Because /k/ is fucking useless for this kind of thing and the internet is filled to the brim with propaganda and bullshit
Why in the ever living FUCK are civilian market AR's more reliable than US army/navy/air force M4's? What in the FUCK is exactly the problem? Why in the ever living McNiggerFuck are my tax dollars being used to buy things that are objectively worse and more expensive than things I can buy with my own damn money?
pic related, a failure to extract.
I'm a civilian fag. My friends and family who are 11 series or former had no complaints about their M4's. Civilian or military side.
I'm prior service. As with anything else...the givernment will try to patch ANYTHING up with superglue and duct tape.
The civilian sector doesn't buy in bulk which means that our prices are higher, however, the quality is higher because they look at each civilian purchase as a different customer.
When the military buys 4000 rifles, they won't care if 20 - 30 of them are fucked up or even defective. The contracts that the government signs with manufacturers allow a margin of error for a certain number of products ordered.
Hope this sheds some light on the situation for you user.
but if it's not clear, just under half of the soldiers returning from Afghanistan or Iraq experienced malfunctions. that's out of 2600, more than enough for a representative sample size, men, nearly 1300 ended up with stopped guns, fag
Milspec isn't a goal. It's bottom tier shit. Basically it meets the minimum standards for cost and quality desired by the military. The civilian world demands high quality regardless of cost.
>Why in the ever living FUCK are civilian market AR's more reliable than US army/navy/air force M4's?
Because you're most likely comparing a factory new AR-15 to a decade old m4 that has seen countless retards abusing it.
might have to do with m4 being fully automatic as well
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also some of the older ones with burst fire lowers are prone to malfunction
US ARMY 11B in '08. The weapons we had were not bad (Ours were manufactured by Colt), but my civilian AR is superior.
This is basically the story, but it also comes down largely to your branch. For instance, Marines get the old stuff the army doesn't use anymore. So when I was training with an M4 in 2008, Marines were actually deploying to the middle east with M16A2s. Moreover, people seem to forget the military uses cheaper ammunition.
This component is anecdotal and purely speculative, but other branches that don't see combat also don't always have great weapons training. So a lot of the time the firearm is blamed for someone who doesn't know how to properly clean or lubricate it. Whereas, if a civilian is dumping $1k on a rock River LAR-15 A2 National Match grade rifle, they probably know how to clean it and what ammunition works well with it.
Yeah but that's also representative of the conditions you're putting the weapon under. Civilian ARs are not being used in sandstorm in blazing heat with surplus ammunition. Consumer electronics (like computers) frequently malfunction within a year during deployment just because of the sheer amount of sand they get in them.
>Why in the ever living McNiggerFuck are my tax dollars being used to buy things that are objectively worse and more expensive than things I can buy with my own damn money?
Those political campaigns aren't going to pay for themselves.
>The civilian sector doesn't buy in bulk which means that our prices are higher, however, the quality is higher
user, have you looked into buying an AR lately? or checked torture tests for those AR's? just recently a PSA freedom series, which I think runs about $350, passed an AK torture and reliability test. as well as a S&W M&P Sport II ran a F/A gauntlet and survived 800+ rounds nonstop before failure. there was also another recent test done on another budget AR from bravocompanyUSA, their BCM is still running after 5k+ without cleaning.
( Same user who was US ARMY 11B ). You've also got to consider civilian companies have been mass producing ARs for like 10+ years now so the market is saturated. You can get a very reliable AR 15 for like $400.
That's not a failure to extract, the round is still in the casing. It's a failure to properly feed. It could be from an improperly seated machine from the look of it
Guns are overrated, unregulated and proving extremely dangerous to society, gun culture is utterly retarded. Keep giving us reasons to ban them.
I only ever had an m4 jam on me in auto, never in semi. Along with quality standards and age that others are saying, I think this is why.
*improperly seated magazine
It was loaded and they tried to reload
ok bootlicker
Gotcha, I should have expanded the image, I would have seen the round in the chamber
It's definitely a failure to extract, as the old shell casing is still chambered as it attempted to chamber another round.
because military weapons have been used thousands upon thousands more times vs virgin civilian shit.