Hey /b lets have an intelligent conversation about hydrogen.
>Did you know that scientists recently discovered how to mass produce hydrogen on a large scale from the waste products of old oil refineries.
Its finally happening a renewable energy source capable of powering electric cars without large heavy cumbersome lithium battery's.
The future is lightweight vehicles powered by electric motors and hydrogen fuel cells.
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Hydrogen is primarily produced by steam reforming of natural gas. Other major sources include naphtha or oil reforming of refinery or other industrial off-gases, and partial oxidation of coal and other hydrocarbons. ... Steam reforming can also be used to produce hydrogen from other fuels, such as coal and oil products.
>don't mind me just motoring about atop a gigantic tank of compressed rocket fuel
>hydrogen
It’s the ultimate meme. You’ll never get more energy out than you put in. It’s too reactive to ever be found in an elemental state. It’s energy density is complete shit compared to batteries and hydrocarbons. Completely useless for anything but a vacuum stage of a rocket to leave earth’s orbit.
Yes user But you're not shooting to the moon on 10 ton rocket you have a tiny tank and are able to go hundreds of miles with your light weight aluminum car.
>inb4 patents bought by a corporation and technology is never heard of again
you're wrong fren
According to the team, which unveiled its research at the Goldschmidt Geochemistry Conference in Barcelona, the method could produce hydrogen at between $0.10-0.50 per kilo, compared with the current production cost of around $2 per kilo.
"Low-cost hydrogen from oil fields with no emissions can power the whole world using mostly existing infrastructure," Grant Stem, CEO of Proton Technologies, which is commercialising the extraction method, told AFP. "This is the silver bullet for clean energy and clean climate." Steam added that the technology has the potential to supply Canada's entire electricity requirement for the next 330 years.
how's the volatility compared to natural gas or methane? wouldn't any of those including hydrogen, be better for home heat or energy production and have cars still have batteries of some sort? why not have sections of road that can recharge vehicles that go over them? honestly though if the world worked together we could have vast areas of solar panels/wind turbines up and have power running to the whole world constantly.
Batteries are not a renewable resource lithium is a finite metal once its gone its gone. Hydrogen fuel cells are made from copper and nickle completely recyclable and getting better every day. Advanced fuel cell technology and carbon nano tubes are the way research should be heading.
you can make batteries with activated carbon from hemp, which is renewable.
that's gay. i want a diesel engine mean machine
You Sir are getting it.
Far out man that way when your battery is smoked like you can smoke your battery man.
and, in the end you can just use the carbon material for a soil amendment, to help the crops, and even reduce fertilizer/water usage, all while being pretty carbon neutral.
Just be aware that hydrogen isn't an energy SOURCE, it's just energy STORAGE.
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No shit Sherlock that's what we want to store energy for later use. We don't need constant energy thats wasteful we are looking to conserve energy for long term storage and use.
That’s a fantastic argument
>how's the volatility compared to natural gas or methane?
It is the most volatile gas. It is incredibly difficult to contain for any period of time which would make it useful.