Should revenge porn be illegal, Yea Forumsros...

Should revenge porn be illegal, Yea Forumsros? I feel like if they criminalize infidelity then doing the same with revenge porn makes sense but it seems like bullshit to make something so mundane a crime.

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Whats more important would be property rights as a person who owns a picture of someone that was given to them or allowed to be taken that picture becomes the property owners property. With this property the property owner should be allowed to do with what ever they want.

Another beautiful point and something I honestly didn't think about because I'm a retard

Who is the woman?

Idk, someone sent it to me but didn't have any more

Laws suppressing "revenge porn" are technically unconstitutional. As an American I have the right to freedom of expression. Who is to say that me expressing myself is not me showing others the art I have been given? A picture is a form of art. Art can very well express oneself even if you are not the creator but merely the current possessor.

Learn about copyrights, fool. The person who appears on the picture is the owner, by the way those "porn revenge" pics normally were taken at a intimacy moment and it belongs to the private scene of that person. Infidelity is considered when a couple break up and the two involved want to legally separate for a judge. I can't compare cheating with porn revenge because the first is the fail of two people and the second is some faggot who have to grow the fuck up, move on and understand you have real mental issues
Tl;dr: you're wrong

2 words
Intimacy right

>make something so mundane a crime.
Mundane? Porn revenge isn't something intrinsic to society or humanity, it needs a very specific components: some 1st 2nd world faggot with internet access, wrong values and a couple parents who consent the little man

It is a crime in some states though...

absolutely not

this is thots trying to undermine free speech/civil rights so they can send nudes to Chad without any consequences, fuck that

Cheating is not the fail of two people, one person could be loving and supporting when lust gets in the way of it for the other person.

Here in Germany is also a crime
My current gf reported his ex for expose her on a german forum lol

It is a crime here, which I why I created this thread. The question is "should it be".

>to Chad
Please those cowards are subhuman beings, every single one of them has real incel problems

My point with this was that it's a selfish decision just like revenge porn, it is neglecting the feelings of your partner just like revenge porn and it is sharing just like revenge porn.

someone who appears in a picture is not the default owner, that is retarded and I am not sure where you got that idea

if someone takes a picture of you in public where you have no right to privacy, you don't own the picture. if you distribute images of yourself, you cannot dictate their later use. you may however be entitled to whatever money might be earned by their use.

That’s why it’s always better to get a pic with no face cuz at the end of the day that ain’t you a jury will agree with you and you can back fire on her if all goes bad and say she sent the nude pic threw text which is illegal in my state no matter what. Can’t send nudes period

So now your talking of a subject appearing in public vs in private.
Let me give you a clue about things like this...
If your grasping for straws, then your probably on the losing side of the argument.

This is America there’s always a loop hole my buddy usto take his gfs to a public spot and take nudes he has a hole folder of them. Let’s say you put a grl that’s not illegal is it I was at a public spot and I took picture of some weird grl nude

>it's a selfish decision
You're right
>it is neglecting the feelings of your partner
Nah, you aren't the partner when you're commiting "porn revenge", why should she care about your feelings lol? You don't care about hers when commiting porn revenge
> it is sharing just like porn revenge
Cheating only can be punished when you're married and you want your things your child and so on.
Fucking incel understand that you are not owner of nobody

what are you even trying to say here? it sounds like the core argument- that it isn't right to limit freedom of speech to save dumb thots from the consequences of their actions- didn't register with you.

those re the cutest little foot claws I've ever did see

>why should she care about your feelings lol? You don't care about hers when commiting porn revenge
No shit, you fucking moron, that's what makes it revenge. She should care about your feelings because you're in a relationship at the time of infidelity. Which is why my point was that I'd understand revenge porn being illegal if cheating was also illegal
>understand that you are not owner of nobody
Nice use of a double negative, I guess I own everybody. Guess what I would own though? The pictures I'd be sending as revenge porn, let's forget about the "privacy of one's home" aspect and say the bitch is an exhibitionist and these pics were taken in public with her consent. I own them, bucko, if I didn't I'd be arrested just for making it clear that I have them.

I think you're grasping for straws, retard

if these images are already covered by copyright, then why do additional revenge porn laws even need to be made?

I can see a reasonable argument that, as the copyright owner, women should be able to make someone stop displaying an image they created. That's even assuming they hold those rights, though.

But the person displaying a nude they sent shouldn't get any different treatment than any other minor copyright violator, just becuase it made the girl sad.

I understand you love philosophy so let me burst your core: your freedom to do anything is only legit only when it doesn't affect negative other people freedom.
My core argument is a simple question so you can understand why you're probably an incel:
>What's more important? Your freedom of speech or other person's intimacy right?
Second won time ago incels
Welcome to XXI century, you can't have internet without evolution you silly monkeys

>She should care about your feelings because you're in a relationship at the time of infidelity
Were you married? Because it sounds like you fucked her for a few weeks and you were yet doing plans about your future kids with her. Did it hurt watch her cheating on you lol? Guess what, may she wasn't and you are a fucking incel with all the emotional issues it requires, may you were just a fwb and you thought you were something more than that. :(
>the bitch is an exhibitionist
Even in a public place, when nobody else is watching those pictures are considered as a the result of a intimacy moment. You're wrong

Your first response is fucking retarded as a whole, I've never been cheated on at all actually. I'm a hypothetical like most people are, you tried to result to savagery because you had nothing to dispute it yet just couldn't wait to respond to the second point. Nice fail, bud. Point is the bitch would clearly have no problem giving pussy to others so why should she care so much?
>as a result of a intimacy moment
Well, what if it's not intimate at all because remember what if she wasn't emotionally invested at all? What if she just pulled that pussy out and I happened to snap a picture? Let's say that this happened in front of others as well, are they as entitled as I am to the pictures because they happened to see her do it?

A guy at my highschool years and years ago sent a cheerleader dick pics. She shared them and they made fun of him for being under-endowed all year. He was a laughing stock at school. Nobody gave a fuck.

Some chicks get their nudes spread by guys they cheated on in revenge on the internet. It's news now and suddenly there are laws against it.

I literally give no fucks because there are cameras on everything and everything connects to the internet. No matter how you try to legislate shit we're eventually all going to be naked on the internet. The main point is that society only gives a fuck when it affects young women that it deems worth defending.

Also, good job when it comes to calling me an "incel" almost directly after calling me a "fwb". Nice to see you stay on track so beautifully.

Completely agreed, I've seen the same thing happen in highschool as well. This dude had videos of him jacking off shared and was also made fun of for being a bit average, word definitely had gotten to the teacher and all yet nobody said anything. A month later a girl got her tit pics shared and the kids who did it were suspended and even talked to by police. Lord knows what happened to him after that.

exactly

people hwo send naked pictures are doing something incredibly stupid

basic sex education should include explicit warnings against sending nudes

but people dumb enough to do it need ot own the consequences

I took your advice and decided to learn about copyrights and found out you're wrong

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the "revenge porn" thing is just another example of women desperately avoiding consequences for their choices

it is absurd, if they want to be treated as equals, they are not entitled to special legal protections to avoid the results of their own behavior

>gf
>his ex

>Your first response is fucking retarded as a whole,
The whole thread is about legal consequences of cheating vs legals consequences of porn revenge.
You're the retard, sir.
>What if she just pulled that pussy out and I happened to snap a picture?
Exhibitionism, is a different story but mostly that person appearing on the pic still has the copyright so stop asking about your crimes

Nobody born as an incel, you have to learn it, some of them were "good guys" sometime ago

unless it is a selfie, in which case they do own it

that said, even if they have copyright, they shouldn't have extra legal protections to save them from being a dumb slut (male or female) and sending nudes

Your freedom to make this statement negatively affected his freedom to be right. Take it back before we sue you

Also I can't tell what's more aggravating- that someone decided to trample on the 1st, or that you not only welcomed it but giddily promoted it. Pathetic.

No the person who took the picture actually has legal ownership and all rights too the picture.

I agree with your last point only. As for the first, the thread isn't about a "vs". It's about whether or not cheating should BOTH have consequences. Your second point though, you didn't answer any of my point at all, what you did was continue to hold me to hypotheticals because you don't have shit to say. It's this simple, dove, it you have nothing to say then just shut the fuck up. You're wasting time trying to have the last response and that's pretty teenage girl of you.

if they share it, it becomes public domain. other people sharing it don't own it but its already out of the box and can be shared continually afterwards.

>just another example of women desperately avoiding consequences for their choices
You're fucking retarded. Revenge porn is equivalent to fucking someone behind a curtain and then revealing the curtain for everyone to see. It's not what the other party signed up for and it's definitely not ok behavior to expose someone's privacy like that, rightfully get punished for that.
That said, it's definitely a double standard in how men and women are treated in this regard.

Copyrights are different between countries but you are misunderstanding the concept because you aren't considering the intimacy right, most of that countries agreed that porn revenge have to be punished. Btw google about international laws ;)
Thanks grammar nazi
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>You're wasting time trying to have the last response and that's pretty teenage girl of you.

Unless they send that picture to someone else, then they give up solitary ownership of that photo without specific instructions that it is copyrighted and she owns the copyright and it is not to be distributed.

i like how there's supposedly some unwritten contract that exists that removes all responsibility from the "victim".
If someone takes of picture of you they can do whatever they want with it. Maybe if it's a hidden camera and you don't know you're being recorded then sure. Otherwise the parties know full well pictures are being taken and should understand what that means.

Point proven yet again, retard. I actually disputed your point on my last response, you on the other hand just had to mention me to once again be a teenage girl. I guess that explains why you're so against revenge porn, huh?

I fuck pussy often than you user
Trust me
Btw she doesn't give a fuck about sharing that pic ;)
Fucking incels

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there’s a simple solution to this:
don’t be a camwhore and then cry when your pussy pics somehow end up on the front page of instagram like you had no idea it would happen

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No, once you recieve a picture it's yours. Sluts want to be shared if they send a pic

Nice bait

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If A sends a nude picture to B, A is no longer the sole owner of that picture. If A did not register copyright of the pic, then A has given up sole ownership by giving it away.

Intimacy right, that's the point you're missing

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Not him, but that's not remotely how copyright works. I think revenge porn laws are playing whack-a-mole against the inevitable given the nature of modern technology, but there's no need to make bad arguments.

>there's no need to make bad arguments.
Not him but incels can't afford a good argument because they are wrong

So you're saying that for copyright to be legally acknowledged, there is no need for registration? Check up on your copyright laws.

You automatically have copyright simply by producing something. Registering your copyright allows you to sue for court costs on top of damages.which is why it's usually best practices.

Not that user
>So you're saying that for copyright to be legally acknowledged, there is no need for registration?
No, there is no need, USA laws aren't a international convention

it matters when employers will drop you at the drop of a hat for it
until workers can unionize and or have better protections revenge porn can ruin a career

What if it's not revenge and you just wanna share?

No fun unless the homie's get some

What intimacy right. Is that an actual legal thing? She nude, my camera, my battery, powered by my electricity, my memory card, captured by my finger on the shutter button. If she doesn't make me sign a waiver that she owns these pictures, then they are mine to do with as I please.

>revenge porn can ruin a career
Indeed how many people, boys and girls, have suicide because of this ?
Then I have to read how all /bros supporting some summerfag who is depressing. Fucking crap

New to thread, fuck reading it all.
The person who is in the photo inherently has the property rights to that photo, unless they explicitly sign or state otherwise. Being given an image does *not* constitute the right to then use that image. You have been given permission to view, but permission to share has to be explicitly given.

US law is very clear on this when it comes to pictures you take of yourself.

HER/HIS body
HER/HIS face
Who gives a fuck about your sd card?
Lol tell that to the judge

Copyright is not legally accepted unless it is registered. Why do you think Pepsi don't have a Coca Cola logo?

Tell the judge about copyright law.

I'm not your lawyer, son, afford one with your parents money

>Learn about copyrights, fool
You first

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my girl total exposure. 24yo !!

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We're talking about porn revenge not about soda.
Learn something more by your own instead of making us waste our time

Read it

We are talking about copyright kid. It's a legal thing required to prove ownership and rights.

so if your gf fucks a chad ? then what you gonna do? fuck a girl and post ist online? then what? she can do about 5 porns a day with every man she is talking to while you can only find 1 a week at best

how would you define revenge pron?

Kek
You even know what "porn revenge" means, don't you?

I read it. It's incorrect. The person who takes the image is the copyright holder. US copyright law is very clear about this. The subject of the image does not own the image. For example, a fashion model does not own runway photos, the photographer does.

Is it revenge porn or just sharing photos that you took and own?

i think deepfake and other advances in photo manipulation will make it a non issue. once you can see anyone you care about naked at anytime, the novelty will wear off and/or it'll be easy to dismiss any leaked nudes as a fake

It's completely correct, that user unlike you knows about law ;)
Both

And I AM IRONMAN

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How can it be both? If I took a picture of a building, would the architect and builders own the picture? Would they have a legal right over my picture? If I buy a can of Coke, can I not share that with someone else unless the legal department of Coca Cola give me the go-ahead?

Lmfao. and no replies to this one, because they got toasted.

Waiting for a legal definition of Intimacy Right.

Porn is more unhealthy than cigarettes.

Sincerely, taking pictures of buildings it's not the point of this thread, if you want to learn about it just do it bro
I'm responding to every faggot about their legal questions about "porn revenge" . Based
Privacy right, intimacy right

Wow. Never seen an "i've never had sex in my life" post before. Sending nudes is actually what NORMAL people do. plenty of teens do it fuck, this is Yea Forums, some oldfags can vouch for that. Grow up kid. Go tell Tinder investors they need to go fuck themselves, because people do not use phones or the internet, and CERTAINLY dont share anything sexual there, that they'd want privacy over.

wtf is this even "warning from sending nudes"

How is it privacy if she is posing in front of a camera and has not made me sign an ownership waiver?

Could you give more details?

You literally said a dude jacked off, didn't specify if ANYONE but him distributed it, didn't mention him reporting it to ANYONE. and you're butthurt nothing happened.

Then, a girl sends a pic of her tits, a guy shares it, and she can tell, she only sent that specific pic to one guy, and went to authorities for action.


and you're mad? Could you clear that up? I'm not seeing the "they didn't investigate on the child behalf because they're sexist!!!"

Do these kids now still work? Just tried.

>Sincerely, taking pictures of buildings it's not the point of this thread, if you want to learn about it just do it bro
The point I am making, is that I own that picture. I can share it if I want.

You're wrong, you don't own s shit, she/he owns her/his pics. But you will the owner of a legal corrective punishment lol

International convention

>woman

For international convention she is the owner*

But in regards to this, if it's a picture of somones privates, it's just illegal to distribute.

What's wrong with that.

>is it really even porn guys? i mean come on. in some places, they dont consider it porn. bad law!

You're totally missing the point of ownership of the photographer. How may family photos do your family own? Who owns them? You? The other family members? The photographer?

>The person who appears on the picture is the owner,
False.
The same way a news reporter can record people without their permission.

see

Explain Playboy, Hustler, etc.

You're missing the points of the international convention who gives the person who appears on the picture the ownership of it, and privacy rights, legal laws and so on
Yes but only can show her/his face if s/he is a public interest person. News usually don't post "porn revenge" btw
We're talking about people you mentally handicapped person

Why has no one pointed out that OPs pic is CP?

Posting anyones nudes without their consent should be illegal, yes.

What a cuck

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Christianity was a mistake.

>You're missing the points of the international convention who gives the person who appears on the picture the ownership of it, and privacy rights, legal laws and so on
What privacy rights? What legal laws? Someone gets naked and allows someone else to take photos, the photographer is the owner of those pictures Period.
>We're talking about people you mentally handicapped person
So what is the legal copyright law that differentiates between people and buildings as far as photos are concerned?

Nothing new on here. Mostly every "shouldn't share" thread has a 15-16 years old girl appearing on it

You're missing the whole point of ownership of the pictures.

Local laws*
Sorry
Lmao

How would they enforce it? They wont be able to make it illegal to film someone with their consent... and publishing it online? what if it leaks on accident by an unknown publisher?

Local laws? What local laws?

What point ? The person who appears on the picture is the owner of it, international convention, assume it. Fuck your USA paparazzi laws
Every country can have their own laws about copyright and distribution

She is 13 of age...

Also, what international convention? The UN committee on camwhores?

Per US law, I take the picture, I own the rights to do whatever the fuck I want with it unless I sign the rights to that picture to someone else.

I had to pay my wedding photographer extra to get the rights to my own wedding photos because I didn't want them used in his promotional materials.

Dunno where you live, but that is not how it works in the US.

And I think we're been pretty clear as a nation that we don't give a fuck about international law.

lol britcuck get fucked

My camera, battery, memory card. My picture.

And now you talk about national laws. What are your local laws?

Doesn't work

Lmao no some old as fuck international convention (XIX-XX century)
I meant USA is completely different shit: each state has it own laws about porn revenge

Sorry, missclicked

Sorry missclicked again

So tell us what the law is in your state. I will rip it to shreds.

In my country you even have to erase all the illegal content in front of a judge lol

taking pics of your girlfriend is not illegal. You must be talking about spy photos.

We're talking about "porn revenge"
Taking nudes is something everybody has done before, the problem is when it becomes a way to harass your ex trying to make her not forget how pathetic you really are

What about the back-ups you haven't told them about? How is it "revenge" if you are the owner of those pictures?

Porn Revenge is a stupid way to fuck up your life even more in my honest opinion, isn't it easier to move on? YOU ARE NOT THE OWNER of those pics and that's the main reason it's illegal to share them

Kansas for example, allows porn revenge.
Anons can correct me if I'm wrong, not sure

How am I not the owner of those pictures?

1. Should it be illegal to post someones nudes without their consent?

Yes.
If a girl dates a guy for two years and sends him a couple nudes during that time, then they have a hard fallout and in his rage he spreads her nudes everywhere, that is wrong. You are literally ruining someones life. If it was you in that position i'm sure you would have a different opinion. The only people that think it should not be illegal are the salty exes.

That depends on the country/state where you took those pics but as I said, there are also an international convention about the copyright ownership

Or perhaps, the girl shouldn't spread her nude pictures about, therefore giving up all rights to ownership of them.

MY CAMERA, BATTERY, MEMORY CARD, MY MOVIE, MY SONG

goodluck in piracy court with that when you're caught in the theater, brainlet

So any paparazzi or photographer cannot sell "their" pictures? By the way, please post the International Convention about copyright ownership.

Lol that's not how copyright works
Move on
Maybe she deserves someone better as much as you have to improve yourself

I think you're in the wrong thread.

I don't have it here
But you can ask on /qa :)

Stupid faggot. Ever left your basement and to an event where it, flat out, says you will be recorded for promotional purposes and you dont own the copyright? Being the subject of a picture doesn't make you the default owner. So before telling people to learn about copyright, hows the fuck about you go learn it first? Fool.

If you have something and don't copyright or patent it legally, and then give it away, it no longer belongs to just you.

source on OP?

>current gf
>his ex

...what?!

fuck off kid.

>gf
>his ex

Just another day in krautistan it seems

>So any paparazzi or photographer cannot sell "their" pictures?
If " "their" pictures" are from someone famous/of public interest , and that person is in a public place, yes
Bye lazy faggot
Her* omg keked so much to this . Blame the Yea Forums traps threads