1. Being gay is a choice that is not beneficial or healthy by any means, homosexual activities are completely unnatural and because they are a dangerous and risky practice they should not be celebrated or something to be proud of.
2. Marriage between two same sex partners is hypocritical because marriage is a religious practice, and there are no religions that have ever allowed marriage between two same gendered individuals in the entire history of mankind.
3. There is no way to legitimately change your gender because your sex is determined by your chromosomes which cannot be altered in any way shape or form, therefore transgenderism is technically a mental illness because it is a scewed perception of what the reality is.
4. 90% of individuals who take on risky botched surgeries to change their identity will not lead full healthy lives and are actually becoming a huge drain on resources that would be better put towards curing life threatening illnesses and diseases.
5. Humans can only have two genders, identifying as something else is beyond reality, because even individuals who are intersex by birth can only produce one set of functioning reproductive parts.
People who get a sex change are all fun and happy until the 40% suicide rate kicks in
Brayden Powell
6. LGBTQ people have higher rates of suicide than Jews suffering in the holocaust, the argument that they are depressed because of bullying is invalid.
7. LGBTQ people have 60% higher rate of abusing hardcore drugs than the majority of the population.
8. Most LGBTQ people in positions of power in the US Senate and Congress were only elected based on their victim status.
9. More LGBTQ people are bullies as compared to being victims of bullying by up to 70%.
10. It doesn't matter how well a transgendered faux woman passes, sexual relations with him by another man is still homosexuality.
Charles Walker
1. Drinking soda is a choice that is not beneficial or healthy by any means. Straight couples have anal sex and I don't see many people upset about that.
2. Marriage is recognized by the government and therefore is a government institution and is separate from religion.
1-5 Just let people live their lives how they want to. Everyone is free to make their own choices and decide what is best for themselves. Also that 40% suicide rate is mostly cause of people like you. Just sayin
see Suicide rates are higher than Jews during the holocaust and blacks during slavery, that has been repeatedly debunked.
Chase Phillips
I find it hard to believe that accurate data exists of suicide rates of the Jews and slaves. Nowadays everything is written and recorded. I doubt some plantation owner would care to write down that some slave necked himself. And why would the Nazis care if some jew turned up dead
Robert Hernandez
Is being this person making your life better?
Dominic Fisher
I don't think this walking shit deserves even a right to life! They succefully dragged our culture into gutter of moral decay. We need a god damn payback for that!
>ad hominem attack why don't you build a straw man while you're ar it
Ryder Morales
I think you might be missing a brain. I said that suicide rates for fags are high because of people that say they are abominations to nature and muh god
Kayden Harris
See a bullshit argument, make fun of a bullshit person.
Aaron Hall
You're using the word fag and you think we're the problem, yeah okay closet homophobe
Noah Price
He gave a good argument you just didn't care to retort intelligently
Levi Russell
He was talking about offal meatballs you stupid piece of shit.
Adam Flores
Rambling about people needing to die because of taliban style morals should not be your idea of a good argument. No wonder you people are only ever laughed at by mainstream society.
Jordan Rodriguez
It probably is. Rolling over and constantly accepting the degeneracy of the current leftist movements is seriously harmful to society. All these feminist, lgbt and marxist movements are a sign of the degradation of western society. Sitting idly by as your culture and country go to ruins is idiotic. Kys trans faggot
Dominic Fisher
>mainstream society.
Benjamin Hill
I'm actually gay. I'm not the one scrutinizing people for their life choices. People need to chill and just let each other live their lives.
Cooper White
Oh go live in Afghanistan you puritan shitbird, see how enforcing those morals works out for ya.
Henry Richardson
Preferable to a society that funds and commercializes genital mutilation, the only saving grace for western society is muslims executing all the faggots
John Gomez
Didnt mean to quote yoy
Easton Perry
When did you realize you were a closeted self hating homosexual?
Carter Phillips
Gay is not a real thing. Sodomy and mental illness is.
Ayden Clark
>Being gay is a choice Wrong
>Marriage between same sex partners is hypocritical
It's a human construct, humans may modify, and there are actual legal ramifications and benefits to being married.
>Chromosomes X and Y are not static. There are variants of each and they can interact in strange ways. Male and female brains are different. If you're a Jordan Peterson fan you know that. If you understood genetics and psychology, you'd know it wouldn't take much for a brain to develop a certain way that may not seem right.
>90% Citation needed but also I agree surgery is a little much.
>Two genders
Agreed. Starting to invent shit is way overstepping a line. But I'm also positive those people aren't trannies. They're narcissistic and found a source of attention.
Hudson Jenkins
Deflection and projection. Just admit the fact that you're mentally ill and should (for the good of humanity) kill yourself
Adrian Moore
/thread
Nathan Robinson
Was it during that Bad Neighbours movie? Or right after you cum in your trap threads?
Ayden Roberts
The homosexual are mentally ill and should be put in asylums.
There is no reason for anyone to be homosexual by choice. We need to cleanse the gene pool by separating all homosexuals from the sexually correct people.
Juan Wilson
Being gay is a choice. At least for some people. The problem with saying that is retards will say >choose not to be gay then faggot But I chose to stop pursuing woman cause men make me happier. And happiness and freedom of choice are good things right?
Ethan Diaz
They use the word 'sex' for what you're using for gender there. They use the word gender for the expression. So hermaphrodites aside no one is disagreeing that there's only two sexes. Its just dictionary semantics twisted to make people look insane.
Ethan Turner
>sexually correct people only missionary position for the sole purpose of procreation am I right user?
Alexander Diaz
Honestly, to some extent i wish i was gay because women are a fucking hassle. Unfortunatly the mere thought of sexual intercourse with men makes me cringe.
Maybe you should stop being so defensive of the fact that you're mentally ill and absolutely disgusting
Jason Roberts
No, the joy of sex distracts you from the glory of God. You must only jerk off onto paddle pop sticks and have her insert them into herself in the dark.
Henry James
>God Go to sleep grandpa
Juan Hill
Wait, weren't you trying to tell me being gay was a choice?
Luis Watson
f fag
Dominic Hernandez
Be fruitful and multiply. Don't be fruity and blow a guy.
Mason Jenkins
Why are gays so disgusting to you?
Joseph Morgan
Shouldn't there be some halfwit that drifts in and actually believes this shit by now? I feel like 100% of posters in here are just fucking around and trolling.
Jason Stewart
Moar Gaslighting DO NOT REPLY LET IT DIE
Landon Garcia
It is a choice. Based on being mentally unstable. Gays don't really disgust me. The thought of being gay does. Trannies do disgust me though
Jose Thomas
Mentally unstable? I would love to see your qualifications.
Levi Morgan
1. I'm not gonna answer that. It's a bait. We all know this argument is bullshit and I don't know who you are trying to lie to.
2. Times are changing and so is our culture. It's more inclusive now. Move on, old man.
3. Haven't you heard about body dysphoria and about sex reassignment surgery which helps transgender people change ti their preferred gender?
4. This is not an argument against LGBT. Literally any botched surgery is dangerous and there is a high chance something will be fucked up in patient's body.
5. You CLEARLY forgot about the difference between sex and gender.
Owen Williams
HEIL HITLER
Oliver Fisher
Go back to Tumblr faggot
Aaron Thomas
If you're gay, you're gay. Only secretly gay people are jealous of those who are not afraid to show it. And for those of you who dislike gay people (I'm not gay myself) but fuck you, you literally browse Yea Forums and you probably look at all those dick rate threads or lollies threads you closet faggot. Gay people, you gay it up. But dont EVER judge me for not treating you like you deserve all the attention for being gay, I will spit on your bitchass face.
Blake Watson
Anal sex isn't that weird for straight couples. A relationship with a man is more chill. More sex, and less dumb shit. Wouldn't it be better if your partner WANTED to suck your dick.
Eli Hall
I hate tumblr. It sucks. Been there for like a week and quit.
Carson Sanders
I mean, he's right. By virtue of the fact that marriage is granted by legislation, it should be separate from religion. Doing otherwise would be discriminatory practice.
Either the state relieves itself from governing marriage, or marriage has no boundaries to sexual orientation by confines of established law (person to person of legal age).
You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Luke Harris
don't get me wrong, i don't care for queers. but just take a look of a small portion of the unnatural degeneracy that straight people are into: >fucking children >foot fetish >cartoon females >wearing diapers >roleplaying >sado-machosism >rape-play >cuckolding >groupsex >swinging fuck lgbt+ but also fuck all degenerate subhmans
Logan Perez
So you're suggesting that i need a Phd to understand basic biology?
>anal sex isn't that weird for straight couples Yeah. For men who are submissive, closet faggots and can't find a better way to please their woman
John Robinson
all of this is irrelevant.
they only thing that is being argued about when it comes to "unequal rights" for lgbtq is marriage, and marriage is defined and has always been defined as the union between a man and a woman. there is religious AND evolutionary reasoning for marriage to be defined this way.
arguing that it's unequal because you want to have it some way that's different from what everyone else is doing is retarded.
you don't have to be married to have a fulfilling live long relation with someone of the same or opposite sex so nothing is even being withheld.
the only thing to really be discussed is how the government views these relationships in relation to taxes.
Juan Richardson
Of all of those, I only have the foot fetish. In a way I view feet and hands to be about the same. How is a footjob a fetish when a handjob is not?
Gavin Rogers
Group sex and swingers? C'mon. You can't tell me you've never wanted a threesome with two bitches thirsty for cock...
Levi Butler
If you're going to talk about neurobiology sure.
Grayson Thomas
Lol, spot the guy who's never been in a relationship.
Asher Thomas
Yall are some squares. Loosen up and try something new. Unless you're scared you might like it
Jaxson Scott
>marriage is defined and has always been defined as the union between a man and a woman. there is religious AND evolutionary reasoning for marriage to be defined this way. So what? What about polygamy? Also, more than marriage is at issue, there's people who live together for 25 years, shunned by their families, then when one is dying, the other isn't allowed to see them because 'only family and spouses are allowed'. Then the family eats their will alive on the grounds that the person who stuck with them isn't a 'real' life partner.
What am i doing? None of you cunts ever listen, you arrive with heads full of shit and just dribble it into the interwebs for easy endorphins.
Jason Thomas
polyamory is just a fancy way of calling people whores
Brandon Myers
A fetish is something you can't get aroused without, a peccadillo is something you quite enjoy. For me, a busty asian in black lingerie is my kryptonite, but i can have sex without any of those factors present. A fetishist is a person with special needs, like trolling and lolita, it's a word that has been used wrong for so long it means nothing.
i somewhat agree but i bet you haven't really looked into it. it's not simply that "marriage is defined and has always been defined as the union between a man and a woman". it is LITERALLY a word that means "to acquire a woman for offspring". only a virile man can acquire a woman to make babies, so only a man can get "married". i guess all prepositions aside in use of the word, like whether the man is "married" "by" the woman or that the woman "was" "married" by the man, etc, the etymology is that it comes from proto-indo european "mari" which means "woman". it does NOT mean "union between a man and a woman", it means "to get a woman" and only one side does that, and it is implied based on the time period that the reason to "get a woman" is to create offspring. at the time, men would acquire a woman not to "netflix and chill" but to create children to work on the farm, etc.
"gay marriage" is an oxymoron/doesn't make sense in english. laws are written in english and must be interpreted in english. the only reason they legalized it was because of all the extra systems--specifically insurance and employer benefits--and how letting same-sex couples "marry" actually puts more money into the system for everyone else. it's actually a scam.
Adrian Hughes
it seems you're talking about how society views lgbtq and not how the law does.
Noah Jenkins
Ive literally been in dozens of relationships. You're suggesting that because im disgusted by faggot behaviour, i must be a virgin? Talk about flawed logic. Not that I'd 3xpect any better from a cock smoking homo. Isn't sex about a) procreation b) doing something both people are comfortable with
I'm a square because i dont feel don't feel comfortable with taking something in the ass? By that logic, you're a square for not being attracted to women. Trust me, its fun
Luis Watson
So what’s more risky about gay sex than straight sex?
Robert Barnes
Yep, Yea Forums chad, been in at least 24 relationships, spends his weekends sitting online complaining about gay people. Adds up.
Alexander Wood
Anal sex is 18x more receptive of contracting HIV/ other std's. Would be nice if you faggots at least educated yourselves
Connor Morales
When democracy dies, its last stage is to be tolerant of everything no matter how vile before being replaced by a tyrant.
Lincoln Russell
Just wear a condom and get tested, retard.
Jason Torres
Or maybe I'm living in a country that is infected by political correctness and this is one of the few places i can openly speak i mind. Not that i have anything to prove to you, faggot. Get more brainwashed please
Carson Diaz
As if faggots are concerned with safety. With their fucky fucky apps and degenerate behaviour
Angel Robinson
>degenerate behaviors Uses Yea Forums
Daniel Powell
Not hard to see why no one wants to stick around you for very long.
Henry Price
Have you not seen the amount of straight hook up apps?
James Stewart
I'm not denying it. But you've spent your entire life doing just that. You literally won't accept the fact that you need professional help, being a faggot is a mental illness.
Joshua Myers
I'd love it if there was some straight equivalent of grindr. They could probably call it tindle or something. But alas, like you said, straight people aren't into things like that.
Adrian Reed
Don't argue with the mentally ill. Build concentration camps.
Colton Phillips
Kek
Aaron Price
"These people don't deserve human rights." "Why do they kill themselves so much." Huh
Brody Hernandez
I'm in a 4 year long relationship, we leave politics at the door. Same sex relationships fall apart at a much faster rate than opposites.
Might you show them this thread, point out your posts and show us reaction images?
Owen Parker
>this Unfortunatly it's a seriously difficult task to open the eyes of the delusional. These people are complete victims of the media and can't look at facts/ research
Gavin Lee
There a third column for amount of abuse received? I don't think that setting column is quantifying 'tolerance' too well.
Asher Rogers
Sure, tinder is a hookup app but women are more careful and prudent, they don't tend to go into a public bathroom and suck a guys dick the first time meeting them.
William Butler
You cant have a properly functioning society if you let people do what ever the fuck they want.Shit doesnt work like that.you faggots are an abomination and a disease.You ruin societies and breed degeneracy.You are products of extreme perversion and you have no place in the gene pool.You deserve the chechnya tretatment.
John Lewis
second one starts good and slowly become shit, the others are fine
Ethan Ross
Why the fuck would i? I don't owe you shit, faggot
Parker Baker
I like that you chumps cherry pick fringe stats from right wing groups to confirm your own world views, think that you're good at research and think everyone else is brainwashed. The lack of self awareness is adorable.
Jason Cruz
Implying gey men can't do protection
Logan Campbell
You're clearly not very good looking. What the fuck kind of images are you using?
I think its hilarious you're hiding your weird little homophobia crap. Acting like leftist society is keeping you down because wanna be part of the oppression olympics too.
Nathaniel Jackson
60% of gays have a criminal record
Levi Stewart
>open the eyes of the delusional That's a product of our reality which is a fractal duality. You live by God's law of truth or the lies of flawed perception.
Carson Perry
78.9% of you is stupid.
Logan Nguyen
I like that faggots and libtards buy into everything mainstream media tell them, without looking into it further
Mason Fisher
I INVOKE MAGIC SPACE MAN!
Nicholas Baker
I have 1000+ matches on tinder and 90% of the time they write first
Does your lady find it sexy when you sit around an anime image board complaining about gay people?
Blake Torres
That's capitalism ya dingus
Ryder Adams
I always base my opinion on several sources. Ironically you talk about clinton like she's some kind of saviour when she is potentially one of the most corrupt politicians in the world. Are you JIDF or just a victim of their brainwashing?
Gabriel Hughes
Why wouldn't she? It's a public service. Accept this socialism.
Cooper Bennett
1) being gay is not a “choice”
2) marriage is not between a man and a woman and there are plenty of religions that recognize same sex marriages even in the Catholic Church.
3). Sex is not gender. Had you past basic biology you would know the difference
4) BS!
5) see number 3.
Stay mad neo nazi
Julian Thomas
>Being gay is a choice
No need to read further, sperg detected.
Nathan Turner
My lady finds it sexy that im opinionated, and stick to my opinion. That won't change based on your feelings, but rather data and studies that support your faggotry. Unfortunatly there are none. There's probably been hundreds of studies that get buried because it doesn't fit the political agenda
One degenerate person doesn't define an entire gender. Talk about prejudice
Parker Collins
72% of gays carry at least one strain of herpes
Christopher Torres
Yes goyim, you can't resist sin. Give in to degeneracy.
Dylan Brown
Lol you're on a site that's known for degeneracy. You're a faggot, just like me and everyone else here. Get off your high horse.
Leo Cruz
This is so sad
Easton Scott
>studies don't confirm my opinion, just invent a conspiracy theory about them being buried! >cheque please!
Chase Richardson
Its a fact. OP sucks dick but he doesn't chose to be gay.
Henry Baker
Sure. If the rabbit hole is logic, common sense and disillusionment
Jonathan Bailey
So she doesn't know. Oh God I wish I could see your relationship disintegrate when she finds out.
Cooper Evans
NIGGER FAGGOT
Dominic Cruz
>One degenerate person doesn't define an entire gender. Yes and the same thing can be applied with any gender.
Anthony Brooks
I can admit that im degenerate. You seem to think that you're a beacon of light because you like sucking dick
Isaac Moore
B8 harder
Kayden Cruz
Why? Because i proved you wrong?
Cameron Bailey
The laughter isn't because people think you're funny.
Oliver Evans
38% of Americans according to the World health organization have fucked your mother.
Dylan Rogers
There are actually studies confirming nearly everything i believe, most just don't make it to mainstream media because they get underfunded/ blackballed. I wish you would apply the same passion you have to being a faggot, to actually doing research past buzzfeed and nytimes
Luis Phillips
Can you prove it?
Austin Morgan
I see that faggots are tryin to be funny as well
Andrew Price
Ah yes. >let me pile 10000 women asking for sex non gay grindr >do you believe I'm not gay yet?
Noah Butler
>My lady finds it sexy >My lady Yeah fuckin right
Jonathan Price
I am sure you get your studies from the same places antivaxxers do. You are a footnote on history.
James Butler
She has a basic grasp of where i stand politically, and for the most part she agrees. We just dont discuss politics in our household because it's destructive
Gabriel Bailey
one time, when i was getting lots of dvds from blockbuster through the mail, i got something called "meth". i expected a disturbing meth documentary. instead, it was a documentary about stupid faggots that liked meth. ultimately, it would make faggots just want to do meth and have gay orgies. it was very, very gay and accepting of being gay. it was awful.
anyway, one line stuck with me, that the guy who had gotten HIV and was addicted to ecstasy explained that "porn was playing 24/7" and when they got together, they got as sick and "wrong" as possible. the line was "we wanted to see how WRONG we could be."
faggots get off on doing the WRONG thing; like knowing that they're not fucking the RIGHT way.
Brayden Torres
Heh... That explains it then
Mason Jackson
I was using the same lingo ironically as that faggot. Holy fuck you're stupid
Jace Morris
I hear ya, I know for a fact I'm space adventurer Dick Thunderballs and I've fucked every woman on the planet twice but EVERY single time they do a godamn study on it universities pull the plug and go back in time to wipe the scientists' existence.
Noah Adams
Several clinical studies have shown that homosexuality is the body's natural response to extreme, chromosomal damage. It is assumed that this benefits society by ensuring the homosexual doesn't pass the damaged genes to the offspring.
Oliver Powell
Why are you faggots are so stubborn about admitting defeat?
Julian Price
No I think you are the destructive one.
Jack Mitchell
lol, I love that you know that she can't know the specifics. Isn't that a little dishonest and unfair to her?
Matthew Lee
And your kind will go down in history as the trigger to the downfall of western society. I'd rather be remembered as one of the people who stood up for my values and beliefs, than one of the people who contributed to the degeneracy of society
Gabriel Morgan
Which ones?
Nathaniel Myers
So that's what it is. You're jealous because you think gays are treated special. Okay, you're special. You ARE unique and are probably a decent enough person. You deserve to be happy, just like everybody else.
Ryan Jackson
I don't think you even know what a clinical study is.
Samuel Wilson
You puritan cunts have been saying that since the dawn of western civilization and its only been getting stronger. Just fuck the fuck up and enjoy the ride.
Noah Foster
This.
Dylan Russell
Why are more advanced, more happy and healthier countries less homophobic then?
Christopher Nelson
Your values don't matter and your beliefs are gay.
William Anderson
She knows specifically where i stand on immigration, homosexuality, abortion, taxes, womens rights, etc. We just don't discuss it any further
Aiden Young
Oh man, you wait until he invokes the slippery slope argument, then you'll be sorry.
James Gutierrez
Your beliefs my beliefs are gay is gay
Gavin Edwards
I don't think homosexuals get special treatment. The opposite. But i agree with that
Josiah Butler
During a blind study: 27& of homosexuals reported that they are also sexually attracted to various species of animals.
Isaac Williams
That's actually not healthy.
Jose Clark
78% of all pedophiles are homosexual
Zachary Gutierrez
Does she know you like sucking dead fetal cells from your boyfriends cock and asshole?
Oliver Johnson
And straight men and women doesn't? Yeah right.
Ethan Campbell
It's perhaps the first time in human history we've been forced to accept mass delusion. It isn't about a slippery slope. The fact that it's already socially acceptable to be gay means it's too late.
Thomas Butler
100% of op's are get.
Aaron White
Yeah it ends up with nazis riding dinosaurs. You add three gays more per square yard and its the end of "Western civilization", Cristian values, family, whites, democracy, the bald eagle and saying merry Christmas.
Hunter Morales
I call cope out.
Nathan Miller
No because we are not fucking faggots
Anthony Rodriguez
Proof?
Cooper Gomez
Because 100% of gay relationships are 100% healthy and fully functioning. We're happy with the way things are. Just because you haven't had a single functioning relationship in your life doesn't give you the right to judge mine. Relationships sometimes rewuire compromise.
Charles Nelson
You people have said that about atheism, letting women vote, letting black people sit at the front of the bus. You've been wrong every. single. fucking. time.
Parker Barnes
>The fact that it's already socially acceptable to be gay means it's too late. Yes and deal with it. It's fine if you can't, we can respect that.
David Howard
Of course, that would make you gay. But even if you were fucking faggots, that would be okay.
Brayden Ward
Browse the internet more faggot.
Kevin Cruz
There's compromise and there's keeping your entire set of personal beliefs to yourself.
Ethan Harris
Is it just me or is this more about OP convincing himself he is not gay? Why else make a list of all the reasons not to be gay?
Connor Howard
>you people I'm ahteist, I'm for equal rights between men and women. Talk about prejudice, you faggots are worse than the KKK
Josiah Evans
>you faggots Talk about your prejudice
Isaiah Long
Wait, so prejudice is bad now? Then what the fuck was all that gays will destroy society claptrap ya disingenuous sack of shit.
Jordan Rogers
I dont keep my personal beliefs to myself, have you not read a single thing i've said? Are you illiterate as well as a faggot? She knows where I stand politically BECAUSE i'm open about it. We don't discuss politics further because we both know it; a) won't do us any good b) we agree with each other for the most part
Bentley Anderson
>Why else make a list of all the reasons not to be gay? Commitment to truth.
Levi Fisher
being gay isnt a choice, why would someone choose to be oppressed? they just have a crusty bit in their dna
Alexander Ortiz
Prejudice means assuming that everyone i group ''x'' is exactly the same way. I don't assume each faggot is exactly the same, i'm against the entire idea of gays.
Julian Evans
Yeah, faggot detected.
Noah Harris
So very old and white of you user, cute.
Adrian Mitchell
People choose to be ''oppressed'' because they want to be snowflakes and ''special''
Caleb Ward
Yeah no I'm not buying it.
Zachary Reed
Because its all just one thing huh?
Chase Garcia
So you choose to disregard something because it doesn't agree with your feelings. How very reasonable of you.
Jackson Martin
You are jusy as easily trigger cornflake.
Noah Cox
It is
Connor Brooks
At least i don't sexually identify as a mental illness for attention.
Elijah Wilson
Tell her you've been spending the last two hours bitching passionately about how much you hate faggots. If she hugs you and says she accepts then I will hand you one Yea Forums victory card.
Eli Reyes
No you post shit for attention and convince your self you are not a faggot.
Angel Roberts
Do you even believe he has a wife? Closet homo 100%
Oliver Martin
Kek
Nicholas Myers
Again, why should I do anything you ask me to? Why don't you tell you parents how you've been arguing for homosexuality on a image board, and ask them if they're proud of you?
Oliver Jenkins
I post shit and talk about shit i firmly believe to try to protect my ideology, instead of letting you shitlords walk all over our way of life.
Ethan Perry
My mother is literally a famous psychologist who does the same thing...
Ryder Ward
I have been trapped in the backrooms for 100 years, only a computer with windows 95 and only able to connect to Yea Forums. Thanks to your kek I can go back to reality. Thanks kind traveler
Landon Adams
>1. Being gay is a choice Nope >homosexual activities a dangerous and risky Wrong >2. marriage is a religious practice Nope. Also, implying all religions are anti-gay >3. There is no way to legitimately change your gender because your sex is determined by your chromosomes which cannot be altered in any way shape or form, therefore transgenderism is technically a mental illness because it is a scewed perception of what the reality is. Gender and sex are to different (although very similar things). That said, body dysmorphia is absolutely a mental illness. >4. 90% of individuals who take on risky botched surgeries to change their identity will not lead full healthy lives and are actually becoming a huge drain on resources that would be better put towards curing life threatening illnesses and diseases. While I agree people shouldn't take on risky surgeries unnecessarily, I don't see what that has to do with "draining resources" >5. Humans can only have two genders Agreed
I never said I was married, lol. >anyone who disagrees with me must be a closet homo By that logic, anyone who disagrees with me is mentally ill.
Isaac Reed
I will get your Healthcare tomorrow. No more insurance for you fatboy
Jace Howard
No not anyone just you. You are the gey.
Kevin Gray
So your famous whore mother of a psychologist allowed you to walk straight into mental illness and did nothing to stop it. Some mother you have user.
Carter Murphy
I live in Sweden, universal healthcare faggot. Ok
Elijah Hughes
Looks like mae whitman
Isaiah Kelly
I like how you defend more your Healthcare than the fact I called you fat.
Easton Cook
Why would i bother defending the claim that im fat? Because I should be offended by a baseless assumption from someone who's mentally ill? It's not like i'm going to try to prove myself to you. I'm a healthier person than you will ever be
Andrew Richardson
i.e. basement-dwelling fatass stuffed with hot pockets.
Bentley Scott
You're wrong but feel free to die mad.
Ethan Barnes
You're arguing with multiple people, I'm one of the straight ones. I'm just having fun piecing together what a miserable clown you are and figuring out how many months your sham of a relationship has left.
Ayden Robinson
Baseless like your whole argument?
Julian Allen
>everyone who disagrees with me is wrong people should be happy about agreeing with your propaganda?
Aiden Hall
>I'm one of the straight ones.
Like all the straightest of the straights has to say he is straight.
Ayden Rogers
My relationship is a shame because we're happy? Ok user. I'll go start a argument with my girlfriend over nothing for the sake of making our relationship better. Jesus, what does your dumb cunt of a mom teach you?
Thomas Evans
As opposed to "I'll say I hate homosexuals so much that nobody could possibly suspect I myself am gay!"
Landon Walker
Provide any evidence that my argument is baseless? Or as all fags, do you consider feelings fact?
Michael Moore
You're not happy. You cunts need to suppress your core beliefs just to function. You gotta be grade A mongoloid to not see the long term problems there.
Ayden Powell
>Whistle blow Mom insult is a 10 yard penalty.
Since you won't reply anymore Im going back to my furry chat. Had fun 4.5 stars.
Gavin Jackson
I feel you need some Yoga.
Matthew Sanchez
If you can provide something that isn't published by CNN, Buzzfeed, Ny times, etc. Give me serious medical or psychological studies backing your standpoint and i'll consider it
Jacob Scott
We don't though? I've been telling you this entire time but apparently you're too fucking dumb to read.
Samuel Morgan
Nice deflection.
Thomas Watson
No you won't. You mad eup your mind long ago and just are starting shit.
Jeremiah Ortiz
1. There is nothing unnatural about homosexuality. It exists in literally all sexually reproductive species. There is nothing inherently more dangerous about homosexuality, the only increased risk Congress from the tendency of increased promiscuity which should be educated against.
2. Marriage is a social and legal practise and religious people don't get to tell others what they can and cannot do. If so forms of partnership legally came under the same terminology there would be no issue here at all, because religion does not get a day in matters of law. Separation of church and state.
3. Sex and gender mean different things in modern usage. Trans people know they cannot ever change their biological sex. Gender expression and identity is not a binary like sex, third and further genders have existed for thousands of years.
4. You pulled that number entirely out of your ass, because there are no statistics that only count failed surgeries for reassignment. The vast majority of reassignment surgeries are paid for by charities or individuals, so it is not up to you where that money goes.
5. See point 3. Gender is not sex.
6. Just saying that the society rate being because of bullying is invalid does not make it so and your ass is not a valid source for numbers.
7. Source: ass
8. Opinion, should not be stated as if it were a fact. They could have been voted in based on policy or, much more likely, partisan tribalism.
9. You pulled literally every statistic here from your ass.
10. Kind of agree, or at the very least it definitely cannot be called straight, as straight sex must be between two people of opposite cisgendered sexes.
Lincoln Richardson
If you stretch enough you can do that too.
Robert Diaz
No you won't. You'll just say there was a conspiracy.
Landon Long
Then tell her exactly how you've been spending the last two hours and prove me wrong!
Brayden Baker
Hi I’m a faggot stay mad str8 bois
Zachary Thompson
Hi, thanks for writing logically for OP.
Michael Rogers
I've changed my mind before, but not once has your side of things provided real data to defend your beliefs. Just the other day I changed my mind on the wage gap issue. I try to be reasonable. Most, if not all of you are completely unreasonable and base all your arguments on feelings. The second someone disagrees with you, you try to attack them personally. ''you're fat'' ''you're a closet faggot'' ''your relationship must be broken'' ''you must be lonely'' Learn to fucking have a real discussion or i'll never be able to take you seriously.
Carter Richardson
That literally has nothing to do with my political views. dumbfuck
Parker Clark
>being gay is mental illness >being gay is a choice Lmao pick one
Ryder Jenkins
What? Rambling that gay people are mentally ill degenerates who will cause the downfall of society has nothing to do with that? I have a feeling that she doesn't know your Westboro baptist church levels of lunacy. And based and what you've been saying you clearly don't want her to know the extent, just the vague outline.
Alexander Lopez
It's a metal illness that drives you to the choice of being gay.
The same way a mental illness can drive you to the choice of suicide.
If mental illness drives someone to suicide it also wasn't a choice.
Nathan Ross
I get a little less sad when I realize that anyone who reads that is going to think you're as dumb as I do.
Camden Cox
As I said earlier in this thread, she knows exactly where I stand ideologically. I just don't see the point in telling her about one of the hundreds of discussions I have to please you? Fucking retard.
Comparing societal preservation with the Westboro baptist church. Nice argument.
Suicide is definitely a choice, holy shit lol. How is it not a choice? You make the decision to kill yourself.
Andrew Fisher
I get a little more sad when I realize that idiots like you can't see logic
Cooper Ward
>Comparing societal preservation with the Westboro baptist church. Same rabid determination to make up shit to support your hatred of an entire group of people, when there is nothing inherently wrong with their sexuality, only the culture surrounding it. Accept homosexuality in mainstream culture and focus instead on promiscuity, or keep barking up the wrong tree because you think they're icky, whatever floats your boat.
Christian Miller
Explain how your views on homosexuality differ to the WBCs.
And I am really not convinced she knows the extent. The fact you both know not to talk about it shows she's definitely in a position where your undiluted views you express here would be completely unacceptable to her.
David Hernandez
Mental illness makes the choice for you. You're not in the driver's seat.
Angel Smith
Well for starters, i'm not religious. Do I need to explain further? Just because an idea radically differs from yours doesn't give you the right to make baseless assumptions. My ideas are based on facts, statistics, research. You seem to think your personal feelings somehow matter.
Dylan Sullivan
In some cultures, it's considered rude and unwelcome to discuss politics openly.
Grayson Allen
>free will >muh brain's controlling meeeeeee
pick one
Justin Roberts
Mr. "there are imaginary studies out there that support me but they're buried by a left wing conspiracy of scientists!" suddenly cares about facts, statistics and research.
Great job.
Cooper White
No, I'm sorry but it doesn't. Mental illness is not some separate entity, it's part of you. I've been diagnosed bipolar for the better part of three years with several suicidal thoughts. Not once has that been something i've decided to do. It's 100% a choice.
Gavin Lewis
At dinner parties amongst family and friends. And I'd hardly call homophobia 'politics'.
Hunter Lee
I'm not going to go out of my way to find and post links to someone who's so clearly uninterested in looking at the facts. I'd implore you to do your own research but I know you wont.
Nathaniel Hall
So, a long term relationship doesn't fall under that category to you?
Jayden Rogers
Then just choose to not be bipolar idiot.
Josiah Fisher
Phobia implies a fear of homosexuals. I dont fear homosexuals, I fear what they're doing to our culture.
Mason Foster
>I CAN PROVE IT BUT I DON'T WANNA
Caleb Collins
>2. Marriage between two same sex partners is hypocritical because marriage is a religious practice, and there are no religions that have ever allowed marriage between two same gendered individuals in the entire history of mankind. you ever heard of ancient Greece fucktard?
I have. I've found the literally thousands of studies that crap on your world view. The only difference between you and me is that I didn't see the complete absence of studies confirming your dumb shit as proof that there must be a conspiracy to hide it.
Jordan Lopez
Jesus christ you're fucking dumb. Being bipolar isn't a choice, treating and medicating for it is. Killing yourself is also a choice. Being gay isn't a choice. Treating and medicating for it is. Actively choosing to remain a faggot is also a choice.
Julian Peterson
A long term relationship should be intimate enough that core issues like that don't cause friction and don't need to kept in the closet.
Austin Brooks
What's the point in going out of my way to find links for someone who's so clearly uninterested in an opinion that differs from there's? I swear, arguing with some of you is like trying to argue a devout catholic or muslim out of their faith. You can't and won't listen to reason.
Easton Wright
are you really some "diagnose" "bipolar" faggot? there was an old SNL sketch with bob newhart. he was a psychologist and people would come in and sit down and start whining about things that bother them and how they end up feeling. he would suddenly cut them off and yell "STOP IT!".
really. that's how it is. you have probably never thought about what things really mean to you, what the symbolism of the things you like or feel you are lacking really mean. i'm sure you're just a fucking immature bitch ass.
at 42, i've learned that there ARE some truly defective people. if you can string sentences together so properly, you are not "broken", you're just "troubled". what, did you have a nice childhood sexual relationship with a sibling and now feel endless loss and inadequacy in relationships? that's half of all females.
lol...
Christopher Martin
Where the fuck are you buying your straight guy pills?
John Ramirez
Please, PLEASE post them, i'll be glad to read them. I'm open to changing my mind if it isn't articles written by jew-journalists, but medical professionals.
Aiden Ward
and for the 68th time in this thread, we've talked about politics, we know where we both stand, and dont feel the need to bring it up anymore. What are you, a broken record? Trying to find fault in my life because you're scared of looking at your own?
Brandon Allen
Auschwitz
Michael Perry
Its because we've both had this stupid argument before. At best you're gonna find some gimp Ben Shapiro Prager U bullshit that's easily debunked, we're gonna throw some peer reviewed stuff at you and you're gonna bury yourself deeper in the 'all scientists are part of a left wing strategy to make me look bad narrative.'
Christopher Powell
but you haven't used reason, you've used angry condescension and haven't backed it up with any statistics. you sound pretty devout yourself m8
Leo Foster
She totes doesn't know the nitty gritty.
Dylan Hernandez
>42 >Yea Forums Yeah ok, your life must be perfect
Noah Phillips
I'd just love to be a fly on the wall the first time she sees your unfiltered view on homosexuality.
100% you've never spoken candidly the way you did in here. She doesn't know how you feel about the gays.
Caleb Reed
I've yet to see serious medical/ sociological studies to prove your point. The day I do I'll reconsider my position (really, I will)
She 100% does. I've demonstrated against the pride parade in stockholm and she was aware of it. She knows I'm interested in alt-right politics. I can continue defending my relationship but you faggots will keep saying ''well i dont believe you''
Owen Powell
Yeah who isn't surprised conservatives don't produce many professors.
Dominic Morgan
Holy shit you went out of your way to protest a pride parade! Do you often hear the words 'insufferable dickhole' mentioned in your vicinity?
Jonathan Hughes
Because you've been cagey enough with aspects that we can smell the bullshit.
Brody Foster
Because any professor who talks about conservatism gets attacked by the media and denounced. Just look at Jordan Peterson, and he's one of the few who managed to stay in the limelight
Hudson Adams
serious question, do you have any problem with gays who you wouldn't know are gay? like they wear normal clothes and have good jobs and stuff? seems like your problem's more with the wacko sensationalist fringes
Levi Rodriguez
Lol u mad?
Leo Howard
Yes. Liberal professors outnumber conservatives. Probably because going through higher education and meeting varied people is more likely to lead to less isolationist views because you get firsthand experience of other people of varied backgrounds not being shit and don't rely on others telling you 'group X is full of shit people'.
The article doesn't really prove anything.
Here's the things I want to see: >90% of individuals who take on risky botched surgeries to change their identity will not lead full healthy lives and are actually becoming a huge drain on resources that would be better put towards curing life threatening illnesses and diseases. Any basis for this nice round percentage. Any at all. My search has thus far failed to turn it up. >LGBTQ people have higher rates of suicide than Jews suffering in the holocaust, the argument that they are depressed because of bullying is invalid. Any source for this claim. Any at all. I've found no studies at all to this effect. >LGBTQ people have 60% higher rate of abusing hardcore drugs than the majority of the population. Any source for this, another nice, round figure. I've searched, can't find this number or a similar one. >More LGBTQ people are bullies as compared to being victims of bullying by up to 70%. And this one. Not found this figure nor any study or paper to this effect either.
I won't ask you to justify your opinions like >Most LGBTQ people in positions of power in the US Senate and Congress were only elected based on their victim status. Because obviously they are irrelevant and not demonstrable.
Luke Green
Honestly? I don't have a problem with gays who keep to themselves and don't try to push their agenda down our throats (no pun intended) The issue for me arises when young children in schools are told that they might be gay or trans. When we're forced to see intimate relationships between two men or women on TV and told to accept it as the natural order of things. Homosexuality isn't natural but if you want to keep that for yourself fine. I just dont need to see it and hear about it every single day.
Sebastian Butler
Top Kek
Liam Turner
He wasn't attacked for being conservative, he was attacked for attacking trans people. Its like celebrities, nothing wrong with being conservative, only when you use it as an excuse to be a dickhead to marginalized people. Notice how no one hates The Rock, Arnold or Kelsey Grammar? Its not conservatism that gets people upset, its being a piece of shit to others.
Nathan Robinson
>Ben Shapiro Prager U bullshit that's easily debunked Hmmmm...It's almost like they have something in common and use weak defense.
Ryan Nguyen
>The issue for me arises when young children in schools are told that they might be gay or trans. So being honest is wrong? We should just teach children that gayness doesn't exist? >When we're forced to see intimate relationships between two men or women on TV and told to accept it as the natural order of things. Again, just because it's not a relationship you'd want doesn't mean it should be hidden from view. That is an unhealthy thing to do. >Homosexuality isn't natural Demonstrably, hilariously false. Every sexually reproductive species in the world has members who engage in homosexuality. It is completely natural for stone members of a sexually reproductive species to be gay.
1.You do not know this. You are neither gay nor an expert.
2 Why do you care?
3 see above.
4 Again not an expert. Citation needed.
5 Hermaphrodites exist so you statement is untrue which seems to be the only thing you pst points have in common.
Adam Long
I'm not saying OP is right about all those numbers but in regard to the trans community, there are probably hundreds of articales all arriving at the same numbers (30-50%) attempt suicide.
Being honest and tolerant is one thing, confusing and brainwashing children is another. Do you think Christianity should be taught and enforced in schools?
Jayden Mitchell
that seems fair. i still believe homosexuality's a natural yet weird mutation, but on the same tier as ginger hair.
i don't like the trans kids thing, most kids are proven to grow out of it so it's creepy to force a permanent change on them when they're years off being able to consent to a tattoo.
i see the lgbtabc123 movement as sort of a backlash against the christians. here in the uk the government we locked up and chemically castrated gays up until very recently, even the ones who kept to themselves. we made alan turing kill himself. so it was always going to swing back hard the other way once we shed that bullshit
Colton Wright
What we're saying is those rates amongst outed trans folk probably have more to do with people like OP.
Colton Martin
Do you believe in God?
Wyatt Thomas
My magic space man says its okay.
John Long
If a student, on his/ her own volition comes to a teacher or peer and says that he/she feels attracted to the same sex, or feels he/she identifies as the opposite sex they should be met with understanding and guidance. Preferably towards counseling. It shouldn't be taught that we should disregard basic biology.
Drug abuse >drugabuse.gov/related-topics/substance-use-suds-in-lgbt-populations >39.1 percent versus 17.1 percent I'm not seeing a 60% higher rate anywhere. Nor any causation. Most likely the gays, who are obviously and openly hatred by plenty of people, use drugs for reasons relating to how they are treated.
Like I said, op pulled numbers right out of his ass.
>Do you think Christianity should be taught It should be included in religious education along with all other religions. >and enforced in schools? No and this should be illegal. The curriculum should include facts. Homosexuality existing and being a possibility is a fact. That Christians believe certain things is a fact. These things should be taught. Education should not include value judgements.
Samuel Miller
Wasn't he into that?
Adrian Price
Most everything is a sin. Bothering others about there sin while deluding yourself and thinking you don't sin? Is a sin.
So, let's disregard data when it suits the lgbt agenda, but not when it comes to religious teachings.
Ryan Ortiz
>confusing and brainwashing children is another >Do you think Christianity should be taught and enforced
you're not resisting brainwashing if you're just washing their brains with different soap
Jason Martinez
So in summary, creepy Swedish weirdo hates gays for no real reason. I guess that was fun.
Justin White
I dont agree with forcing religion on children either, lol.
Brandon Price
You can't say anything outside of retarded strawman arguments.
Logan Ross
>So in summary, I haven't read anything being discussed or presented in this thread, and will just disregard the opinion of someone who's presented a reasonable argument throughout this thread.
Typical leftist queer
Benjamin Russell
No data has been disregarded. Both Christianity and homosexuality are choices, not necessary, she should not be enforced in any way, but both should be informed about.
How is this a fucking controversial idea?
Jace Perez
You didn't present any arguements except made up numbers and the WILDLY incorrect 'it's not natural!'
Joshua Parker
>not getting upset that two people of the same gender have relationships will cause the downfall of civilization! >I'm reasonable!
Yeah, no. Even politics aside you come off as a really offputting creep.
Isaiah Lewis
In some cultures, yes. Welcome to Yea Forums. MAGA.
Daniel Robinson
No straw-man here. Sorry, that was my first comment to you.
-A fellow Christian who does not believe we Christians should say anything at all about homosexuality unless we have already addressed promiscuity and dishonesty.
so at some point, a completely straight guy receives some information from a shadowy hook-nosed figure and decides to start sucking dicks? have you heard of any actual examples of this?
Blake White
Your thinking is stuck in duality. Christ is past your left-right bullshit.
Oliver Myers
> Where the fuck are you buying your straight guy pills? It's part of the Lord's Prayer. Say it every morning. Say it every night. > And lead me not into temptation, but deliver me from evil. Yes, being gay is a choice. The temptation is to just do whatever you feel like and use all the excuses the left has provided to you in order to reject your own personal responsibility for being a moral and upright person instead of a faggot. Yes, putting that aside and being a good person instead can sometimes be hard for some people. Just don't stick your dick in a dude, though. You manage not to stick your dick in a ant hill. You could. You could decide to walk outside, find an ant hill, and just jam your cock straight down into it. You choose not to. Now do the same thing, but about sticking it in a dude. Say the prayer an extra time if you need help. Or think about the ant hill. It's better for you to stick your dick in the ant hill than become a faggot.
Brandon Cook
Mr. feed the poor, heal the sick, rich people are evil? I think he might fall somewhere specific on the political spectrum...
Owen Nguyen
What exactly are you saying? Because it doesn't feel like you're replying to my post but are instead diving in a strange, Jew-related direction.
Education should inform, not prescribe.
Wyatt Rivera
I study the law. I struggle to follow the law. I do not enforce the law.
I am not left or right.
I view mankind as my brothers and sisters. I do not strive to close the gates that Christ threw open. It is not my place to hate those who love or show mercy. Only to rebuke hypocrites.
>moral and upright person Something you fail at because you didn't listen to your God.
Judge not
Lucas Sullivan
it feels like i'm doing both, your post says homosexuality is a choice and that view is shared by many people who hate jews for some reason.
so i'm asking, in what scenario does a straight person decide to become gay? it's a apprently a vitally important epidemic, so i'm sure there are lots of examples
Isaiah Cook
I am saddened by your inability to read what Christ taught instead of what Levi Paul or James did.
Deciding not to be a faggot cured them. But if you need help from the ant hill, you could try it.
Nathaniel Taylor
He's arguing you're supposed to supress it and put it in the closet. Which is what causes high suicide rates, which is also proof its bad. Because he's dumb.
Cooper Johnson
All you have achieved is making internet strangers think you're a closet homo. Congratulations. You are such a competent and impressive person.
Michael Wilson
apparently so. maybe if you believe hard enough that something's a choice and in your control, it becomes true. good luck op!
Hunter Rogers
You seem to think I've suddenly joined the anti-gay side. I have not. Christianity is a choice in the same way. A combination of your nature and nurture predispose you toward certain choices and you could, theoretically, rail against that predisposition and choose not to believe, or choose not to fuck other men. But most people do not, now that homosexuality is not illegal. The number of gays hasn't increased, they just came out of the woodwork.
And since both are possible routes you could take as an adult (becoming a Christian, becoming a homosexual) both should be included in your education. Neither should be enforced.
Ayden Thomas
Top kek
Cameron Myers
Christ came to destroy the law of this world. You slander me as a hypocrite? Fuck yeah I am. I'm a human sinner who rejects sin. Now look at yourself.
Alexander Morris
I was not arguing either of those things you illiterate fuckwits. I was addressing the retard Etc Who seemed to think teaching kids that homosexuality exists and what it entails is somehow like teaching kids to be Christian.
Jonathan Phillips
I am both Gay (Celibate) and Christian. I do not deny my homosexuality (attractions) I resist them amd do not teach others that they are "bad" you see what you teach leads to death and hell.
Death for those you teach with deception and hell for you.
Easton Campbell
>everyone who doesn't agree with me is a closeted, fat, kike hating retard
That's not an argument user, just you projecting your insecurities and generally being beta
Nathan Cox
While you were jabbering about dudes fucking and thinking about other dudes sticking their dicks in ant hills I was jerking off to the Hill twins. U gay.
Jaxson Cooper
so you think you could do an experiment with two clones where one's given pro-gay propaganda and one anti-gay proaganda, and you're saying you're probably coming out with one gay kid and one straight kid? is that the logic?
Blake Ross
Christ did not come to destroy the law he said it was still in force every tittle and jot..
The problem is that you do not know the law. There are ten of them. Nothing offered by Noah Levi James or Paul is the LAW.
