is achieved through a triumvirate of things: manpower, technology, and barriers.
If you lack any one of those it falls apart.
Not saying the whole damn thing needs to be a 30 ft Great Wall of Merica but you do need physical barriers to direct people and slow boarder jumpers to allow personnel time to respond.

Anyone who would sacrifice freedom for safety deserves neither.

So is my argument correct and you are wrong about Trump supporters or is it wrong and you are wrong about black people and jews?

> Shut the fuck up you traitor supporting faggot.

Oh I see, you can't counter with reason so you resort to insults.

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Buddy the topic was mass shootings. Nothing else. If it involves 4 or more people being shot it's a damn mass shooting. Just because you were wrong doesn't mean you get to move goal posts around.

Understandable. Still achieveable in far under the budget trump is quoting though

Several of them were self-claimed blues m8, the fuck are you on about

But I'm not sacrificing any of my freedom to secure my nation's boarder. All of my freedom and rights remain intact.

(7,000,000,000x.03 = 210,000,000) / 165 actually, so give or take less than 1.5 million people would have to be Het. There's more people in my city, so yeah, we'll never get to that.

What makes you think your bitch ass deserves an argument? I don't owe a bootlicking protofascist faggot anything, and neither does America.

Eh, that estimate isn't his estimate. That's from actual analysis of various agencies and private groups.
Not really that big of a budget when you think about the land area covered, existing infrastructure that would need to be rebuilt, technology integrations around high traffic zones, and extra personnel.

Name them.

not really. One of them was called left-wing after my MyLife profile was edited after his arrest, but besides that, not a whole lot of fatal encounters on the left.

Republican baseball game shooter
Dayton shooter
ICE detention guy
that's just off the top of my head.

No deaths
No political motive attributed and he killed his own sister
No deaths, it was a molotov that didn't hurt anyone

All the "off the top of your head" either weren't politically-motivated or weren't left wing or didn't kill anyone.

Bad list, guy.

Didn't read the reply chain about deaths specifically. My bad.
I already claimed here
That right wingers are actually effective at it.

"It was like an orange acorn jammed into a wad of cookie dough."

-Professional cumslut Stormy Daniels, private text to friend re; Trump

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>What makes you think your bitch ass deserves an argument?

You don't owe me an answer but by refusing to give one you make it obvious that you can't.

I don't owe a bootlicking protofascist faggot anything, and neither does America.

Joke's one you, I'm all that and you are still dumber than me. Let that sink in...

Your statement about political alignment is statistically, demonstrably incorrect, to almost a 6-to-1 margin.

Well that's just nonsense. Trying too hard, m8.
Why do you hate America so much?

Boss Nass in the flesh.

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>Why do you hate America so much?
Because it starts wars all over the world and exploits people. Why do you?

How many human beings die in "mass shootings" (which are determined wildly differently depending kn the country), vs the constant "gang fights" happening in large dem. cities? We're trying to maximize harm reduction, do thr smart thing and focus on the bigger killer

At the core of if all, their hearts are in the right place. They want a world where all of their fellow man can be happy and healthy. They are blinded by the idea of a utopian world that is impossible. They are ignorant of or unwilling to see the unfortunate reality that not everyone can be on the same playing field, and don't want to acknowledge that sacrifies and tough decisions have to be made.

Your last sentence is so full of shit, lol

they don't. it's just a strawman.

Except they do

We don't...this is like the 100th thread asking...

Why can't Republicans be honest?

Or they just accept the objective reality and aren't scared of brown people for no reason

>Don't address a single thing he said
>REEEEE DRUMPF IS RACIST

wow, nice one dood

you have to stop watching CNN.

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Except you have an entire political party trying to decriminalize illegal immigration, while pushing for free health care for the same said immigrants, while simultaneously calling for lesser penalties for petty theft and drug trafficking, because their pet niggers and spics can't learn how to exist outside of a fucking narco-state, or without being fucking thieves.

Narco-state... you mean narco country!!! goddamn everyone is on shit, and they're prescribed it...

source? why is trump faggot... see pic

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This is the Truest answer in this place. The only reason we woudn't, want open borders/shit. Is because we are cucks of course. Also we ake more money off of other people... and your people.

Nope, my shithole of a state, California, will give them benefits regardless of status or length of time here. This leads to the woman popping out babies and her man working for cash under the table so they can play the system. I am all for cutting benefits and/or watching them harder.

Hell Yeah!! Is that my president fully "deepthroating" a cock? That's the man.

Why is this even bad??

It's gay to suck someone else's dick, even tho i's completely okay to do that now.?

Wow Annon, you went pretty retarded, bet you feel dumb now

Votes

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Diversity necessarily includes people who are so diverse as to be completely incompatible with eachother

Back in the day democrats were pro slavery nowdays those elitist bastards needs brown ilegal people to clean their clogged toilets, raise this kids, protect their sorry asses from violent black people all this by playing a couple of dollars.

More Americans are going right and voting conservative. Dems know this so they are flooding the country with illegals and letting them vote knowing they always vote democrat. They believe they can outnumber Americans by bring more in and out number American citizens. Blue states like commiefornia even let dead people vote and bus voters in from other cities and states where the vote multiple times.

lets see, how many murders have their been in the us in the last three years, huh thats weird there have been way more crimes and murders in general, just straight up murders. Maybe it's the new feeding people bullshit cause they have an agenda ever thought of that no you haven't.

According with your logic inmigrants babies votes.